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The OFFICIAL Hate Thread

Uncle Rico said:
I hate passive aggressive guys who beat around the bush with loaded comments instead of just being a man from the get go.

I hate Bill O'Briens pit of misery he calls a chin.

I hate defensive celebrations when your team is down by more than 20.

I hate 7 yard outs on 3rd down when you need 8.

I hate having a running back that ran a 4.3 40 at the combine and we run him up the middle 20 times a game.
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I'm with you in hating pass patterns 1 yard short of the marker on 3rd down, and other stupid little things you can do to lose games.
I also hate sunny days, more than 1 wash rag hanging in the shower, rap, Colo-gard commercials, creeping socialism, etc.
 
I hate that I don't know where all the Joe Webb hate is coming from. What did I miss? He caught a couple IIRC.
 
What I hate is Watt being held so obviously 10 times a game with no call, like at 2:28 in the 4th along with a ticky tack call against Jackson.

I also hate Watt lined up so far outside, so that he runs past the QB 25 times a game.

I hate today’s game, pitiful.....
 
I hate turtles

I hate trumpist types that when you show them reality in black and white tangible proof THEY STILL will argue and try to prove an obvious lie or just shift attention completly to another falsehood or fairy tale.

I hate excuses
I hate stubbornness
I hate antiquated policy in a modern world.

I hate not using one of the best kickers in football as a weapon.

I hate the growing pains with a young QB
I hate being patient
 
[QUOTE="theCATALYST, post: 2888588, member: 56218"
...I hate UFO coverups...
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UFO's started here and have since spread to other countries. They were initially super-secret weapon/surveillance systems using technology you haven't even heard of. How to conceal the origen of properties that were bound to be noticed? Blame them on visitors from space, the Dept.of Defense decided!
Plant a few incidents and stories, and kooks and liars will fill in the rest! The best way to make somebody believe something is to act like you're trying to hide it. For decades the DOD has been covertly planting evidence and stories of alien visitors, while publicly ridiculing "saucer" theories in a clever double bluff. JMO
 
austins23 said:
I hate the rule that got Clowney flagged yesterday to end the game. Stupid ****** rule!
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What do you propose as the new rule? DLine needs to stay set like the offense? That doesn't make sense. If DLine jumps across the line he's offsides even if he gets back before the snap? That's worse than the current rule also IMO. Only penalize the D when Oline 'really' moved because of DLine and not when they intentionally move to draw the flag? You want refs trying to interpret intentional OLine movement vs reactional movement? I don't see a problem with the rule. Just don't freaking jump offsides, especially when the game potentially rides on it.
 
Max said:
What do you propose as the new rule? DLine needs to stay set like the offense? That doesn't make sense. If DLine jumps across the line he's offsides even if he gets back before the snap? That's worse than the current rule also IMO. Only penalize the D when Oline 'really' moved because of DLine and not when they intentionally move to draw the flag? You want refs trying to interpret intentional OLine movement vs reactional movement? I don't see a problem with the rule. Just don't freaking jump offsides, especially when the game potentially rides on it.
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It's a dumb rule. Hell, the refs screwed the pooch. For instance, at 1:56 in the first quarter, JJ jumps and gets back and gets set. The lineman didn't make a move until JJ was back set. Flags all over the place. Referee says, "the defender got back and was not offside, false start, offense."
BUT, at the end of the game, SAME exact situation with Clowney. He gets back, but the lineman stands up and points at him. Offside (encroachment) whatever, game over.

It's a stupid rule.
 
infantrycak said:
All that matters is where you are at the snap so long as you don't contact an offensive player.
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Isn't that the current rule by the example austin just gave?

austins23 said:
It's a dumb rule. Hell, the refs screwed the pooch. For instance, at 1:56 in the first quarter, JJ jumps and gets back and gets set. The lineman didn't make a move until JJ was back set. Flags all over the place. Referee says, "the defender got back and was not offside, false start, offense."
BUT, at the end of the game, SAME exact situation with Clowney. He gets back, but the lineman stands up and points at him. Offside (encroachment) whatever, game over.

It's a stupid rule.
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Makes sense to me that Oline would get penalized when JJ was back behind the line. What do you propose to change about the rule?
 
I hate that BOB's a good HC, maybe not a great HC but at the very least a good HC and mny on here act like he's a terrible HC.

