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The nail in the coffin.
- Thread starter HeroTime
- Start date
Here we go again another overhyped QB.
What makes Jay so Good?
Cannon for an arm, quick release, good size, great pocket presence.
Where have we heared this before? Oh yeah three years ago with a young man out of California named Kyle Boller.
All you Cutler lovers take a look at this
Cutler vs. Boller
Cutler
6'4
230
4.8 (est 40)
Senior stats: (3073 yards) (21 Tds) (9 ints) (126.1 Rating) (59 %)
Boller
6'3
234
4.78 (timed 40)
Senior stats: (2815 yards) (28 Tds) (10 ints) (126.8 Rating) (54%)
So, who is the real Jay Cutler?
He's just another Kyle Boller.
What makes Jay so Good?
Cannon for an arm, quick release, good size, great pocket presence.
Where have we heared this before? Oh yeah three years ago with a young man out of California named Kyle Boller.
All you Cutler lovers take a look at this
Cutler vs. Boller
Cutler
6'4
230
4.8 (est 40)
Senior stats: (3073 yards) (21 Tds) (9 ints) (126.1 Rating) (59 %)
Boller
6'3
234
4.78 (timed 40)
Senior stats: (2815 yards) (28 Tds) (10 ints) (126.8 Rating) (54%)
So, who is the real Jay Cutler?
He's just another Kyle Boller.
YodAa
Rookie
I agree w/stevvO, hes like Kyle Boller. Hes so inconsistent, and personnally the only good thing I see from him is his arm strenght. I personnally rate my QBs Leinart, Young, Whitehurst, Jacobs, Culter, Croyle, McNeal.
Hopefully the Lions take Jay that way he doesn't have a chance at screwing up another team that isn't screwed up already
Hopefully the Lions take Jay that way he doesn't have a chance at screwing up another team that isn't screwed up already
MorKnolle
All Pro
Cutler is better than Whitehurst, I can see an argument between him and Omar Jacobs as being the 3rd best QB prospect in the draft but I think Cutler will end up going as the 3rd QB in the draft. I think he is more NFL-ready right now than Vince is, but I think his potential is much less and Vince will still go ahead of him in the draft, likely #3 to the Titans, and I still don't see Cutler making it past Detroit or Arizona at #9/10.
Maddict5
Hall of Fame
stevo3883 said:
omfg ye VY lovers are so hypocritical- i was so tempted to do the exact same thing with VY and Kordell Stewart,Akili Smith etc. id like to see what ye thought of that. However i know it just shows ignorance comparing a draft player to a bust BEFORE they've taken a single snap @ pro level so i decided against it. and i will say this alot of credible outlets have said cutler impressed alot of scouts during senior bowl week and has definitely gained crediblity as a top 10 propect and thats before combine and workouts so its possible he could overtake vince
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Boller was a mistake just like Carr and Harrington. I like Cutler alot and do believe he will have a better career than the aformentioned guys. Yes, this falls into my prejudice against West Coast players.
Cutler did not look great in the game, but he showed some amazing zip on the ball.
Cutler did not look great in the game, but he showed some amazing zip on the ball.
cadahnic
Rookie
MorKnolle said:
I totally agree with this statement. Cutler looked solid and I think he is an option as the 3rd QB. Maybe Detroit takes him, but I doubt Arizona does. I think they resign Warner and another aged backup and then take Jacobs in the second after they shore up their O-line in the first. For some reason I think Cutler gets taken by Miami just an off the wall prediction.
Kaiser Toro
Native Mod
Lucky said:
I define West Coast by - born there, raised there and went to college there. Narrows the pool. No I am not fan of Leinart and recognize that Palmer is the exception. Whether or not he has the ability to lead the Bengals to a championship is another question.
BuffSoldier
Veteran
Maddict5 said:
I dont see how you could have done that because no one in college football history has ever passed for 3000 yards and rushed for 1000 yards in a single season. You cant compare that to anyone.
Cutler is so highly toughted because he has a crazy rocket arm. Just like Boller. Remember Boller shooting up the draft boards and seeing him throw the ball from the 50 to the goal posts on one knee?? Maybe thatshow he should play next year, cause that other stuff just aint working.
bigTEXan8
Rookie
I think that Leinart and Cutler are better QBs than VY. Young is by far, the better athlete over both Leinart and Cutler combined. But when all is said and done, I say that Leinart and Cutler will have the better QB stats. VY is a phenomenal athlete, but JM
says he's not going to be a good NFL QB. I think that VY being rated as the 3rd best QB is an accurate statement.
says he's not going to be a good NFL QB. I think that VY being rated as the 3rd best QB is an accurate statement.Texans>Colts
Waterboy
Now scouts r saying that cutler is the best QB in the Draft. If cutler wasn't on Vanderbelt he would b great they have no talent. Switch leinart and him sme of else might have not even heard of leinert.
