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The Nnamdi Asomugha Thread

They can't be in on everybody, lol. Such nonsense.
Sure they can. Throw a bunch of sh*t against the wall and see what sticks. The Jets have a good team, a lot of success the last few years and Revis. They can call the shots and see if they can get Aso at a discount. How much do you think a championship ring is to Aso? Only 1 team a year gets one.
EDIT: What if the Jets can scare everyone else into thinking they have the inside track and everyone else starts signing the 2nd tier guys (as seems to be happening) to avoid missing the boat all together? This is Texas Hold 'Em. Does Smithiak have the balls not to blink?
 
Jags showing "significant" interest in Chris Carr, but so are the Jets and Ravens.
Aaron Wilson of the Carroll County Times reports the Jacksonville Jaguars are showing 'significant' interest in cornerback Chris Carr, per a league source. The Jets and Ravens are in the mix, too.
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The Ravens just lost Josh Wilson to the Redskins, so they'll be value shopping to fill the hole. Link

Also, more signs that Dallas is out of the Asomugha sweepstakes.
There had been speculation that the Cowboys might make a play for Nnamdi Asomugha, the top free agent on the market and arguably the league's top cornerback. But executive vice president Stephen Jones answered "yes" when asked if he liked his cornerbacks according to Charean Williams of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram.
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They are putting together a pretty stout D in SF. With a Stout D and a run heavy Offense they could grind out and wear down some teams in the NFC. They could be the Ravens of the West Coast.

The Niners could stand to lose Takeo Spikes, Manny Lawson, Aubrayo Franklin, David Baas, Nate Clements and Dashon Goldson. And that's even if they don't sign Aso. Who knows how much green they would still have if they got Nnamdi.
 
Sure they can. Throw a bunch of sh*t against the wall and see what sticks. The Jets have a good team, a lot of success the last few years and Revis. They can call the shots and see if they can get Aso at a discount. How much do you think a championship ring is to Aso? Only 1 team a year gets one.

The Jets are possibly the most over-hyped team in the league. The Texans are better than them at every aspect of the game except the secondary. Yeah I said it.

They got stupid lucky to make the playoffs the last few years.
 
The Jets are possibly the most over-hyped team in the league. The Texans are better than them at every aspect of the game except the secondary. Yeah I said it.

They got stupid lucky to make the playoffs the last few years.
Really?? Got anything to back that up? They've been to the AFC Championship game the last 2 seasons and we've done jack diddley squat but ***** and moan. In the final analysis, only 2 stats matter: wins and losses. Everything else is to make the losers feel better about themselves.
 
The Jets are possibly the most over-hyped team in the league. The Texans are better than them at every aspect of the game except the secondary. Yeah I said it.

They got stupid lucky to make the playoffs the last few years.

Agreed. We aren't that far off from the Jets. If Wade does what he does a lot of teams will NOT want to play the Texans.

Many people seem to forget just how stacked our offense is. The only reason they lost as many games they did because of our safety play being almost non existent when it came to coverage and our CBs playing 15 yards off of WRs PLUS getting burnt deep on a constant basis.
 
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I think Houston has always been the frontrunner, but his agent is trying to let the Jets clear enough room to match Houston...this is why there's no "report" right now. Agent milking as much as he can.

And IF the Jets match, McNair will find a way to up the price. Which puts Jets out of the race. Even more money for both Aso and his agent.

And THAT is the dirty little secret Peter King is referencing when he says "everybody inside the NFL knows Aso to Houston. Worst kept secret in NFL."

Didn't Wilson sign w/ Skins? That likely takes them out of Aso sweepstakes (gonna need a QB too).

Updated rumors said Eagles out as well.

Ike Taylor re-signed w/ Pitt.

Ravens "could" be in it. Cowboys "could" be in it. I think Jets are possibly not even no. 1 nor no. 2 if Modell or Jerry make a run at it.

But the Texans, IMO, are gonna' open the vault. Hopefully.
 
The Niners could stand to lose Takeo Spikes, Manny Lawson, Aubrayo Franklin, David Baas, Nate Clements and Dashon Goldson. And that's even if they don't sign Aso. Who knows how much green they would still have if they got Nnamdi.

