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That's a crappy rule. How about the rest of the losing teams in the NFL all wait until after the Superbowl to start the carousel?
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so if we go into the ravens game with a half ass game plan cause wades head has been else where, you wont be mad ??? Think about what happened with sumlin and the cougars, this is the same scenario and it didnt work out to good for them.
Don't bother with him. All he'll do is call you names and spin things as he goes.
Then he'll follow you around to all your other posts in other threads and talk **** on you every time you post something. Trust me.
Maybe you missed where I said YES HE IS GREAT, but you cannot deny the fact we got almost half of a new starting defense with the players from the draft and with the guys coming back from injury. He makes a difference, but lets not act as if he did it with scrubs, like he would have to do in Tampa or Miami....thats the point, he has a nice thing going here and I doubt he ups and leaves just because someone came calling. Its nice to know people want you....
Think maybe that all Wade is doing is bucking for a raise?
"See Mr. McNair . . . Everybody wants me. How bad do you want me back?"
And I'm sure the Denver fans weren't too pleased when there was talk of Kubiak coming to Houston. When you get a playoff successful football team, you get the whole package.
OMG youre such a whiney little BIA. Of course they will interview him, along with COUNTLESS other people. The guy has a 1-5 HC playoff record and during 04-06 with Chargers as DC he did not win a playoff game and during the Vick years in 02-03 he won ONE playoff game as DC. Yes he is great, but we have 5 starters on this team that did not play last season (Watt, Reed, Manning, Joseph and Barwin, not to mention a healthy Ryans, Cushing and a full season with Allen). We upgraded poor talent ( Pollard, Wilson, Okoye, Diles, Bentley, Adibi, Lewis, etc).
Not to mention the guy is what, 64? He would instantly be one of, if not the oldest, HC in the league. Older coaches is OK, but only if you had them, you don't hire a 64 year old, who will be 65 by next season and coming off a surgery like he is. Not to mention, no team out there has the "groceries" like our team. We are the best fit for him and if it is about money, I am sure Uncle Bob will give him more. The guy wants to have leverage to get more, fine by me. If you LOVE your job and another company wants to interview you, you do it, not because you will for sure take it, but you explore your options and use it as leverage.
I doubt he gets offered the job and even if he does, I doubt he takes it. Houston has some of the best medical hospitals in the nation, he is close to family, he gets paid a lot and we're young and dominating after ONE SEASON with no off-season. He is prime position to leave a great mark on his legacy by staying where he is.
The timing is what ticks me off. We're in the middle of a playoff run, and Wade is busy looking for another job?
If our defense completely fails during the Baltimore game, I know who I'm going to blame; and it's not Kubiak.
No, but every thread I go into you are whining like a little 5 year old girl who just got her barbie taken away. we just won our first playoff game EVER and you are complaining, go figure![]()
Maybe you missed where I said YES HE IS GREAT, but you cannot deny the fact we got almost half of a new starting defense with the players from the draft and with the guys coming back from injury. He makes a difference, but lets not act as if he did it with scrubs, like he would have to do in Tampa or Miami....thats the point, he has a nice thing going here and I doubt he ups and leaves just because someone came calling. Its nice to know people want you....
yep, great point. We have to always try to stay objective that success will often bring undesired consequences like players wanting more money and coaches getting offered jobs.
It's just the way things work. I just hope you're right that Wade is positioning himself for a raise. Bum said in a recent Bob Allen interview that Wade did not want any head coaching gig, but one that was right for him. According to Bum, Wade does not want to have to rebuild a team, so I'm not sure if the Bucs qualify as a team that just needs a head coach to make the difference.
I see it as more of an ego thing than a money thing. He probably sees all of the things Kubes does as HC and thinks of how he would do them differently(read better). If it is about money, open up that pocket book, Mr. McNair.Think maybe that all Wade is doing is bucking for a raise?
"See Mr. McNair . . . Everybody wants me. How bad do you want me back?"
And I'm sure the Denver fans weren't too pleased when there was talk of Kubiak coming to Houston. When you get a playoff successful football team, you get the whole package.
So did the Texans give this permission for during the off week prior to our Super Bowl appearance?McClain_on_NFL John McClain
The Texans have given Tampa Bay permission to interview defensive coordinator Wade Phillips for their vacant head coaching job.
Ive talked to you in TWO THREADS, this one and the one about Rackers being a concern. Both of them you blew things our of proportion and were over critical. I see this is a pattern for you.....
half ??? watt, reed, jojo, manning. thats 4 out of 11. and if williams hadnt went down reed wouldnt be starting
I'm telling ya'......you ought to know where this is heading, Ellis.
Oh, I see. It's just ME complaining huh? LOL. FAIL.
Everybody is worried about it and hates it. But you choose me because you know I'll fight back and spar with you on here.
I know people like you, bro. You do this **** because it puts you up against me and gives you some spotlight on here. Others have come here and tried this same song and dance, and they end up getting banned or they leave. Happens about once every year, actually. So you're not doing anything I don't already know about already.
