swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
Hey, Vince has just as many wins as your boy this year with 3 less starts....don't call me a tool just because my team is stuck with your reject.....
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The Official 'Carr Sucks' Thread
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Hey, Vince has just as many wins as your boy this year with 3 less starts....don't call me a tool just because my team is stuck with your reject.....
Hulk75
Veteran
Hey look a trap!
Yes I do because I have seen what this guy can do when the T_E_A_M!!!!!! Is rolling. When everything is going, Dre, the running game the run blocking and the Pass blocking, he IS one of the better QBs in football.........
ib4texans
Waterboy
NFL (who probably don't know squat either) has Carr ranked #9 Plummer #29. However Denver is a better TEAM= better record.
Wharton
Rookie
I've often wondered if Hulk is a true Texan fan or just some guy who gets a kick outta messin with people on this message board.
I've come to realize, that he has to be a true Texan fan because he's been doing it for sooooo long. If he was just messin with our heads, it would have gotten old a long time ago.
I'll give you this, Hulk you are passionate! Keep up the faith.
But Carr still sucks, sorry.
ib4texans
Waterboy
Terry Glenn and TO, Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald,Steve Smith and Keyshawn Johnson to name a few.
swtbound07
Jackass of Day!
Terry Glenn and TO, Anquan Boldin and Larry Fitzgerald,Steve Smith and Keyshawn Johnson to name a few.
I would have also taken reggie wayne and marvin harrison.
However, to say that they are not at least top 5 in terms of talent is ridiculous.
The Dream
All Pro
I'm thinking of all the QB's around the NFL and I'm not seeing how you determine that Carr is one of the "better" ones........what is your basis for this opinion.....what do you mean by better ones....top 10??? (hell no)....top 15??? (hell no)
Hulk75
Veteran
Harrison Wayne
Johnson House ma dili
Jevon Walker Rod Smith
theres 3 I will stop there..........But. I do have this......Offensive Rushing Leaders
RNK NAME ATT YDS AVG YPG LNG TD FUM LST
1 Atlanta 337 1894 5.6 189.4 90 6 13 4
2 San Diego 322 1526 4.7 152.6 73 22 9 3
3 Dallas 365 1475 4.0 134.1 33 15 8 4
4 Kansas City 352 1474 4.2 134.0 45 13 15 7
5 Denver 327 1461 4.5 132.8 72 9 10 4
6 Jacksonville 320 1359 4.2 135.9 40 11 9 4
7 San Francisco 279 1332 4.8 133.2 61 7 15 11
8 NY Giants 281 1319 4.7 131.9 46 7 13 5
9 New England 317 1289 4.1 128.9 50 10 14 6
10 Tennessee 295 1278 4.3 127.8 70 9 13 3
11 Philadelphia 253 1230 4.9 123.0 71 8 13 8
12 Washington 280 1221 4.4 122.1 38 8 13 5
13 Pittsburgh 269 1163 4.3 116.3 76 10 13 7
14 Chicago 320 1125 3.5 112.5 29 7 11 8
15 NY Jets 308 1121 3.6 112.1 28 9 8 5
16 Miami 274 1088 4.0 98.9 55 6 13 5
17 Seattle 274 1085 4.0 108.5 37 3 11 7
18 Minnesota 273 1080 4.0 108.0 95 4 17 8
19 Carolina 264 1073 4.1 107.3 43 6 13 8
20 Indianapolis 271 1048 3.9 104.8 21 9 8 6
21 Green Bay 264 1042 3.9 104.2 70 5 13 10
22 Houston 265 1034 3.9 103.4 35 6 19 8
Wali Lundy is terrible.
Owens is nice.
Chester Pitts is above average.
ib4texans
Waterboy
I was trying to be a team player and keep it out of our division. Everyone has to hate that two-headed monster.
dirty steve
Veteran
-AJ's performance today was average at best. those drops were inexcusable.
-does chester pitts play every position on the O-Line?
-not sure i would put daniels in the "high quality" range yet.
