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The Patriots don't usually re-sign key players...the Colts only do that on defense and keep everyone on offense, basically.
They don't sign guys that are going to bust their value in relation to the cap...tell Tom Brady they don't resign key guys...that's news to him.
 
So true.

Mario didn't even much look like the same guy he did in college. That injury really hurt his game alot this season.


That's really all I'm hanging my hopes on right now. I'm hoping that we saw a guy playing on one foot who's going to come back next season and look like a top ten pick.

I understand that there was a lot going on in Mario's rookie season. The whole defense was adjusting to a new scheme and the offense was too. In doing so they often left the defense in crappy positions early in the season. We've still got a lot of holes and we had plenty of injuries. Mario was hurting. I'm taking all of that into account and hoping that next year he becomes a force. I'm not counting on him becoming a superman or anything but I think he could look like a guy who clearly deserved to be picked in the top half of the first day. That would be fine by me.
 
They don't sign guys that are going to bust their value in relation to the cap...tell Tom Brady they don't resign key guys...that's news to him.
Joe Andruzzi, Deion Branch, David Patten, David Givens, Ty Law, Troy Vincent, Willie McGinnest....

Not exactly all-pro's, but all were pretty valuable. Or at least the guys that dished out all the money thought so.
 
I guess you missed his big 25 yard run, his 14 yard run...and he did score....something we don't do much of....we are a team that STRUGGLES to score two TD's in a game and we all minimize and spin when guys like VY and Bush put the ball in the end zone.....ugh, you guys keep hating...I'll enjoy some good football by some good players.

I second that statement. This is why if a guy like Adrian Peterson falls to us we have got to get him. He's not only a guy that can make good plays but he can run inside the tackles and can score from the redzone as well as 70 yards out.
 
The Patriots don't usually re-sign key players...the Colts only do that on defense and keep everyone on offense, basically.
the patriots resign their core guys like brady and seymour and let positions like WR go because they know brady can make it work with a less than stellar but solid cast of characters like dillon, troy brown, daniel graham, etc. givens did nothing this year and branch was mostly a non factor after his holdout and subsequent trade to seattle.
 
Joe Andruzzi, Deion Branch, David Patten, David Givens, Ty Law, Troy Vincent, Willie McGinnest....

Not exactly all-pro's, but all were pretty valuable. Or at least the guys that dished out all the money thought so.
Andruzzi didn't have such a good year last year, Branch is a little above average, David Patton? LOL....Givens? please. Ty Law, Vincent and McGinnest were old....drafting well gives you a chance to replace them....which brings me back to my original point.

your posts have been weak lately. I thought I'd see much more from you in your FA year. Hopefully Kubiak can coach you up some next year.
 
Andruzzi didn't have such a good year last year, Branch is a little above average, David Patton? LOL....Givens? please. Ty Law, Vincent and McGinnest were old....drafting well gives you a chance to replace them....which brings me back to my original point.

In addition, Asante Samuel has really evolved into a great #1 corner (they must have seen that one coming). I really don't see the Patriots letting this guy go in free agency.
 
You know what i realized what happened to the Troy Smith hype and holler. Did that bowl game performance pretty much poo poo him in the eyes of the NFL? Because i havent heard much of anything about him lately
 
You know what i realized what happened to the Troy Smith hype and holler. Did that bowl game performance pretty much poo poo him in the eyes of the NFL? Because i havent heard much of anything about him lately
some media and a bunch of fans were pimping him...it's not like we know what most of the scouts were thinking or are thinking.
 
In addition, Asante Samuel has really evolved into a great #1 corner (they must have seen that one coming). I really don't see the Patriots letting this guy go in free agency.
they let defensive backfield stalwarts law and milloy go, so it wouldnt surprise me if samuel didnt come back.
 
Avenged Sevenfold Texan said:
Please cancel my account here please. Need to stop stressing over peoples stupid comments.
I didn't bump this thread...Avenged Sevenfold Texan did.

...in case anyone was wondering...I just logged on and he contacted me to delete his account (his pm above). This was totally unsolicited (dude has had a bunch of different accounts anyway).
 
I want Landry in the 1st, and a RB in the second. Someone's lightning to Dayne's Thunder. There will still be quality backs there, and Saftey is a bigger need.

About this guy, he is built like a train and will come down and hit you, BUT this guy gets so lost when the ball is in the air, he and PBuc almost look the same when the ball is in the air, he will bite on PA too much and that is not good when we got Peyton twice a year. 1st rd guy yea but he scares me in pass coverage, I will give him this though he is better then Roy Williams at Coverage, atleast LaRon does not get totally burnt he is around the ball.
 
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All I want to know vinny is when you guys are going to come out from under the VY/Bush cloud ? Ten months now, they're not on our team. Argueing about them wether they should have, could have, sopposed have, is on the same par as argueing how many angeles can dance on the head of the pin. Redundant. And meaningless.

What you say is true, but until the Texans provide a product that is interesting and winning this is going to continue (and maybe not stop then). You may want to stay away from the boards if the Saints go to the Superbowl especially if Bush makes anything close to a significant play to help them get there.
 
