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The Nnamdi Asomugha Thread

Surreal McCoy said:
Careful. Logic like that is, at best, frowned upon here.

PS - Rep'd
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For me it's not about Bob being cheap or whatever....

It's if we don't get Nnamdi, it just continues the path of the Texans somehow, for whatever reason you want to assign, of never seeming to make a splash, a headline grabbing, game changing FA acquisition.

I'm not too upset right now one way or the other. If we do get Nnamdi that FINALLY maybe we can break that cycle and I'll be excited for obvious reasons.

If not, it's back to the Wal-Mart $5 DVD clearance bin of FA's like normal and thus marks the beginning of another year where we wait for next year.

#Reality

It sux sometimes.
 
My belief is that if you hear anything about Joseph before late Thurs/Early Friday it'll be him re-signing with the Bengals, so no news, is good news.
 
Astew10112 said:
Anyone here think we try and trade for a CB if we strike out on Joseph and Aso?

Also, what about safety prospects like Dawn Landry, (previously mentioned) Michael Huff. I think they're decent players, but more importantly massive upgrades to what we currently have.
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I heard he is a Jag now that they couldn't get Weddle.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
I cant imagine 12 million getting it done.
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I can't either. If that's all that they can do financially, then the Texans have a damn good shot. They'd just have to slug it out with the 49ers and there would be no excuse than to go balls to the wall to get this done. If that is all the Jets can possibly afford than the Texans had better be beating his door down and doing everything imaginable, because this is a very realistic signing if the Jets don't have the money work with. I'm still not confident in anything though, because of who are GM/coach and owner are.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
He and his agent are waiting to for Aso to set the level.
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I was thinking this too, but I was looking for someone else to say it out loud.

b0ng said:
My belief is that if you hear anything about Joseph before late Thurs/Early Friday it'll be him re-signing with the Bengals, so no news, is good news.
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I can buy this too.

Hopefully if Aso goes to NY or SF we will quickly hear that Joseph is coming here.
 
DX-TEX said:
I consolation LaConfora said it comes down between the Cowboys and Texans on him.
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Meh signing in my eyes. I think Michael Huff would be waaaaaaaaaaaay better than Sens unless he is trying to get a huge Weddle-ish contract. Goddamn that contract is huge.
 
Texecutioner said:
I can't either. If that's all that they can do financially, then the Texans have a damn good shot. They'd just have to slug it out with the 49ers and there would be no excuse than to go balls to the wall to get this done. If that is all the Jets can possibly afford than the Texans had better be beating his door down and doing everything imaginable, because this is a very realistic signing if the Jets don't have the money work with. I'm still not confident in anything though, because of who are GM/coach and owner are.
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If the numbers the Jets have is 12, then the Texans must offer 15.5 or 16. Then if he goes to NY, its becuase he wanted NY and turned down money.
 
For those wondering about Nnamdi and the Jets, it may be a squeeze to their cap, but the Jets are trying. That deal won't happen fast.

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b0ng said:
My belief is that if you hear anything about Joseph before late Thurs/Early Friday it'll be him re-signing with the Bengals, so no news, is good news.
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My understanding is that the Beagles are one of the teams that NEEDS to spend money just to make the min requirement of the salary cap, so I would expect the Bengals to offer Joseph a pretty big deal by end of this week.
 
BullNation4Life said:
My understanding is that the Beagles are one of the teams that NEEDS to spend money just to make the min requirement of the salary cap, so I would expect the Bengals to offer Joseph a pretty big deal by end of this week.
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You would think so but Mike Brown. . .
 
Doppelganger said:
If the numbers the Jets have is 12, then the Texans must offer 15.5 or 16. Then if he goes to NY, its becuase he wanted NY and turned down money.
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Not just that. That would be because we didn't have a HC/GM combo that had a clue on how to sell this franchise the same way that Rex Ryan has been able to do. I've heard countless players over the years that were big time free agents talk about how they were going to sign here or there, but when they visited a team or talked to a certain coach or GM, that they were sold on their vision for the team and what their role was going to be. It's the same thing when a highly touted HC is looking for a new place to coach when a lot of teams are after their services. It's up to the owner and their current GM to sell that hot commodity of a HC on the future of that franchise with them as a huge important piece to build it with. With players it's the same thing. It's about money of course, but players want to go to a coach that they feel they can get excited for and a team that they feel like will be highly committed to building a SB winner. It's up to the HC/GM to make different players believers in that.

