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The I hate Dickie Injustice Thread

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BigBull17 said:
Why would he ever talk to a reporter not named Michael Smith? If I was him, I wouldnt. They killed him from day one, and then tried to give him no credit when he got better. Did Justice really mean he was "on his side" from day one? Really?
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No the article written with a tongue-in-cheek slant twoards irony. Anybody who writes an article about mario saying they were with him since day 1 is a liar or Michael Smith.
 
J-Russ said:
The Cowboys own us, but then so do the Rangers and Mavericks.

How did he get employed as a Houston sports writer? He obviously not a fan of Houston sports team and it showed with that comment. You guys should email the editor and tell him to fire his ass.
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yeah, he is an idi0t.
 
I was at Reliant Stadium. Some people booed Mario and some people cheered.

I wish that was reported accurately. That might have to go up on the blog.
 
Texans_Chick said:
I was at Reliant Stadium. Some people booed Mario and some people cheered.

I wish that was reported accurately. That might have to go up on the blog.
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Some of us were still too numb to cheer or boo after hearing on the radio (the night before) that the Texans were going to select Mario..
 
[Yeah, he's tough to deal with as far as dealing with the media.--Richard]

[He has been tough to deal with. It's not just me either. You can check with others on this and correct me if you find out I'm wrong. He was absolutely great today, though. Funny. Talkative. His personality really came through. If the Texans get really good, he has a chance to be a commercial star if he choses to be. He even joked, ''I told you so.'' Hey, you use a lot of bad words. That's a good way to irritate me, and I know you wouldn't want to do that.--Richard]

Could it be that for the first three years of his career he had individuals like you writing hateful, spiteful, and unprofessional things. Maybe he did not like being called a bust before ever playing a down. He seems very happy to do talk to Jim Rome, but not you, have you thought about that he just does not like you. Now why would anyone not like a condescending person who acts like they know it all and when proven wrong throw insults.

Mario has acted better than most of us would when faced with the opportunity to actually fire back at the amount of unfair criticism and attacks he has. We all know how you react to criticism and when someone proves you wrong, you insult them. Mario has just refused to do interviews, he is taking the high road.

Once again he is proving to be the better man.


My response .. which is what he wants but oh well I only read his **** when listed here.
 
Mario Williams is a quiet guy from a very small town in North Carolina. No matter what his start was with any team, he wasn't likely going to be the best quote ever.

Most of his dealings with the media haven't resulted in good things. His ESPN cover story his rookie year was a joke and the local media were basically rooting for him to fail.

His dealings with the media remind me of another small town NC guy, Julius Peppers. For all the success Peppers has had, he is not a media guy.

To complain that Mario isn't friendly with the media is like complaining that libraries are quiet. He is just a quiet guy who basically has been burnt by most of the people who write about him.
 
Texans_Chick said:
Mario Williams is a quiet guy from a very small town in North Carolina. No matter what his start was with any team, he wasn't likely going to be the best quote ever.

Most of his dealings with the media haven't resulted in good things. His ESPN cover story his rookie year was a joke and the local media were basically rooting for him to fail.

His dealings with the media remind me of another small town NC guy, Julius Peppers. For all the success Peppers has had, he is not a media guy.

To complain that Mario isn't friendly with the media is like complaining that libraries are quiet. He is just a quiet guy who basically has been burnt by most of the people who write about him.
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TC, you probably have the most personal experience with RJ of anyone on the mb. Is he really as conceited as he comes off in his columns?

I can't imagine why he is surprised that sports figures in Houston don't want to talk to him. He has thrown the majority of them under the bus.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
TC, you probably have the most personal experience with RJ of anyone on the mb. Is he really as conceited as he comes off in his columns?

I can't imagine why he is surprised that sports figures in Houston don't want to talk to him. He has thrown the majority of them under the bus.
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I think Steph had a PPO filed against Dickie for his insistent stalking of her.
 
b0ng said:
No the article written with a tongue-in-cheek slant twoards irony. Anybody who writes an article about mario saying they were with him since day 1 is a liar or Michael Smith.
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He seems like an ass hat who would claim to have loved the pick from day one. Ala John McClain
 
Too many people make the mistake of taking Justice seriously. He is a joke of a muckraking sports journalist and he knows it. He is less concerned with being consistent or correct than he is with being an infotainer for the Chronicle's website, with an eye on an ESPN TV gig.

Many of the comments in his blog are hilarious because the commenters can't pick up on the dripping sarcasm. Justice is making fun of himself, only to turn the fun on the commenters who don't get it.

He's playing them all.
 
GlassHalfFull said:
TC, you probably have the most personal experience with RJ of anyone on the mb. Is he really as conceited as he comes off in his columns?

