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COLLEGE STATION, Texas (AP)—The winner of Texas and Texas A&M’s annual game usually gets a year of bragging rights in this football-crazy state.

The victor of Thursday night’s showdown will get to boast about this one for a lot longer than that.

It is Texas A&M’s last Big 12 game before the Aggies move to the Southeastern Conference next season. They hoped to continue the rivalry, which began in 1894, but the Longhorns have said their schedule is full through 2018.

The possibility that this could be the last meeting between these rivals has taken this already heated matchup to another level.

Texas coach Mack Brown talked to his players about the shot to go out on top.

“You should enjoy this because this could the last time that Texas ever plays Texas A&M,” Brown said he told them. “If that happens, you’ve got something to talk to your kids about, your grandkids about, you’ll be part of history. I also told them … you’d like for it to be a good memory.”

The Longhorns got Brown’s point loud and clear.

“This game will be remembered. The score will be remembered, just because it is the last one in a long series,” Texas safety Blake Gideon said.

Texas A&M defensive coordinator Tim DeRuyter and coach Mike Sherman conveyed a similar message to the Aggies.

“This game’s never just another game,” DeRuyter said. “The fact that it’s the last one for a long time has coach Sherman and I have (saying): `It’s the one you’re going to remember for years, 15 or 20 years down the road you’ll be talking about it. It’s your chance to affect that.”

http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news?slug=ap-texas-texasam
 
What a game!!!! It's a shame that this series is ending, the state should step in and and make it happen (I know its far-fetched).
 
What a game!!!! It's a shame that this series is ending, the state should step in and and make it happen (I know its far-fetched).

Kidding?? Pretty bad game, IMO. I was game to watch but quit because, well, the game wasn't that good to watch.
 
LOL, I kept telling a buddy of mine that there is no way we are going to miss that field goal because the Aggies are cursed.

You Aggies have the double whammy. I feel your pain on Sundays because I know all about the Houston curse thing, but you guys have it on both sides.

Have fun in the SEC! Hookem!
 
we're bad :(

before this season, I predicted 10-2 with cotton bowl win over south carolina and a sweep of the texas schools. boy, was I wrong.

yikes.
 
Hope the Ags represent well in the SEC.

Have to see it to believe it.

Sherman is one of Garys mentors. His team only plays 2 qtrs. Coincedence?
 
Congrats to my Longhorn friends! The Aggs GAVE ya a going away present!! 17 unanswered points!! :) Truthfully, the Aggies screwed up, and Tennehall SUCKS!! That my friends = a Texas win!!
 
I can't believe some of my Aggie friends. They seem to deify Tannehill as if he's some awesome QB being held back by Sherman, but the fact is he's an average QB who has trouble managing a game while ahead. He's the quintessential Mark Sanchez without the GQ spread. I hope we get a better one in Showers cause we are sorely needing an upgrade. Screw Tannehill, I will break things of the Texans waste a Second on him...
 
I can't believe some of my Aggie friends. They seem to deify Tannehill as if he's some awesome QB being held back by Sherman, but the fact is he's an average QB who has trouble managing a game while ahead. He's the quintessential Mark Sanchez without the GQ spread. I hope we get a better one in Showers cause we are sorely needing an upgrade. Screw Tannehill, I will break things of the Texans waste a Second on him...

No, he isn't
 
No, he isn't

Correct! He's BELOW adverage!!!! I've watched more Aggie football this year than ever before, simply because I'm not into college football that much. BUT, I thought Sherman was about to turn the corner with them, and this would be a respectable year and worth watching. WRONG! The only thing Tannehill has going for him is a cute girlfriend. They sure showed her enough on TV last night!! :scarygirl:
 
I was at the game. Tannehill sucks and Sherman's playcalling is too predictable. The Aggies had no business losing that game. Untimely defensive penalties, some of which were highly questionable calls, that sustained what would have otherwise been unsuccessful Longhorn drives, combined with 1 major special teams error and a lackluster offensive performance that included multiple turnovers in great field position ruined what quite possibly would have been a 28+ point differential shutout.
 
....and for the record. Mac daddy would be a better coach if he would - for the love of God - quit worrying about the officiating. I've really grown to hate that guy.
 
Kidding?? Pretty bad game, IMO. I was game to watch but quit because, well, the game wasn't that good to watch.

Reference was to the outcome...Longhorns are a young team and Aggies are underachievers, there was momentum swing back and forth even with the sloppiness. Last game of a historic rivalry came down to the last second, so again: What a Game!!!
 
Reference was to the outcome...Longhorns are a young team and Aggies are underachievers, there was momentum swing back and forth even with the sloppiness. Last game of a historic rivalry came down to the last second, so again: What a Game!!!

Lol, I'll take the COOOOGS anyday.
 
