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To everyone getting upset by the "fire so and so" threads

I can only tell you this, I have met Pete (aka. thegr8fan) and he is dead on with seemingly every interpretation I have asked him about. He is just that a GREAT fan, and I for one respect what his opinions are and try to ask him questions when we watch the games here in Austin at the Saxon Pub. By him taking the stand he has within this thread, it merely shows me how much it pains him to see the results on the field. I for one agree, leave staus quo as is now.

The season is merely a quarter down and there may be some light at the end of the tunnel and I will maintain faith that things will turn around eventually. We will not see a 2, 5, or even 10 year period of losing like this such as other organizations have experienced and that is enough for me.

If the season maintains along this path, then I certainly don't want Capers fired until after the season. If for no other reason that I am at every game and want to watch him squirm and be held accountable for the whole train wreck we are witnessing now.

And it at least allows me to ride his weak coaching skills and let him hear me, and believe me, from where I sit he does. Nothing better than preaching the truth about his lack of emotion, fire, and motivational tactics and having players like Orr and Peek turn around and grin. It will end soon if not eventually.

And Pete is merely trying to enlighten some of you of the same.
 
thegr8fan said:
DB I sent you a PM on this.

Thanks, man. Much appreciated. 'nuff said! :ok:

thegr8fan said:
I am not going to toss the rest of this season into the trash can and call it finished. That is a quitter mentality and will do absolutely nothing good for anyone, fans, players, coach's, no one, IMHO.

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I am just as frustrated and ticked off as the board is. But I am NOT, not now, nor EVER going to demand that some action be taken that I KNOW is going to mean we just QUIT on the season. We do what Carr does when he gets sacked. We pick our heads up, dust off our hinney, and get back into the huddle, and call the next play. We do NOT take ourselves out of the game and go sit on a bench on the sidelines. We do NOT quit. Not now, not ever.

Most of the board members were thinking in the offseason of an 8-8 record. a .500 record. We can still get there. I am not sure how, but it is achievable. Fire Capers or Casserly and we all realize it is NOT only not achievable, but almost impossible to do so.

I agree about firing the HC mid-season. It is unproductive, unprofessional, and to be honest, is too similar to something Bud Adams does throughout the history of the Oilers. Better to distance ourselves from that kind of attitude, unless we want our team infected with it.

And yeah, firing our HC right now does mean we've quit just four games into a season. Anything is possible four games into it, we just have to balance it with what is probable.

ps. Come January 2006, though, and the gloves are off. Depending on the next 12 games, I think it is in our right as fanatics to desire change in leadership if this season should tank.

Marcus said:
The coaches and the staff have failed by building a team of no talent hacks, not by the failure to inspire talented players.

There is a very important difference between the two. If you think it's a failure to inspire talent, then you are deluded into thinking about the quick fix. Just fire everybody, and instantly the problem is solved. That's the copout route. But if you accept the fact that it's a team of no talent hacks, then you accept the fact that it will be years before we have a decent team.

The "fire and desire" thing is so overrated.

You want to know where I'm coming from? The fact that this team, under Coach Capers, played inspired ball the first three seasons. We beat teams that were much, much better than us, and I think it is because they were inspired to do so and believed in the system.

We weren't better than the Carolina Panthers in 2003. They were a SuperBowl caliber team. We took the NFL Champions that same year to OT! Not because we had better talent, but because of fire.

I certainly understand why you feel the desire to fire everyone now is a copout (and again, I want to wait and see what happens, then make decisions like that in the off-season).

But we'll have to respectfully agree to disagree, because I think this team does have talent. They're just not playing on the same page right now, which, IMO, is a product of failed coaching.

I do appreciate the informative opinions from you dudes, though, because it educates and strengthens my own positions. It's all good. :thumbup
 
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