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Obviously a worse coach than Bruce Arians...when will the Texans stop settling for mediocrity?
Not saying he's a bad coach, but I really don't think Whisenhunt has the ceiling of a top-tier NFL head coach. He's a safe, but limited, hire. Kind of reminds me of our last head coach...
Also has a horrible track record of finding QBs. Kevin Kolb? Anderson? No thanks.
Being the most successful Cardinals H/C is not some ground breaking feet. It's the Cardinals.
And as been stated, Whis' track record of such is horrible. Warner was already there when Whisenhunt arrived, and when Warner left, Ken's ideas of replacement were laughably bad. Derrick Anderson? Kevin Kolb? Free agents are one thing, but as you said, some coaches just have bad luck in the drafts trying to find their QB. That's the biggest reason why Ken is a total fraud. The guy completely ignored quarterback in the draft. You could think a guy who is a supposedly awesome offensive schemer would make a concerted effort to find a quarterback, but he never did. The guy's vision for talent is simply non-existent, and if the Texans are serious about taking a quarterback at 1.1, he sure as hell ain't the coach I want in the green room.
As for coaches overachieving without a great quarterback, Ken's replacement is doing just that right now in Arizona.
That remains to be seen, especially considering the injury situation and the folks that'll be lost in Free Agency.This team doesn't need a full tear-down. We thought this team was a Super Bowl contender going into the season, right? A talentless team would not be thought of so highly.
Our problems are mainly coaching. Get a new coach, get a top toy, and bolster depth and we'll be right back where we were expected to be.
I'll be shocked if it isn't one mentioned thus far.Just going through the motions. Nobody has been hired yet. I doubt our next coach's name has even been mentioned yet.
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...When will the Texans stop settling for mediocrity?...
Whisenhunt's head coaching record in games which Kurt Warner started:
24-18
.571
Whisenhunt's head coaching record in games which Kurt Warner did not start:
21-33
.388
dont know much about the guy except for what I've just read in this thread and after doing that he does seem like a mediocre HC but like someone else said, if we get the right QB it could work.
So was Belichick when he was fired from the Browns. Got the right QB for his system and the rest is history.
Some coaches need a second chance in order to learn from their mistakes. Some luck into a good coach the first go around.
We'll have to see what the Texans get in the next month...
Mike Holmgren.
Uhmm I think McNair laid out in the firing press conference that he is looking for a person with both heading coaching and NFL experience...ie. a retread. It is silly to criticize someone for doing what he told you he was going to do.
Nothing I see tells me I want him as a head coach. In the top 5 in giveaways and penalties year after year? That's a discipline problem. If you can't explain how you change that I don't know how you can coach.
Mike
You won't get anyone young, dynamic and on the rise. Just more of the same.
Mike Holmgren.
Kubiak was young, dynamic, and on the rise.... when he was hired...
Not really.
He was with Denver, and he's from Texas, two selling points as far as McNair was concerned.
But he was rarely linked to NFL head-coaching jobs.
(And I'm not sure "dynamic" would be an adjective associated with Kubes.)
I'll go you one further...
Belichick LUCKED into the right QB for his system. If he hadn't been forced to play Brady, he probably would have stuck with Bledsoe and Brady might never have gotten off the bench.
Whether Belichick lucked into Brady or not, he had the good sense to keep him starting and design an offense around his abilities that has been amazing. Just think what Brady could've done with as much talent as Manning had around him.I'll go you one further...
Belichick LUCKED into the right QB for his system. If he hadn't been forced to play Brady, he probably would have stuck with Bledsoe and Brady might never have gotten off the bench.
Not really.
He was with Denver, and he's from Texas, two selling points as far as McNair was concerned.
But he was rarely linked to NFL head-coaching jobs.
(And I'm not sure "dynamic" would be an adjective associated with Kubes.)
I work with one if the brothers of one of the defensive starters. He seems certain they are going to hire Whisenhunt. He guarantees it, but I Dont really think he is exactly correct. God I hope that he is wrong.
There's no way in hell the brother of a player has solid info about who the hire will be this early. No way in hell.
Mainly because the team doesn't even know yet.
Kubiak had been interviewed for the Texans job when it first came open but that went to Capers...Kubiak was one of those "when is he going to get his chance to be a head coach" coordinators like Mike Zimmer is now with the Bengals.
Although there was speculation that Kubiak would eventually leave Denver, I wasn't aware that he had interviewed with, or was linked to, any team other than the Texans.
Zimmer, for example, has interviewed with several, including Miami, Tampa Bay and Cleveland.
I think Kubiak interviewed for the Browns expansion team (that job went to former Oiler assistant and later Texan OC Chris Palmer). I had also heard he turned down interviews for head coaching positions.Like I said, I remember him having interviewed with the Texans back around 2001 when we were looking for a new HC. IIRC (and I may not), his name was brought up as an HC candidate for various HC jobs back then and I believe he went on some interviews. I don't know if he turned down jobs or if he just never impressed anyone before McNair.
I think Kubiak interviewed for the Browns expansion team (that job went to former Oiler assistant and later Texan OC Chris Palmer). I had also heard he turned down interviews for head coaching positions.
If you only look at Ken Whisenhunt's 45-51 head coaching record in Arizona, you will come away very unimpressed. Sure, he went to the Super Bowl in 2008, but with a 9-7 team. However, Whisenhunt was severely hamstrung in Arizona by a lack of quality offensive linemen which lead to a last place rushing attack in four of the six years he was head coach and astronomical sack numbers. With that said, Whisenhunt produced a passing attack that ranked 2nd, 2nd and 3rd over his first three years in Arizona and a rushing attack that was 1st in his first two season (three total) as Pittsburgh Steelers offensive coordinator from 2004-2006.
Whisenhunt is respected around the football world as an offensive mind. Wisenhunt was the coordinator for Ben Roethlisberger's first three years in the league so he understands what it means to handle and try to develop a young quarterback which the Texans will likely target this offseason. Whisenhunt's ability to resurrect the faltering career of Philip Rivers with a quick-hitting, ball control offense is a definite feather in his cap and something that Bob McNair should take notice of. Whisenhunt will likely want to focus on more of a power-based running game if he comes.
I like Wisenhunt better than the other candidates currently
being reported. He can run a coherent offense when he has
a QB and receiver.
The only person that would scare me is Sherm. He has a track
record here, runs a similar offense to Gary, and would
probably be very convincing to McNair if he came in and
said he could win with the current talent.
(and I am not a Sherm fan)
TJ
Sherm?
Report: He is to be the Titan coach now per sports app
With no Bud Adam around to interfere with a good coach, the Titans might actually become a threat in the division.
Report: He is to be the Titan coach now per sports app
Report: He is to be the Titan coach now per sports app
Awesome. This means the Titans will wallow around in the mud with free agent QBs for the next 4 years until they start looking for a new head coach. The division could be ours!!!
Awesome. This means the Titans will wallow around in the mud with free agent QBs for the next 4 years until they start looking for a new head coach. The division could be ours!!!