-wear that jersey to Reliant and expect to get flamed you freaking bandwagoner. stop calling yourself a Texans fan when you wear gear from one of "your" teams top rivals. if you want to wear #10 UT jerseys, that's fine. but when you go and get gear from the team used to play here and whose owner is one of the most reviled ever to live in Houston and decided to have VY's inaugural news conference in Houston rather than Nashville, DONT EVER jump back on the bandwagon if, and when the Texans become perennially better than the Titans.
carr is not a reject from your team, he is a QB for a team you used to root for. maybe you should find a navy or red shade of jordans so you would have a real team to root for. what a pathetic excuse for a "fan" you are. root for the team, not the player.
JDizzle
I'm a dude
One also has to consider who is throwing those guys the ball.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
Hulk, nice ESPN Insider comeback. (no sarcasm). I still can't believe you think Carr is one of the better QBs in this league. If you indeed know the intracies of football you would know that he has inherent flaws in his game that force us to truncate the playbook down to plays that work for his mental and physical game.
Here is how I would critique Carr
Weaknesses - Low point of release, slow release, poor pocket presence, locks onto his primary receiver, no touch on short passes, cant throw over middle of field due to low release, indecisive when to throw/scramble/throwaway, poor to average game/playbook management, and most importantly has not proven that he can win football games (that is what its all about right?)
Strengths - Toughness, Throwing 3yard passes, nice smile......*crickets chirping*
I would give him Arm Strenght as a strength but due to his lack of touch on the football I would almost consider it more of a weakness than a strength...purely imo though
Hulk, I applaud your Hitler Youth-like devotion to Carr but I personally feel its unwarranted and misguided.
Doug From The Woodlands
Here is how I would critique Carr
Weaknesses - Low point of release, slow release, poor pocket presence, locks onto his primary receiver, no touch on short passes, cant throw over middle of field due to low release, indecisive when to throw/scramble/throwaway, poor to average game/playbook management, and most importantly has not proven that he can win football games (that is what its all about right?)
Strengths - Toughness, Throwing 3yard passes, nice smile......*crickets chirping*
I would give him Arm Strenght as a strength but due to his lack of touch on the football I would almost consider it more of a weakness than a strength...purely imo though
Hulk, I applaud your Hitler Youth-like devotion to Carr but I personally feel its unwarranted and misguided.
Doug From The Woodlands
The Dream
All Pro
don't get your extra small panties in a bunch "man"...listen I root for the texans and consider myself a fan, but I've been watching Vince for as long as I've been a texans fan, and I wanted to see him in a Texans uni, because I cared about both the Texans and Vince......I still need to get my VY jersey, because I am a fan of his.
Wolf
100% Texan
ib4texans
Waterboy
Watch it Hulk, your from California and you don't hate David Carr? Your a Homer, it must be a Californian Conspiracy to take over the Texans.
Peldon
Rookie
I actually agree that Carr can play well if every other aspect of the offense is also playing well, but how often does that happen. I would like to have a quarterback that can rise above the shortcoming of the team. Someone that can take over the game if the running game isn't working or the line isn't blocking well. Instead of going out and getting great players to put around a average quarterback why can't we look for a great quarterback to add to some average players.
Houston_Fanatic
Maximum
Carr sucks. I thought Kubiak had managed to improve him, but today was downright pathetic. He can't make the reads and doesn't make the right decisions.
He needs to be benched again - this time for a whole game.
He needs to be benched again - this time for a whole game.
dirty steve
Veteran
enough with that. i know alot of people wanted VY to come here. but the fact is, he is not here and people don't want to let it go. like i said, wear your #1o UT all you want, but don't let me see you at Reliant 12-10-06. you gonna go get a Adam Dunn just because he is raking, from Houston, and once rumored to be coming here? or what about a Josh Beckett Red Sox jersey? he has done well (World Series MVP) and is from the Houston area?
you put that (Titans) gear on, and you aren't a Texans fan anymore.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
If your not family or friend of VY, and you wear a VY #10 Titans jersey to the Titans game @ Reliant Stadium, you are NOT a true Texans fan. It's not like VY plays for Dallas, Chicago, or St.Louis. He plays for our TRUE RIVAL. He plays for the owner that left our city high and dry (although not all Bud's fault). If you wear a VY jersey you are not a real Texans fan in my eyes. I am a Longhorn and wouldn't think to even wear my UT spurrier-visor to Reliant on VY's first trip to Reliant. I love the guy with part of my heart but he is enemy when its against the Texans.