stevo3883 said:
I don't see how you can make THIS comparison anyway. Being a "Pac-10" fan, Boller put up those numbers against a Conference that couldn't stop WATER from running! OTOH, Cutler put those numbers up against a VERY STOUT Southeast Conference Football schedule!!!!! I don't know about you but comparing apples to apples, Cutler blows Boller away. Let's also remember that he put these numbers up not only against SEC foes, he DID IT with a "Subpar" SEC team". Let's not forget that Ryan Leaf put up those kinda numbers in the Pac-10 as well and we ALL know how that turned out.
bigTEXan8 said:I think that Leinart and Cutler are better QBs than VY. Young is by far, the better athlete over both Leinart and Cutler combined. But when all is said and done, I say that Leinart and Cutler will have the better QB stats. VY is a phenomenal athlete, but JM
With ALL DUE RESPECT to VY.......he's Michael Vick's, Michael Vick! He's a once in a lifetime ATHLETE and can do some SPECTACULAR things. Even things that Michael Vick CAN'T do! That's why I say he's "Michael Vick's, Michael Vick"
run-david-run
All Pro
Oh boy...the SENIOR bowl. Reggie is a junior. I realize your saying that D'Angleo's stock has increased, but the way you phrased it made it sound like he outperformed Reggie, when he wasnt even there. Also, remeber Reggie is a "trancedednt" player (thats BS, but ESPN says it so it must be true), the LA hype machine will not allow Reggie to fall lower then 3, which is fine, as long as he and VY dont go higher then 2.Huge said:
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
Kaiser Toro said:
or the knee.
kastofsna
Hall of Fame
no he doesn't. cutler really isn't anything like boller. boller isn't accurate because he sucks. cutler isn't accurate because his mechanics are sloppy. boller has a cannon for an arm. cutler has a good arm, but it's being overrated. boller played in a very simplified offense at cal for his senior seasons (before that he didn't have a year completing more than 50% of his passes). cutler was an option quarterback for 2 years, then made a transition into becoming more of a passing quarterback, while putting up better numbers than boller with MUCH less talent around him in a more complicated, albeit not pro-style, offense. considering cutler's significant athletic ability over boller as well, they're not much alike at all. you should rely on more than just stats when comparing playersstevo3883 said:
bigTEXan8
Rookie
The Senior Bowl is basically for players who weren't on the big-time TV schedules, or played against other big-name schools. It's a chance for people like D. Williams to show what they have against other top-notch players. Seriously, if it wasn't for the Senior Bowl, all sport tv networks would be talking about the same mind-numbing BS that we discuss all day on these boards, "Who will the Texans take?" It allows people like Kiper Jr. to make a board beyond the 1st round.
Texans_Chick
Utopian Dreamer
Maddict5 said:
LOL. And I woulda thought you WOULDN'T do those college comparison stats between VY and Akili etc because they don't prove your point.
VY was a better college QB than they were.VY is hard to compare to other QBs because I can't think of anyone that has a combination of his size and skill sets.
See e.g.: VY comparisons-A List
I could. They just did not play in the spread offense, so they did not get the rushing yards that VY did. Spread offense made Alex Smith the #1 pick and look how succesful he was in the NFL this year.Texans_Chick said:LOL. And I woulda thought you WOULDN'T do those college comparison stats between VY and Akili etc because they don't prove your point.
VY is hard to compare to other QBs because I can't think of anyone that has a combination of his size and skill sets.
See e.g.: VY comparisons-A List
cadahnic
Rookie
Cutler is the Ben R. type QB guy. He is that 3rd QB to go to a built team that can come in and manage a game and learn and then the next year really come into his own. I look for him to go to Miami, which is a well coached team with a bevy of weapons. He will start early and likely do pretty well in managing the game there.
beerlover
Hall of Fame
Cutler seems to be a little higher rated than Kyle Boller was back in 2003. Kyle was drafted by the Ravens with the 19th overall selection which they aquired from New England for the Ravens #1 in 2004 and a 2nd in 2003. This is where its gets interesting and confusing because this pick was traded to the Houston Texans (who selected Benny Joppru 41st) in exchange for Houston's original #2 pick 36th & selected Eugene Wilson. For Houston's part in swapping 2nds with NE the Texans aquired the 75th pick (Seth Wand). so for Houstons part in the deal Benny Joppru & Seth Wand, New Enland got Eugene Wilson & (Ravens 2004 #1 pick 21st overall) Vince Wilfork. Ravens Kyle Boller.
Kyle has been injured alot & shows the value of having at least two competent QB's, therefore I'm still sticking with the Ravens selecting Cutler with their own 1st pick #13 if he is still on the board.
Kyle has been injured alot & shows the value of having at least two competent QB's, therefore I'm still sticking with the Ravens selecting Cutler with their own 1st pick #13 if he is still on the board.
HoustonFrog
Dallas Frog
YodAa said:
I'm assuming that the Williams post was sarcastic because they said Cutler is better because he had a good week.
Tha_Tinman
Waterboy
HeroTime said:
The answer is YES ...and we never look back ...and under no circumstances ...do we ever bring this up again!