You're just as guilty as Vinny then. I'm supporting the choice. I'm not banging on the decsion. Therefore I should leave because ? Y'all have been brooding on this for a while now. I lot of people on the mb need to grow up. The tantrums are growing weary. I don't have a problem with RB. I gotta a problem with non Texans fans banging on my team. On my board.
 
You're just as guilty as Vinny then. I'm supporting the choice. I'm not banging on the decsion. Therefore I should leave because ? Y'all have been brooding on this for a while now. I lot of people on the mb need to grow up. The tantrums are growing weary. I don't have a problem with RB. I gotta a problem with non Texans fans banging on my team. On my board.


Not sure, what I am exactly gulity of, but i am merely stating you are going to get the Bush/Young/CArr/Mario talk on this board until the Texans provide something on the field. The best way to combat the talk is not to participate in those particular threads because they are predictable. I can't control what others post, but I can control what I participate in. I don't seriously mean find another MB, but understand the environment.
 
They did this season. They won two more games than they should have. Argueing about should of, could of, and might have beens is just licking the spilled milk up off the floor. Even if it is true, which I do not conceed ..yet, what is the point ? Everyone else goes running off the cliff, does that mean I should follow ? I don't think so. I'm happy. Just tring to point out those who are not are grieving for no reason. Be stud QBs and RBs in ervery draft. Mario prospect comes around once every blue moon. He might not make it. Might be a bust. So what ? Milk is on the floor, lick it if you want I'll pass. No amount of belly aching is going to unspill it.
 
They did this season. They won two more games than they should have. Argueing about should of, could of, and might have beens is just licking the spilled milk up off the floor. Even if it is true, which I do not conceed ..yet, what is the point ? Everyone else goes running off the cliff, does that mean I should follow ? I don't think so. I'm happy. Just tring to point out those who are not are grieving for no reason. Be stud QBs and RBs in ervery draft. Mario prospect comes around once every blue moon. He might not make it. Might be a bust. So what ? Milk is on the floor, lick it if you want I'll pass. No amount of belly aching is going to unspill it.

Right now, you are belly-aching about other people's belly-aching. So what does that accomplish? Seriously, there is a reason why I have one of the lowest post totals among the mods. I refuse to :brickwall talking about the same stuff we have for the last year plus.

As for the season, the Texans went from the worst team in the league to another bad team. Improvement yes...quality football no.
 
So let me get your logic down here. I'm belly aching becuase the board is negitive beyound belief. Crying about something that should of been let go long ago. I should follow your example and...basically give up ? There is acording to you, no hope ? Good Grief. And if you check me...I've refraind from them too.
 
You're just as guilty as Vinny then. I'm supporting the choice. I'm not banging on the decsion. Therefore I should leave because ? Y'all have been brooding on this for a while now. I lot of people on the mb need to grow up. The tantrums are growing weary. I don't have a problem with RB. I gotta a problem with non Texans fans banging on my team. On my board.
Guilty of giving my honest opinion? good gravy Pete...I've met you in person...I'm just not fake and most of you who haven't met me I'd expect this crap from...but you have sat with me during camp..... I just don't lie about what I honestly think just to be popular. If you want me to be a homer it's never going to happen.
 
So let me get your logic down here. I'm belly aching becuase the board is negitive beyound belief. Crying about something that should of been let go long ago. I should follow your example and...basically give up ? There is acording to you, no hope ? Good Grief. And if you check me...I've refraind from them too.

Yes, give up trying to change the minds of people who minds are not going to be changed. Does wonders for your perception of this board.

Fighting the fight for sake of fighting the fight does not make you a good fan, this a better message, or those guys go away.
 
Guilty of giving my honest opinion? good gravy Pete...I've met you in person...I'm just not fake and most of you who haven't met me I'd expect this crap from...but you have sat with me during camp..... I just don't lie about what I honestly think just to be popular. If you want me to be a homer it's never going to happen.

and I haven't called you out Vinny. At all. You think it was a bad move, I haven't banged on your opinion at all. Just tring to point stuff out. I like you alot.
 
About this guy, he is built like a train and will come down and hit you, BUT this guy gets so lost when the ball is in the air, he and PBuc almost look the same when the ball is in the air, he will bite on PA too much and that is not good when we got Peyton twice a year. 1st rd guy yea but he scares me in pass coverage, I will give him this though he is better then Roy Williams at Coverage, atleast LaRon does not get totally burnt he is around the ball.

I actually think he is pretty damn good in coverage....I don't really know why you would be scared.
 
I actually think he is pretty damn good in coverage....I don't really know why you would be scared.

From some of the plays they showed on NFL network and what I have seen, when the ball is in the air he has trouble, like I said he can cover and is not beat, HE just needs to work on playing the ball instincts and not geting lost while the ball is in the air.
 
From some of the plays they showed on NFL network and what I have seen, when the ball is in the air he has trouble, like I said he can cover and is not beat, HE just needs to work on playing the ball instincts and not geting lost while the ball is in the air.

A Houston fan living in Santa Cruz? I live in Santa Cruz too. :banana:
 
Well we were going to draft a RB with the first pick last year until Bush's agent became difficult and the housing scandal broke.

Plus like Hoth-Boy said, we were going to trade back into the first round to draft DeAngelo Williams before the Bills offered a better deal.

I remember that and was like wow! I wish that would have went down!
 
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