I can't imagine why he is surprised that sports figures in Houston don't want to talk to him. He has thrown the majority of them under the bus.
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I do not know him at all nor do I understand him. Generally, I like what he does on the radio better than what he does in his columns. Story telling versus trying to provide analysis. Story telling-good; Analysis-pukeworthy. I think he is a hard worker, but that some of his columns may be the product of doing too much. Few people are good at everything, and often people are asked to do things that are out of their element.

I think he is more in the business of doing entertaining writing and less on providing factual information. He takes so many positions on things he can't keep them straight.

For example, he says in his recent blog post that midway through Mario Williams rookie season, he said he was wrong about the pick. That is not correct. As recent as November of last year, he was saying that Williams was doing a good impression of a 6th round pick. This I know because it was so shockingly stupid for a columnist of a major newspaper to say such a thing, even if they were a total Longhorn homer.

From what I can tell, he can be a charming human being but is also thin skinned and insecure. His analysis is totally defined by how nice people are to him. Media friendly or unfriendly. He lays off guys who are good quotes, even if they are playing like crap, and is more likely to not give a guy a benefit of the doubt if they don't kissy kissy with him. We all have blindspots.

The conceited thing is a schtick. An artifice. That, combined with potstirring, is what he is about. That's one way to do things, I suppose. In an era of page hits, there's a lot to be said for that.

I never wanted to get sideways with RJ. There's all sorts of people I disagree with about things, but I don't want things to get disagreeable. I'm just someone who is looking for factual information and analysis that makes sense about my favorite team.
 
Texans_Chick said:
I do not know him at all nor do I understand him. Generally, I like what he does on the radio better than what he does in his columns. Story telling versus trying to provide analysis. Story telling-good; Analysis-pukeworthy. I think he is a hard worker, but that some of his columns may be the product of doing too much. Few people are good at everything, and often people are asked to do things that are out of their element.

I think he is more in the business of doing entertaining writing and less on providing factual information. He takes so many positions on things he can't keep them straight.

For example, he says in his recent blog post that midway through Mario Williams rookie season, he said he was wrong about the pick. That is not correct. As recent as November of last year, he was saying that Williams was doing a good impression of a 6th round pick. This I know because it was so shockingly stupid for a columnist of a major newspaper to say such a thing, even if they were a total Longhorn homer.

From what I can tell, he can be a charming human being but is also thin skinned and insecure. His analysis is totally defined by how nice people are to him. Media friendly or unfriendly. He lays off guys who are good quotes, even if they are playing like crap, and is more likely to not give a guy a benefit of the doubt if they don't kissy kissy with him. We all have blindspots.

The conceited thing is a schtick. An artifice. That, combined with potstirring, is what he is about. That's one way to do things, I suppose. In an era of page hits, there's a lot to be said for that.

I never wanted to get sideways with RJ. There's all sorts of people I disagree with about things, but I don't want things to get disagreeable. I'm just someone who is looking for factual information and analysis that makes sense about my favorite team.
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Tactfully said. You must think he reads these posts. He might. Who Cares?
 
Honestly if I were Mario, I wouldn't talk to a single Houston reporter. The fact that AJ brings up how badly Mario was treated by the media and the fans speaks volumes.

On another note, I notice Schaub kinda has a me against the world attitude too. I don't think he's oblivious to the fact that fans wanted him kicked to the curb.
 
DocBar said:
Tactfully said. You must think he reads these posts. He might. Who Cares?
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Not likely. But I do know if you write enough words, eventually you will write ones that you regret. He's a human being. Instead of ticking him off, I'd prefer for him to write things that weren't rollercoastery. That things are either totally suck or totally swell. And unless you are writing about a team that can do no wrong or no right, usually that sort of analysis is going to miss the mark.

I would completely not care about what he writes at all except for the fact that the Chronicle is the source where most fans locally and nationally get their news about the Texans. So when he says something completely offbase, it increases misinformation out there.

For example, the other day he wrote something about how Kubiak didn't call plays for the Broncos. And when someone on his blog busted him on that, he semi-backtracked and said that Kubiak didn't act like a traditional coordinator and didn't develop game plans.

That I know is completely and utterly false. It is either a lie or he is totally mistaken. And if he is uncertain of something, he shouldn't act like he is certain.
 
dtran04 said:
Honestly if I were Mario, I wouldn't talk to a single Houston reporter. The fact that AJ brings up how badly Mario was treated by the media and the fans speaks volumes.

On another note, I notice Schaub kinda has a me against the world attitude too. I don't think he's oblivious to the fact that fans wanted him kicked to the curb.
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Some fans wanted him kicked to the curb; at the Miami game when he was booed, it wasn't the whole stadium but probably one third booing, with the usual Houston pile-oners and cattle then booing too. I was flipping off most of the fans around me at that game who started calling for Sage. What a bunch of idiots.

