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Texans Trade for Anthony Miller

Interested to see Mills and Miller after a long week to prepare for the Bills. I think the slot WR is going to play a big role in this offense whether its Mills or Tyrod at QB. With Miller on a contract year he could set himself up well if that shoulder stays healthy.

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HOUSTON -- Anthony Miller displayed an understanding of spacing, soft hands and an innate toughness during his regular-season debut with the Texans. The
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Texansballer74 said:
Ok this crap is getting out of hand. Come on Nick you’re full crap now.
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Definitely wonder what happened here. Was his work ethic in question during his short time here?

Did the team tell him Amendola is coming back and taking the slot WR job and he requested his release? At any rate, not a fan of too many more of these draft pick trades to get a look at someone then ultimately release them. Your scouts should be able to tell you if they are a team fit without giving up a draft pick to give the player a test drive.
 
During next year's draft during the 5th RD when the Chicago Bears are on the clock using the Houston Texans 5th RD pick to make their selection there will be a moment of silence for Anthony Miller. I think Nicky baby used another 5th RD pick to move up to draft that oh so average and ordinary college WR, Pep Hamilton loving him some Nico Collins.
 
Lucky said:
It was a 4th. But, hey they're not important.

Signed,
Caserio Kool Aid Drinkers
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You have a source on it being a 4th? All I see is it was a 5th.

Either way it’s too high to be wasting like that. One would think you have to give it a year.

Unless the guy did something like Urban Meyer or Antonio Brown.
 
Lucky said:
I was referring to the future pick (2022 4th) used to move up to take Nico Collins. The Miller trade was for the Texans 2022 5th with the Texans getting the Bears 2022 7th back, as well.
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You are right I see that now.

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steelbtexan said:
What bag of excuses, Caserio swung and missed

He lost a 5th Rd pick. God Caserio sucks, fire him now.
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When you swing and miss 3 times you strike out. Caserio has swung and missed 4 times trading for players. So as they say in the BIG leagues, GTFOOH. Or as Caserio says, this something we will continue to do and not shy away from. So you got that to look forward to. :)
 
Texian said:
When you swing and miss 3 times you strike out. Caserio has swung and missed 4 times trading for players. So as they say in the BIG leagues, GTFOOH. Or as Caserio says, this something we will continue to do and not shy away from. So you got that to look forward to. :)
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Which players did he miss on and what was the cost?

I don't have a problem moving up to get Collins etc... Cannon has to work his way back into shape.

Point is losing 5th Rd picks occasionally isn't going to ruin your franchise. Now missing on 3rd Rd picks like the Texans routinely have since their inception will really hurt a franchise.
 
steelbtexan said:
Which players did he miss on and what was the cost?

I don't have a problem moving up to get Collins etc... Cannon has to work his way back into shape.

Point is losing 5th Rd picks occasionally isn't going to ruin your franchise. Now missing on 3rd Rd picks like the Texans routinely have since their inception will really hurt a franchise.
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There are those excuses I was talking about.

Miller: 5th 2022 (received 7th 2022)
Ryan Izzo: 7th 2022
Ryan Finley: 7th 2021 (received 7th 2021)
Ka'dar Hollman: 7th 2022
 
Texian said:
I'm beginning to think that you and Bob Kraft are the only two people that are really happy that Nick Caserio is the Houston Texans GM. :)
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I'm not happy or unhappy at this point.

He's done things that I like (Signing over 1/2 of the roster to 1-2 yr deals/trading Roby and 7 mil, buying a 3rd.) and things that I dont like so far. Signing DJ/The Lawson trade etc...
 
Texian said:
I'm beginning to think that you and Bob Kraft are the only two people that are really happy that Nick Caserio is the Houston Texans GM. :)
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You know, I’m pretty damn happy that Nick Caserio is the Texans GM.

He inherited an absolute spitting image of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.

I was hoping for best possible outcome when Caserio made those trades using a RD5 and some RD7 picks. The players didn’t work out….so what!!! Hail, he didn’t mortgage the future trying to find players from the bargain basement bin.

The picks everyone should be focused on….the picks Caserio can get in return for Watson and maybe Tunsil. Also, I’ve got a feeling some other veterans and off-season pickups could be moved to reload the mid and backend of the draft before the deadline or during the off-season.
 
