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PapaL said:
Sources tell me they were burning...Matt Schaub's jersey in the bathroom.

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They are not REAL fans.
 
(on the decision to waive the three rookies) “Well, I won’t discuss team rules and those types of things. I’ll make decisions based on a body of work in everything I do. I’ve got five months of work invested in those three young men and made a decision today to move forward. We’ve got some things we need to address as a football team, at the inside linebacker position, our special teams. So we’ve got some moves to make. We’ll take those roster spots and try to make those moves.”
(on if he’s ever waived anybody because of rules violations since he’s been in Houston) “I don’t know. I don’t know. I’ve been here a long time. I don’t know.”
(on if the team violations were a one-time thing or if there had been re-occurring issues) “I said I don’t discuss team rules.”
(on needing to find another running back now and if there’s anyone on the practice squad that might fill that role) “Yeah, we’ve got a young man who we’ve been very impressed with. Ray Graham’s been practicing really well for us. Now, we’ve got some things we’ve got to address. I mentioned two things; inside linebacker is something we’ve got to address as a team right now. (Justin) Tuggle’s going to make a move and go over to the Sam linebacker position behind Brooks (Reed) and work outside. So we’ve got some rebuilding to do inside, with some issues. And we have some special teams issues. The moves we make have got to be special teams oriented to help Joe (Marciano). So that’s some things we’ve got to address here in the next few days.”
(on if practice squad RB Ray Graham is not guaranteed a spot on the roster) I don’t think anything’s guaranteed. We’re looking at a couple of things.”
(on why the move with LB Justin Tuggle with the need at inside linebacker) “I don’t know. With Willie (Jefferson), we’ve got another need for an outside guy. So *Bryan) Braman plays the will and Tuggle becomes the backup Sam. So that gives us our four guys there to work with and obviously (Darryl) Sharpton and Joe (Mays) will work inside. We’ve got (Mike) Mohamed. We activated Mohamed for this game. He played very well for us on special teams. Now, we’ve got a need to get some more inside help. So that’s what we’ll do.”

http://www.houstontexans.com/news/a...tober-21/dc17051e-5d9b-4aee-b543-f35a2ba8891a
 
Spled said:
Who cares if they smoked pot? The NBA couldn't field a team if they got rid of all the pot smokers.
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It has absolutely nothing to do with caring about smoking pot.. it's about discipline. They were told they could not do "exhibit A" and they still played hanky panky in a bathroom.

This has nothing to do with pot.. since we've already given players chances on this team with drug issues and our owner already came out and said he'd give a player who has a drug record a chance. These players obviously had a previous strike against them and this wreaks of a "That's it, straw breaks back" offense.

I was high as hell on Wood (he looked like Foster 2.0).. Jefferson showed a LOT of potential..even drew Jason Taylor comparisons during this camp. Montgomery always looked like a fat lazy worthless turd, so lets leave him out of this discussion.

I don't care if a team snatches these players up and they become HOF type of players somewhere else.. this is a lessen they needed to learn and it's obvious that they need to grow as men and in the future if this makes them better people, than the Texans made the right decision today.
 
Weird how some think its pot but there are people saying that when they walked into the room they were smoking a cigar. Who knows...maybe that was masking the other smell.

"But, but, but..everyone loves Kubes and they would never do anything to hurt the team and turn on him":rolleyes:
 
HoustonFrog said:
Weird how some think its pot but there are people saying that when they walked into the room they were smoking a cigar. Who knows...maybe that was masking the other smell.

"But, but, but..everyone loves Kubes and they would never do anything to hurt the team and turn on him":rolleyes:
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If rolled right you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a swisher sweet loaded with weed or a simple cigar.

This has nothing to do with Kubes or how the team feels about him, that kind of conspiracy theory would be giving these three dumbasses too much credit.
 
I've spent a good chunk of my life at house parties and hotel parties, and I can tell you this timeless truth about kids: If they're smogging up a small space, it isn't tobacco.

When Kubiak said that he looked at a body of work, it included the players' reputation and team history. Jefferson was arrested after falling asleep at a Taco Bell drive through. Cierre Wood had been disciplined in college. Montgomery had been disciplined at LSU, and he showed up to Texans camp out of shape. Antonio Smith and Swearinger had personally warned him to get it together. The organization had taken a chance on these guys, and they repayed the organization by becoming liabilities. It has nothing to do with losing the locker room or making examples out of people. It's about wasting no more time on people who aren't getting the message.
 
Brisco_County said:
I've spent a good chunk of my life at house parties and hotel parties, and I can tell you this timeless truth about kids: If they're smogging up a small space, it isn't tobacco.