It sucks we didn't draft him but we got Mario and it's obvious that we needed DL help because it still sucks even with our drafting of Mario. After all, VY is a Longhorn. Everyone knows that the Texans don't draft people from UT. Especially now with an Aggie at the helm.....
Well, great thread and I respect everyone's opinion....just some more than others
GO TEXANS
The Dream
All Pro
I don't know about you guys but I don't feel like the texans have any true "rival", in order to have some sort of rival, you actually have to be good...at least in my book.....I don't like Bud Adams, but I don't have all out hatred for there organization to the point where I won't buy and wear a jersey of one of my favorite players who I watched play from highschool to the pros.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Stats are stats, Indy is two spots ahead of us and way better than us. That doesn't change the fact that we have more than enough talent at WR.
This was a put up or shut up year for Carr, he didn't have to go to the playoffs, hell he didn't even have to have a winning record. All he had to do was prove he had the instinct and could be the answer.......he failed. I'm tired of watching the same crap and reading the same excuses year after year. Carr is a game manager, he's no different than Brad Johnson other than Brad has a ring, hell backups have come in this year and done better.
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
Its time to wake up..........I have
TexanFanInCC
Veteran
the reason why i think carr sucks is because i know for a fact that any QB can go out there and complete 70% of their passes if they are mostly dink passes to the tailback or little 4 yard inside routes by WR's who ought to be running go routes to use their talent the right way. carr is being paid way too much to do something that a high school QB can do. i promise you a high school QB can go out there and do what carr does....as long as they are 4 yd screens. you dont need a star QB to do that.
JDizzle
I'm a dude
Take world-wide poll of Manning Vs. Carr and 99.99% (Ibar being the .01%) say Manning.
wolfscar
Waterboy
You people are ridiculous. I'm not going to argue in favour of Carr, because it's pointless - you'll think whatever you want to think, and he's definitely a long way from perfect - but for all you people preaching your 'If you knew anything about football...' crap, If You Knew Anything About Football you'd take one look at our team and see a patchwork of holes with, yes, a QB at the center. Because that's where he goes. At the center.
If you can honestly look at a game where we throw for over 300 yards, rush for 25 (against the worst rush defense in the league BTW), screw up a punt, miss a field goal, create zero turnovers and get one sack and then come out with the conclusion 'Carr sucks - it's his fault we suck - he's the problem with the Texans and without him our footballling world would be sunshine and fried chicken as far as the eye could see' ... well, then you're just flat out retarded.
If you can honestly look at a game where we throw for over 300 yards, rush for 25 (against the worst rush defense in the league BTW), screw up a punt, miss a field goal, create zero turnovers and get one sack and then come out with the conclusion 'Carr sucks - it's his fault we suck - he's the problem with the Texans and without him our footballling world would be sunshine and fried chicken as far as the eye could see' ... well, then you're just flat out retarded.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
You people are ridiculous. I'm not going to argue in favour of Carr, because it's pointless - you'll think whatever you want to think, and he's definitely a long way from perfect - but for all you people preaching your 'If you knew anything about football...' crap, If You Knew Anything About Football you'd take one look at our team and see a patchwork of holes with, yes, a QB at the center. Because that's where he goes. At the center.
If you can honestly look at a game where we throw for over 300 yards, rush for 25 (against the worst rush defense in the league BTW), screw up a punt, miss a field goal, create zero turnovers and get one sack and then come out with the conclusion 'Carr sucks - it's his fault we suck - he's the problem with the Texans and without him our footballling world would be sunshine and fried chicken as far as the eye could see' ... well, then you're just flat out retarded.
You get positive reputation for your avatar but negative reputation for perpetuating the culture of mediocrity and lame excuses for Carr.
He sucks imho. Period.
