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The All Encompassing FIRE KUBIAK & REPLACEMENT thread

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I personally do not fault McNair for anything at this point. If Kubiak is still here next year, I will start blaming him as part of the problem.
 
You guys really wanna ***** about our coaching staff? The Niners have a so-called disciplinarian as their coach, and they've had 3 TDs AND an interception wiped off b/c of penalties.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
You guys really wanna ***** about our coaching staff? The Niners have a so-called disciplinarian as their coach, and they've had 3 TDs AND an interception wiped off b/c of penalties.
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Just because I don't want you to spit on me doesn't mean it's ok to take a dump on me.

Both would be unacceptable.
 
steelbtexan said:
McNair hired thse people to run this franchise? Right

Therefore he's responsible for the success/failure of this franchise.

And you're right it's my choice to buy or not buy his product.

The end is near for me if things dont change this season. Or major changes in leadership of this franchise aren't made this offseason. Lockout or no lockout.

Even though it wont matter. There will be a thousand fans waiting to buy my PSL's and season tickets.

Unfortunately Uncle BoB is aware this too.
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I hear ya, i guess my thing is i just don't see/think mcnair is chiefly motivated by how much money he's bringing in..dude was a billionaire before all this. I think its at least 45/50 that the guy genuinely cares about this city & its feelings towards football. The fact that it's a cash cow & its making money hand over fist im sure doesn't hurt either though.
 
eriadoc said:
Those Ryan guys seem to know a thing or two about defense, at least.
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They do.

I think they just get football. I think they get how to relate to players, and they get what it takes to develop a winning and dominating culture.

I remember wanting Rex Ryan before he went to the Jets, then seeing how they turned that team around. I can't help but feeling like I know I want Rob Ryan, and before I know it, someone is gonna get him and if its not us I'm gonna regret it. Unfortunately, how I feel about it doesn't matter... only McNair.
 
c10x said:
They do.

I think they just get football. I think they get how to relate to players, and they get what it takes to develop a winning and dominating culture.

I remember wanting Rex Ryan before he went to the Jets, then seeing how they turned that team around. I can't help but feeling like I know I want Rob Ryan, and before I know it, someone is gonna get him and if its not us I'm gonna regret it. Unfortunately, how I feel about it doesn't matter... only McNair.
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Turned them around? Didn't he take a 9-7 team to ... 9-7?
 
Hervoyel said:
TO be perfectly honest investing 700 million dollars into a perpetual money machine doesn't mean that you can't then run said money machine pinching every penny possible. I'm not saying he is or isn't cheap. I'm just saying that I keep seeing his purchase of the Texans thrown out as evidence that he isn't cheap and that doesn't prove a thing.
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Been trying to get that point across forever.

Must spread the rep.
 
JB said:
Turned them around? Didn't he take a 9-7 team to ... 9-7?
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LOL. Seriously, and only got into the playoffs because the Colts and Bengals laid down for them.

Rex Ryan is a pompous, arrogant, blowhard, piece of fat ****. I wouldn't want him to be my coach and teach my players to be chatty, cocky ****s.
 
JB said:
Turned them around? Didn't he take a 9-7 team to ... 9-7?
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TheMatrix31 said:
LOL. Seriously, and only got into the playoffs because the Colts and Bengals laid down for them.

Rex Ryan is a pompous, arrogant, blowhard, piece of fat ****. I wouldn't want him to be my coach and teach my players to be chatty, cocky ****s.
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And what's his record now? Hate on him all you want, but at least his team isn't total ass. Plus, it's not like teams laid down for them in the playoffs. They made it to the AFC Championship Game, something we won't sniff with Kubiak as our HC.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
And what's his record now? Hate on him all you want, but at least his team isn't total ass. Plus, it's not like teams laid down for them in the playoffs. They made it to the AFC Championship Game, something we won't sniff with Kubiak as our HC.
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My thoughts on Rex Ryan have absolutely nothing to do with Kubiak.

They barely beat the Browns, they barely beat the Lions, they got shut out by the Packers, and they barely beat the Broncos. They're not world beaters.

Of course, wins are wins. They're 7-2, and we're not.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
You guys really wanna ***** about our coaching staff? The Niners have a so-called disciplinarian as their coach, and they've had 3 TDs AND an interception wiped off b/c of penalties.
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That's because Singletary is a clown.

I mean, you do KNOW, don't you, that it's possible for a head coach to be too intense or too disconnected. Somewhere in the middle there's a good head coach who knows how to shift--up or down--according to what the situation demands.

Singletary is climbing a huge mountain in overdrive. Kubiak is climbing the same mountain in reverse. Both guys are jackasses who are gonna' burn up the transmission.

I've finally decided that you are related to someone with the Texans. No reasonable, unbiased person would be THIS committed to defending the team's honor.