Try countering my points instead of name-calling. "Whiny *****," and "a girl who had her Barbies taken away," it's all name-calling and you ought to be spoken to by a mod for it. In fact, I've reported your posts to a mod for just that reason. Well, that...AND the way you continuously pick a fight with me.
You're lying (again) when you say things like you do about me. And the name-calling is a gesture born out of your inability to let the facts stand on their own. Everybody is concerned about these Wade rumors. If you're acting like you're not, then you're fooling nobody with the act. Worst to first, in one year, and the defense looked less than stellar when he was gone for surgery and recovering. Period.
A lot of teams out there see it, and they think they can bring him in and replicate the same accomplishment. They don't care if they have to make him a HC to do it...Kubiak was made a HC and basically was hired for his ability to coach QBs and make a good offense. Care to counter this point, or just want to throw out more name-calling against me???
I've neg repped you, you've earned it. First neg rep I've handed out to a fellow Texans fan in several years. Counter my points or shut your trap.
Think maybe that all Wade is doing is bucking for a raise?
"See Mr. McNair . . . Everybody wants me. How bad do you want me back?"
And I'm sure the Denver fans weren't too pleased when there was talk of Kubiak coming to Houston. When you get a playoff successful football team, you get the whole package.
Maybe you missed where I said YES HE IS GREAT, but you cannot deny the fact we got almost half of a new starting defense with the players from the draft and with the guys coming back from injury. He makes a difference, but lets not act as if he did it with scrubs, like he would have to do in Tampa or Miami....thats the point, he has a nice thing going here and I doubt he ups and leaves just because someone came calling. Its nice to know people want you....
There's no credible source that Wade is interviewing for the Bucs job this week. There is a source that shows that the NFL has a rule against interviewing coaches during the playoffs (unless it's a bye week). Nothing to get upset about and no real distractions for this team's preparation for the Ravens.I'm not happy about this. It's like Kevin Sumlins crappy distraction that likely cost the Coogs an undefeated season. This isn't the time to be job hunting.
Counter your post? You wasted 20 seconds of my life for reading yet another rant in which included NO FACTS. In case you did not know, your OPINION is not fact. Kubiak took 6 SEASONS to win, do you think any team will give a 65 year old man who just had surgery 6 seasons to win? Don't be naive....
HAHA, you can classify me in any way you'd like. I call it as I see it, I was once told, quantity over quality when posting. You should learn that. Just because you have been around here longer and have a large post count doesn't mean you are going to "bully" me around and threaten me with reporting me to a mod. i called you out for acting out and being whiney, so if I get warned, so be it. Won't be banned for that minor infraction and I definitely WON'T be leaving.
Like I said, Wade is a big improvement on this defense, coaching wise, but to pretend it was ALL him is ignorant. It just is, you are clearly ignoring every fact about his past, present and future I have thrown out at you. The only "argument" and it really isnt even that, you have is that other posters think it is bad for us. LOL, doesn't make any of you right.
For the record, I want him to stay AND think he does, but I will not cry if he leaves and will not whine about an interview like you have chosen to do. i have confidence that we will hire another good DC and our young defense got a taste of greatness, they will continue to thrive for it regardless who is calling the shots. And for Herring a few weeks back, I credit that to winning a division and let down games, also I credit it to Herring being thrown to the wolves and most likely told not to think to much. the team was riding a high from clinching the division and he was prolly nervous as all get out. Can't win them all....
Teams may not interview assistants from another team for either a lateral move or a head coaching opportunity during the season. The lone exception to this rule comes when teams want to interview assistants for head coaching jobs while the current team is in the playoffs. As there is an urgency to hire new head coaches for some non-playoff teams, the NFL does allow teams to request permission to interview a postseason participant's assistants during the wild card week for teams who have the bye that week. They can also request permission to do so during the first week of Super Bowl preparations as long as there is a two-week break between the conference championships and the Super Bowl. The team only has one chance to talk to the assistant coach, once permission is granted, before the coach's team is eliminated from the playoffs.
I'm not happy about this. It's like Kevin Sumlins crappy distraction that likely cost the Coogs an undefeated season. This isn't the time to be job hunting.
There's no credible source that Wade is interviewing for the Bucs job this week. There is a source that shows that the NFL has a rule against interviewing coaches during the playoffs (unless it's a bye week). Nothing to get upset about and no real distractions for this team's preparation for the Ravens.
That's my concern -- how will his strength hold up?after seeing Wade in his post game interview, I can't think he is going to come off real well in an interview. He looks weak and sick.
And to the posters who are overreacting to this story: You're overreacting.
"They called," Phillips said. "The club notified me and gave them permission to talk. The window is a couple of weeks that you can talk. So I expect to talk to them later this week."There's no credible source that Wade is interviewing for the Bucs job this week.
No, your interpretation is absolutely correct. Had John McClain bothered to research this, the forum would not be in a panic.Someone help me out. What I gather from that quote is that the rule prevents Tampa Bay from contacting Phillips because the Texans didn't have a bye during the wild card round and this isn't the two week break period prior to the Super Bowl. Is my reading comprehension failing me?
