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Tonight's Russell Athletic Bowl - Bridgewater's last game?

bOODRO87 said:
Wow, people like this do exist. Someone should make a documentary out of you.

"The man who never saw good"
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I see good. The kid is a good college player, but that doesn't mean he will be worth the #1 pick or be a good NFL player. Do we forget what Case did in college? What Carr did in college? Young? Russell? Etc, etc. I am just giving him the eye test again and drawing a few comparisons.

Heck the kid is barely projected in the top 10, I think Kiper has him the 9th best player in the draft, although he is projected as the best QB. You only get the #1 pick overall a very few times. Hopefully we will NEVER get it again. I want the Texans to be absolutely sure whoever they pick at #1 is the right choice and not reach because of need.

IMHO, this kid aint it ...
 
We have no room for facts! Case is Jesus in Cleats. Clowney is a clown. RT is our #1 need. Bridgewater looks like he needs a burger.
 
We are not taking a damn RT #1 overall, people just need to get that out of their heads right now. There's also no prospect this draft that's really worth it, so the trade down scenario is probably not in play either....so in all liklihood, we'll be using that pick.

So its TB or Clowney...these are our only options....period.
 
In 48 hours I hope we know that Bridgewater is turning pro & Bill O'Brian will be new head coach of our Houston Texans!
 
Mr teX said:
We are not taking a damn RT #1 overall, people just need to get that out of their heads right now. There's also no prospect this draft that's really worth it, so the trade down scenario is probably not in play either....so in all liklihood, we'll be using that pick.

So its TB or Clowney...these are our only options....period.
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We will see, but all the talking heads seem to have Matthews and Clowney as 1 and 2 best prospects.

Bridgewater is just the best QB.
 
kingtexan said:
We will see, but all the talking heads seem to have Matthews and Clowney as 1 and 2 best prospects.



Bridgewater is just the best QB.
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Best qb always trumps best position player when qb is your biggest need. I personally think Bridgewater is the best player in the draft not just best qb.


Sent from the future...
 
BigBull said:
Best qb always trumps best position player when qb is your biggest need. I personally think Bridgewater is the best player in the draft not just best qb.


Sent from the future...
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I'm taking a wild guess that his, Teddy, draft stock is rising.
 
Bootleg keeper for the nail in the coffin (if it wasn't in already). Pretty dominating performance by Bridgewater and by Louisville's defense tonight.
 
TexansFTW said:
Well this thread has gone to trash as usual w/ most stuff on this board.

Outright hate and disdain because some want these "trenches" built up so we can draft a "better" QB AKA Pipe Dream at #14 overall next year.

Just going back and forth now...

"What a great safety look off and TD strike"

"Nothing Case Keenum couldn't do"

With that I'm done. I would hate to see this thread erupt when he does make a mistake as he likely will because he isn't a God.

TB #1 overall to your... Houston Texans!
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Alright first off, just because I don't like TB at the #1 spot does not mean i have "outright disdain or hate" for the guy as you seem to think. IF we somehow traded back to the 3-5 spot then i would happily take him.

Anyone with any sort of football IQ knows football is won and lost in the trenches. We're 28th in the league in getting sacks on defense and we might as well not have a right tackle on the field because Newton doesn't do much when he's playing. Look what happened last time we drafted a QB from a small school before we built up the trenches. He sucked. Part of this could be on him but most of the blame lies on the O-line who never gave him time. The crappy O-line completely destroyed his development and confidence. Look at most of the top tier teams in the NFL and you'll see that most of them of top tier O or D lines. Then look at the bears, who arguably have the best Offensive skill positions yet a below average O and D line and you see why they have yet to clinch a playoff birth.
 
texanchris said:
Alright first off, just because I don't like TB at the #1 spot does not mean i have "outright disdain or hate" for the guy as you seem to think. IF we somehow traded back to the 3-5 spot then i would happily take him.

Anyone with any sort of football IQ knows football is won and lost in the trenches. We're 28th in the league in getting sacks on defense and we might as well not have a right tackle on the field because Newton doesn't do much when he's playing. Look what happened last time we drafted a QB from a small school before we built up the trenches. He sucked. Part of this could be on him but most of the blame lies on the O-line who never gave him time. The crappy O-line completely destroyed his development and confidence. Look at most of the top tier teams in the NFL and you'll see that most of them of top tier O or D lines. Then look at the bears, who arguably have the best Offensive skill positions yet a below average O and D line and you see why they have yet to clinch a playoff birth.
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You do not have to draft in the first round for a good OL. If the Texans think QB is a high priority, you can kiss your 1st pick OL dream goodbye. There will be a significant decrease in QB talent if the Texans were to wait at the 33rd pick. Not so much in the trenches.
 
stingray said:
Keep on trolling troll.
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bOODRO87 said:
You do not have to draft in the first round for a good OL. If the Texans think QB is a high priority, you can kiss your 1st pick OL dream goodbye. There will be a significant decrease in QB talent if the Texans were to wait at the 33rd pick. Not so much in the trenches.
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Not only that, there's sure to be a great RT prospect for us to nab at the top of the 2nd round....maybe even that other aggie tackle....
 
bOODRO87 said:
There will be a significant decrease in QB talent if the Texans were to wait at the 33rd pick.
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Panic making the pick?