I predicted, three weeks in advance, that the Chargers game and Jags game would end up being the two games whereby the outcome reveals the future. I was right. Although I didn't see the game, I read the posts: Schaub allegedly cried postgame, lots of goofy Rosencopter moments lost us the game, etc. etc.

I think this season ended today. Three straight losses. But you go ahead and lecture us, bro. Your horse isn't going to win, place, or show. It's grazing the grass near the edge of the track.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
My thoughts on Rex Ryan have absolutely nothing to do with Kubiak.

They barely beat the Browns, they barely beat the Lions, they got shut out by the Packers, and they barely beat the Broncos. They're not world beaters.

Of course, wins are wins. They're 7-2, and we're not.
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Barely winning is awesome.

Know why?

Because it's WINNING.

I want no part of 7-2 if it means we barely beat some of those 7 teams. No, give me 4-5 every day of the week. Barely winning sucks.

Do you see how foolish that sounds?
 
GP said:
That's because Singletary is a clown.

I mean, you do KNOW, don't you, that it's possible for a head coach to be too intense or too disconnected. Somewhere in the middle there's a good head coach who knows how to shift--up or down--according to what the situation demands.

Singletary is climbing a huge mountain in overdrive. Kubiak is climbing the same mountain in reverse. Both guys are jackasses who are gonna' burn up the transmission.

I've finally decided that you are related to someone with the Texans. No reasonable, unbiased person would be THIS committed to defending the team's honor.

I predicted, three weeks in advance, that the Chargers game and Jags game would end up being the two games whereby the outcome reveals the future. I was right. Although I didn't see the game, I read the posts: Schaub allegedly cried postgame, lots of goofy Rosencopter moments lost us the game, etc. etc.

I think this season ended today. Three straight losses. But you go ahead and lecture us, bro. Your horse isn't going to win, place, or show. It's grazing the grass near the edge of the track.
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Agreed on the happy medium. Can't be too crazy one way or the other.

And no, I'm not related to anyone on the team. Wish I was. My financial situation would probably be a lot better.

I thought we'd beat the Chargers and Jaguars, and save for a dropped pass by our best player that turned into an interception and a tipped ball off a hail mary that found the offensive player's arms, it might have happened.

Season is done though, most likely. We can easily go on a tear if we wanted to just as easily as we can lose all the games. Such is the life of a Texans fan.
 
GP said:
Barely winning is awesome.

Know why?

Because it's WINNING.

I want no part of 7-2 if it means we barely beat some of those 7 teams. No, give me 4-5 every day of the week. Barely winning sucks.

Do you see how foolish that sounds?
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You clearly missed the last sentence of my post that this response was made for.
 
TheMatrix31 said:
My thoughts on Rex Ryan have absolutely nothing to do with Kubiak.

They barely beat the Browns, they barely beat the Lions, they got shut out by the Packers, and they barely beat the Broncos. They're not world beaters.

Of course, wins are wins. They're 7-2, and we're not.
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So, none of that other stuff of "barely" beating those teams matter because they are winning. The Texans are losing.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
So, none of that other stuff of "barely" beating those teams matter because they are winning. The Texans are losing.
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Agreed. My point is though, that the Jets are not world-beaters, and are probably the most overrated team in football, so let's not act like Rex Ryan is Christ + 200lb.
 
GP said:
I've finally decided that you are related to someone with the Texans. No reasonable, unbiased person would be THIS committed to defending the team's honor.
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This is the kind of stuff that's not going to be allowed. The reason it's still up is to serve as an example. Post about the subject matter, the weather, your favorite color...but not other posters.
 
Lucky said:
This is the kind of stuff that's not going to be allowed. The reason it's still up is to serve as an example. Post about the subject matter, the weather, your favorite color...but not other posters.
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And if I WAS affiliated with Houston in any official capacity, I wouldn't be living in this crappy city/state! I'd be in Texas, where I've wanted to be for a long, long time.

......annnnnnyway, time to go watch my Suns find a way to lose to my most hated franchise in sports.
 
TexansFight said:
I hope Bob McNair hands the reigns of the team to his son Cal. That guy can't be worse can he? McNair is a cheap mofo and I hope he sees that the fans in this town are pissed off beyond belief so that he can open the warchest he has made off the loyal fans in this town and hire a proven winner like Cowher.
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I vowed to stop spitting sunshine around here (I'll be at HT.com) but it never bothered me that anyone negatively criticized this team. I'm not blind, I see what's going on.

But I personally don't like taking shots at people we don't know. "McNair is cheap" the evidence points to the contrary. & that's fine, if that is your opinion, but why he got to be a moo?

All the things said about TJ, Greenwood, Babin, Buchannon....