I gotta give you positive reputation because
Tim from Holy Grail avatar > More lame Carr excuses
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
You people are ridiculous. I'm not going to argue in favour of Carr, because it's pointless - you'll think whatever you want to think, and he's definitely a long way from perfect - but for all you people preaching your 'If you knew anything about football...' crap, If You Knew Anything About Football you'd take one look at our team and see a patchwork of holes with, yes, a QB at the center. Because that's where he goes. At the center.
If you can honestly look at a game where we throw for over 300 yards, rush for 25 (against the worst rush defense in the league BTW), screw up a punt, miss a field goal, create zero turnovers and get one sack and then come out with the conclusion 'Carr sucks - it's his fault we suck - he's the problem with the Texans and without him our footballling world would be sunshine and fried chicken as far as the eye could see' ... well, then you're just flat out retarded.
Stats are absolutely worthless
How much did the Jets rush for?
Brees set a record in a LOSING record last week
its the quality of throws not the amount
its the quality of completions not the amount
Carr takes the stats the opposing defense allows him to have, he plays right into their game plan week after week. I used to say the same thing about DD, the Texans have constanty played into the defenses hand year after year (except for the two games he play JAX)
Carr is playing for his job from here on out
Specnatz
Hall of Fame
After reading this thread I have come to some very strong conclusions.
#1. Dream has a crush on vy and probably would like to date vy and has his children.
#2. Carr haters are more blind than Carr lovers. They will ignore facts quicker than Kobayashi eats a hotdog.
#3. What Carr haters call Carr lovers are people who want the whole team looked at not just one player. Carr haters are against this because it actually makes sense.
#4. Carr haters blame the play calling on Carr saying he is a mental midget and cannot understand the play book.
#5. Certain people think because Romo is having success, that you can put anyone at QB and they will succeed as long as it is not Carr.
Why is it so hard to look at the whole team and point out things that each player did well and things each player did wrong/bad instead of saying he sucks? Also, why is it no one can point out things that the team did poorly (like the line, Coach, and or receivers) without being labled a Carr defender on everything he does and a Carr blind lover?
Some of you I find truely comical in your post. :brickwall
#1. Dream has a crush on vy and probably would like to date vy and has his children.
#2. Carr haters are more blind than Carr lovers. They will ignore facts quicker than Kobayashi eats a hotdog.
Ignore how the line played, ignore the 4-man rush and everyone else dropping back into coverage. Ignore the 4 sacks allowd by a beat up offensive-line. Ignore the fact the Texans only rushed for 25 yards at a staggering 1.8 clip. Ignore that when the WR did get the ball thrown to them they dropped a lot of them. Ignore that the play calls were designed for short passes.
#3. What Carr haters call Carr lovers are people who want the whole team looked at not just one player. Carr haters are against this because it actually makes sense.
#4. Carr haters blame the play calling on Carr saying he is a mental midget and cannot understand the play book.
#5. Certain people think because Romo is having success, that you can put anyone at QB and they will succeed as long as it is not Carr.
Why is it so hard to look at the whole team and point out things that each player did well and things each player did wrong/bad instead of saying he sucks? Also, why is it no one can point out things that the team did poorly (like the line, Coach, and or receivers) without being labled a Carr defender on everything he does and a Carr blind lover?
Some of you I find truely comical in your post. :brickwall
OzzO
.. and then?
<stands up> Was never the homer (I don't think so anyway) but I cheered for Carr just like all Texans that were here for their stay and for others that are currently here. I've seen some "flashes of potential" that have impressed me over the years and I've seen some bone headed WTF moves, whether they were the play called or the result of what happened at the line, in the secondary, or the thought process of the QB.
So, therefore - I think I reside a fence straddler, which does hurt a bit, but this game gave me a slight nudge to the "dark side" (or good side, depending on which side your on). That was a truly pathetic outing by all phases of the team. Dink passing and a lousy running game - against a 16th rank pass def and 28th ranked run def, or something like that. Seeing the team give up, pretty much after the Jets drive for a TD early in the 2nd half and even more visible with 8 minutes or so left in the game and a lack luster effort.
I dont think QB is the sole position that needs to be corrected, but it is the most visible one. If not QB, then get to work on the secondary, O-line, special teams, and RB. Agree with above, this year is Kubiak's time to evaluate, especially Carr, and see what he can manuver in the offseason based on perfrmance this year. If some players don't wanna step up their resume with a "2nd chance" this year, they'll be asked to seek excellence elsewhere.