The only player that Gary Kubiak has ever been successful in doing that with and went all out for like that was Matt Schaub when they had their little golf game.

If we can offer 3 or 4 Mill more than the Jets, there is no excuse at all as to why we couldn't sign him. That's a ton of extra money. That would mean we have no idea on how to close a big time deal.
 
If I am Rick Smith, I am also certainly playing up the no state income tax and overall MUCH lower bite on taxes in Texas vs. NY. So you not only have the leverage to beat the deal on pure numbers, but you can also save him a ton more in taxes. A penny saved is a penny earned. Just depends on what is motivating him more. We also have a ton of strip clubs if that helps. :spin:
 
Porky said:
If I am Rick Smith, I am also certainly playing up the no state income tax and overall MUCH lower bite on taxes in Texas vs. NY. So you not only have the leverage to beat the deal on pure numbers, but you can also save him a ton more in taxes. A penny saved is a penny earned. Just depends on what is motivating him more. We also have a ton of strip clubs if that helps. :spin:
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Ask the Astros how that worked with Beltran. :strangle:
 
gary said:
Any news on Cromartie or Grimes?
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Those guys (along with Joseph) probably won't get play until Aso is resolved.

Aso is the top tog.

Same with the safeties and Weddle. With Weddle off the market, now the other safeties can start to filter out. (I was surprised Mikell already agreed to terms. I would have liked to have taken a look at him.)
 
Why would the Jets or any team let out such a small number on Aso? I could see it if the number was huge like the Ainsworht contract to scare off teams but this?
 
The Pencil Neck said:
Those guys (along with Joseph) probably won't get play until Aso is resolved.

Aso is the top tog.

Same with the safeties and Weddle. With Weddle off the market, now the other safeties can start to filter out. (I was surprised Mikell already agreed to terms. I would have liked to have taken a look at him.)
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There are plenty of teams that are not in the "top dog" market and will go straight for one of the guys lower on the totem pole.
 
i hear sf is in the picture for aso but i just read Frank Gore will hold out absent new deal hopefully thats holds them up a bit
 
Ok a couple interesting tweets from Lance Z:

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If the Texans cut Amobio, Orlovsky and Slaton, they will save almost $7 million dollars according to salary figures from Rotoworld.com

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@hlmjohnson They are in my opinion. All teams are quiet when they go after players. Rarely teams announce it publically... lose leverage

3 minutes ago
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Second one was when asked if the Texans were making a legit offer to Aso.
 
Texecutioner said:
Not just that. That would be because we didn't have a HC/GM combo that had a clue on how to sell this franchise the same way that Rex Ryan has been able to do. I've heard countless players over the years that were big time free agents talk about how they were going to sign here or there, but when they visited a team or talked to a certain coach or GM, that they were sold on their vision for the team and what their role was going to be. It's the same thing when a highly touted HC is looking for a new place to coach when a lot of teams are after their services. It's up to the owner and their current GM to sell that hot commodity of a HC on the future of that franchise with them as a huge important piece to build it with. With players it's the same thing. It's about money of course, but players want to go to a coach that they feel they can get excited for and a team that they feel like will be highly committed to building a SB winner. It's up to the HC/GM to make different players believers in that.

The only player that Gary Kubiak has ever been successful in doing that with and went all out for like that was Matt Schaub when they had their little golf game.

If we can offer 3 or 4 Mill more than the Jets, there is no excuse at all as to why we couldn't sign him. That's a ton of extra money. That would mean we have no idea on how to close a big time deal.
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This is all well and good, but if the Texans do not have the money to offer 15-16 mil there is nothing to be done. Everything I have read was Texans were 118 mil against a 120-125mil cap. So who do you cut? where do you free the money to sign Aso? I don't see it happening. I see Aso going to one of those teams that needs to spend alot of money to just get within the salary cap.

If the Jets are going to pursue Aso, they are going to have to cut some significant money. I've read they are already sitting up against 120 mil...

guess we'll have to wit and see
 
BullNation4Life said:
This is all well and good, but if the Texans do not have the money to offer 15-16 mil there is nothing to be done. Everything I have read was Texans were 118 mil against a 120-125mil cap. So who do you cut? where do you free the money to sign Aso? I don't see it happening. I see Aso going to one of those teams that needs to spend alot of money to just get within the salary cap.

If the Jets are going to pursue Aso, they are going to have to cut some significant money. I've read they are already sitting up against 120 mil...

guess we'll have to wit and see
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Have to disagree. Plenty of fat can be cut from this team to make $$ avail.
 
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