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Tim Cheatwood

If Cheatwood pans out here, that makes him a very late bloomer in the NFL as he was born in Aug., '77 which means he turns 28 before this years regular season opener. Maybe sets the record for an NFL rookie age wise ?
 
If he's that passionate and an energy driven player, let's hope he works out and is the spark the Texans need. While you are talking about him on the line, as his play in the CFL went, he was also TE at Ohio State. Might be where the Texans are looking to put him to use.
 
This is another in a long line of OLB candidates ala Babin, Peek, Anderson, Raheem Orr, etc. that will come through here. Some will make it - some won't. They are going to continue to bring guys like this in until they find one or two who can make an impact like a Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, Ricky Jackson, Pat Swilling, or Lamar Lathon.

I can't help but think of Jimmy Chitwood when I see the name.
 
Wong is solid but nothing more than that. I hope Peek replaces him next season.
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Wong had 71 total tackles, 4th most by a Texan this season, 5.5 sacks, most by any Texan this season, and 3 INT's, 3rd most by a Texan this season. Also, Wong is scheduled to make like between 4 and 6 million in '05 if I remember corectly, that is a lot of money to pay someone to warm the bench.
 
its also a lot of money to pay someone if ya dont need them.

Peek didnt start so you cant say if he would have been better or worse.. but he sure seemed to wreak havoc when he was in.

Maybe its time for Wong to go? i like the guy but if he isnt our best ROLB.. and he wont play ILB.. and he is making between 4-6 mil.. hey.. you gotta do what you gotta do.
 
I am not saying who would have done beter or worse, I am just saying Wong had a good season. And if we cut him or trade him, won't we still be responsible for at least part of his remaining contract?
 
yah we would be.. i dunno how much though.. a.j. could probably tell us but I dont wanna bother him with it :). he is busy trying to dig up all the info on our current cap situation.
 
Wong is entering the final year of his contract as is Sharper. Wong's cap number is around $4.5 million and he would be a million dollar hit (or 500k depending on when you cut him) if he was cut. But my guess is that he won't be cut. The question with Wong is whether they extend him like they did Coleman or let him go FA after this season. I know the coaches like Kailee because he's smart and versatile. My guess is that they work out some kind of three year deal. He'll be 29 in May.
 
rittenhouserobz said:
Maybe we are going to run a 2-5 defense in certain situations. Babin, Peek and Cheatwood all played DE. It would be even more difficult for a QB to pick up the blitz with 5 LB's to read than 4. With all the OLB's already on the Roster you have to wonder what another one is going to do.

BTW. I hope Cheatwood thaws out by spring practice. ;) We could use him when playing in GB on the "frozen tundra".
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You know with enough speed rushers on teh roster, running the 2-5 or even the 3-4 with say Babin lines up as a DE with Peek as teh OLB behind him would confsue the snot out of some O-lines/QBs. It would probaly only be a viable option once or twice a game, but it would some teeth to the front 7, and we all agree that that wouldn't be a bad thing.

Question for some of teh Tiger-Cat fans; who good are y'alls DBs? I'm just still amazed that a DE canrecord 11 sacks while lining up a yard of the ball.
 
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Question for some of teh Tiger-Cat fans; who good are y'alls DBs? I'm just still amazed that a DE canrecord 11 sacks while lining up a yard of the ball.

Actually, Tim had 14 sacks last year and our other Rush End Joe Montford had 13. Maybe the i yard off the ball might help an end because it gives you a bit of room to make a move on the defensive line. But you still have to be very fast to get to the QB especially a mobile QB which most of them are up here. Doug Flutie rewrote the record books up here as did his brother Darren (who just retired a few years ago from the Tiger Cats after becoming the Tiger Cat All-Time leading receiver)

As far as the DB's are concerned, we've had some great ones in the CFL over the years. It's not an easy job up here with the wide field, mobile QBs and deep end zones. Pressure on the QB is of key importance up here. A guy like Doug Flutie can make DB's look real bad due to the time he bought himself. He still has the knack of doing that in San Diego as you people can see.

We still shake our heads at Buffalo keeping Johnson over Flutie. Terrible move!

By the way, Darren Flutie is now a Colour Commentator during the football season

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/football/cfl-on-cbc/bio_flutie.html
 
Darren Flutie is now a Colour Commentator during the football season
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the dreaded canadian "u"s have invaded our board! we better break out the snow shovels before the "eh"s show up :)

hehe, Flutie hasnt had near as much success in the NFL. As NFL QBs go.. he below par. Hopefully Cheatwoods speed and pass rushing abilities will translate into the NFL more smoothly.
 
TigerCat Fan said:
Double Barrel wrote:

"And welcome to the Texans family. Hope you can make it down here one day to catch a game. You will definitely be invited to many tailgating activities...so many that you probably won't be able to make most of them."

Gee, thanks!...I'd love to go to Texas one day !.........Your BBQ's are legendary! I'm sure you're gonna love Tim Cheatwood!......He chases Quarterbacks like he's "posessed"


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Thats what we need to help Peek...I bet this guy could really shake up Manning...I was wondering if he tried out for Denver, why didn't they sign him???
 
