Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
After that I don't remember him much either. Maybe he did some things that went unnoticed, but I can't say that it was an impressive game for Clowney at all yesterday.
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After that I don't remember him much either. Maybe he did some things that went unnoticed, but I can't say that it was an impressive game for Clowney at all yesterday.
Scooter
Funky
Clowney was having a hell of a time with the chips and double teams he saw on most pass plays later in the game. He spent more time on the turf than he did engaged with blockers. This is an area he's going to need to improve on, if he can. Again IMO it's his hips. Clowney plays so straight, like he's got a steel rod for a spine, any hit from an angle is likely to knock him over.
Mr teX
Hall of Fame
Yeah but you could see he was gassed too. Late when it was obvious KC was gonna have to pass to get back in the game, RC went to a lot of dime coverage with only a 3-4 man pass rush. Clowney pretty much played every snap in that time frame & KC made sure to chip him & JJ to slow them down. He did struggle quite a bit with this as I remember 1 play in particular he looked like a punch drunk boxer just trying to stay on his feet. Kid was going all out throughout the game..so much so that he was completely gassed late. He's still young though & once he realizes that he needs to pick his spots better throughout the game on when to go hard, he'll be much more prepared physically & mentally for when teams start doing this to him again.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
During the game, I pointed out that Clowney limped off the field (see below). I felt that he had sustained a lower limb injury. Following his return, he showed a definite change in his game.
His moves continued to be blunted, especially so against resistance, with less demonstration of lower limb strength and speed. He was arm tackling in compensation to not being able to definitively get to and" capture" his targets.
Texecutioner
Hall of Fame
Hoptimus Prime
Waterboy
Plz...stop it...stop saying that!
powda
The bridge between stupid and useless is short.
Yup. He plays to high. You can still see all the talent - he just isn't converting enough in pass rush. His presence in run defense is legit though. If he played with more technique it would help.
Seegara
Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
He's just too injury prone and banged up by past injuries to have much future impact.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
He's a linear athlete. He has no bend and that's why he will never be a good pass rusher. He was like this in college,but nfl qbs step in the pocket and tackles will push you past the qb. He's always been a better run defender than pass rusher.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
The downside of a Clowney revolution is that we are getting one step closer to an Insane Clown Posse epidemic, with each productive game.
Lol at people who are still sticking to their negative predraft narrative despite how well Clowney has played so far. He's been a huge part of the reason we have 9 sacks in two games and hes working himself into game shape. Barring injury he's going to be a key player in this teams success.
Bolded is the $64 mil question
Sonny
TexSon Proud
I swear if Texan fans start donning jugalo makeup in regards to being a Clowney fan.. I'll stop going to games out of sheer embarrassment.
But some clowns have style....
http://www.chron.com/sports/texans/article/Three-game-balls-for-Texans-Vikings-9958379.php
*****
The Chronicals reporter John McClain says today was Clowneys best NFL game.
Big Clowney fan here but I'd be the first to admit there's not a large population of those types of games to sample, but JD is making progress and showing some signs of improvement and most important managing to stay on the field ("knock on wood").
PapaL
Loose Screw
In the short time I was watching, Merci and Clowny were the only 2 worth a damn yesterday. I think JD is getting more comfortable out there. Less worried about his injury. Hoping the lights fully turn on for him like they did for Merci last year. Those 2 plus a healthy JJ next year is what we've dreamed of.
Hervoyel
BUENO!
Simon has been steady. I am a Simon fan. Wish he could have reeled that one batted pass in though. It would have maybe made a difference to the momentum.
PapaL
Loose Screw
I'd like to keep Simon at OLB and Clowney bouncing between DE and Edge Rusher. I like what Simon brings but he's terrible at setting the edge; whereas Clowney excels at that.
*speaking in general*
His pass rushing isn't really in question, it just is what it is. Mediocre.
PapaL
Loose Screw
His health...that's the question1 It is what it is; questionable at best.