I just don't get it, we don't know these people.
 
TexansFight said:
Really he isn't cheap? Name me the big money free agents, proven NFL wining coaches and front office personnel Bob has hired or signed........

The answer is NONE.
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If you have followed the Texans from the beginning, you'd know we spent an enormous amount of money on sone poorly coached FAs, which led to the cap-hell Kubiak inherited.

I don't think we looked good cap wise until 2008.
 
Kubiak is a football Coach and has been around the game for a very long time..the Texans owner however has not. I have to believe that the owner is more of the problem than Kubiak is. I could only wish we had a owner like Jerry Jones or Bud Adams because they don't mind trying things to make their teams better. Jerry gave Pacman Jones, Tank Williams and T.O another chance to help make his team better and he didn't care what anyone thought. It might not have worked out but he tried. Now Bud Adams is giving Randy Moss another "bad Character" guy another chance to help make his team better. It might not work out but at least they tried. Everything from Music selection at Reliant stadium to the way they handled the tailgating "problem" is not done right IMO. I hate the music they play at Reliant....I can ignore the Clay Walker country azz songs because its not all about me but lets be a little more versatile. This team is always going to have bad Karma because the Front office appears to be a little uppity and very conservative. I just really had to take time again and look at the teams that win and the teams that always struggle and the thing that stand out the most is not the coaches but the ownership. I don't know that we will ever have the kind of fun in Reliant stadium that they have in Pittsburgh, NE, or even Dallas.
 
ubecool454 said:
Kubiak is a football Coach and has been around the game for a very long time..the Texans owner however has not. I have to believe that the owner is more of the problem than Kubiak is. I could only wish we had a owner like Jerry Jones or Bud Adams because they don't mind trying things to make their teams better. Jerry gave Pacman Jones, Tank Williams and T.O another chance to help make his team better and he didn't care what anyone thought. It might not have worked out but he tried. Now Bud Adams is giving Randy Moss another "bad Character" guy another chance to help make his team better. It might now work out but at least they tried.
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:kubepalm:

If Jones or Adams was the owner "your coach Kubiak" would've been fired a long time ago..... and WTF has Kubiak ever done as a head coach? I mean seriously....list the things that he's done which make him worth keeping around... I don't understand the "Kubiak is a football Coach and has been around the game for a very long time" argument. HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING.
 
ubecool454 said:
Kubiak is a football Coach and has been around the game for a very long time..the Texans owner however has not. I have to believe that the owner is more of the problem than Kubiak is. I could only wish we had a owner like Jerry Jones or Bud Adams because they don't mind trying things to make their teams better. Jerry gave Pacman Jones, Tank Williams and T.O another chance to help make his team better and he didn't care what anyone thought. It might not have worked out but he tried. Now Bud Adams is giving Randy Moss another "bad Character" guy another chance to help make his team better. It might now work out but at least they tried.
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One of the worst posts in quite some time. Congrats!
 
You guys really think Kubiak hasn't gone to the owner about picking up certain players. He can't just go get any player...they have to be ok-ed buy his boss.
 
houstonhurricane said:
One of the worst posts in quite some time. Congrats!
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Your opinion but it can't be all on the coach....why can't we go out and get better players instead of hoping that guys like jacoby Jones comes around and that Joel Dreessen holds onto it this time and that Okoye will be that badass tackle that we want when he gets old enough? The best thing that could happen to Kubiak is that he gets released and they pay out his contract. Please trade andre johnson too so he can get with a winning team...hate to see him end up like Dan Marino.
 
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I stopped reading your post after you included Bud Adams name of an owner you would want to have.

The guy who left the city of Houston and took the Oilers away!?
How many championships has his organization won over the MANY years!?
Zero.

Bob wants to be a winner and he is trying but he is just a business man that stepped up and brought Houston a team. That does not mean he is going to know how to run an NFL organization but he is not cheap, he is not in it for money, or anything else you want to come up with.
 
Dear God in Heaven . . .

I think I'll choose to just answer the question in the title . .

"Why blame Kubiak for everything?"

Because it makes us feel better. :rolleyes:
 
ubecool454 said:
Your opinion but it can't be all on the coach....why can't we go out and get better players instead of hoping that guys like jacoby Jones comes around and that Joel Dreessen holds onto it this time and that Okoye will be that badass tackle that we want when he gets old enough? The best thing that could happen to Kubiak is that he gets released and they pay out his contract. Please trade andre johnson too so he can get with a winning team...hate to see him end up like Dan Marino.
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Umm, Kubiak is the one whose keeping Okoye out there, and the one who keeps Jacoby and Dreesen around (don't have a problem with Dreesen...he's good depth and a solid player dispite what happened today, don't need to throw the baby out with the bath water and hurt your depth just because a guy had one bad afternoon).