Carr is not going anywhere this year.
Not off the team, because if Sage gets hurt - then what?
Not backup because that will not help Carr's trade value (especially with his contract). Being on the field has a better chance of "trade success" than sitting on the sidelines, correct? Also, Kubiak might as well get a full season to really see what he has at QB, with all kind of situations to draw from this year - it's a pretty vital decision to make for the team's future. Yes, he said he can take the Texans to the bowl with Carr, or something like that, but that was based off other coach's game tape, not his own. He can change his mind after this year, just like any human can. If it was a mistake to note that, I'm sure he'll admit it to McNair and the Bob will respect him for that.
Also, Sage will not be the QB of the future (honestly, anyone think so?) so what would that benefit the coaching staff to see what he can do the rest of the year.... unless he just completely succeeds with a favorable team winning percentage - then that may dictate if they go after a veteran QB or stick with Sage next year if they do decide to draft a QB to groom for the future.
So, on the fence I reside - but I now have questions to keep me company and hope the Kubiak and his staff make the correct decision for the future, whatever it may be. Luckily, we continue to have McNair as the owner who has a drive to win it all just like the fans do.
wolfscar
Waterboy
Strangest reply I ever got, but credit to you for posting it. And you are, of course, fully entitled to your opinion. I'm just saying this team sucked hard last year and still has a LONG way to go (with some major injuries besides). Carr's not the biggest problem the Texans have right now and today's game showed SO many holes to be filled. Lack of personnel elsewhere is our biggest issue and I dont think we're going to see what kubiak's offense really looks like till next year - this softly softly playbook nonsense all feels like probing to me.
wicked_wayz
all blacks
After reading this thread I have come to some very strong conclusions.
#1. Dream has a crush on vy and probably would like to date vy and has his children.
#2. Carr haters are more blind than Carr lovers. They will ignore facts quicker than Kobayashi eats a hotdog.
Ignore how the line played, ignore the 4-man rush and everyone else dropping back into coverage. Ignore the 4 sacks allowd by a beat up offensive-line. Ignore the fact the Texans only rushed for 25 yards at a staggering 1.8 clip. Ignore that when the WR did get the ball thrown to them they dropped a lot of them. Ignore that the play calls were designed for short passes.
#3. What Carr haters call Carr lovers are people who want the whole team looked at not just one player. Carr haters are against this because it actually makes sense.
#4. Carr haters blame the play calling on Carr saying he is a mental midget and cannot understand the play book.
#5. Certain people think because Romo is having success, that you can put anyone at QB and they will succeed as long as it is not Carr.
Why is it so hard to look at the whole team and point out things that each player did well and things each player did wrong/bad instead of saying he sucks? Also, why is it no one can point out things that the team did poorly (like the line, Coach, and or receivers) without being labled a Carr defender on everything he does and a Carr blind lover?
Some of you I find truely comical in your post. :brickwall
right on there mate, rep coming your way
Carr Bombed
Hall of Fame
I'm not a Carr hater look at my name
I have followed this team year after year, watched game after game and came to the realization Carr isn't the answer....sometimes the truth hurts, but that doesn't mean you deny the truth.
Sage is not the answer either, its time we find who is.
...but it gives more credibility than some wannabe like you on a message board. A "man crush"? Yeah, sure.
wicked_wayz
all blacks
totally agree with you
if KB thinks carr is the man for the job then thats fine with me
i hav faith in KB
TEXANRED
Texan-American
I absolutely understand why there are so many Carr Haters. I do. I am just as frustrated as the next fan. I have spent the last 75 Sundays watching, rooting, screaming, and in some instances cursing at the TV.
Its easy to blame Carr. He is the guy who touches the ball every single play. He is the leader of the O. He is the face of the franchise. Of course he is going to take the heat. Plus it doesn't help that for the past four years we have been arguing about the same exact thing. Neither the Carr haters or the Carr Supporters will budge and or acknowledge the validity of the views of the other posters. Its more like a see I told you so kinda thing going on.