"Oh my God if we wait there wont be a good QB left"

History has not shown that to be true, and the Texans picking based on needing a QB is the absolute worst thing they could do at #1. You only get the #1 pick once in a lifetime hopefully. Use it wisely and take the absolute cant miss prospect, at whatever position.
 
kingtexan said:
Panic making the pick?

"Oh my God if we wait there wont be a good QB left"

History has not shown that to be true, and the Texans picking based on needing a QB is the absolute worst thing they could do at #1. You only get the #1 pick once in a lifetime hopefully. Use it wisely and take the absolute cant miss prospect, at whatever position.
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I must've died 3x already.
 
It always amazes me these so called trench guys. Baltimore won lst year because flacco played great,not because the o-line was dominant or d-line was dominant. The giants and packers won with run games in the late 20s and suspect pass pro. The colts won the division with shoddy o-line(can't run) and middle of pack d-line. The common denominator is theguy you can't hide,the qb.
 
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kingtexan said:
Panic making the pick?

"Oh my God if we wait there wont be a good QB left"

History has not shown that to be true, and the Texans picking based on needing a QB is the absolute worst thing they could do at #1. You only get the #1 pick once in a lifetime hopefully. Use it wisely and take the absolute cant miss prospect, at whatever position.
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What if Matthews benches 225 20 times and measures in at 6'4 ?
 
PapaL said:
It's funny how taking a QB #1 would be a panic pick but taking a RT #1 isn't.
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i just wanna know where were all these guys that want a RT@#1 now back in 2006? there was only a handful of us here, including myself, that wanted ferguson @ #1 and he was a LT. no one was crying for o-line then, and that was coming off of a victor riley season at LT in 05.
 
kingtexan said:
Panic making the pick?

"Oh my God if we wait there wont be a good QB left"

History has not shown that to be true, and the Texans picking based on needing a QB is the absolute worst thing they could do at #1. You only get the #1 pick once in a lifetime hopefully. Use it wisely and take the absolute cant miss prospect, at whatever position.
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That's just it, there is no cant miss prospect....certainly not in this draft. aaron curry was supposedly a "can't miss" a few years back. dude aint even in the league anymore....2006, it was reggie bush...he's panned ok, but it took him years to get to the point he's at now.
 
Happy! Happy! Happy! Creating a traders market. OK who will give me 3 first for Teddy? Do I hear 3 first for Jadevon? Get our bids in by 5:00PM. Best BID that includes 3 firsts, the equivalent of or better WINS.
 
Texian said:
Happy! Happy! Happy! Creating a traders market. OK who will give me 3 first for Teddy? Do I hear 3 first for Jadevon? Get our bids in by 5:00PM. Best BID that includes 3 firsts, the equivalent of or better WINS.
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Rep for you. 7 pages and 136 posts in this thread so far, and you haven't mentioned Bortles once.
 
michaelm said:
Rep for you. 7 pages and 136 posts in this thread so far, and you haven't mentioned Bortles once.
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Honoring Earl 34 said:
Praise be he didn't , he didn't .


Ps ... anyone know him ? I hope he's ok and not in any trouble where he couldn't mention Bortles .
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I am honored that you follow me so closely. How many pages and post for you since you were last a snarky a-hole?

Hey HE you know I love me some .......?????
 
Mr teX said:
That's just it, there is no cant miss prospect....certainly not in this draft. aaron curry was supposedly a "can't miss" a few years back. dude aint even in the league anymore....2006, it was reggie bush...he's panned ok, but it took him years to get to the point he's at now.
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This can't be said loud enough. No such thing as can't miss. Aaron curry,robert gallery to name a few. Peyton was a top rated prospect,but people felt leaf had more upside. As much as I like luck,again, rg3 had more upside cause of his legs and arm talent. Luck has been up and down with a avg qb rating,but he's good enough to help his team win double digits again. I'm not comparing bridgewater to luck,wilson,or rg3 because its not like we can trade for those guys. What's here and now is the fact bridgewater is a top 5 talent who also plays qb. He has everything upstairs you want in a qb, can make all the throws,and is very grounded. He's also a gym rat and is mature beyond his years.
 