I do agree though that Matt does have a chip on his shoulder, which I think actually has helped his play this year.
 
Specnatz said:
[Yeah, he's tough to deal with as far as dealing with the media.--Richard]

[He has been tough to deal with. It's not just me either. You can check with others on this and correct me if you find out I'm wrong. He was absolutely great today, though. Funny. Talkative. His personality really came through. If the Texans get really good, he has a chance to be a commercial star if he choses to be. He even joked, ''I told you so.'' Hey, you use a lot of bad words. That's a good way to irritate me, and I know you wouldn't want to do that.--Richard]

Could it be that for the first three years of his career he had individuals like you writing hateful, spiteful, and unprofessional things. Maybe he did not like being called a bust before ever playing a down. He seems very happy to do talk to Jim Rome, but not you, have you thought about that he just does not like you. Now why would anyone not like a condescending person who acts like they know it all and when proven wrong throw insults.

Mario has acted better than most of us would when faced with the opportunity to actually fire back at the amount of unfair criticism and attacks he has. We all know how you react to criticism and when someone proves you wrong, you insult them. Mario has just refused to do interviews, he is taking the high road.

Once again he is proving to be the better man.


My response .. which is what he wants but oh well I only read his **** when listed here.
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Thats because ROme manned up and publicly apologized to Mario for being an ***** and thinking it was Bowie/Jordan.
 
http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2008/12/our_texans_on_t.html

Our Texans are on the threshold of greatness

The Texans finish out another successful season Sunday afternoon. I don't know about you, but I'm already looking forward to training camp next July. One thing we can all agree on is that this franchise has turned a corner and is headed toward the playoffs in 2009.

There's still a couple of small holes to fill, but this core group will be taking this city on quite a ride next fall. I don't know about you, but I never doubted they'd get there. At this critical time, the important thing is to remain supportive.

Bob McNair needs to know you're in his corner. So renew those season tickets. Keep the dollars flowing in. If some team wants to steal Coach Kubiak and GM Smith away, McNair must have the resources to keep his management team together.
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a flipping fish
 
I refuse to post on the his thread and I really don't like reading his stuff. (but here I am again). It is all about getting the "hits" on his page

I know it is not right to post the whole thing and if this gets shortened, I understand, but my thinking is that he won't get the hits if I post the whole thing and you can all read it here instead

The Texans could learn a lot from the Astros in terms of public relations and dealing with a crisis.

When the Texans got caught cheating, they hid from the truth. Bob McNair, Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith continue to hide, hoping their problems will go away.

They must think that when they show their faces again, all will be forgotten. Even if they talk to one of their corporate media partners at 610 or Channel 13, it's likely to come up. The Texans are doing nothing to move past the story.

The Astros took a different approach this morning when Miguel Tejada showed up at spring training.

First, right in front of the media, he walked into a meeting with Drayton McLane and Cecil Cooper.

Then McLane met with the media and answered all the questions, including some tough ones.

''This is a tough issue, but you have to work your way through it,'' McLane said. '' If you look back to the entire steroid issue, this is a very controversial and complex issue. It wasn't just one occurrence. It's something that has been in baseball for a period of time. We're trying to bring a conclusion to all of this.''

Cooper then opened his door and spoke of Tejada speaking to the entire team this morning.

Tejada spoke to the media for 4 minutes, 39 seconds. Give him credit for one thing. Instead of denying using steroids or human growth hormone, he declined to discuss it.

''I don't have to talk about that,'' Tejada said. ''I just want to talk about what's going to happen from now on.''

In the dirty world of baseball and performance-enhancing drugs, that statement qualified as a step forward.

The Astros have made mistakes in this thing. Contrary to his previous statements, McLane admitted the Astros had discussed whether Tejada would be in the Mitchell Report before trading for him.

McLane also answered questions about whether it was reasonable to think Tejada gave two checks totaling $6,300 for HGH and then threw both shipments away.

''It's hard to judge what somebody else did,'' McLane said. ''Whether he did or did not, you have to go by what people say to you. The testing to what I know is he has never tested positive. You're trying to make a tough judgment on someone else and what their word is. We just need to work our way through it.''

Cooper spoke of the club wrapping its arms Tejada and creating the best possible work environment.

''You get a chance to get in the clubhouse, get with your teammates, get support from your teammates, staff members,'' Cooper said. ''We have a unique family. I think he'll deal with this the way he has dealt with everything. He's a class person and will handle it first-rate and we'll move beyond this. I'm just happy that he's here. Hopefully, he can get this all done today and be done with it. We're supportive of Miggy, and we love him as a teammate. We're glad to have him here.''

This is Public Relations 101.