Once tempers settle and your emotions have subsided you must take a look at the whole picture.
First and for most, we lost DD. I don't think some on this board realize how important that was. DD accounted for 47% of our offensive production last year. He was a solid thousand yard rusher, and not to mention reliable hands and a punishing runner.
Second. We only have one deep threat. AJ. No other receiver on our roster has that ability to stretch the field. Thats why every time we do go long AJ is always double covered. I thought Walters was supposed to be good?
Third. Our O line is learning a new system with new players. Then when it looked like the O line had gotten it, we loose Spencer, and Weigart. Winston has done OK but he is not a dominating RT. I would like to see what he looks like at guard. Pitts just doesn't get down the field, seems like he is always missing the block that would spring the runner. He is a good guard but I don't think he works well in this particular system. Weary has looked good, or at the very least better than McKinney. I like Hodge. In my opinion he should be starting over Flannagen. To me, Flannagen has been a disappointment. Wiegart has probably played his last down as a Texan.
Fourth. Our D. Very Very inconsistent. One week they look like beasts and then there are weeks like this one where they let Pennington carve them up like a Thanksgiving turkey. We need LB's, D line, and Safety's.
Carr has had his problems. You would have to admit that he is having one of his best seasons as a Texan, we have DD in there and I would almost guarantee we have another four wins. Remember he is learning a new system (heck they all are.) and getting coached for the first time ever. This team is starting from scratch. I wouldn't ditch this team just yet. This was a great draft, Ryans, Williams, Spencer, Winston, OD, is enough to make anyone smile.
But that is just my opinion.
Its easy to blame Carr. He is the guy who touches the ball every single play. He is the leader of the O. He is the face of the franchise. Of course he is going to take the heat. Plus it doesn't help that for the past four years we have been arguing about the same exact thing. Neither the Carr haters or the Carr Supporters will budge and or acknowledge the validity of the views of the other posters. Its more like a see I told you so kinda thing going on.
Once tempers settle and your emotions have subsided you must take a look at the whole picture.
First and for most, we lost DD. I don't think some on this board realize how important that was. DD accounted for 47% of our offensive production last year. He was a solid thousand yard rusher, and not to mention reliable hands and a punishing runner.
Second. We only have one deep threat. AJ. No other receiver on our roster has that ability to stretch the field. Thats why every time we do go long AJ is always double covered. I thought Walters was supposed to be good?
Third. Our O line is learning a new system with new players. Then when it looked like the O line had gotten it, we loose Spencer, and Weigart. Winston has done OK but he is not a dominating RT. I would like to see what he looks like at guard. Pitts just doesn't get down the field, seems like he is always missing the block that would spring the runner. He is a good guard but I don't think he works well in this particular system. Weary has looked good, or at the very least better than McKinney. I like Hodge. In my opinion he should be starting over Flannagen. To me, Flannagen has been a disappointment. Wiegart has probably played his last down as a Texan.
Fourth. Our D. Very Very inconsistent. One week they look like beasts and then there are weeks like this one where they let Pennington carve them up like a Thanksgiving turkey. We need LB's, D line, and Safety's.
Carr has had his problems. You would have to admit that he is having one of his best seasons as a Texan, we have DD in there and I would almost guarantee we have another four wins. Remember he is learning a new system (heck they all are.) and getting coached for the first time ever. This team is starting from scratch. I wouldn't ditch this team just yet. This was a great draft, Ryans, Williams, Spencer, Winston, OD, is enough to make anyone smile.
But that is just my opinion.
Second Honeymoon
Hall of Fame
Everything you said has some merit and I personally appreciate the honest response. One day you will have to jump off that fence though...
As for the bit about McNair, I am not quite as sure about that. He has shown he is willing to pay and leverage big money for a franchise (that has already greatly appreciated in value) but what about the actual product on the field like players and coaches? We have consistently struggled to recruit and sign some of the top position coaches and coordinators and we have made many questionable money-related personnel in the past 5 years. There have been MANY cases where players were let go because they were making too much money. Some releases were warranted but some were not and seemed based purely on being cheap. Geez, we arent even anywhere near the top in salary paid out.