OptimisticTexan said:
Hail, he didn’t mortgage the future trying to find players from the bargain basement bin.
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MORTGAGING THE FUTURE is exactly what he did. He jettison half the roster creating over $24 million in dead cap money in 2021. He then restructured every contract that he could (mortgaging the future, borrowing from future salary caps 2022 and 2023) in order sign a bunch of has beens who are over the hill (THE BARGAIN BASEMENT BIN) to 1 or 2 year contracts in order to fill out the roster and be able to field team in 2021. Not to mention the number of draft picks he flushed down the toilet on bargain basement players.

It's hard to be objective and see things as they truly are when you are wearing rose colored glasses 24/7.

OptimisticTexan said:
He inherited an absolute spitting image of the Titanic after it hit the iceberg.
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He shuffled the chairs on the Titanic is what he did. The Nick Caserio years will be known as "The Lost Decade"
 
Texian said:
There are those excuses I was talking about.

Miller: 5th 2022 (received 7th 2022)
Ryan Izzo: 7th 2022
Ryan Finley: 7th 2021 (received 7th 2021)
Ka'dar Hollman: 7th 2022
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This is a Chicken Little post right here.

If people are going to use this as a measurement for success and failure of a NFL franchise then they are just trolling.

People are looking for anything to grapple on to.

If they didn’t like the hire in the first place they are always going to have the predictable opinion that there is doom and gloom.
 
Texian said:
MORTGAGING THE FUTURE is exactly what he did. He jettison half the roster creating over $24 million in dead cap money in 2021. He then restructured every contract that he could (mortgaging the future, borrowing from future salary caps 2022 and 2023) in order sign a bunch of has beens who are over the hill (THE BARGAIN BASEMENT BIN) to 1 or 2 year contracts in order to fill out the roster and be able to field team in 2021. Not to mention the number of draft picks he flushed down the toilet on bargain basement players.

It's hard to be objective and see things as they truly are when you are wearing rose colored glasses 24/7.



He shuffled the chairs on the Titanic is what he did. The Nick Caserio years will be known as "The Lost Decade"
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#overdramatic

You only listed three picks as being wasted in a previous post and and now “it’s a number of draft picks wasted.”

How much money is wasted in 2022 and 2023? This is thrown around a bunch but I haven’t seen an actual number.

What could Caserio had done to make this a championship team? Specifics and not random speculation.

Nothing. That is why this team created dead cap money for this year for bad contracts and create freedom for the team to be free of those players.
 
thunderkyss said:
What's the percentage of 5th, 6th, & 7th round success? I think Nick has been par for the course.
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Some good information I found. I can’t write a summary yet.


Round And Longevity: Another Look At NFL Career Length | mgoblog

ROUNDS AND LONGEVITY: ANOTHER LOOK AT NFL CAREER LENGTH In the twelve year span from 1995-2007, about 2,600 players that heard their names called in the NFL Draft have seen the field on Sunday somewhere and for some length of time. The question we are examining in this particular work is, “How...
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What stats tells us about the draft by round

The best times to draft certain positions based on the last 10 years.
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OptimisticTexan said:
The picks everyone should be focused on….the picks Caserio can get in return for Watson and maybe Tunsil.
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I agree. That's what Caserio will ultimately be judged on. What I don't agree with is all of the atta boys Caserio has gotten for what he's done thus far. Which is basically nothing. Or less than nothing. And Caserio's performance thus far doesn't make me feel all that confident in what he will do in the future.

But you are correct. It's the Watson trade and how he handles the big draft capital in the future is what Caserio will be remembered for.
thunderkyss said:
What's the percentage of 5th, 6th, & 7th round success? I think Nick has been par for the course.
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Yes, I have no problem with the picks Caserio has made. It's squandering the extra chances for literally nothing that I have an issue with.
 
Texian said:
He then restructured every contract that he could (mortgaging the future, borrowing from future salary caps 2022 and 2023) in order sign a bunch of has beens who are over the hill (THE BARGAIN BASEMENT BIN) to 1 or 2 year contracts in order to fill out the roster and be able to field team in 2021.
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Is that what Eliot Wolf was advising Belichick to do with Gilmore?
 
thunderkyss said:
Is that what Eliot Wolf was advising Belichick to do with Gilmore?
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It looks like Belichick is back to his old ways of trading former #1 draft picks when they reach 30+ much like he did with Richard Seymour and Chandler Jones. He's gets something for them unlike Texans did with Mario Williams. And in Gilmore's case, BB had the cap space in 2021 so he took advantage of getting Gilmore's money off the 2022 books. Smart move. It has worked well for BB in past so it looks BB is going back to what has worked well for him before. I don't know what Wolf was advising BB I wasn't in the building.
 
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