I also hate when there's somebody sitting in my seats as I'm getting to them and ready to watch the game.
 
Max said:
Isn't that the current rule by the example austin just gave?

Makes sense to me that Oline would get penalized when JJ was back behind the line. What do you propose to change about the rule?
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Clowney was also back behind the line, but he was penalized, not the offense. JJ was back behind the line and the offense was penalized.

Used to be the defense could jump and get back as long as no contact was made with the offense. No penalty. Now if the defensive player jumps, all the offense has to do is react and it's offside. The offense used to have hold its water til the ball was snapped.
 
infantrycak said:
No, the OL are invited to move/react under the current rule. They should stay set.
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So there was a time when the DLineman jumped across the line and the Olineman moved in response and the flag was on the Olineman because the ball wasn't snapped yet? I don't recall that ever being the case. Seems unfair to the Olineman.


austins23 said:
Clowney was also back behind the line, but he was penalized, not the offense. JJ was back behind the line and the offense was penalized.

Used to be the defense could jump and get back as long as no contact was made with the offense. No penalty. Now if the defensive player jumps, all the offense has to do is react and it's offside. The offense used to have hold its water til the ball was snapped.
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It's my understanding that this is the rule as you pointed out in the JJ case. If the defender is back behind the LOS before the Oline moves, then the call should be against the offense. That wasn't the case w/ Clowney:
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Max said:
So there was a time when the DLineman jumped across the line and the Olineman moved in response and the flag was on the Olineman because the ball wasn't snapped yet? I don't recall that ever being the case. Seems unfair to the Olineman.
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Yup, this used to be the case. The NFL eventually agreed with you as being unfair to the OL, though, and changed the rule.
 
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Max said:
So there was a time when the DLineman jumped across the line and the Olineman moved in response and the flag was on the Olineman because the ball wasn't snapped yet? I don't recall that ever being the case. Seems unfair to the Olineman.


It's my understanding that this is the rule as you pointed out in the JJ case. If the defender is back behind the LOS before the Oline moves, then the call should be against the offense. That wasn't the case w/ Clowney:
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Yeah early during this game one our defenders jumped offside but was able to get back before the ball was snapped. One of their olinemen jumped. And the penalty was called on them.

So I couldn't understand what was the difference here.
 
From what I remember JJ was back on his side of the line before an olineman moved.... Clowney was still on the Colts side of the line when the Oline moved
 
There's a lot of hate for Clowney and I really want to give him a pass because quite obviously he was in the mood to fire off in hopes of making a play so that we would have a chance to go back on offense and therefore a chance to win however... You have to be a special kind of stupid and or ignorant of the whole situation to not realize after the first 12 hard counts/barks by Luck that all he was doing was trying to draw someone offsides, so, chalking this one up to stupid.. no pass given.
 
Sonny said:
There's a lot of hate for Clowney and I really want to give him a pass because quite obviously he was in the mood to fire off in hopes of making a play so that we would have a chance to go back on offense and therefore a chance to win however... You have to be a special kind of stupid and or ignorant of the whole situation to not realize after the first 12 hard counts/barks by Luck that all he was doing was trying to draw someone offsides, so, chalking this one up to stupid.. no pass given.
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Yep,

Remember the Tacks game.

That could be the game along with the Colts game that costs them HOA.
 
steelbtexan said:
Yep,

Remember the Tacks game.

That could be the game along with the Colts game that costs them HOA.
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The worse thing about the first Titans game is the fact that is OB's first loss after leading by halftime. The Texans were dominating every category except points at the end. lol


:toropalm:
 
It comes down to talent for the most part ladies and gents. The Texans are lacking in talent to be true contenders. Lombardi/Landry could come back from the dead and coach this team and they still wouldn't be true contenders.
 
I hate that being a Houston pro football fan for my entire life has made me cynical as **** about sports in general.

I can always "hope for the best" as a fan, but I truly always expect the worst from our football teams.

This year's Texans will make the playoffs and choke out. I hate that.

And while I'm here, I also hate soft music and stupidity.
 
Double Barrel said:
I hate that being a Houston pro football fan for my entire life has made me cynical as **** about sports in general.

I can always "hope for the best" as a fan, but I truly always expect the worst from our football teams.