When Kubiak said that he looked at a body of work, it included the players' reputation and team history. Jefferson was arrested after falling asleep at a Taco Bell drive through. Cierre Wood had been disciplined in college. Montgomery had been disciplined at LSU, and he showed up to Texans camp out of shape. Antonio Smith and Swearinger had personally warned him to get it together. The organization had taken a chance on these guys, and they repayed the organization by becoming liabilities. It has nothing to do with losing the locker room or making examples out of people. It's about wasting no more time on people who aren't getting the message.
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Exactly, these morons simply were unwilling to become men and put away childish things.. plain and simple. Not having a 3rd RB active is probably why we even lost against the chiefs.
 
Still don't know what the hell they were thinking drafting Montgomery in the 3rd to play OLB. Just threw that pick away. At least the other guys were UFA and we have a good track record with selecting/picking up backs who fit our scheme. I hope they move Brooks Reed to ILB and sure up the RT and OLB position next year. We need more pressure coming from the outside.
 
Carr Bombed said:
If rolled right you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a swisher sweet loaded with weed or a simple cigar.

This has nothing to do with Kubes or how the team feels about him, that kind of conspiracy theory would be giving these three dumbasses too much credit.
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I agree with all that you've said. I was just being a smart-a because in the past anything that happened good or bad was some how spun to where Kubiak had some zen like control of the team and they would die for him. i.e. see McNairs comments after this game.
 
SW H-TOWN said:
Still don't know what the hell they were thinking drafting Montgomery in the 3rd to play OLB. Just threw that pick away. At least the other guys were UFA and we have a good track record with selecting/picking up backs who fit our scheme. I hope they move Brooks Reed to ILB and sure up the RT and OLB position next year. We need more pressure coming from the outside.
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I agree with this but my concern is that this team has been completely unable to draft defensive talent outside of the first round. Can't draft good CBs or LBs or anything really. Well, we drafted one good lineman in the sixth but the pats are getting the benefits of that one.
 
two OLB's on a wade phillips defense, and a UDFA runningback who just had both guys ahead of him go down with injuries. it takes a special kind of stupid to blow that kind of opportunity. you know you have a history, you know you dont get any strikes ... and yet you cant resist temptation long enough to become a millionaire by playing a game.
 
Lord Bills said:
listening to 610 right now,

willie jefferson source say they were smoking cigars in the bathroom after curfew, nobody ever came in, but said somebody smelled smoke and told team officials, then officials asked the players to come in.

They are denying it was marijuana.

Excessive punishment if you ask me. You gotta give these guys more leeway.
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badboy said:
So if you play football, you get to hang in topless bars, with prostitutes and smoke dope? Why is there an exemption for that? Rules are in place for a reason. How about manning up and following them? Why should athletes get exception? All tennis players do is smack a tiny ball as do golfers, so they by your definition have to obey rules but not football players? Why is my view draconian? The players union agreed to it so live up to it. You sound like the boy who said "if there wasn't a stupid rule I would not have broken it."
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I'm with badboy on this. Dudes get a rule book before the season and agree to abide by it when they sign the contract. I'd bet the vets have told them what things would get them fined and what things would get them cut somewhere along the way. They decided to ignore the rules they signed up for and chose do what they wanted to do. Now they paid the price. No sympathy from me.

TejasTom said:
From the press conference today, sounded like this was more of a last straw than an isolated incident.
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I was thinking this same thing. We never hear about the internal fines until something like this - guys actually getting cut - happens. I was wondering to myself if this was their first offense or their fourth or fifth. The "leeway" some folks are asking for may have already been extended and they came to the end of their ropes.

And it speaks to their lack of discipline too. If you can't be disciplined off the field (the freakin' night before the game for cripes sake!), how can your teammates depend on you having discipline on the field??
 
Carr Bombed said:
It has absolutely nothing to do with caring about smoking pot.. it's about discipline. They were told they could not do "exhibit A" and they still played hanky panky in a bathroom.

This has nothing to do with pot.. since we've already given players chances on this team with drug issues and our owner already came out and said he'd give a player who has a drug record a chance. These players obviously had a previous strike against them and this wreaks of a "That's it, straw breaks back" offense.

I was high as hell on Wood (he looked like Foster 2.0).. Jefferson showed a LOT of potential..even drew Jason Taylor comparisons during this camp. Montgomery always looked like a fat lazy worthless turd, so lets leave him out of this discussion.

I don't care if a team snatches these players up and they become HOF type of players somewhere else.. this is a lessen they needed to learn and it's obvious that they need to grow as men and in the future if this makes them better people, than the Texans made the right decision today.
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Former Viking & HoF'er Cris Carter will tell anyone that will listen that he was going down this road until Buddy Ryan cut him for this kind of crap. It woke him up and set him on the path to being a real man. Sometimes it takes a two-by-four across the noggin to get a guy's attention.