Could you imagine if we got that guy too?

Seriously though, when it comes to Asomuagh, if there is anyone who knows what he can do it is Gary Kubiak. He's pretty much faced him every year he's been in the league and Aso does a very decent job of shutting down AJ.
 
The Jets are possibly the most over-hyped team in the league. The Texans are better than them at every aspect of the game except the secondary. Yeah I said it.

They got stupid lucky to make the playoffs the last few years.

I agree with you. I think they are definitely a better defensive unit and Sanchez can make clutch plays. But over the last couple of years they have had lady luck on their side multiple times. Their playoff game against the Steelers made Rex Ryan look stupid at times. But this is the nature of the beast when it comes to anything NY and the media attention they get.
 
Really?? Got anything to back that up? They've been to the AFC Championship game the last 2 seasons and we've done jack diddley squat but ***** and moan. In the final analysis, only 2 stats matter: wins and losses. Everything else is to make the losers feel better about themselves.

Watching the Jets win games is like watching the special ED kid finish first place in the science fair. It's dumbfounding and unexplainable.
 
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I think Houston has always been the frontrunner, but his agent is trying to let the Jets clear enough room to match Houston...this is why there's no "report" right now. Agent milking as much as he can.

And IF the Jets match, McNair will find a way to up the price. Which puts Jets out of the race. Even more money for both Aso and his agent.

And THAT is the dirty little secret Peter King is referencing when he says "everybody inside the NFL knows Aso to Houston. Worst kept secret in NFL."

Didn't Wilson sign w/ Skins? That likely takes them out of Aso sweepstakes (gonna need a QB too).

Updated rumors said Eagles out as well.

Ike Taylor re-signed w/ Pitt.

Ravens "could" be in it. Cowboys "could" be in it. I think Jets are possibly not even no. 1 nor no. 2 if Modell or Jerry make a run at it.

But the Texans, IMO, are gonna' open the vault. Hopefully.

When did Peter King say this?
 
Agreed. We aren't that far off from the Jets. If Wade does what he does a lot of teams will NOT want to play the Texans.

Many people seem to forget just how stacked our offense is. The only reason they lost as many games they did because of our safety play being almost non existent when it came to coverage and our CBs playing 15 yards off of WRs PLUS getting burnt deep on a constant basis.
If we were that stacked on offense, we would've gone 12-4 in '09 and at least 10-6 in '10. We lost a lot of games because we couldn't score in the last few minutes. We have a very good offense, but we ain't no Colts, Saints or Chargers.
 
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And THAT is the dirty little secret Peter King is referencing when he says "everybody inside the NFL knows Aso to Houston. Worst kept secret in NFL."

That was Mike Francesca that said that. Peter King just said that The Texans are gonna go hard for Nnamdi.
 
More reports that the Jets are looking elsewhere, or at least have a backup plan:

espn_afcsouth
Jaguars showing 'significant' interest n Chris Carr, per a league source. Jets, Ravens in the mix, too.
 
True

But the Jets who are over the cap have figured out how to be a player in the Aso. game and reupped Holmes.

The Texans who are under are doing?

Exactly my point.

If the jets can find a way to het him from a money stand point the texans should at least be able to match or beat it.
 
Exactly my point.

If the jets can find a way to het him from a money stand point the texans should at least be able to match or beat it.
I haven't heard any mention at all that the Texans are low balling Aso. I;ve heard the exact opposite. Everyone expects the Texans to make Aso the highest offer, but will he accept it?
 
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
Looks like the Johnathan Joseph decision is going overtime. Not going to happen tonite. Stay tuned
 
I haven't heard any mention at all that the Texans are low balling Aso. I;ve heard the exact opposite. Everyone expects the Texans to make Aso the highest offer, but will he accept it?

Just for clarification I wasn't saying that the jets were lowballing him.

My post is in response to those still saying that we can't afford him.
 
If we were that stacked on offense, we would've gone 12-4 in '09 and at least 10-6 in '10. We lost a lot of games because we couldn't score in the last few minutes. We have a very good offense, but we ain't no Colts, Saints or Chargers.

We lost a lot of games because our offense couldn't save us for every single game.