Maybe the NFL will give us their 1st rounder in the draft for tampering....Someone help me out. What I gather from that quote is that the rule prevents Tampa Bay from contacting Phillips because the Texans didn't have a bye during the wild card round and this isn't the two week break period prior to the Super Bowl. Is my reading comprehension failing me?
there ellisunit I have HIGHLIGHTED it for you.
Also, I will name them
Watt
reed
manning
JJo
Ryans - INJURY
Barwin- INJURY
Cushing - INJURY, played hurt all season
THATS 7 GUYS, 6 if you take out Cushing. Thats more than half either way. See the point?
And GP, I am not going anywhere. And also, show me the multiple threads I have followed you in, because I am telling you it was 2. This one and rackers, and you attacked me in the Rackers thread first.
Hows about I just put you on ignore? That's the next logical step, and I'll be the bigger man to do it. OK?
This way, I won't see your ****...so you can name-call away and get your ass steamrolled one day for it. If I don't see your trash talk, I won't take your bait. If I don't take your bait, you'll leave me alone at some point or sabotage yourself and get rolled out of here by a mod.
Welcome to the list. You're the only one on it. It's reserved for that rare breed of "person" who just wants to start fights. I was minding my own business, having discussion with others, and you rolled into the thread and predictably started talking **** on me when there are others on here saying similar things about this topic. Say Watt is a guy you aren't trolling on, why doesn't HE get some of your special home cooking???? Point made. Stalker.
Last interaction with me, Andre80. Squeaky wheel gets the grease.
seriously are you ****ing kidding me. Ryans, Barwin and Cushing. No **** they were hurt but they all did play some last season. And have you looked at Wades career as a D.C he has took every team to the play off in his first year as a D.C. Get outta here with that ****, not to mention Wade had a big impact on the draft and getting watt and reed.
there ellisunit I have HIGHLIGHTED it for you.
Also, I will name them
Watt
reed
manning
JJo
Ryans - INJURY
Barwin- INJURY
Cushing - INJURY, played hurt all season
THATS 7 GUYS, 6 if you take out Cushing. Thats more than half either way. See the point?
And GP, I am not going anywhere. And also, show me the multiple threads I have followed you in, because I am telling you it was 2. This one and rackers, and you attacked me in the Rackers thread first.
Has anyone asked McClain on Twitter how Phillips could interview with the Bucs when there is a NFL rule that prohibits such?John McClain
@McClain_on_NFL
Phillips should interview with Bucs Friday. "I'm gratified somebody noticed. I don't want to leave Hst but I want 2 b a head coach."
Someone help me out. What I gather from that quote is that the rule prevents Tampa Bay from contacting Phillips because the Texans didn't have a bye during the wild card round and this isn't the two week break period prior to the Super Bowl. Is my reading comprehension failing me?
Am I reading that wrong? It says he can only interview during wilcard week only if that team has a bye?
How many playoff games has he won as a HC or DC? Can you tell me? Getting the playoffs is great, but don't you want more? How many super bowl rings does he have, even as a DC?
Barwin was injured on like the first play of the game last season. Cushing missed 4 games, then Ryans almost immediately went out and Cushing bounced around, not to mention was injured himself. Are you claiming our defense did not get much better talent wise compared to last season?
Has anyone asked McClain on Twitter how Phillips could interview with the Bucs when there is a NFL rule that prohibits such?
And when did Wade start texting like a teenage girl? "2 b"?
Of course they will interview him, along with COUNTLESS other people. The guy has a 1-5 HC playoff record and during 04-06 with Chargers as DC he did not win a playoff game and during the Vick years in 02-03 he won ONE playoff game as DC. Yes he is great, but we have 5 starters on this team that did not play last season (Watt, Reed, Manning, Joseph and Barwin, not to mention a healthy Ryans, Cushing and a full season with Allen). We upgraded poor talent ( Pollard, Wilson, Okoye, Diles, Bentley, Adibi, Lewis, etc).
Not to mention the guy is what, 64? He would instantly be one of, if not the oldest, HC in the league. Older coaches is OK, but only if you had them, you don't hire a 64 year old, who will be 65 by next season and coming off a surgery like he is. Not to mention, no team out there has the "groceries" like our team. We are the best fit for him and if it is about money, I am sure Uncle Bob will give him more. The guy wants to have leverage to get more, fine by me. If you LOVE your job and another company wants to interview you, you do it, not because you will for sure take it, but you explore your options and use it as leverage.
I doubt he gets offered the job and even if he does, I doubt he takes it. Houston has some of the best medical hospitals in the nation, he is close to family, he gets paid a lot and we're young and dominating after ONE SEASON with no off-season. He is prime position to leave a great mark on his legacy by staying where he is.
Has anyone asked McClain on Twitter how Phillips could interview with the Bucs when there is a NFL rule that prohibits such?
And when did Wade start texting like a teenage girl? "2 b"?
hard to get to a super bowl if you dont make the play offs..... not to mention its a whole new scheme and wade put our guys in position to win. Barwin and mario went from DE to OLB, Quin from CB to safety. the packages as well. And how do we get to a superbowl when our D.C is interviewing for other jobs 2 days before the 2nd round of the playoffs.
Yeah, my bs meter was going off when I read the tweet