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The Official Half Assed Jackuars @ Texans Clinch the Division Gameday Thread

Great win by the Texans. Congratulations to the Texan team and fans.
infantrycak said:
Describe our offense?
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Was the answer you were looking for Erhardt-Perkins?

The reason I ask is that as I understand it, there are three basic offenses used in the NFL. They are:

1. West Coast Offense.
2. Air Coryell
3. Erhardt-Perkins

Most teams appear to run variations of the West Coast Offense. However, I know that Dallas and Minnesota run variations of the Air Coryell and New England and Houston run the Erhardt-Perkins.

Brian Hoyer cut his teeth on the Erhardt-Perkins in New England as a backup to Tom Brady when Bill O'Brien was the OC there and undoubtedly knows the offense as well as any quarterback in the league short of Tom Brady, himself. It is one of the reason Bill O'Brien likes Brian and it was undoubtedly one of the main attractions the job in Houston held for Brian in the first place.
 
Brownsfan said:
Great win by the Texans. Congratulations to the Texan team and fans.


Was the answer you were looking for Erhardt-Perkins?

The reason I ask is that as I understand it, there are three basic offenses used in the NFL. They are:

1. West Coast Offense.
2. Air Coryell
3. Erhardt-Perkins

Most teams appear to run variations of the West Coast Offense. However, I know that Dallas and Minnesota run variations of the Air Coryell and New England and Houston run the Erhardt-Perkins.

Brian Hoyer cut his teeth on the Erhardt-Perkins in New England as a backup to Tom Brady when Bill O'Brien was the OC there and undoubtedly knows the offense as well as any quarterback in the league short of Tom Brady, himself. It is one of the reason Bill O'Brien likes Brian and it was undoubtedly one of the main attractions the job in Houston held for Brian in the first place.
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Yeah, Cak knows that.

The problem is that this version of Erhardt-Perkins doesn't really have anything to hang its hat on as something it does well. I mean, besides throwing it up and hoping Nuk can come down with it. Or throwing it to Strong against the Colts.

When OB came here, his whole spiel was that each week they'd come up with a totally different gameplan to attack the strengths and weaknesses of the team we're playing. But instead, we seem to play the exact same gameplan against everyone, which is basically run on first down and pass on third down unless it's a third and long, and then we run a draw or a screen to get 1 or 2 yards.

In other words, offense hasn't been our forte.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Yeah, Cak knows that.

The problem is that this version of Erhardt-Perkins doesn't really have anything to hang its hat on as something it does well. I mean, besides throwing it up and hoping Nuk can come down with it. Or throwing it to Strong against the Colts.

When OB came here, his whole spiel was that each week they'd come up with a totally different gameplan to attack the strengths and weaknesses of the team we're playing. But instead, we seem to play the exact same gameplan against everyone, which is basically run on first down and pass on third down unless it's a third and long, and then we run a draw or a screen to get 1 or 2 yards.

In other words, offense hasn't been our forte.
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Okay, I guess my first response is that it is all relative. It depends, I think, on what you are used to and I seem to have a much better opinion of your offense than you do. Maybe you can guess why. Unfortunately for Browns fans worldwide, things do not appear to be changing for the better in Cleveland after the events of last night.

I haven't watch a great deal of Houston Texans football but from what I have seen, Brian appears to be much better in the Houston offense than he was in the modified WCO that Kyle Shanahan ran in 2014 in Cleveland, and I have supposed that the main reason is that he knows the E-P offense in much greater depth than the WCO. In addition, I watched the Indianapolis and Tennessee games and noticed how much better Brandon played in the Houston offense than in the Dallas offense. I ascribed that mainly to the less conservative and more creative play calling by your OC as compared to the plays they had him run in Dallas--never mind that the Air Coryell is supposed to be a downfield passing attack.

And, of course, having receivers who can catch a ball makes a difference too. After all the dropped passes I have seen in Cleveland, watching DeAndre Hopkins make his circus catches is a revelation of sorts. Sorry if I disagree with you about your offense, but I think I am going to have fun watching the Texans beat the Chiefs next Saturday.
 
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Hard to change your offense when you are missing consistency and talent at QB and your RB is injured every year IMO.
 