''He admitted he made a major mistake,'' McLane said. ''Throughout all of our lives, mistakes are made from time to time. If you look into a person's heart and the type of person he has been before that and the way he has lived his life, his thoughtfulness, his respect for other people and for baseball is among the best I've ever seen.''

This story may not have ended today. But when faced with tough circumstances, the Astros did exactly the right thing. They confronted the issue head on. Are you listening, Texans?
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http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2009/02/the_texans_coul.html
 
Oh dear, the moron is at it again. I'm not sure I've ever seen a 'journalist' with such a grudge against someone, it's past the point of being rediculous. There are so many things wrong with that snippet that I won't even start to address it :)
 
iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack!!!!!!!!!!!

f 'em.
 
I had to bring this back just because I've never seen anybody have more hatred for Richard Justice than this guy

Random Nerdly Facts. A light-year is roughly 5,866,000,000,000 miles. At that speed, it would still take you 100,000 years just to get across our own little galaxy. We are one of at least 200 billion galaxies and the closest one to our own, Andromeda, is about 2.2 million light-years away. Yet, oddly, even if you could explore all of that area, you’d still have a hard time finding a more overrated drop of monkeyjizz than Richard Justice.
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Pretty epic burn. www.atexansblog.com some funny stuff including a photo essay on Richard Justice.
 
TimeKiller said:
I had to bring this back just because I've never seen anybody have more hatred for Richard Justice than this guy



Pretty epic burn. www.atexansblog.com some funny stuff including a photo essay on Richard Justice.
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Which story are you referring to because you link a dozen of them?

I finally found it a few stories down the page.

Here is the link to the story versus the main page that has a bunch of them.

http://www.atexansblog.com/2009/03/12/you-ever-feel-like-youre-neglecting-a-blog/

This is one of Matt's random thought pieces where he goes off on just random stuff.
 
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Have any of you checked out Dickie J's latest blog entry and comments to some of the reader responses? Not to revive a redundant thread about a certified douche nozzle, but I recognized some of the names he responded as posters from here (most notably aj, and others, his responses to aj were particularly scathing and childish). He (Justice) did get called out on not knowing about Dunta's offer from the Texans that got turned down. Anyway if you feel like having anymore of a reason to scratch your head as to why Lil' Dickie was given any sort of award, read his responses. You would figure that of all places that would want to enforce the, "if you wouldn't say it in real life, don't post it online", rule it would be a newspaper telling it's employees not to piss off the readers & subscribers.

P.S. - he is still crying about Texans GM Rick Smith (an unhealthy obsession)

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2009/04/well_soon_know.html
 
ESAD2-14 said:
Have any of you checked out Dickie J's latest blog entry and comments to some of the reader responses? Not to revive a redundant thread about a certified douche nozzle, but I recognized some of the names he responded as posters from here (most notably aj, and others, his responses to aj were particularly scathing and childish). He (Justice) did get called out on not knowing about Dunta's offer from the Texans that got turned down. Anyway if you feel like having anymore of a reason to scratch your head as to why Lil' Dickie was given any sort of award, read his responses. You would figure that of all places that would want to enforce the, "if you wouldn't say it in real life, don't post it online", rule it would be a newspaper telling it's employees not to piss off the readers & subscribers.

P.S. - he is still crying about Texans GM Rick Smith (an unhealthy obsession)

http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2009/04/well_soon_know.html
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I think I'm on a spam block or something with him. For one of his previous blog entries, I responded... with something actually not anti-Justice... and the post was immediately rejected with some message about being blocked from posting on his blog or something. I haven't tried to post since then.

The guy is an idjit.
 
I don't know why maybe because it's kinda slow expect for the June, and Buster signings, but I read Richard the Idiots latest pile o'crap.

He stated that the Texans didn't have anyone up to the level of Peyton Manning or Ben Rothlesblunder. Are you freakin kidding me!!!!!! Apparently he hasn't heard a guy named Andre Johnson. Yeh yeh Manning isn't too shabby, but I'll take AJ over Little Ben any day. AJ is arguably the best reciever in the game today, and may prove to be one of the greatest ever. Ben Rothlesblunder isn't even a top 5 QB in the NFL.

OK, I don't know why I expect anything different from Justice, but he needs his Man Card pulled!!!!!!
 
ESAD2-14 said:
Have any of you checked out Dickie J's latest blog entry and comments to some of the reader responses? Not to revive a redundant thread about a certified douche nozzle, but I recognized some of the names he responded as posters from here (most notably aj, and others, his responses to aj were particularly scathing and childish).
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I stopped reading his columns altogether. I occasionally read the blog after it's linked here. I just read his response to aj's comment and was floored. If you're not going to treat your readers' responses with a modicum of respect, why bother to comment on them at all?

Now, I'll include Justice's blog on my "Don't bother" list along with his worthless columns.
 