Brisco_County said:
I've spent a good chunk of my life at house parties and hotel parties, and I can tell you this timeless truth about kids: If they're smogging up a small space, it isn't tobacco.

When Kubiak said that he looked at a body of work, it included the players' reputation and team history. Jefferson was arrested after falling asleep at a Taco Bell drive through. Cierre Wood had been disciplined in college. Montgomery had been disciplined at LSU, and he showed up to Texans camp out of shape. Antonio Smith and Swearinger had personally warned him to get it together. The organization had taken a chance on these guys, and they repayed the organization by becoming liabilities. It has nothing to do with losing the locker room or making examples out of people. It's about wasting no more time on people who aren't getting the message.
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Reps to you both.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Montgomery should have never been drafted.
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very disappointed with sam. the talent was there. i really thought that he could have made a solid pair with williams - a heavy olb and a pass rusher. montgomery couldnt care less about the game and i actually had to look up williams because i'd forgotten his name. wasted talent.

what's really funny is the comments on NFL.com regarding this story, fans of several teams wanting him. some folks just dont pay attention.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Ray Graham practicing well now. Tuggle to SAM. Also looking for a returner.

per Deepi
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I'm so excited. I enjoyed watching him at Pittsburgh last year. I also thought he did pretty good in the preseason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q75pYDYKeU

Ray Graham has a chance to develop. He was my favorite RB in college football last year. My second favorite? Zac Stacy who had some good runs against us when the Rams came to town.

Guys like Ray Graham and Zac Stacy have heart and work hard.

Cierre Wood blew a great opportunity. I'm glad his ass is gone.

Here is Ray Graham's Texans Touchdown in the preseason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2tjQ0ahMUM

Keenum handing it off to him. Could have used him last game and we may have beaten the Chiefs. Ray Graham would have found a way to score on that second and goal at the half yard line. The play Greg Jones lost yards on.
 
If these players WERE caught with weed (and especially if not for the first time, and on top of dogging it in the classroom and practice field), Kubiak may have cut them now, knowing that they were heading for NFL league suspension anyway. Of course, only speculating.
 
These players are obviously not Houston Texans worthy.

What a shame. Their careers, like the Texans 2013 season, goes up in smoke. :howdy:
 
Lord Bills said:
listening to 610 right now,

willie jefferson source say they were smoking cigars in the bathroom after curfew, nobody ever came in, but said somebody smelled smoke and told team officials, then officials asked the players to come in.

They are denying it was marijuana.

Excessive punishment if you ask me. You gotta give these guys more leeway.
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Sure they are. Ever heard of a blunt? My money is on that's what went down. IF it's ever made public I bet we'll find out there was a "little kick" in those cigars. Not trying to start a stereotype "hood" thing but that's what my gut is telling me. If I've heard/read correctly in the past, once they take the TCH test at the beginning of the season they're not tested for weed again.

I smell a blunt.

Even if I'm wrong it was just dumb.
 
drs23 said:
Sure they are. Ever heard of a blunt? My money is on that's what went down. IF it's ever made public I bet we'll find out there was a "little kick" in those cigars. Not trying to start a stereotype "hood" thing but that's what my gut is telling me. If I've heard/read correctly in the past, once they take the TCH test at the beginning of the season they're not tested for weed again.

I smell a blunt.

Even if I'm wrong it was just dumb.
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I'm not thinking you're wrong.

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And it comes with instructions to conceal the smell:kubepalm::wadepalm::


Indoor Smoking

We all know it's more comfortable to smoke in the privacy of your own house, bedroom, or sheltered from the elements. So, this will help you keep your marijuana use concealed even indoors.

•Tube / Spoof / Etc. - One of the most common ways to hide the odor of marijuana smoke indoors is by using a tube, also known as a spoof. It is simply a toilet paper roll with dryer sheets stuffed in it that you use to blow the smoke through, masking it with the smell of the dryer sheet. To make one, start by stuffing 5-6 dryer sheets (more if dryer sheets are thin) inside of a toilet paper roll, or any cardboard tube. To create a "filter", to increase the life of your tube, wrap two dryer sheets around the end of the tube you plan on blowing the smoke through. This will collect majority of the residue, thus extending the life of the dryer sheets stuffed inside of the tube. Generally, after a week or so of daily use, it is recommended that you replace the dryer sheets. Be sure to only use this method for bowls, because it is pointless to use with a blunt or joint, since the smoke still gets into the air from the still burning marijuana. If your bowl remains burning in between hits, cover it to extinguish the embers and prevent smoke from eminating from the bowl.

•Febreeze - Febreeze or any other odor eliminating spray will eliminate nearly all marijuana odor if you are smoking in a confined space (bathroom, basement, etc.). However, if used in large rooms, it loses effect since it requires more Febreeze to mask it. If you are smoking in your bedroom, blow smoke out of a window or through a tube.