The Texans are the perfect example. Their Offense is top 5 in the NFL...and their defense is among the worst.

There were times the past two seasons where Matt and Dre were super clutch and helped pull out the W...but asking that from them for pretty much every game because the defense fails to get stops is asking a lot. They will never go 10-6 or anything similar with such a bad defense, because it evens out.

Colts defense makes big plays in clutch moments...ours give them up. Quinn on the hail mary...Jets driving bout 70 yards down the field with 30 seconds left...the Eagles game...

Saints defense gets timely turnovers also

And the Chargers defense is just good.

Point is the defense making big plays makes it much easier for the offense to impose their will. How many times do the Texans put together a great drive only to have the other team just come right back down to score?

Any ways. I just don't see the Texans that far away from being contenders. Especially if Wade is the D.Coordinator he should be.
 
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
The holdup on Joseph is the wait for Nnamdi to set the market price. Everyone is in on all top cbs.
 
Just for clarification I wasn't saying that the jets were lowballing him.

My post is in response to those still saying that we can't afford him.
I understood that. I was referencing the fact that it may not be about money. It may be about post season opportunities.
 
Alright I'm following a thread on Football's Future and a lot of them are saying that they heard that Nnamdi is down to NYJ, SF and HOU. Joseph is down to DET, CIN and HOU.
 
We lost a lot of games because our offense couldn't save us for every single game.

The Texans are the perfect example. Their Offense is top 5 in the NFL...and their defense is among the worst.

There were times the past two seasons where Matt and Dre were super clutch and helped pull out the W...but asking that from them for pretty much every game because the defense fails to get stops is asking a lot. They will never go 10-6 or anything similar with such a bad defense, because it evens out.

Colts defense makes big plays in clutch moments...ours give them up. Quinn on the hail mary...Jets driving bout 70 yards down the field with 30 seconds left...the Eagles game...

Saints defense gets timely turnovers also

And the Chargers defense is just good.

Point is the defense making big plays makes it much easier for the offense to impose their will. How many times do the Texans put together a great drive only to have the other team just come right back down to score?

Any ways. I just don't see the Texans that far away from being contenders. Especially if Wade is the D.Coordinator he should be.
Those are good points. Maybe we can agree that good teams find ways to win. The Texans aren't a good team yet.
 
I'm sorry, but I'm not really up on my twitter lingo. Who's tweeting who in this message?


Some dude is asking NFLDraftInsider who's more likely for us, and NFLDraftInsider says Nnamdi.

I know, Twitter is an ugly thing. So disorganized. Aesthetically horrible.
 
We lost a lot of games because our offense couldn't save us for every single game.

The Texans are the perfect example. Their Offense is top 5 in the NFL...and their defense is among the worst.

There were times the past two seasons where Matt and Dre were super clutch and helped pull out the W...but asking that from them for pretty much every game because the defense fails to get stops is asking a lot. They will never go 10-6 or anything similar with such a bad defense, because it evens out.

Colts defense makes big plays in clutch moments...ours give them up. Quinn on the hail mary...Jets driving bout 70 yards down the field with 30 seconds left...the Eagles game...

Saints defense gets timely turnovers also

And the Chargers defense is just good.

Point is the defense making big plays makes it much easier for the offense to impose their will. How many times do the Texans put together a great drive only to have the other team just come right back down to score?

Any ways. I just don't see the Texans that far away from being contenders. Especially if Wade is the D.Coordinator he should be.

Whenever someone talks about the Jets this is the image that goes through my head:

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If we were that stacked on offense, we would've gone 12-4 in '09 and at least 10-6 in '10. We lost a lot of games because we couldn't score in the last few minutes. We have a very good offense, but we ain't no Colts, Saints or Chargers.

Most of the Texans' offensive problems came in the first half of football games, but at the end of the day they still put up the points to win games and I highly doubt the Colts, Saints, or the Chargers would've fared any better record wise if they fielded the 2nd worst defense in NFL history. Hell the Chargers' STs alone all but derailed their season.