Lucky said:
I stopped reading his columns altogether. I occasionally read the blog after it's linked here. I just read his response to aj's comment and was floored. If you're not going to treat your readers' responses with a modicum of respect, why bother to comment on them at all?

Now, I'll include Justice's blog on my "Don't bother" list along with his worthless columns.
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I doubt it gets posted but I shot back with this:

Wow, you really live up to your first name. You do know who that aj fellow you blasted for living in his mom's basement is right? Also, this is Houston, we don't have basements. But why would I expect you to know that when it appears you know nothing else that you speak of either. There are reasons why there is an entire thread over on some Texans MB dedicated to disliking you. I will give you this, your baseball stuff is spot on and enjoy that portion of your job. But maybe you should stop writing about anything football and let us professionals do that for you. Sometimes you make yourself look silly and I am embarrassed for you.
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if job security is doing more than you are getting paid. I imagine (or hope) justice is on intern pay... geeze, I have read a few things by him, but if this is the best the chronicle can offer, I can't imagine anyone buying the paper for the sports columns... hell Kerrville paper has better writing than this.... Is it safe for me to compare Justice to AIG....too big to fail (in the eyes of the chronicle?)
 
With the availablity of so much information to the fans, the sports writers find themselves in a weird situation. You have writers who only cover games and disperse facts are fine, but most "columnists" don't take advantage of their situation.

They have access to the coaches, owners, players, etc. and see every game. Yet writers like Justice seem to want to write nonsense. Today he might write that Kubiak is an *****, next day he will write he is a genius. He has the axe to grind with Cecil Cooper, yet will write how the Astros clubhouse is in great shape. His columns are generally fluff pieces that are dictated by which way the winds are blowing at the time.

I will not discount the history the Justice has lived through. I won't discount that he actually does have knowledge, but I do feel that his ego writes his columns, not his brain. He wants his ego stroked so whatever he writes whatever he thinks the masses will agree with at the time.
 
Richard Justice has a thread on TexansTalk.com that's 15 pages long and is all about him.

He won.
 
I am going to cut and paste some of the comments here because in the past he has selectively altered and/or deleted what he has written:

It seems like you are trying to start controversy where there is none.

[You are over-estimating my power. The Texans don't care what I write. They simply don't care. The players may care. I know the players look at the local media in two categories: (a) those that suck up to management and (b) those that don't give a damn whether Bob McNair and Rick Smith like them. Two prominent players are skipping the off-season program. That's worth commenting on. Team-building begins at this time of the year. Not only that, if players see two of the team's best players treated badly, they'll know what's in store for them. This seems to be an unnecessary fight.--Richard]
Posted by: Patrick at April 2, 2009 07:39 PM
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Richard, I think you should respond to Marc's comment.
You're an excellent writer, but your blog posts are too often reaching in order to be something more provocative. There's ample substantive sports stories to discuss. Stick to that.

[What did Rick Smith do to Dunta Robinson? He lied to him for one thing. Franchising a player limits his ability to negotiate. Players have very few chances at free agency. Beyond that, players have to feel good about the negotiating process.--Richard]
Posted by: Frank at April 2, 2009 08:13 PM
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"When a player signs a deal, he's guaranteed only the signing bonus."
Not true. Eric Winston's base salary of $2 million in '09 is fully guaranteed (one example of many).
NFL teams (for a good while) have been using guaranteed base at the front end of contracts to supplement the 'total guaranteed' value of the contract.

Posted by: aj at April 3, 2009 06:31 AM
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I agree with Rich but I must remind everyone Mr. McNair is full aware of what was offered and what should be offered and Rick Smith is merely an extension of the man he works for, true enough he might advise the Boss on what to do but I assure it is within the scope of the onwer's desire to maintain a certain profit margin and if they can get by for now do it. They are not too concern about what type of team they place on the field as long as the Propaganda parade continues to give the fans the look of progress and giving hope to the future which will in turn put butts in the seats in which the price of just went up, it's all mapped out and planned and the envelope will be pushed to the very last second before thwy are forced to do something. Why on earth did they stick with that first group of pretenders that started up the team. With a tight fisted onwer you have to at least get the best coach possible who can make marginal players look good.
Posted by: The Source at April 3, 2009 08:52 AM
[What did Rick Smith do to Dunta Robinson? He lied to him for one thing. Franchising a player limits his ability to negotiate. Players have very few chances at free agency. Beyond that, players have to feel good about the negotiating process.--Richard]
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Uh, enlighten me, is voluntary some kind of Orwellian NFL doublespeak for mandatory? Since when is missing something that's voluntary a big deal? It's not like Ryans and Robinson have to prove anything to make the team. They're set. They have their contracts. I'd take a few weeks off, too. Air conditioned bubble or not, those team building two-a-days coming up in humid Houston August heat are going to be brutal.
As far as the money, DeMeco and Daunte could buy an F-16 fighter jet (14.6 mil a pop for the F-16A/B variants) with enough left over for airfuel and fuzzy dice, but short of boycotting the NFL entirely, what I, you and Richard Justice think and do about the system is irrelevent.