I have seen some footage about this guy and he is a beast. However keep in mind the competition in the CFL and NFL is quite a bit different. If we sent seth payne to the CFL I bet he would be a *Offensive Linemen of the year*. Now we gotta see what this man can do in the real league. I have a feeling he will be flat his first year but maybe be a difference maker in the following year.
 
Hi Texans ... another Hamilton TigerCat fan here. It looks like you have a few of us interested in your team now that you have signed Tim Cheatwood. From my perspective, you have a very good rush end with lots of speed and tough as nails. I am a bit concerned with his size however. He is somewhat smaller than what you NFL'ers are used to seeing at that position. And he plays the game with a lot of intensity that often gets him into trouble with the officials.
Anyway, I wish him well in his new home. And I wish the Houston Texans well.

Bigbadjim - known as Bigjim on our own website, but it is already taken here.
 
Supertex said:
I have seen some footage about this guy and he is a beast. However keep in mind the competition in the CFL and NFL is quite a bit different. If we sent seth payne to the CFL I bet he would be a *Offensive Linemen of the year*. Now we gotta see what this man can do in the real league. I have a feeling he will be flat his first year but maybe be a difference maker in the following year.
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Another ticat fan here,that will be watching the texans this year if tim makes the team.But one thing I would like to say is our field is 110 yrds by 65 yrds, so the bigger you are the harder it is to play on a field that big, so maybe this payne guy could be off lineman of the year, but that is if he does not have a heart attack on the big field. :D
 
i see him following the Peek method. Getting alot of time on special teams, and some obvious pass situations, maybe 3-5 plays a game until he proves himself.

Clark Haggans went through the same thing with the steelers and is now looking like he has won the starting job and is going to be a very good player.
 
texansfan88 said:
If you look on the roster for the Texans, they know have Tim Cheatwood listed as a fullback. Anyone know if this is true?
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:hmmm: has to be a typo. That would be an interesting switch...
 
Must have been a typo...he's listed here as a LB, along with 13 other Texans that were signed today:

HOUSTON - The Houston Texans announced today that they have signed the following player to future contracts:
LB Tim Cheatwood (6-4, 258, Ohio State, first season)

DE Jason Davis (6-3, 320, West Virginia, first season)

LB Anthony Dunn (6-2, 246, Northern Colorado, first season)

LB Tyreo Harrison (6-2, 238, Notre Dame, second season)
T Casey Knutson (6-4, 290, Northern State, first season)

RB Adam Matthews (5-11, 205, Northern Colorado, first season)

LB David Moretti (6-1, 235, Oregon, first season)

WR Nick Narcisse (5-10, 178, Tulane, first season)

QB Preston Parsons (6-4, 236, Northern Arizona, first season)

P Cody Scates (6-1, 205, Texas A&M, first season)

K Chris Snyder (6-0, 190, Montana, first season)

WR Allen Suber (5-9, 189, Bethune-Cookman, first season)
WR Sloan Thomas (6-1, 203, Texas, first season)

SS David Young (6-1, 211, Georgia Southern, first season)
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he is the CFL sackleader for the hamilton Tiger-Cats, someone give him a thread please, oh he is a DE, but people are talkin about him being a OLB
 
Texans Pride said:
Who is Tim Cheatwood? I am not familure with him at all. Can somone give an info update please?
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Refer to the start of this thread for info.
He's pretty much a CFL sack machine...edgy like Peek.
 
TEXANS84 said:
Must have been a typo...he's listed here as a LB, along with 13 other Texans that were signed today:
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Are some of these people on this list ones that weren't drafted last year like the punter from A&M?
 
All are journeyman free agents and I don't think any were drafted except for Sloan Thomas.

Scates was with the Pats in the preseason and cut.

Davis, Dunn, Matthews, and Narcisse were all with the Texans in training camp and preseason '04 and later released. Davis, Dunn and Suber spent time on the Texans practice squad this past season.

Harrison spent time with the Eagles in '02 and '03. He was later claimed and released by the Packers in '04.

Moretti was in Browns camp in '04 and later released.

Most of these guys are camp fodder and some may be NFLE candidates. Of the guys on the list that I've seen, I've been most impressed with Anthony Dunn and Sloan Thomas.
 
texan279 said:
Does this seem odd to anyone else? We have Wong and Babin on the outside right now alternating Peek in as of late...why would we be looking at this type of player right now? Only thing I could think of is backup OLB :um: .
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It doesn't seem odd at all. Wong was our sack leader with only 5.5 sacks all season. We always could use a better pass rusher
 
It doesn't seem odd at all. Wong was our sack leader with only 5.5 sacks all season. We always could use a better pass rusher
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So who do you bench, the guy who led the team in sacks last year who is scheduled to make 4.5 million this season or the guy who you traded up to get who needs another year or two on the field to learn and make his transition?
 
Some of you seem to assume that Cheatwood is going to start right away.

There is a world of difference between the CFL and the NFL. Cheatwood is going to compete for a backup spot on the team and if he surprises the staff he could have a chance to compete for a starting job.