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Yep,which is what I said of him coming out.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Week 5 Jadeveon Clowney highlights
http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/0ap3000000719770/Week-5-Jadeveon-Clowney-highlights
http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-texans/0ap3000000719770/Week-5-Jadeveon-Clowney-highlights
PapaL
Loose Screw
Random gifs of Clowney vs Vikings:
https://gfycat.com/FarawayInsidiousAfricanwildcat
https://gfycat.com/GracefulPowerlessElver
https://gfycat.com/RelievedThinBangeltiger
https://gfycat.com/VeneratedAngelicFoxterrier
https://gfycat.com/ImpeccableFocusedBeardeddragon
https://gfycat.com/DapperBlindCougar
https://gfycat.com/BothForthrightAntarcticfurseal
https://gfycat.com/DeadDeepAgama
https://gfycat.com/EqualNeighboringElephantseal
https://gfycat.com/FarawayInsidiousAfricanwildcat
https://gfycat.com/GracefulPowerlessElver
https://gfycat.com/RelievedThinBangeltiger
https://gfycat.com/VeneratedAngelicFoxterrier
https://gfycat.com/ImpeccableFocusedBeardeddragon
https://gfycat.com/DapperBlindCougar
https://gfycat.com/BothForthrightAntarcticfurseal
https://gfycat.com/DeadDeepAgama
https://gfycat.com/EqualNeighboringElephantseal
With J.J. Watt Out, Jadeveon Clowney Is Stepping In
HOUSTON — Houston Texans Coach Bill O’Brien was asked about how Jadeveon Clowney had played this week, and for the first time in years, the coach raved about Clowney, the top overall pick in the 2014 draft.
“He played well,” O’Brien said of Sunday’s game. “He was one of our best players on our whole team.”
Clowney has shaken off two years of injuries to become one of Houston’s most consistent players this season, and his transition to defensive end has helped the Texans absorb the loss of J. J. Watt to injury.
Clowney had a career-high four tackles for losses on Sunday to give him eight for the season, which ties his career best and leads the N.F.L. While he is now listed as a defensive end, the Texans have placed him in various spots on the line as well as at linebacker to keep blockers off-balance.
It has been a difficult change for Clowney because playing end in a 4-3 scheme in college is vastly different from playing on the line in the N.F.L. in Romeo Crennel’s 3-4 defense.
At South Carolina, the 6-foot-5, 263-pound Clowney was bigger than almost anyone who was blocking him. But he is a bit undersized to play defensive end in the N.F.L., and when he lines up at tackle he routinely faces offensive linemen who outweigh him by at least 60 pounds. This week he could have to match up with Colts right guard Denzelle Good, who weighs 355 pounds.
O’Brien said that Clowney made up for his lack of weight in other ways.
Clowney has started every game this season, easily the longest streak in his N.F.L. career. He did not play more than four consecutive games in his first two seasons.
“It’s a great feeling to be healthy and feeling good,” Clowney said. “Just getting better and better each week and hope I can sustain it for 16 games and keep going forward and keep getting better.”
Although he is piling up tackles for losses, Clowney has only two sacks this season. He is hoping to add to that total this week when he faces an Indianapolis line that has allowed Andrew Luck to be sacked a league-high 20 times this season.
“You want to get in there and make plays on him and get to him,” Clowney said. “We have to come with a good game plan this week, go out there and rush and try to get to him.”
After Clowney’s first two years in the N.F.L., some had wondered if he would ever have the kind of impact he did during a three-year career at South Carolina, where he had 130 tackles, 24 sacks, 47 tackles for losses and 20 quarterback pressures. This season, he has proved that he is capable of being a disruptive force when he is healthy, and people around the league are noticing.
“He’s a different guy,” Colts Coach Chuck Pagano said. “The guy is playing as good as anybody in the league right now up front. He’s playing with a ton of confidence, a ton of physicality. We know the athleticism. We know the God-given dominant traits that he has as a football player, but his motor is running, and it’s running hot. It never stops.”
Although he does not like to talk about it, fighting through the injuries and hearing all the negativity weighed on Clowney. He is much happier now. In his first two years, he was almost never in the locker room when reporters were present. Now he spends time sitting at his locker chatting and joking with players and reporters.