Well OK, tonight is the only game I got to see him play. I guess I won't be too upset if they take him with the top pick, but I really don't know if the Texans think he's the top of their board.

Reading the body language on the sidelines at the end of the game, I'm pretty sure he's coming out.

I'm a trench guy, so it is was it is.

Let the debate begin. :lol:
 
Marcus said:
Well OK, tonight is the only game I got to see him play. I guess I won't be too upset if they take him with the top pick, but I really don't know if the Texans think he's the top of their board.

Reading the body language on the sidelines at the end of the game, I'm pretty sure he's coming out.

I'm a trench guy, so it is was it is.

Let the debate begin. :lol:
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It doesn't have to be one or the other. Who are your top 5 trench teams in the nfl?
 
leebigeztx said:
This can't be said loud enough. No such thing as can't miss. Aaron curry,robert gallery to name a few. Peyton was a top rated prospect,but people felt leaf had more upside. As much as I like luck,again, rg3 had more upside cause of his legs and arm talent. Luck has been up and down with a avg qb rating,but he's good enough to help his team win double digits again. I'm not comparing bridgewater to luck,wilson,or rg3 because its not like we can trade for those guys. What's here and now is the fact bridgewater is a top 5 talent who also plays qb. He has everything upstairs you want in a qb, can make all the throws,and is very grounded. He's also a gym rat and is mature beyond his years.
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Echo that, teammates seem gravitated towards him, he lays the ball out there where they can run after the catch & do a little creating of their own. Players like that, they have confidence in him & he delivers. Notice he seems a little shy, doesn't draw attention to himself, keeps focused on game plan with coaches & hence coaches up his fellow mates. Really good stuff! A treat, too good to be true, something will happen, lol.
 
kingtexan said:
We will see, but all the talking heads seem to have Matthews and Clowney as 1 and 2 best prospects.

Bridgewater is just the best QB.
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It is also still December. In December 2010 all the experts were convinced that either Auburn DT Nick Fairley or Auburn DE Marcel Darius were the #1 and #2 best prospects in the 2011 draft. They wrote glowing reports on these two players and projected disgust at any other prospect even being considered in that grouping. Come Draft day, Darus went #3 overall and Fairley went #13. These so called experts heaped piles upon piles of praise on Buffalo and Detroit and chastised those teams who chose to pass on their so called " #1 and #2 prospects.

In case you are wondering, here is a list of the top 13 players who were taken in the 2011 NFL draft.

1. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Von Miller, DE Texas A&M
3. Marcel Darius, DE Alabama
4. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
5. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
6. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. Aldon Smith, LB, Missouri
8. Jake Locker, QB, Washington
9. Tyron Smith, OT USC
10. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
11. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
12. Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
13. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

The players in bold are ones who have already made it to the Pro Bowl. Notice which names are not in bold: Marcel Darius and Nick Fairley...the two guys those same experts said should have been taken before 8 probowl players.

The experts are not 100% correct and should be taken with a grain of salt. Player development is not just about getting the right guy, but also the right coaching, and hopefully no serious injuries.
 
Doppelganger said:
It is also still December. In December 2010 all the experts were convinced that either Auburn DT Nick Fairley or Auburn DE Marcel Darius were the #1 and #2 best prospects in the 2011 draft. They wrote glowing reports on these two players and projected disgust at any other prospect even being considered in that grouping. Come Draft day, Darus went #3 overall and Fairley went #13. These so called experts heaped piles upon piles of praise on Buffalo and Detroit and chastised those teams who chose to pass on their so called " #1 and #2 prospects.

In case you are wondering, here is a list of the top 13 players who were taken in the 2011 NFL draft.

1. Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
2. Von Miller, DE Texas A&M
3. Marcel Darius, DE Alabama
4. A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
5. Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
6. Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
7. Aldon Smith, LB, Missouri
8. Jake Locker, QB, Washington
9. Tyron Smith, OT USC
10. Blaine Gabbert, QB, Missouri
11. J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
12. Christian Ponder, QB, Florida State
13. Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn

The players in bold are ones who have already made it to the Pro Bowl. Notice which names are not in bold: Marcel Darius and Nick Fairley...the two guys those same experts said should have been taken before 8 probowl players.

The experts are not 100% correct and should be taken with a grain of salt. Player development is not just about getting the right guy, but also the right coaching, and hopefully no serious injuries.
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Man oh man, that was a loaded and I mean loaded draft. i know its early but there could be 4-5 future HOFers in the first 11 picks.
 
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