[Well, the Texans do have a new defensive coordinator, and there is that whole we're-a-team deal. I think you should write Gary Kubiak and ask if he thinks it's important for his players to be there. I'm guessing you won't find one person with the Texans that doesn't think these things are important. If I had to guess, I'd guess Dunta Robinson will be traded. I don't know if even Rick Smith has the guts to trade DeMeco. No matter what happens, Bob McNair will stand by with a blank look on his face.--Richard]
Posted by: Joe C. at April 3, 2009 10:32 AM
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It seems to me that if Dunta decided to turn down 23 million dollars guaranteed, then he is not interested in staying in a Texan uniform. If he doesn't want to play here, then trade him. I'm not sure what the problem with DeMeco is but I think they should bend over backwards to get him signed, along with Owen Daniels.

[Where is this report that Dunta turned down $23 million coming from?--Richard]
Posted by: rb60 at April 3, 2009 02:20 PM
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More on next post.....
 
Ask McClain. He is not the only one who has reported it.

[I don't believe that was ever reported.--Richard]
Posted by: rb60 at April 3, 2009 03:35 PM
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I do wish you'd ask the question everyone here seems to be asking you...With $23 mil guaranteed(top five $) being rejected by a CB coming off major injury on an 8-8 team...how much is your next offer and is Dunta worth it?

[I've been promised the details of the offer. I'll have them sometime next week. I'm not going to guess or trust the reporting of others. Chris Gamble's $53-million deal is the benchmark. I don't believe Dunta would turn that deal down.--Richard]
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Geez... we've all known Dunta got offered $23 Million guaranteed since February 20th when John McClain reported it on Sports Radio 610.
You mean you wrote this whole thing having no idea that he got offered Chris Gamble money? You really need to start sucking up to Rick Smith!

[He wasn't offered Chris Gamble money, and I don't believe John has reported he was offered Chris Gamble money. I don't think the Texans have ever said he was offered Chris Gamble money.--Richard]
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"Although neither side will discuss specifics of the offer, it is known the Texans were willing to pay Robinson like Carolina cornerback Chris Gamble." ... John McClain, Feb. 20
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/6273910.html
McClain went further on the radio and said that the offer exceeded Gamble's (in guaranteed money). I'm sure I wasn't the only one that heard it.
p.s., Don't get fixated on total value. This isn't baseball. Report the guaranteed money and the years.

[The devil is in the details, my friend. I've been around NFL negotiations long enough to know there's a front side and a back side to the contracts. One side can spin an offer to be worth one amount, the other side another amount. I don't trust anyone's reporting except my own on this. In Washington, Charley Casserly twice leaked me numbers that were lies. When I printed different numbers in the newspaper, he never objected. I don't believe Dunta Robinson would have turned down Chris Gamble's contract, but I'm telling you I don't have the numbers nailed down. I'm not going to guess or say I've got numbers in the neighborhood. At some point, I'll get the numbers and give them to you. It'll be interesting to see how it plays out. All I'm certain of is that Rick Smith hasn't handled this deal well. He told the player one thing and then did another.--Richard]
Posted by: aj at April 3, 2009 07:37 PM
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Stick to baseball Richard your football comments are not insightful or informative. Do you think Rick Smith would help you change a flat tire if he saw you stuck on the side of I-10 halfway between Houston and San Antonio? Unless your with triple A I think you would be stranded for a while.

[And why is that important? Is that what you think my job is? You think I'm supposed to suck up to the GM? Get a clue, son.--Richard]Posted by: Brent at April 4, 2009 08:09 AM
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Gee, I didn't realize we were friends...I don't even know you. Along with others, I was just letting you in on what your co-worker had previously reported about Dunta's offer.

[We're not friends. People like me don't befriend people like you. You have a column, right? You're a professional journalist, right? I'm more interested in what your reporting has come up with. Oh that's right, you haven't done any reporting. You steal from others and presume it's correct. Let me give you a basic journalism lesson, junior. Get out of your mother's basement and do some work of your own. If the only source you've got is someone else's work, then you should try another line of work. You people.--Richard]
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I think you need to take a page out of John McClain's book. He isn't always nice, he isn't even always friendly in his blogs, but he's never been actively hostile to people like this. I wish the Chronicle had higher standards, and you should be ashamed of yourself for not having them, either.