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Clowney beamed when told about the compliments his coach had paid him this week.
“It’s special, it’s good,” he said. “My teammates noticed. He noticed. I just have to keep playing well. They come out and say, ‘We need you this week,’ every week. I have to keep playing for my teammates and keep trying to make plays for the team.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/sports/football/houston-texans-jadeveon-clowney.html
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Don't look now Texans' fans, JD is starting to get some serious ink again and from the highest sources as demonstrated by todays article in the NYTimes.
HOUSTON — Houston Texans Coach Bill O’Brien was asked about how Jadeveon Clowney had played this week, and for the first time in years, the coach raved about Clowney, the top overall pick in the 2014 draft.
“He played well,” O’Brien said of Sunday’s game. “He was one of our best players on our whole team.”
Clowney has shaken off two years of injuries to become one of Houston’s most consistent players this season, and his transition to defensive end has helped the Texans absorb the loss of J. J. Watt to injury.
Clowney had a career-high four tackles for losses on Sunday to give him eight for the season, which ties his career best and leads the N.F.L. While he is now listed as a defensive end, the Texans have placed him in various spots on the line as well as at linebacker to keep blockers off-balance.
It has been a difficult change for Clowney because playing end in a 4-3 scheme in college is vastly different from playing on the line in the N.F.L. in Romeo Crennel’s 3-4 defense.
At South Carolina, the 6-foot-5, 263-pound Clowney was bigger than almost anyone who was blocking him. But he is a bit undersized to play defensive end in the N.F.L., and when he lines up at tackle he routinely faces offensive linemen who outweigh him by at least 60 pounds. This week he could have to match up with Colts right guard Denzelle Good, who weighs 355 pounds.
O’Brien said that Clowney made up for his lack of weight in other ways.
Clowney has started every game this season, easily the longest streak in his N.F.L. career. He did not play more than four consecutive games in his first two seasons.
“It’s a great feeling to be healthy and feeling good,” Clowney said. “Just getting better and better each week and hope I can sustain it for 16 games and keep going forward and keep getting better.”
Although he is piling up tackles for losses, Clowney has only two sacks this season. He is hoping to add to that total this week when he faces an Indianapolis line that has allowed Andrew Luck to be sacked a league-high 20 times this season.
“You want to get in there and make plays on him and get to him,” Clowney said. “We have to come with a good game plan this week, go out there and rush and try to get to him.”
After Clowney’s first two years in the N.F.L., some had wondered if he would ever have the kind of impact he did during a three-year career at South Carolina, where he had 130 tackles, 24 sacks, 47 tackles for losses and 20 quarterback pressures. This season, he has proved that he is capable of being a disruptive force when he is healthy, and people around the league are noticing.
“He’s a different guy,” Colts Coach Chuck Pagano said. “The guy is playing as good as anybody in the league right now up front. He’s playing with a ton of confidence, a ton of physicality. We know the athleticism. We know the God-given dominant traits that he has as a football player, but his motor is running, and it’s running hot. It never stops.”
Although he does not like to talk about it, fighting through the injuries and hearing all the negativity weighed on Clowney. He is much happier now. In his first two years, he was almost never in the locker room when reporters were present. Now he spends time sitting at his locker chatting and joking with players and reporters.
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Clowney beamed when told about the compliments his coach had paid him this week.
“It’s special, it’s good,” he said. “My teammates noticed. He noticed. I just have to keep playing well. They come out and say, ‘We need you this week,’ every week. I have to keep playing for my teammates and keep trying to make plays for the team.”
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http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/14/sports/football/houston-texans-jadeveon-clowney.html
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Don't look now Texans' fans, JD is starting to get some serious ink again and from the highest sources as demonstrated by todays article in the NYTimes.
PapaL
Loose Screw
Pagano: Clowney 'playing as good as anybody' up front
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ey-playing-as-good-as-anybody-up-front-in-nfl
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap30...ey-playing-as-good-as-anybody-up-front-in-nfl
Good thing Bradford didn't pull that one back on a naked bootleg. While it looks good that Clowney ran the play down from behind, the front side contain was perfect. John Simon benches the TE out of the play to set the edge.