Wouldn't it be nice to have Marlon McRee, R.Smith (a healthy one), and Aaron Glenn right about now? Those moves, as well as many others, were purely about money and those were just blatant mistakes the moment the made them....remember when we all thought we would have Dunta, Glenn, and PBuck as our CB Trio...then we let Glenn go and keep PBuck...that was about money...i would rather spend TOO much money on CB than too little....
Everyone just assumes McNair will spend whatever to put a championship product on the field....he talks a good game but I want to see it. He is more worried about image and other non-game related BS. Let's just get some people down here that can play some football and most importantly, have the inane desire to win and compete at the highest level....
ib4texans
Waterboy
I thought this an interesting post from another thread:
Yeah his #1 WR was non other than Bernard Barrian of the Bears,there deep threat man. HMMMMMMM....................
Yeah his #1 WR was non other than Bernard Barrian of the Bears,there deep threat man. HMMMMMMM....................
dat_boy_yec
Rookie
I get tired of the Carr threads being so common today. I got news for those that say Carr sucks. THE WHOLE TEAM IS SUCKING RIGHT NOW! AJ still isn't catching catchable balls so he sucks. No it's not just Carr's passes because in the Tenn. game Sage threw him a ball that bounced off his freaking chest and into Pacman's hands. I'm getting tired of everyone piling on Carr and letting the rest of the team slide. Honey moon talks about accepting mediocrity and how shameful it is. WELL THEN CALL OUT THE REST OF THE TEAM!! You telling me any other punter would miss his punt like Stanley did today?! WTF was that all about?!! What about our running game? We need a new QB yet our RB's who combined for a whopping 15 YARDS TODAY don't get questioned. ALL THESE PROBLEMS ARE ON ONE SIDE OF THE BALL!! YET YOU ALL THINK CARR IS SOMEHOW THE BIGGEST CULPRIT!!
Talk about lack of leadership on Carr's part. What about AJ. Howcome he or any other player on offense isn't making everyone around them better. I'm getting real tired of people claiming to understand the game of football and then give cliche reasons. He doesn't check down my ass everytime he slung it to the dump off he had looked downfield before he dumped it off. Not throwing over the middle what about the shot Moulds took after the catch if that wasn't dead center of the field then I dunno what the hell everybody else is watching. I'm sorry I need to vent I might keep going when I get back.
Talk about lack of leadership on Carr's part. What about AJ. Howcome he or any other player on offense isn't making everyone around them better. I'm getting real tired of people claiming to understand the game of football and then give cliche reasons. He doesn't check down my ass everytime he slung it to the dump off he had looked downfield before he dumped it off. Not throwing over the middle what about the shot Moulds took after the catch if that wasn't dead center of the field then I dunno what the hell everybody else is watching. I'm sorry I need to vent I might keep going when I get back.
OzzO
.. and then?
I think McNair has just been not wanting to make the major mistake and relying on others "more knowledgable" of "how they do it in the nfl". This is a new venture for him and he's learning as he goes. I still think he has the want like the fans do... but like the fans, not 100% sure how to get there, and rely on this new coaching and office staff to provide the way.
As for not being able to get the high priced coaches here (seems like that's how it came across to me) which of these were out there that we didn't get instead of Capers or Kubiak?
... second thought, don't need to answer that. Let's keep our focus on this thread w/o a hijack.
edit - As for dat_boy - the reason people are piling on Carr is because that is the most "visible" position and I think we all know that quite a few changes need to happen, and the position of QB seems to be the one most will have an opinion on... including Kubiak at the end of the year.
Honoring Earl 34
Something Witty !
Hey Vince Young's Titans are now beating the Giants 24-21 . Vince has two td passes and he ran for another ... carry on .
Wolf
100% Texan
wow Reggie bush's N.O. beat atlanta also
d-brick ferguson Jets beat the Texans
Napa Auto Parts
Veteran
dont be so hatefull Wolf the man was just saying we passed up on some winners i think i know we could use some winners hell ill settle for wins
Hulk75
Veteran
Well untill someone proves what I wrote earlier to be wrong I am sticking with it.