You're right though.....the best thing that could happen is if Kubiak gets released and they pay out his contract and the positives have NOTHING to do with what Stupiak does elsewhere. It'll be a great move, because it'll help THIS TEAM in the long run. I could really care less what Kubiak does elsewhere.
 
Carr Bombed said:
:kubepalm:

If Jones or Adams was the owner "your coach Kubiak" would've been fired a long time ago..... and WTF has Kubiak ever done as a head coach? I mean seriously....list the things that he's done which make him worth keeping around... I don't understand the "Kubiak is a football Coach and has been around the game for a very long time" argument. HE HAS ACCOMPLISHED NOTHING.
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Kubiak if employed by Bud or Jerry might have had freedom to pursue better "bad" character guys...if there is such a thing.
 
Marcus said:
Dear God in Heaven . . .

I think I'll choose to just answer the question in the title . .

"Why blame Kubiak for everything?"

Because it makes us feel better. :rolleyes:
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Or maybe it's because it's his decision making and coaching style which has breed mediocrity and the same old exact tiresome **** year after year. He is not a head coach, not everybody is. There's head coaches out there who win more with less talent.
 
ubecool454 said:
Kubiak if employed by Bud or Jerry might have had freedom to pursue better "bad" character guys...if there is such a thing.
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Highly doubt it. Kubiak doesn't go after those players. I'm actually pretty excited now about the big possibility of a new coach for the Texans. The Kubiak era is almost over.
 
ubecool454 said:
Kubiak if employed by Bud or Jerry might have had freedom to pursue better "bad" character guys...if there is such a thing.
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Yeah, because Kubiak is SOOO into "bad character guys". :rolleyes:

You're talking about a coach who benched the league's leading rusher because he missed a team meeting... The "high character crap" isn't just McNair and it's a complete farce to suggest otherwise.

Before Kubiak, McNair was pulling off trades for "Bad character guys" like P Burnt. Kubiak is just as much at fault as McNair is.
 
imatexan said:
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I stopped reading your post after you included Bud Adams name of an owner you would want to have.

The guy who left the city of Houston and took the Oilers away!?
How many championships has his organization won over the MANY years!?
Zero.

Bob wants to be a winner and he is trying but he is just a business man that stepped up and brought Houston a team. That does not mean he is going to know how to run an NFL organization but he is not cheap, he is not in it for money, or anything else you want to come up with.
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I hated that Bud moved the team too but you have to blame your former Mayor for that too. Bud wanted a stadium and the city wouldn't or couldn't do it so he being a business man found some city that would...business decision so don't take it personal. I can't tell if Bob cares more about his race horses and the rodeo than he does this football team.
 
ubecool454 said:
I hated that Bud moved the team too but you have to blame your former Mayor for that too. Bud wanted a stadium and the city wouldn't or couldn't do it so he being a business man found some city that would...business decision so don't take it personal. I can't tell if Bob cares more about his race horses and the rodeo than he does this football team.
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You need to read up on some more history. It'll tell you the whole story instead of what you just posted.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Highly doubt it. Kubiak doesn't go after those players. I'm actually pretty excited now about the big possibility of a new coach for the Texans. The Kubiak era is almost over.
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Be careful what you wish for. Do you see a pattern developing here? I do...hire mediocre guys to give the fans hope...get rid of them and do it again as long as those seats stay full.
 
GuerillaBlack said:
Highly doubt it. Kubiak doesn't go after those players. I'm actually pretty excited now about the big possibility of a new coach for the Texans. The Kubiak era is almost over.
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You can take you Cowher 2011 banner down..lol.. He isn't coming here when everyone in Carolina knows that he is the next Panthers coach. Thats home for him...fogit about it.
 
ubecool454 said:
You can take you Cowher 2011 banner down..lol.. He isn't coming here when everyone in Carolina knows that he is the next Panthers coach. Thats home for him...fogit about it.
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Why is he the next Panthers coach? That job was enticing to him when his wife was still living (RIP) and his daughters were still living at home. Not to mention the rebuilding process for Carolina. He comes to Houston and we have the talent in place already...we just have a shitty head coach and coordinators. We hire Cowher as the HC and Wade Phillips as the DC. Not sure what OC's are out there that would be good for us.

ubecool454 said:
LOL..19 years old...do you even remember the Oilers..lmao:wadepalm: or are you talking about Cowher?
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Like I said, read up on some history. You fail to mention that Bud got all of the renovations he wanted to the Dome just a few years earlier. He then proceeded to get jealous of other new stadiums and wanted to build his own new one. Why would the City of Houston pay to build a new stadium when they just put in millions towards renovations on the current one (that the city is still paying off I believe). How much sense does that make? Yeah.
 
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