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Texans sign Kevin Walter to Offer Sheet

Koolbrz said:
Let's see we need a #2 WR and we go out and get a #4. Great move CC!! Bengals will not match the offer.

I thought the same thing when I heard about the offer we tendered him, but then I realized he played behind Chad Johnson, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Chris Henry. Not a shabby core of WR's there, which is probably one reason they won't match the offer. He was a #4 there, would probably be a #3 here.
 
TexanFan881 said:
I still am not too high on him, I don't think he could beat out Mathis or Armstrong to be our #2. I guess I'll have to wait to see him though :thumbup

I don't think Walter (if the Bengals don't match), Mathis, or Armstrong will be our #2. If the Texans don't get Burleson, we'll go after someone else. I do believe we'll sign a WR that we've all heard of this offseason. Who it is has yet to be seen, but I think we'll get someone who is proven.
 
We'll go after this guy

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TexanSam said:
I don't think Walter (if the Bengals don't match), Mathis, or Armstrong will be our #2. If the Texans don't get Burleson, we'll go after someone else. I do believe we'll sign a WR that we've all heard of this offseason. Who it is has yet to be seen, but I think we'll get someone who is proven.

I really hope your right. :redtowel:
 
run-david-run said:
Yep, we all found out this season how getting "younger and faster" improves the team!

It will in the long run, Glenn and Sharper might have helped us to a better record last year, but they weren't part of any long term plan and were simply helping to fill a 53 man roster on a expansion team that was going though the process of overturning its roster. Letting them go allows or forces us to find a more permanent solution. As soon as our young guys grow up we'll be a better team.
 
Carr Bomb said:
It will in the long run, Glenn and Sharper might have helped us to a better record last year, but they weren't part of any long term plan and were simply helping to fill a 53 man roster on a expansion team that was going though the process of overturning its roster. Letting them go allows or forces us to find a more permanent solution. As soon as our young guys grow up we'll be a better team.
Yeah, that was mostly just a dig at the "Reggie is saviour, he walks on water" people. Pretty soon Im gonna have to make a VY joke to balance it out. It was nice to hear some logic on the MB, quite rare.
 
run-david-run said:
Yeah, that was mostly just a dig at the "Reggie is saviour, he walks on water" people.

Thats fine, lately I've tried to distance myself from the whole situation, its become to much of a firestorm, kinda like trying to talk politics at a dinner party. I'm at the point where I don't give a crap what the texans do in the draft and just hope it all works out in the end.
 
Sharper was cut from his second team in two years and Glenn was a nickleback in dallas, by the time we get things turned around both would be too old and we would be stuck inserting yound guys down the road. Might as well do that now so the can learn, grow, and form new leadership (Dunta?) so this team can hit on all cylinders in a few years.
 
Turp007 said:
Sharper played in Seattle this past year, and Glenn played well but you are right about New Leadership. My arguement is that none of the guys stepped up last year and it was obvious because of a last of Senior Leadership. Dunta has to step up. He should have been a rookie Pro-Bowler and when he playes you see something special. He has to feed this off on the team and get this thing going!
Dunta is going to be our next leader on defense, you can see it in his interviews and when he's on the field,(Glenn took him under his wing and kinda made him his pet project and alot of Glenn rubbed off on him). He always looked disgusted after losing game after game while others looked content, but he is still young and still made mistakes, which there isn't a problem with that, like I said hes young. As he gets older he will only get better and will take on the role as a team leader.
 
texan279 said:
I thought the same thing when I heard about the offer we tendered him, but then I realized he played behind Chad Johnson, TJ Houshmandzadeh, and Chris Henry. Not a shabby core of WR's there, which is probably one reason they won't match the offer. He was a #4 there, would probably be a #3 here.


That still leaves a hole at the #2 spot. Would love to pick up Burleson, but that is not up to me.
 
Has anyone heard any news or updates on the Bengals on what they plan to do?
 
whiskeyrbl said:
Has anyone heard any news or updates on the Bengals on what they plan to do?

The Bengals are expected to not match the offer according to a kffl blurb.
 