Let's not get carried away projecting him as a starter right off the bat.
 
aj. said:
Wong is entering the final year of his contract as is Sharper.
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This is interesting, who else is entering the final year of their contract ?
This could shed some light on which direction we go in the draft.

I can't imagine it being anything other that defense now. DL or ILB. Please spread the word that DJ didn't play that well in the Rose Bowl.
 
gabe said:
How much is known about Cheatwood's playing capabilities in the U.S.A
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He went to Ohio State. He started as a DB, then moved to LB then I think in his senior year was moved to DE. He had a very good year and was considered a potential draft pick, but you have to think that he was pretty raw having played only one year at DE. Also, I don’t know how big he was back then. Clearly he’d been bulking up pretty dramatically throughout his college career, and I think he’s put on 10 lbs or so in his time in the CFL too. So he was a marginal draft pick type guy out of college and he’s improved in the CFL as well as gotten bigger. If he can adjust back to the NFL style game, which he ought to be able to do given a little time, he stands a very good chance of being a very good NFL player.

A lot of the CFL guys who go back to the NFL after a time in the CFL have a story of some sort, so in assessing them it’s useful to find out what that story was. In Cheatwood’s case he seems to have done a fair bit of growing in college and only started playing DE in his Sr. year, IIRC. He continued to grow, both physically and as a player, in the CFL. I think he’s a very good prospect for you now although I wouldn’t predict that he starts right away. Given your depth at the position and the players who will be FAs next year, it wouldn’t surprise me if they are thinking more about next year to give him a shot at starting.
 
Hey guys!
Yet another Tiger Cats fan from Hamilton here!! Being a fan of both leagues, I can say that yes, the game is different, but for a guy like Cheatwood who truly is a QB's worst nightmare, I don't think the transition is going to be that tough. Sure, he may not start his first season down here.. but then again, I wouldn't rule the possibility out either. He's got speed and a whole lot of passion.

I just wanted to wish Tim and the Texans, a lot of luck next season!!
 
who else is entering the final year of their contract ?
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Notable contracts that end after the '05 season (guys with at least 3 years but less than 4 will be RFAs - guys with 4 or more years will be UFAs):

Armstrong
K Brown
Domanick
Peek
Pitts
Ragone
Sharper
R Walker
Wand
Wong

Technically, Carr's contract will also expire after '05. But before anyone panics, there's a built in option in his contract that will allow the Texans to extend him through '08 - if they choose to execute a rather large option bonus before March '06. He's now being paid like a top echelon QB so it's time for him to become a top echelon QB.
 
How's your O-line, we had a guy out of Louisville Jonta Woodard 6-5 325 lbs. He came to our free agent camp and showed enough promise to get invited to our real camp, he then proceded to not only make the team but as a starter, he only missed 1 series of downs all year, and that was due to a faked injury. he would be an asset to any team.
 
Caiteag said:
for a guy like Cheatwood who truly is a QB's worst nightmare
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What if this guy, coming in out of nowhere for the price of a song & dance,
turns out to be the pass rushing phenom we were hoping Babin would be ?
Somebody would have a serious case of egg on their face.
 
nunusguy said:
What if this guy, coming in out of nowhere for the price of a song & dance,
turns out to be the pass rushing phenom we were hoping Babin would be ?
Somebody would have a serious case of egg on their face.
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Why? Even if Babin does not turn out to be a good football player draft mistakes are a part of the business. I applaud the Texans for contining to overturn stones to find the edge rusher. anyway, I would suspect the everyone favorite, Peek, is the one would should worry most about is job.
 
aj. said:
Notable contracts that end after the '05 season (guys with at least 3 years but less than 4 will be RFAs - guys with 4 or more years will be UFAs)
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Gaffney will also eligible for UFA after the ’05 season because he’s met incentives to void his contract. I think the Texans will sign Jabar to an extension before that happens.

I also believe that the Texans and Carr will come to terms on a new deal after '05 that will ensure David being the Texan QB past 2010 (see McNabb, Culpepper, etc.)
 
Actually, I think Babin will be a good football player for us, but not be the pass rushing dimension this D needs so badly. But I'm convinced that's the
reason they paid so much for Babin, and they simply misjudged his abilities.
They let players who could help us in that area - the likes of Posey & Foley, slip thru their fingers (for whatever reason), and one gets the feeling we will have a deja vu situation with Peek.
Discovering the Cheatwoods is not their problem, its developing and retaining these guys after they find them.
 
Gaffney will also eligible for UFA after the ’05 season because he’s met incentives to void his contract
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Yes, for some reason I left Gaffney off my list. There's probably other errors so feel free to pick away. That was a hastily thrown down post early this morning and I need to go back and look at it a little closer when I have more time.

As far as the subject of this thread, I heard Charley say this morning that they are going to give Cheatwood a chance at ILB as well as outside. I had it in my head that this guy was strictly an edge guy/OLB candidate.
 
Just an FYI on Cheatwood. Casserly said this morning that they are not sure if Cheatwood will be playing ILB or OLB. That came as a suprise to me considering his potential as a pass rusher. He said they would decide where he is naturally suited during the spring.
 
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