Last game of a historic rivalry

This sucks as a fan of football.

A&M and the others leaving the big 12 sucks and was kinda silly. They left because of the Longhorn Network ..... Mad that they werent getting a cut of the pie or didnt have the following to garner their own "Network" deals.

The Aggies say they want to continue the rivalry .... but I dont see it happening.

I guess the Horns will get the last laugh while watching the Aggies "Try" to compete with the big boys in the SEC. They couldnt hang with the big boys in the Big 12 for much of the last decade .... they wont do it often in the SEC either. LSU , Bama and Auburn will have their way with "Lil Sister".
 
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Whatever.

All that needs to be said on the subject of the end of the Texas vs. ATM series is that Texas is refusing to schedule ATM in basketball, baseball, etc. One might be able to stomach the weak excuse for not scheduling football due to the limited number of games played each year, but refusing to schedule ATM for any sports shows just how petty Deloss Dodds is. It's the same reason that he opposes Houston being added to the Big XII.
 
Whatever.

All that needs to be said on the subject of the end of the Texas vs. ATM series is that Texas is refusing to schedule ATM in basketball, baseball, etc. One might be able to stomach the weak excuse for not scheduling football due to the limited number of games played each year, but refusing to schedule ATM for any sports shows just how petty Deloss Dodds is. It's the same reason that he opposes Houston being added to the Big XII.

Ain't gonna be just Texas. I don't think Baylor, Tech, or TCU are going to run out and trample each other to sign home and homes with A&M either. They ditched the state. They left. Good luck, I mean that honestly, but also good riddance. They didn't want to play Texas teams anymore. That's why they left a conference that was half Texas teams to go to one where they are the outlier.
 
Ain't gonna be just Texas. I don't think Baylor, Tech, or TCU are going to run out and trample each other to sign home and homes with A&M either. They ditched the state. They left. Good luck, I mean that honestly, but also good riddance. They didn't want to play Texas teams anymore. That's why they left a conference that was half Texas teams to go to one where they are the outlier.

Dude, none of those teams you mentioned have the type of rivalry A&M and UT have. There's just no comparison among those with A&M. Face it, Dodds just doesn't want to play A&M anymore, whether it's due to pride, egos, scorn or whatever, UT is the one turning down the opportunity for football. A scheduling conflict is about the lamest excuse you could come up with to get out of this, that's the kind of excuse I use to get out of after work happy hours with people I don't really like. Sure it's polite, but it's not the real reason you don't make the event.
 
Dude, none of those teams you mentioned have the type of rivalry A&M and UT have. There's just no comparison among those with A&M. Face it, Dodds just doesn't want to play A&M anymore, whether it's due to pride, egos, scorn or whatever, UT is the one turning down the opportunity for football. A scheduling conflict is about the lamest excuse you could come up with to get out of this, that's the kind of excuse I use to get out of after work happy hours with people I don't really like. Sure it's polite, but it's not the real reason you don't make the event.

There's nothing for me to face. I never said Dodds wants to play A&M. I'm just explaining why I think he won't.

A&M left UT. If your wife leaves you and then calls once a year for some booty, how are you the bad guy for telling her where to stick it?
 
There's nothing for me to face. I never said Dodds wants to play A&M. I'm just explaining why I think he won't.

A&M left UT. If your wife leaves you and then calls once a year for some booty, how are you the bad guy for telling her where to stick it?

Great analogy.

With that said Dodds is just a petty ex track coach who has made UT alot of $$$$. He wouldn't even have gotten the job except he kept UT off probation. While he was almost directly responsible for destroying the old SWC.

This comes from a long time UT fan.
 
There's nothing for me to face. I never said Dodds wants to play A&M. I'm just explaining why I think he won't.

A&M left UT. If your wife leaves you and then calls once a year for some booty, how are you the bad guy for telling her where to stick it?

I get that, but using the excuse of a scheduling conflict is just pussing out about it. Man up and tell it like it is. UT has been adamant about everything up to this point, but now when it comes to scheduling a 100+ year football rivalry game they have "a scheduling conflict"? C'mon, that's just weak and that's certainly not 'telling her where to stick it'. A&M's offering to play that game each year as it has been for over a century and Texas simply doesn't want to keep it going.

Btw, 'wife'? Really? You think that highly of A&M? :)
 
I get that, but using the excuse of a scheduling conflict is just pussing out about it. Man up and tell it like it is. UT has been adamant about everything up to this point, but now when it comes to scheduling a 100+ year football rivalry game they have "a scheduling conflict"? C'mon, that's just weak and that's certainly not 'telling her where to stick it'. A&M's offering to play that game each year as it has been for over a century and Texas simply doesn't want to keep it going.