[Be sure to sign up to follow me on Twitter. You'll like me better there. That's where my real personality comes out. I'm really a nice guy. I can't believe you wouldn't like my football stuff. I believe the building of a good team begins in three areas: O-line, D-line and QB. You don't believe in that? I'm sorry, but you sound a little peculiar. Anyway, I'm sorry for my offensive and inappropriate language. If a young man is forced to sit in his mother's basement and surf the Net all day, it's probably because he's unemployed, and unemployment is no laughing matter. I should be ashamed of myself. Hey, what's the deal with announcing you're Mormon? Just between us, that's a little too much information. While we're breaking things down, the Astros have 14 white folks, 7 Latinos, 3 African Americans and 1 Japanese on their 25-man roster. I know some of you keep up with that stuff. You're the ones that write in whenever I write about race to say you're color blind, but why aren't there more white boys in the NBA? You're the same ones that fought integration, not because you're racist, but because you thought it was a states-right issue. I was raised a Presbyterian, but it's too hard to spell. I'm sure Mormonism is a nice religion and all, but I'm just not curious about your beliefs, that is, unless you think a baseball team can have too much pitching or Rick Smith is competent. At that point, you're in my wheel house, and I won't be nice to you, either.--Richard]
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Hey mr jerkstice, do us a favor and get on disability because you are NOT able to do
your job, you only post negative things
about the team in your city. you wont
have much to grip about this year, so thats good

[I hear your mother calling. She wants you to turn that computer off and go outside and get some sunlight. She says you haven't left the baseman in four days. Now put some pants on and go take the trash out for mama. And don't think posting one comment on this blog is going to fool anyone. We know where you've been spending most of your time. You ain't reading the New Yorker.--Richard]
Posted by: D Frank at April 4, 2009 01:09 PM
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No, actually I'm not a professional journalist. I don't have a credential and can't get one. I do what I do in my spare time because of the lousy local coverage we get for the Texans. To use a Paul Kuharsyism, I cover the coverage, which at times (like this) is brutal at best.
So let's sum up here. First you said the only guaranteed money in the NFL is signing bonus, which is not correct. Then you said no one had reported that Dunta had received Gamble money - which was wrong. Now you throw jr. high girl-like hissy fits and insults my way for some reason.... yep, Houston sure is lucky to have 'journalists' like you.

[The signing bonus is the only guaranteed money. Now the first-year salary and sometimes second-year salary can be represented as guaranteed money because of the salary cap hit, but it's not written into the contract as guarantee money. So you're wrong about that. Second, no one has reported the Texans' offer to Dunta Robinson. I've seen ''in the neighborhood of,'' but that doesn't tell you what the offer is. NFL contracts are complicated documents. The publicly reported figure frequently isn't accurate. I know agents that love leaking numbers to reporters when the actual value is far different. They're not lying exactly. They're spinning. Third, you represent yourself as a journalist, but you don't actually do any work other than read what others have and comment on it. Pretty good gig.--Richard]
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If this becomes a "... contest" between Rick Smith and Demeco and Dunta, McNair needs to step in...and then show Smith the door. We need MORE talented players...not FEWER!

[You're wrong. Bob McNair is a great owner and Rick Smith is a great GM and Gary Kubiak is a great coach and the Texans are a great organization. People put way too much emphasis on winning and losing. The Texans don't have to win to be great. They're great because their fans love them and only troublemakers point out they've been 32nd in almost everything except profits.--Richard]
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Re [RJ said]: "Now the first-year salary and sometimes second-year salary can be represented as guaranteed money because of the salary cap hit, but it's not written into the contract as guarantee money"
fyi, there are two lines on the Player Contract Information Form on the standard NFL player contract that show guaranteed base salary (in writing).
One line shows the amount of the Paragraph 5 salary guaranteed, if any, and another line shows the amount guaranteed, if any, relative to skill, injury or both. Both amounts are specifically written into the contract and are separately accounted from (but included in) the specified yearly cap amount.
I'm not a journalist, and I can't say that particular career path ever crossed my mind. I'm just a fan blogger that's followed the NFL and Houston sports for a long time and I do what I do in my spare time. btw, your flippant and condescending remarks make you look really bad, but none of that bothers me so I'm not sure what you're gaining by any of that. I'm actually quite shocked that you engage readers in such a way.
Looking forward to the information you promised on the Texans offer to Dunta so I can comment on it. Get to work, will ya?

[I spoke to Dunta's agent this morning. I'm sure you know him well in doing your research. Oh wait, you don't do any research. You steal from others and call it research. Nice gig. As for your understanding of a player contract, it's basically 100 percent wrong. There are specific guarantees written into contracts, but those are very unusual except for quarterbacks and some free agents. However, if the signing bonus is large enough, the contract essentially is guaranteed for the first year or so because of the cap hit. All I know for sure is that Dunta is ticked off at how this has been handled and doesn't plan on showing up.There are zero negotiations going on at the moment, and then it comes down to how far does he push it. Would he be williing to miss a game check because he's mad at the GM? A smart GM would be continuing a dialogue, but Rick Smith may not be smart.--Richard]Posted by: aj at April 6, 2009 01:11 PM
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http://blogs.chron.com/sportsjustice/archives/2009/04/well_soon_know.html
 
He is really on a roll, he must be off his meds again.