•Exhaust vents - If you are smoking indoors, you could use a exhaust vent along with Febreeze to eliminate the smell of marijuana smoke. Most houses have exhaust vents in kitchens and bathrooms, both of which are common rooms, so only use this if you have the house to yourself and you have at least thirty minutes for any leftover smell to exit the area.

•Vaporizer - Vaporizing your marijuana reduces the amount of odor because of two reasons, one, the marijuana does not actually combust, and two, it gives off a different odor than the one most commonly associated with marijuana smoke, and this odor is much easier to cover up with Febreeze or other odor eliminating sprays.
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drs23 said:
Sure they are. Ever heard of a blunt? My money is on that's what went down. IF it's ever made public I bet we'll find out there was a "little kick" in those cigars. Not trying to start a stereotype "hood" thing but that's what my gut is telling me. If I've heard/read correctly in the past, once they take the TCH test at the beginning of the season they're not tested for weed again.

I smell a blunt.

Even if I'm wrong it was just dumb.
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Yep. That's what I'm thinking, too.

Can't imagine anyone getting canned over smoking a cigar.

Blunt.
 
houstonspartan said:
Yep. That's what I'm thinking, too.

Can't imagine anyone getting canned over smoking a cigar.

Blunt.
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More than just the cigar, 3 grown men huddled in the bathroom smoking a cigar? Very odd. As if they couldn't step outside to enjoy that cigar? And only one for all 3? Never shared a cigar with anyone, but shared plenty of the other.
 
Dishman said:
More than just the cigar, 3 grown men huddled in the bathroom smoking a cigar? Very odd. As if they couldn't step outside to enjoy that cigar? And only one for all 3? Never shared a cigar with anyone, but shared plenty of the other.
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Bathroom? Makes for good conversation. "Ill show you mine, if you show me yours.":rake:
 
So they went unclaimed through the waiver period. Does this mean that other teams deemed them unworthy or can they still get picked up by other teams? Also how long is that waiver period?
 
msbbc833 said:
So they went unclaimed through the waiver period. Does this mean that other teams deemed them unworthy or can they still get picked up by other teams? Also how long is that waiver period?
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The waiver period is 24 hours. After that, if they have not been claimed, they are FAs and can negotiate with any team.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The waiver period is 24 hours. After that, if they have not been claimed, they are FAs and can negotiate with any team.
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True, but each one of them was under contract for the rookie minimum, so if nobody was willing to pick up those contracts, there's no reason to believe they'd be interested after they cleared waivers (ie: they'll never be cheaper then they were off the waiver wire).
 
They should have just snorted lines of coke all night long like any decent celebrity, I mean no skunky smell and it would be out of the system in 3 days.

Silly kids they should have known not to mess with the most awful of all "drugs" the maryjuana. How much tax money is spent fighting this awful, highly addictive and certain averdose causing plant, er I mean drug?

Those kids will find a team who has the wherewithal to get them some counseling, minor "rehab" and then put them back out there. Not the high and mighty Houston Texans we win our championships with guys who only pop steroids and go to church after every practice.

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ChampionTexan said:
True, but each one of them was under contract for the rookie minimum, so if nobody was willing to pick up those contracts, there's no reason to believe they'd be interested after they cleared waivers (ie: they'll never be cheaper then they were off the waiver wire).
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I'd be shocked if at least Wood doesn't get picked up. I would think the Cowboys would be very interested.
 
Bulls on Parade said:
I'm so excited. I enjoyed watching him at Pittsburgh last year. I also thought he did pretty good in the preseason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q75pYDYKeU

Ray Graham has a chance to develop. He was my favorite RB in college football last year. My second favorite? Zac Stacy who had some good runs against us when the Rams came to town.

Guys like Ray Graham and Zac Stacy have heart and work hard.

Cierre Wood blew a great opportunity. I'm glad his ass is gone.

Here is Ray Graham's Texans Touchdown in the preseason.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2tjQ0ahMUM

Keenum handing it off to him. Could have used him last game and we may have beaten the Chiefs. Ray Graham would have found a way to score on that second and goal at the half yard line. The play Greg Jones lost yards on.
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I don't know much about Graham, and didn't really focus on him in preseason. In the college highlight video you posted, he showed outstanding lateral movement. Has he recovered that movement since his knee injury?
It clearly seems to be his strength. If he is anywhere close to 100% compared to the vid you posted, he might have the best lateral movement of any RB to ever put on a Texans uniform, TBH.
He looks like a perfect one-cut runner for our system.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Then why wouldn't they claim him off of waivers?
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I have no idea, I was just saying that I couldn't imagine at least Cierre Wood not getting picked up. I wasn't arguing that you were wrong or anything.

But if these 3 guys leave and don't get picked up by anyone, what does that say about the quality of our team?
 
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