Brandon420tx said:
I was part of the few that were happy when we took Mercilus, I didn't expect him to take this long to develop though. Also the pick I've been the happiest about in recent draft memory played pretty well today (Strong)
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Heard OBrien praising Strong on radio 610 today saying he lost at least 25 pounds if not more.....he weighed 217 @ combine so either he ballooned on off season or is about 192.
 
badboy said:
Heard OBrien praising Strong on radio 610 today saying he lost at least 25 pounds if not more.....he weighed 217 @ combine so either he ballooned on off season or is about 192.
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This was in the chron last week:

Since reporting in the spring at 231 pounds after being drafted in the third round out of Arizona State, Strong has dieted and exercised his way down to 197 pounds and is noticeably faster in the open field. He nearly blocked a punt against the Colts, too.
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http://blog.chron.com/ultimatetexan...ide-receiver-jaelen-strong-has-bright-future/
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Yeah, Cak knows that.

The problem is that this version of Erhardt-Perkins doesn't really have anything to hang its hat on as something it does well. I mean, besides throwing it up and hoping Nuk can come down with it. Or throwing it to Strong against the Colts.

When OB came here, his whole spiel was that each week they'd come up with a totally different gameplan to attack the strengths and weaknesses of the team we're playing. But instead, we seem to play the exact same gameplan against everyone, which is basically run on first down and pass on third down unless it's a third and long, and then we run a draw or a screen to get 1 or 2 yards.

In other words, offense hasn't been our forte.
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This is so on target.

There is a quote in the Art of War that I'm sure isn't perfectly translated but it goes like this: Know your enemy and know yourself, fight 100 battles without danger. Know yourself but not the other, win one battle for every loss. Not knowing yourself or your enemy, find loss in every battle.

We're supposed to be the first part. That's what NE does. They know who they are, but they adapt themselves each week to be the greatest threat to their opponent's weaknesses. That's what OB said we would be.

What we actually are is the second part. We know who we are. We know what we are good at and what we aren't good at. But we do not know our opponents, and that is why we trot the same exact attack out on the field each week. Any changes that we have made along the way have been in self-evaluation, not in accordance to a specific opponent.
 
bah007 said:
What we actually are is the second part. We know who we are. We know what we are good at and what we aren't good at. But we do not know our opponents, and that is why we trot the same exact attack out on the field each week. Any changes that we have made along the way have been in self-evaluation, not in accordance to a specific opponent.
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Sort of. We honestly don't' have the personnel to effectively attack the opponents at their weakest point in many cases. I think that's why we're seeing the experimentation with wildcat, etc, just to see if something will work.
 
Interesting behind the scenes look at how the Texans game planned for the Jags game.

Best-laid plans: How Texans crafted plays for their season's biggest game

BY GREG A. BEDARD

With 6:52 remaining in the second quarter in Houston on Sunday, the Texans start their huddle at the Jacksonville 33-yard line, facing third-and-one. They hold a 10–3 lead with an AFC South title and the third playoff berth in the franchise’s 14 years on the line. If they’re stopped, the 50-yard field goal attempt would be at the edge of kicker Nick Novak’s range. To the 71,054 fans at NRG Stadium, it’s clear that this will be one of those plays that decide their team’s season.
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http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/06/houston-texans-game-plan-nfl-playoffs
 
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GoCoogs said:
Interesting behind the scenes look at how the Texans game planned for the Jags game.



http://www.si.com/nfl/2016/01/06/houston-texans-game-plan-nfl-playoffs
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Ok... Now I like Bill O'Brien. That's my coach.

“All you’re going to hear this week from the media is that Indianapolis needs 10 teams to lose. ... Get the hell away from that. Like, I don’t even want to hear that,” O’Brien yells. “Everything we do is about winning. The only thing that we need to focus on is the Jacksonville Jaguars. Each and every guy in this room, coaches, players, trainers, equipment guys, everybody… should be doing their role at the highest level because it’s all about winning the division.



“When we were sitting here at 2–5, one of the first things I said to you was, ‘Hey, look, it’s 2–5, it is what it is, but in the end it’s still about the division.’ The key is to remember that. And don’t worry about all these stupid scenarios. That just fills their time on TV. It’s about winning. It’s about winning!”
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