The Texans offense was inconsistent as far as 4 quarters of football goes, but they were still potent at the end of the day and they didn't prevent the Texans' ability to make the playoffs or win games. It's amazing how much more "consistent" a offense can become when the defense throws them a short field or holds a team to < 23 points every now and then or how consistent a offense can become if the STs actually does anything remotely "special". The STs and defense put so much pressure on our offense to perform that it was basically "Be perfect or lose" Long story short.... 2/3rds of the Texans' units didn't do the offense any favors and the fastest way to fix the hiccups within the offense is to improve the other 2 units around it. A half ass decent defense and solid ST play would do that offense a WORLD of favors.
 
Most of the Texans' offensive problems came in the first half of football, but at the end of the day they still put up the points to win games and I highly doubt the Colts, Saints, or the Chargers would've fared any better record wise if they fielded the 2nd worst defense in NFL history. Hell the Chargers' STs alone all but derailed their season.

The Texans offense was inconsistent as far as 4 quarters of football goes, but they were still potent at the end of the day and they didn't prevent the Texans' ability to make the playoffs or win games. It's amazing how much more "consistent" a offense can become when the defense throws them a short field or holds a team to < 23 points every now and then or how consistent a offense can become if the STs actually does anything remotely "special". The STs and defense put so much pressure on our offense to perform that it was basically "Be perfect or lose" Long story short.... 2/3rds of the Texans' units didn't do the offense any favors and the fastest way to fix the hiccups within the offense is to improve the other 2 units around it. A half ass decent defense and solid ST play would do that offense a WORLD of favors.
True enough statements. It still stands as fact that the Colts and Saints went to the SB with horribly ranked D's. I think the Colts were 30th or 31st when they won the SB. I could very well be wrong. The Chargers have been deep into the playoffs with less tha average D play. My main point is that while we have a potent offense, it's not potent enough to overcome defensive problems like we've had. Besides, I don;t much care what other teams have done. I've seen our O lose almost as many games for us as our D has given away. From Rosencopter to 4 downs at the Cards 1 yd line.
 
True enough statements. It still stands as fact that the Colts and Saints went to the SB with horribly ranked D's. I think the Colts were 30th or 31st when they won the SB. I could very well be wrong. The Chargers have been deep into the playoffs with less tha average D play. My main point is that while we have a potent offense, it's not potent enough to overcome defensive problems like we've had. Besides, I don;t much care what other teams have done. I've seen our O lose almost as many games for us as our D has given away. From Rosencopter to 4 downs at the Cards 1 yd line.

30th or 31st in yards but those teams you mentioned always seemed to get turnovers, while the Texans have always been piss poor at both.
 
ClaytonESPN John Clayton
two reasons the 49ers have chance for Nnamdi. One, he loves the Bay area. Second, he'd help the new stadium push

Seems like a weak argument, has nothing to do with the team...
 
Most of the Texans' offensive problems came in the first half of football, but at the end of the day they still put up the points to win games and I highly doubt the Colts, Saints, or the Chargers would've fared any better record wise if they fielded the 2nd worst defense in NFL history. Hell the Chargers' STs alone all but derailed their season.

The Texans offense was inconsistent as far as 4 quarters of football goes, but they were still potent at the end of the day and they didn't prevent the Texans' ability to make the playoffs or win games. It's amazing how much more "consistent" a offense can become when the defense throws them a short field or holds a team to < 23 points every now and then or how consistent a offense can become if the STs actually does anything remotely "special". The STs and defense put so much pressure on our offense to perform that it was basically "Be perfect or lose" Long story short.... 2/3rds of the Texans' units didn't do the offense any favors and the fastest way to fix the hiccups within the offense is to improve the other 2 units around it. A half ass decent defense and solid ST play would do that offense a WORLD of favors.

In order to make comebacks the defense had to have played well at some point.

Offense can erase a first half or errors, defense cannot.

The texans if one of the other units played a bit better throughout the game then they would help the whole team out.

If defense steps up it makes it easier on the offense. The opposite is also true.

When teams get up big it's just human nature to lay off a bit. It's also human nature for the team that's down to loosen up and just play.

The defense and the offense were prone to extremely slow starts. Both units need to Improve if we are going to be superbowl contenders.

This team is a good defense away from makin the playoffs. We are a scary offense that consistently is a threat to score away from being superbowl contenders.

Both units need to step it up a bit. Defense moreso than offense.
 
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