Vince gets mad penetration.
Kj Dillon crashes down on the fullback & fills the hole.
McKinney brushes off an OLman to get to the runner.
& Cushing supervised the whole thing.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Aaron Wilson @AaronWilson_NFL 3h
Texans' Jadeveon Clowney fined $9,115 for facemask penalty against Vikings. Anthony Barr not fined for unsportsmanlike conduct
Texans' Jadeveon Clowney fined $9,115 for facemask penalty against Vikings. Anthony Barr not fined for unsportsmanlike conduct
PapaL
Loose Screw
By your logic LT was a bust too.
LT First 25 games, 7.5 sacks:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylLa00.htm
JD First 22 games, 6.5 sacks:
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/ClowJa00.htm
As much as I think the comparison is silly to begin with, you gotta be real about Taylor's early sack total. He isn't credited with any his rookie year, but that's only because it wasn't an official stat then. He's on film as having gotten 9.5 that year though, no real disputing them other than for technicality sake.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
To be fair, a couple things should be considered when comparing these stats. When LT entered the league, he played on a team whose defense was 2nd worst in the league........he had no one like Watt to deflect attention. Also the league at that time was very much more a run-heavy league as opposed to today's pass-heavy orientation, giving LT much less opportunities to catch the QB with ball in hand and accumulate sacks.
He's doing just as well as Khalil Mack this season. That should count for something.
Scooter
Funky
I have a VERY strong dislike for the idea that we can compare a player with a hall of famer because of early stats. There was a time that posters were saying David Carr would be fine because his stat sheet looked like Troy Aikman's first couple of years. Now, I did actually compare part of Clowney's game to LT as a rookie, because watching preseason games Clowney showed a jump and 5 yard acceleration that was off the charts. Some of that is beginning to come back, best illustrated by the wildcat .Gif where he's a huge man moving faster than a linebacker across the formation to make a play. Don't use the stats for a comparison.
I don't know... it's just a way of showing the best players in this league didn't always start off playing like the best players in this league.
it's often misread as, "player x will be as good as player HOF."
it should be read as, "player x can still be as good as player HOF." implying the guy isn't necessarily a bust after two years.
Scooter
Funky
That logic applies to every player who enters the league.
PapaL
Loose Screw
As it should. Saying a guy taken #1 sucks because he hasn't put up LT numbers is asinine. He's clearly been injured. Anyone with half a brain can see the improvement and see how Clowney has progressed. No one comes into the league as a HoF'er; much less as arguably the best pass rusher in NFL History.
Scooter
Funky
I completely agree with that. I just dislike the use of stats from a hall of famer used to suggest anything about a player early in his career. LT's stats mean absolutely nothing to a comparison with Clowney.
PapaL
Loose Screw
That was to show that even the greats don't set the league on fire from the jump. Took LT a few years to hit double digit sacks. People see the bug hits and expect that every play. Some of us knew it would take some time; especially playing a new position and on a bad wheel. Only time will tell what Clowney will become. He's only in his 3rd season, entering his second season of actual playing time. In the words or Aaron Rogers, Relax.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Unfortunately, due to Clowney's history of injuries, especially in light of his microfracture surgery, time is not likely going to be his friend.
False Start
On # 69
Clowney gas been playing well here lately. However, he has not made many plays that make me say "Daaaaaamn!" that give me the feeling he was was worth the 1/1 pick. Maybe he will start stepping it up, at least I hope so.
TheMatrix31
Hall of Fame
Hopefully Clowney continues to improve but honestly his stupid facemask setting the Vikings up to go 14-0 early and basically killing the game off for us pissed me off so much it's hard for me to care much about what else he did in that game.
Did you see it?
The way you say it... "stupid facemask"... sound all, "I could do better" & sht
...to me it jus looked like one of those things referees decide to call sometimes. Like an inadvertent hand to the face.
Just like his offsides penalty. I don't even think he crossed the line before the snap. Looked like a great jump to me.