Btw, 'wife'? Really? You think that highly of A&M? :)

Of course it is.

Ex: "Hey, wanna go out this weekend and grab a drink?"

Me: "Nah, I'm busy this weekend... and every other weekend until 2018."

You don't think she'd get the message?
 
Of course it is.

Ex: "Hey, wanna go out this weekend and grab a drink?"

Me: "Nah, I'm busy this weekend... and every other weekend until 2018."

You don't think she'd get the message?

That still doesn't explain all of the other sports. They play around 30 to 36 basketball games and 45 to 60 baseball games every year, and they're still having a scheduling conflict? Please. That's a lame excuse from a petty Athletic Director.
 
That still doesn't explain all of the other sports. They play around 30 to 36 basketball games and 45 to 60 baseball games every year, and they're still having a scheduling conflict? Please. That's a lame excuse from a petty Athletic Director.

Do you think UT (pardon me -- tu -- don't want to confuse y'all) is really so busy every weekend for the next 20 years they can't reschedule? Take the hint.

If you run around calling a girl a whore and a slut and badmouthing her in public, she's probably not going to want to dance with you very often. When the girl says she's got to wash her hair tonight, and says the same thing all the time, you should know she's not REALLY washing her hair every single day. It's a nice way of telling you to screw off. As opposed to running around pointing fingers and blaming others for everything, the way some former conference members do.

"Arrogant conference killing sips. You whorns are all ghey cheaters. Have fun with lame ass Baylor and TCU, we're going to forge our own path without you stealin all the money."

"Whaddya mean ya don't want to play us anymore?"

Go play Mississippi State every Thanksgiving. It's sure to be a tradition that'll last a hundred years. That's what you wanted, right? SEC, SEC, SEC.....
 
Members of the Big 12 gathered around the conference table for the monthly board meeting. As everyone settled in, Aggy – late as usual – walked through the door, and refused to take a seat.

“I’m done with this bunch,” he grimly stated. “I know we signed a new cooperative contract, but I don’t intend to put up the disrespect any longer.”

He let a small smile creep over his face and said, “Not only am I leaving, but I’m heading cross town to join the SEC –they appreciate me for who I am. They are bigger, richer, and they will treat me like an equal partner!”

He whirled, pointed a finger at Texas and through clenched teeth, seethed, “It’s all you’re fault! You are a bully, a liar and a cheat. You have kept me down long enough! You are the reason I haven’t won Salesman of the Year since Hitler invaded Poland!”

OU leaned over to UT and whispered, “WTF?”

UT, responded, “quiet, he’s on a roll.”

Aggy’s voice raised a couple of octaves as he continued, “You do nothing but ridicule my family and their traditions. You have to be in complete control from the burnt orange towels in the bathroom to the sliding scale sales commissions!”

Aggy paused, and let out a laugh.

“You know what else? I’m coming back here with my friends, LSU, Alabama, Georgia and Florida and we are going to recruit some of your best clients away from all of you!!! It won’t be long until I have my rightful place as one of the best among the best, and I will revel in rubbing your face in it!

With a dramatic flourish, Aggy turned on his heels and strode for the door.

He stopped and looked back at Texas.

We’re still on for Thanksgiving dinner, right?”

http://barkingcarnival.fantake.com/2011/10/19/why-texas-wont-play-am/#more-34857
 
KANSAS CITY, Mo. - When Texas A&M declared its intention to leave the Big 12 last month, university president R. Bowen Loftin compared his school's relationship with the conference as a loveless marriage in which the Aggies were "being kept against (their) will."

Baylor women's basketball coach Kim Mulkey, who has made no secret of the end of her own marriage five years ago, said she paid special attention to those comments. And when the topic of the Lady Bears continuing their marquee rivalry with A&M came up at Big 12 media day on Wednesday, Mulkey took Loftin's analogy to a new level of candor.

"So basically, he's talking about a divorce," Mulkey said. "And I think I know a little bit about a divorce. And my feeling is this: If a man wants to divorce me and says our relationship has no value to him and then he asks me if he can sleep with me, the answer is no!"

http://www.chron.com/sports/college...lkey-sees-end-to-rivalry-with-A-M-2227310.php


It's not just UT. A&M killed their relationship with every college in Texas. Your choice. Face the consequences.
 
Not sure why y'all are crying about this. DeLoss Dodds gave aggy a chance to be in the Network, 50/50, but aggy decided no. After ESPN gave Texas a 20-years, $300 mil contract for the Network, and there were talks about showing HS Games, aggys were crying about this and decided to leave for good. And y'all did, to the SEC, like y'all wanted too. Y'all left because of our network, but y'all still want to play us? Jesus. Y'all don't deserve to play us, y'all left, not us.