Bengals | Team not likely to match offer sheet
Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:33:29 -0800

Geoff Hobson, of Bengals.com, reports the Cincinnati Bengals are not likely to match the offer sheet given to WR Kevin Walter by the Houston Texans. The Bengals have to make a decision this weekend.
 
Texans | Team declines to match Walter's offer sheet
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:29:29 -0800

Mark Curnutte, of the Cincinnati Enquirer, reports the Cincinnati Bengals have declined to match to offer sheet made by the Houston Texans to restricted free agent WR Kevin Walter. He signed an offer sheet on a four-year, $6.4 million contract with the Texans. The Texans will owe the Bengals a seventh-round draft pick as compensation.

Bye bye seventh round pick :)
 
hey atleast we know that our seventh round pick will make the team this year...haha...we now have atleast decent competition for the number 2 reciever if nate burleson isn't signed
 
This is a sound signing. Giving up a 7th for Walters and signing him at a cheap rate is great. I think this guy will be one of the fan favorites in Houston like McCaffrey was in Denver.
 
keyfro said:
hey atleast we know that our seventh round pick will make the team this year...haha...we now have atleast decent competition for the number 2 reciever if nate burleson isn't signed

I wouldn't call Walter compensation to fill the #2 spot, if we don't get Burleson, but maybe he'll be able to contribute. Here's something I haven't seen anyone mention though, maybe Armstrong is going to be the #2 guy if the Texans don't pick-up a solid #2 guy. Just throwing it out there.
 
TexanFan881 said:
If we don't sign anyone else at WR I think Armstrong deserves the spot more than the other WR's on our team.

i agree, I think if we draft bush and sign putzier, our whole offense will be so much better as a whole and if armstrong isn't good enough for our #2 reciever we can adress it next year with guys like Clavin Johnson, Dwayne Jarrett
 
Bengals | M. Lewis comments about letting K. Walter go
Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:55:33 -0800

Cincinnati Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis had the following comments about the team's decision not to match the Houston Texans offer sheet to WR Kevin Walter: "Kevin has been a fine player for us, and he deserves the opportunity he'll get in Houston to be a starting receiver," Lewis said. "But as we build our roster for the upcoming season, we believe it's in the best interest of our team to allocate these funds to another position."

Hopefully he won't have to start for us and we'll bring in someone else but he will get a chance. The next step is signing Burleson...:)
 
TexanFan881 said:
If we don't sign anyone else at WR I think Armstrong deserves the spot more than the other WR's on our team.

Since AJ and JMathis are all Texans have at WR, (now Walter)...Armstrong should get first shot at #2....He has good hands, but supposedly he runs poor routes.
 
Don't forget Starling who is in the NFLE. If we get Burl, it would look like some one will be released. I want to see people working out on their receiving skills with Carr starting next week. The new people are going to have to get accustomed to receiving the missles. Goooo TEXAAAAANS.....
 
I don't know that Starling is going to make it. He's listed on the Rhein Fire's practice squad. :confused:
 
has anyone thought that derick armstrong and kendrick starling might not be as good as we think...we see them only during the pre-season and they really don't do a whole lot to impress then...if starling can't even start in NFLE then maybe it's time we looked at some other receivers
 
I'm not that impressed with Starling but I guess maybe Armstrong isn't as good as we think and he's not playing for a reason...
 
just saw this on espn..

From the outset, it seemed, Cincinnati had no intention of matching the offer sheet. Walter was, at best, the No. 4 wide receiver on the Bengals' roster, and the team was not going to overspend to retain him. In fact, many teams around the league were stunned by the size of the offer sheet, especially for a young wideout who has not played very much.
 
I don't believe the Texans signed him to be our saviour or the #2 receiver on this team. Unless I'm mistaken, we're getting pretty thin at receiver and need to add some personnel to our staff. Walters will be a role player just like he was in Cincinnati.
 
Maddict5 said:
just saw this on espn..


Well, let's hope he proves them wrong. How many players have been back ups, or a late round pick, or yada yada yada just waiting for a opportunity. Maybe this will be his time to shine and prove alot of people wrong ( a la Drew Brees). I am willing to see how it plays out.
 
