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Um... Did anyone catch Fox Sports?/Kyle Shanahan

Bush said:
I thought it would be posted here already, Mark Berman just announced the hiring of like 6 coaches for us. I forgot the names.
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FSN was cut off on my satelite because I was watching the ROX on an alternate and Hockey was on FSN SW. They said they had Gary Kubiak.
 
No fools, they named a bunch of coaches...

1 was someone from the Oilers

i remember 2 now, Sherman and Shanahan i think

there was more.
 
For now, I'm thinking it's good. He seems to be getting guys that are on the same page with him. I trust him not to bring in a bunch of hacks.
 
coreyvice said:
It seems like Jim Bates is our last hope. I think I heard we talked to him Friday.
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DOn't expcet Bates to get teh DC job. He wants complete control over the D coaching staff and Kubes said he sin't going to do that. Sorry.
 
coreyvice said:
It seems like Jim Bates is our last hope. I think I heard we talked to him Friday.
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According to Berman, the Texans are close to hiring Richard Smith (co-dc in miami now) to coach LB and maybe Co-DC. As far as Bates, the Texans will not be hiring him because he wants total control of the defensive side of the ball and also wants to hire his own defensive people. That would mean that Hoke would get fired.
 
Maybe there is a personality conflict between McNair/Kubiak and Bates.. and that is the real reason why he isnt getting the job.. but.. does anyone else find it odd that we would choose to keep a DB coach over hiring a DC that has had top ten defenses for every year that he DCed a team?

There has to be a LOT more to the story than "he wont keep hoke"
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2312895

Kyle Shanahan hired to coach Texans receivers

HOUSTON -- Two coaches with ties to Broncos coach Mike Shanahan were hired by the Houston Texans on Monday, including Shanahan's son.

Kyle Shanahan, 24, will coach Houston's receivers under new Texans coach Gary Kubiak, who was Mike Shanahan's offensive coordinator in Denver for 11 seasons.

The Texans also hired Troy Calhoun as their new offensive coordinator. Calhoun served as the assistant to the head coach in Denver last season.

Kyle Shanahan has worked the past two seasons as the offensive quality control coach in Tampa Bay. He graduated in 2003 from the University of Texas after playing wide receiver for the Longhorns' football team. He worked one season as a graduate assistant at UCLA and joined the Buccaneers' staff before the 2004 season.

Before moving to Denver, Calhoun, 39, was the offensive coordinator at Wake Forest from 2001-02. The Demon Deacons led the Atlantic Coast Conference in total offense in 2002 with 408.1 yards per game.

Calhoun became a defensive assistant in Denver in 2003 and was an offensive assistant and coached the Broncos' special teams in 2004.

The Texans also announced Monday they have retained special teams coach Joe Marciano, defensive backs coach Jon Hoke and running backs coach Chick Harris.

Nothing on Sherman.
 
As for DC, could they be possibly waiting for someone from the Seahawks or Steelers?
Would it have been possible to be talking to someone in either organization while they've been preparing for the Super Bowl?
:hmmm:
 
Grid said:
Maybe there is a personality conflict between McNair/Kubiak and Bates.. and that is the real reason why he isnt getting the job.. but.. does anyone else find it odd that we would choose to keep a DB coach over hiring a DC that has had top ten defenses for every year that he DCed a team?

There has to be a LOT more to the story than "he wont keep hoke"
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I think it is more about who has control of the defense than about Hoke. Kubiak doesn't want an black box defense that he has little say over. That appears to be the issue.
 
Per Mr McClain ion teh Chorn's website
Kubiak is waiting to hear if former Green Bay coach Mike Sherman will accept his offer to become assistant head coach and offensive line coach. Sherman is expected to decide within the next couple of days.

Kubiak is closer to working out a deal to hire Richard Smith as linebackers coach and possibly defensive coordinator. Smith was Miami's co-defensive coordinator last season.
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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/fb/texansfront/3624159.html

Can't say I'm surprised about Smith just becoming a solo DC, ans I still hope Sherman joins the staff.

And another team says no to Bates, per www.kffl.com

Bills | Team reaches an agreement with Fewell
Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:02:47 -0800

Mark Gaughan, of the Buffalo News, reports Perry Fewell, defensive backs coach for the Chicago Bears, reached an agreement in principle to become the new defensive coordinator for Buffalo Bills head coach Dick Jauron, according to NFL and Chicago sources. It's probable that Fewell would adopt a defensive style similar to the one used by head coach Lovie Smith in Chicago, which is similar to the zone-coverage system employed by Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy.

I'm begining to think that either Bates is being an *** in his interviews or that he might be a tad overrated.
 
I dont think Bates is overrated, but it is no secret that he wants full control of the D. His demands for a D. Coordinator are a little much by some standards. He is also a little bitter as far as not getting a coaching job.
 
from kffl.com

Texans | Harris retained as assistant coach
Tue, 31 Jan 2006 06:14:53 -0800

John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans have retained running backs coach Chick Harris.
 
I think our DC is coming out of Seattle, that is why we haven't heard. They have two good candidates, the LB coach and the D-Line coach.
 
Well, can Chuck Harris really be all that bad? I mean, DD had close to having 3 1,000 yard seasons, usually productive. Where DD didn't perform so well in blocking, he more than made up for it in the rest of his game. I don't see this as a bad thing, or necessarily a good thing.
 