Thanks, TC, for posting those. I pretty much stay away from his columns for the sake of my blood pressure and I don't want to give him the page hits. But it is interesting to see he is continuing to live up to his name. (Dick Injustice)
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I think I'm on a spam block or something with him. For one of his previous blog entries, I responded... with something actually not anti-Justice... and the post was immediately rejected with some message about being blocked from posting on his blog or something. I haven't tried to post since then.

The guy is an idjit.
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In the Chronicle blog system, I've been told I am to publish everything as is unless it contains vulgar language. Most people are cool but once in a while, some person will be disgusting. On those rare occasions, I contact the online editor to ban an IP address. It bans that address from commenting on any Chron blog.

I know of no other writer for the Chronicle who puts bans on people for non-vulgar posts. From what I've heard, Justice does it a lot. What his criteria is, I do not know. His blog, his rules, I suppose, though they are different than the rules I received on approving comments.

His bans used to be unofficial. Where he would just not publish posts that made him look bad for whatever reasons. But if you put someone on an IP address ban, the blog author don't even see the comment. It just doesn't get published and the commenter receives that message. So maybe at some time, you wrote something about Dan Riley or whatever that he really really didn't like. Then maybe he put you on IP ban even if you didn't say anything really bad.

BTW, it is worth noting this address:

E-mail your questions and comments, complaints and suggestions to the Chronicle sports staff at

sptletters@chron.com
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Also:

carlton.thompson@chron.com
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Though he controls who comments to his blog, he can't ban contact with everyone. If you have a complaint, if you find his comments unbecoming of a sportswriter for a major newspaper, the appropriate forum are those email contacts. If you want to be heard, be well-mannered, thoughtful and to the point.

People can make a difference one voice at a time if they care to.

:fans:
 
Texans_Chick said:
I am going to cut and paste some of the comments here because in the past he has selectively altered and/or deleted what he has written:

More on next post.....
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Wow, just wow. Before I just thought the guy sucked but now I think he actually ought to get fired. The Chronicle should not countenance that kind of behavior.
 
How to write a Richard Justice blog post:

1.) Half-heartedly throw some "facts" that haven't been researched and are untrue

2.) Make commenters feel as though they should come back and defend their opinions by making childish retorts when somebody calls you out.

3.) Watch page hits roll in from e-rage.

4.) Collect an undeserved paycheck.
 
infantrycak said:
Wow, just wow. Before I just thought the guy sucked but now I think he actually ought to get fired. The Chronicle should not countenance that kind of behavior.
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As expected, he has selectively deleted all of AJ's posts that made RJ look like he didn't know what he was talking about, but left all the insults in the post. It's deja vu! Or maybe deja poo!

Also deleted the part about speaking to Dunta's agent.


[I spoke to Dunta's agent this morning. I'm sure you know him well in doing your research. Oh wait, you don't do any research. You steal from others and call it research. Nice gig. As for your understanding of a player contract, it's basically 100 percent wrong. There are specific guarantees written into contracts, but those are very unusual except for quarterbacks and some free agents. However, if the signing bonus is large enough, the contract essentially is guaranteed for the first year or so because of the cap hit. All I know for sure is that Dunta is ticked off at how this has been handled and doesn't plan on showing up.There are zero negotiations going on at the moment, and then it comes down to how far does he push it. Would he be williing to miss a game check because he's mad at the GM? A smart GM would be continuing a dialogue, but Rick Smith may not be smart.--Richard]Posted by: aj at April 6, 2009 01:11 PM
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Weeehaaaaaa! Freedom of the press! Freedom of expression! Truthtelling! Yes, comrades, newspapers are all about the truth. The truth as only the gatekeepers want to tell it. Pravda for everyone!!!!

He has an opinion about the news and it is journalism. You have an opinion about the news and dare share it, well then you are STEALING.

I for one am not a stealer. I am a Texan. :texflag:
 
infantrycak said:
Wow, just wow. Before I just thought the guy sucked but now I think he actually ought to get fired. The Chronicle should not countenance that kind of behavior.
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Agreed. How can that be acceptable. I read the comments TC posted earlier today and was stunned. Some were beyond childish and were so unprofessional I'm not sure why people would want to be accociated with a sportswriter like that.
 
Dang, that's about the most voluminous series of posts I've ever seen in a single thread by someone. Has somebody got a personal vendetta with Richie ?
 
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