And not to mention, going to Forth Worth >>> College Station. I'm glad y'all left for good and TCU joined the Big12.
 
From what I've heard UT's proposal 4 years ago was that A&M and UT have an equal share in expenses at 50/50 but UT would receive 70% of revenue to A&M's 30%. Also early projections was that annual income was about 1/3 of what ESPN ended up agreeing to last year. So I can see A&M's hesitation 4 years ago.
 
From what I've heard UT's proposal 4 years ago was that A&M and UT have an equal share in expenses at 50/50 but UT would receive 70% of revenue to A&M's 30%. Also early projections was that annual income was about 1/3 of what ESPN ended up agreeing to last year. So I can see A&M's hesitation 4 years ago.

My understanding was that there was no discussion of a revenue split because no one thought there would be any revenue to split. At the time it was thought a school network would lose money, at least at the start. No one dreamed it would be worth 300 million. UT continued to pursue the idea alone after Byrne rejected them and the Big 12 (including A&M) voted down a conference network.
 
A&M left UT. If your wife leaves you and then calls once a year for some booty, how are you the bad guy for telling her where to stick it?

Here's one that I like....

"You don't get a divorce and still get to come over every year for Thanksgiving."
 
A&M left UT. If your wife leaves you and then calls once a year for some booty, how are you the bad guy for telling her where to stick it?
Depends. Did this wife leave because she was just being hard to please, or because she was tired of her husband earning a lot more money and keeping almost all of it to himself even if she did her share of the work to keep the household running?

In some cases it is about TV contracts and positioning for a more "glorious" conference, but when it comes to the implosion of the Big 12, a lot of the rumbling is motivated by most schools not named UT getting tired of being second fiddle to Longhorns Incorporated. A lot of the schools have the perception that UT thinks it's bigger than the conference and more "important" than its conference mates.

Having said that, A&M has no right to expect UT (or any other Big 12 member school) to play them after they chose to bolt.

[Disclaimer -- I have no skin in this game either way.]
 
Depends. Did this wife leave because she was just being hard to please, or because she was tired of her husband earning a lot more money and keeping almost all of it to himself even if she did her share of the work to keep the household running?

In some cases it is about TV contracts and positioning for a more "glorious" conference, but when it comes to the implosion of the Big 12, a lot of the rumbling is motivated by most schools not named UT getting tired of being second fiddle to Longhorns Incorporated. A lot of the schools have the perception that UT thinks it's bigger than the conference and more "important" than its conference mates.

Having said that, A&M has no right to expect UT (or any other Big 12 member school) to play them after they chose to bolt.

[Disclaimer -- I have no skin in this game either way.]

Pretty funny considering UT is the only one that has insisted on bringing along conference mates whatever happens. They didn't ditch anyone.

Also the SEC allows schools to do the exact same thing Texas did wrt third tier rights. Now that the precedent has been established, how long till we see a Gator Network? And what does A&M do then?
 
There are some major homers in here on both sides, but the UT ones are certainly the more annoying of the two.

It was stupid for A&M to leave, but it's also stupid for all the UT fans to talk so much crap about Aggies over the years and then make a big deal when the Aggies decide to leave. If Aggies were such losers, why does it matter that they left for the SEC and why do you have to be such pansies about it to refuse to play each other anymore?

As a Coog, the Ags and Horns can all stick it where the sun don't shine.
 
It was stupid for A&M to leave, but it's also stupid for all the UT fans to talk so much crap about Aggies over the years and then make a big deal when the Aggies decide to leave. If Aggies were such losers, why does it matter that they left for the SEC and why do you have to be such pansies about it to refuse to play each other anymore?

Actually it doesn't matter. It appears to me that UT has decided to move on however A&M is the one bitching that they can't keep the Thanksgiving game. That game was a conference game and Aggy left the conference so they should schedule another conference game on that day. Maybe Aggy vs Commodore will an exciting match up.

As far as UT fans talking whatever about the Aggies, maybe that goes on in Houston but in Austin I see the opposite. I see a lot of "Saw'em Off" stickers on cars around here but I don't think I have ever seen an anti A&M sticker on any UT fan's car. I do see some anti OU stuff however. I think most UT fans just don't care about A&M.

BTW, I totally get it. Growing up an Oilers now Texans fan I have always hated the Cowboys and have even owned some anti Cowboys things. However I will be the first to admit outside of Houston it is a one way rivalry. Most Cowboys fans could give a flip about the Oilers and now Texans. Many even root for them. It's because neither Houston team has ever been good enough for long enough to even be noticed by the other team in the state.

It's the same with A&M. I know many UT fans that root for them when they are not playing Texas, myself included. The only teams I root for over A&M are UT of course and UH. I have always been a Cougs fan myself and personally would love to see them in the Big XII however that is another topic.
 
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