Keep in mind that Kubes has learned from Shanahan for the last 10 years or so and Shanahan does NOT give up controll over anything. He is very involved in everything. Not running it, but has final controll. Kubes set up the game plan/scheme and called the plays, but Shanahan had the final say. I would expect Kubes to operate exactly like that and that is most likely what Bates doesn't want so they have a difference of opinion on how they would operate and and if Bates isn't willing to accept that sort of operating enviroment, then Kubes is spot on in not bringing him in.
 
Porky said:
Does anyone else find it strange that we are going to have a 24 yr old WR coach?
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I am struggling to date with the staff, but want to wait till I see it as a whole before I comment.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
I am struggling to date with the staff, but want to wait till I see it as a whole before I comment.
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The Patriots are going with a 28 year old offensive coordinator. As long as they can get the job done, I really don't care about the age.
 
Porky said:
Does anyone else find it strange that we are going to have a 24 yr old WR coach?
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Bosotn hired a 29 yr old GM, easily a position with more power and responsibilty then a WR coach, espically a WR coach under Kubiak. If Chucky felt confident enough to hire him before Kubes did, I'm ok with it.
 
Grid said:
Richard Smith does nothing for me. He screams "5th choice".
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I gotta disagree with you there, Smith (and Bush) was likely the first choice. The more the hiring processplays out the more im certain that Kubiak is going to have a hand in everything, not just the offense. And I think somebody he knows for the D, somebody that he cansult with and maybe pick a few things up from; not somebody who is going to run teh D independant of the rest of the team which means no Bates, no Gray and porbally no big name D coach.

I just wish Singaltary would atleast get an interview, hearing him miked up at the Senior Bowl really erased some of teh misgivings I had about his coaching ability.
 
TEXANS84 said:
The Patriots are going with a 28 year old offensive coordinator. As long as they can get the job done, I really don't care about the age.
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Belichek and Brady vs Kubiak and Carr. I do care about age depending on the other parts. With Kubiak and Carr we have a first time HC and a QB that has not met expectations.

Once again I want to see what the other parts look like. If Sherman comes aboard I have no problem.
 
Grid said:
Richard Smith does nothing for me. He screams "5th choice".
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When Richard Smith was DC at Miami, Miami's defense was ranked 18th in the NFL last season in yards allowed per game per ours being ranked 31st in the NFL, and Miami's defense was ranked 17th against the run compared to our defense ranked at 32nd against the run. They were also ranked 14th in the NFL in points allowed per game compared to ours ranked at 32nd. I guess what I am trying to say is that honestly our defense cannot get any worse lol.
 
texan279 said:
When Richard Smith was DC at Miami, Miami's defense was ranked 18th in the NFL last season in yards allowed per game per ours being ranked 31st in the NFL, and Miami's defense was ranked 17th against the run compared to our defense ranked at 32nd against the run. They were also ranked 14th in the NFL in points allowed per game compared to ours ranked at 32nd. I guess what I am trying to say is that honestly our defense cannot get any worse lol.
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Agree with your objective look. However, was it Smith, Saban, talent, schedule, etc. Our defense is bad all around and I am not sure how much we will improve just off new coaching and system.
 
nah, i bet were waiting for lebeau....yeah right.

well its pretty simple of who we want (kubiak needs to trust him, WANTS to be part of texans, play with players strengths - which means 34), but the hard part is finding him. and its not like we can get worse than last season - we could barely get pressure on the qb and tacklnig was horrible. if smith meets that then i wouldnt mind seeing him on the sidelines
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Agree with your objective look. However, was it Smith, Saban, talent, schedule, etc. Our defense is bad all around and I am not sure how much we will improve just off new coaching and system.
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According to a site I checked, Miami had the toughest schedule in the NFL in 2005, their opponents winning percentage for 2005 was .547, highest in the NFL. They also beat Denver, Carolina, San Diego, and New England this past season. As far as talent goes, they have some solid talent in the front 7 and a superstar in Zach Thomas at the MLB spot, but they also had a rookie starting at LOLB and had some injury problems as a whole this past season.
 
texan279 said:
According to a site I checked, Miami had the toughest schedule in the NFL in 2005, their opponents winning percentage for 2005 was .547, highest in the NFL. They also beat Denver, Carolina, San Diego, and New England this past season. As far as talent goes, they have some solid talent in the front 7 and a superstar in Zach Thomas at the MLB spot, but they also had a rookie starting at LOLB and had some injury problems as a whole this past season.
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Good stuff. Upon a further look just from a statistical view the Dolphins regressed last year from 2004. Granted many changes took place. However, when you drill down by category our defense and Miami's were not that far apart.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?sort_col_1=4&_1:col_1=4&_1:col_2=15

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2004/regular?sort_col_1=4
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Good stuff. Upon a further look just from a statistical view the Dolphins regressed last year from 2004. Granted many changes took place. However, when you drill down by category our defense and Miami's were not that far apart.

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2005/regular?sort_col_1=4&_1:col_1=4&_1:col_2=15

http://www.nfl.com/stats/teamsort/NFL/DEF-TOTAL/2004/regular?sort_col_1=4
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In 04 Miami allowed 306 yards per game compared to 317 yards per game in 05. In 04 Miami allowed 22.1 points a game, in 05 they allowed 19.8 points per game, 15th in the NFL, so they actually improved there from 04 to 05. And by the way, we allowed 26.9 points a game in 05, last in the NFL.
 
Kaiser Toro said:
Granted many changes took place.
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Lots of changes. 3 of 4 DLmen changed. 2 of 3 LB's changed. 3 of 4 DB's changed--by the way, one was another Texans reject, Travares Tillman who we let go to get McCree. Frankly, with 8 of 11 guys being new and doing as well as they did it is pretty impressive.
 
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