This year's Texans will make the playoffs and choke out. I hate that.

And while I'm here, I also hate soft music and stupidity.
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Agree with everything you said except there is some soft music I enjoy
 
talent again huh: okay lets do this.

Hopkins - ALL PRO
WATT - ALL PRO
JJO - PRO BOWL
KJAX - PRO BOWL
Mathieu - PRO BOWL
Watson - Borderline
Miller (this year) - 6th highest rushing yards in NFL currently
Fairbairn (this year) ALL PRO/PRO BOWL
Clowney - Pro Bowl
DT (traded for) - ex All Pro/ Pro Bowl

Offensive line grades through week 14: All scoring as "average" except Davenport who is billed "below average"

Davenport 52.1
Kelemete 58.0
Martin 60.3
Fulton 55.1
Lamm 62.5

Defensive Line/LBs

Covington 65.1
Reader 73.0
Mercilus 60.6
McKinney 75.0
Cunningham 66.2


Justin Reid could be in coversation for DROY .. Trevor Daniel has been playing great.

This team has plenty of talent to win games (as they have been) and with a bye and some home cooking could flat out win this thing if they hit the playoffs in stride and get great coaching and execution. May need to modify this argument to the "I meant depth" category.
 
Uncle Rico said:
talent again huh: okay lets do this.

Hopkins - ALL PRO
WATT - ALL PRO
JJO - PRO BOWL
KJAX - PRO BOWL
Mathieu - PRO BOWL
Watson - Borderline
Miller (this year) - 6th highest rushing yards in NFL currently
Fairbairn (this year) ALL PRO/PRO BOWL
Clowney - Pro Bowl
DT (traded for) - ex All Pro/ Pro Bowl

Offensive line grades through week 14: All scoring as "average" except Davenport who is billed "below average"

Davenport 52.1
Kelemete 58.0
Martin 60.3
Fulton 55.1
Lamm 62.5

Defensive Line/LBs

Covington 65.1
Reader 73.0
Mercilus 60.6
McKinney 75.0
Cunningham 66.2


Justin Reid could be in coversation for DROY .. Trevor Daniel has been playing great.

This team has plenty of talent to win games (as they have been) and with a bye and some home cooking could flat out win this thing if they hit the playoffs in stride and get great coaching and execution. May need to modify this argument to the "I meant depth" category.
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I agree we have a lot of talent; we just have some critical holes. Fix a few things and this team should be extremely good.

I am hoping they can make it all the way, but not confident they can.
 
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Uncle Rico said:
talent again huh: okay lets do this.

Hopkins - ALL PRO
WATT - ALL PRO
JJO - PRO BOWL
KJAX - PRO BOWL
Mathieu - PRO BOWL
Watson - Borderline
Miller (this year) - 6th highest rushing yards in NFL currently
Fairbairn (this year) ALL PRO/PRO BOWL
Clowney - Pro Bowl
DT (traded for) - ex All Pro/ Pro Bowl

Offensive line grades through week 14: All scoring as "average" except Davenport who is billed "below average"

Davenport 52.1
Kelemete 58.0
Martin 60.3
Fulton 55.1
Lamm 62.5

Defensive Line/LBs

Covington 65.1
Reader 73.0
Mercilus 60.6
McKinney 75.0
Cunningham 66.2


Justin Reid could be in coversation for DROY .. Trevor Daniel has been playing great.

This team has plenty of talent to win games (as they have been) and with a bye and some home cooking could flat out win this thing if they hit the playoffs in stride and get great coaching and execution. May need to modify this argument to the "I meant depth" category.
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Good post.. the team has good talent, but there is no denying they are deficient on the o-line. & i'm sorry, that's not coaching. Literally all those guys except Martin were back-ups the year prior and the weakest link of them all is still not avg. Compared to where they started out though, I think BoB and Devlin are getting about as much out of this group as possible. The scheme has been greatly limited b/c of these guys & we know this b/c when the run game is on point, we've seen play calls from BoB that we don't normally see. They are what they are. Adding even just a great LT has the potential to change this o-line from a liability to solid. Sua-fi-lo's been playing decent for the cowboys...………………….mainly b/c he's been playing next to a premium talent in Tyron Smith & he's blocking for a rb with good vision in Elliott.
 
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