Turp007 said:
But if I am not mistaken, I believe Drew Brees was taken in the first round by the chargers just behind LT.

1st Pick, 2nd Round. Had a few great years in Purdue. Broke some records. Not exactly a slouch in college. Even had some Heisman talk before a streak of bad games.
 
I just meant there was talk that Brees wasn't cutting the mustard and was going to be ousted, the Chargers even spent another pick on Rivers. Mid-rounders like Zack Thomas turn into top notch guys. And lots of current starters just needed the opportunity to show what they could do, wasn't Tom Brady a back-up? If I remember correctly, my memory is fuzzy this morning/noon. THere are tons of other examples that aren't popping into my mind right now.

I think we are getting at the same point, he was backing up some great receivers in Cincinati. Just because he was a #4 or so there, doesn't mean he can't compete for #2 or #3 spot here. We are not as deep at WR as the Bungals. I really think he can have much greater success with us.

:)
 
Hardcore Texan said:
I just meant there was talk that Brees wasn't cutting the mustard and was going to be outsted, the Chargers even spent another pick on Rivers. Mid-rounders like Zack Thomas turn into top notch guys. And lots of current starters just needed the opportunity to show what they could do, wasn't Tom Brady a back-up? If I remember correctly, my memory is fuzzy this morning/noon. THere are tons of other examples that aren't popping into my mind right now.

I think we are getting at the same point, he was backing up some great receivers in Cincinati. Just because he was a #4 or so their, doesn't mean he can't compete for #2 or #3 spot here. We are not as deep at WR as the Bungals. I really think he can have much greater success with us.

:)

Your right mate, later round picks can blossom - wasn't Davis a 4th round pick as well? The Bengals Rudi Johnson was also a 4th rounder and look how he turned out.

Tom Brady was a 6th Round Pick:hmmm: .....
 
This is not a negative post on Kevin Walter!

I was just wondering what the buzz was about?

I saw that we signed him to a nice contract.

ESPN said that he has been in the league for 3 seasons and has not even gone over 300 yards in his career. Is there something that I'm not aware of?

Thanks
 
Hardcore Texan said:
I think we are getting at the same point, he was backing up some great receivers in Cincinati. Just because he was a #4 or so their, doesn't mean he can't compete for #2 or #3 spot here. We are not as deep at WR as the Bungals. I really think he can have much greater success with us.

:)

I know, there are maybe another dozen or so WRs out there that are better than what we've seen, playing at the #3/4 spot. Joe Horn, is the guy I think about....... not even Drafted........ but a #1 reciever no less, multiple Pro Bowls...... He was back up to the likes of Eddie Kennison, and someone else I can't even remember in Kansas City.

Rod Smith also went undrafted........... & I think he's done OK in this league.

There really is sooooo much talent out their, I wonder why more of those guys don't stick their neck out, and demand more playing time, or say no to some of these multi year contracts, that make them carreer backups.

Of course, they need to work their buts off like Joe Horn, and Rod Smith did. So when they get their opportunity, they take full advantage of it.

Oh yeah, how could I forget....... Kurt Warner... not a WR, but a great story.
 
Crazygomer said:
This is not a negative post on Kevin Walter!

I was just wondering what the buzz was about?

I saw that we signed him to a nice contract.

ESPN said that he has been in the league for 3 seasons and has not even gone over 300 yards in his career. Is there something that I'm not aware of?

Thanks

You will see soon enough. This guy has a work ethic that is AWESOME. He has great hands, big, tall WR. He only "dropped" 1 pass last season.

He is one of the best kept secrets in the NFL. He has just had the numbers stacked against him. First when he was drafted by NY in the 7th round and was 1 of 9 WR fighting for 4 spots and three locked already with Hilliard, Toomer, and Carter. he was fortunately waived right away, not lasting more than 24 hours on the waiver wire picked up by Bengals and moved from the practice squad to the 53 man roster within weeks of being signed.

He is a player that TRUELY LOVES THE GAME and is willing to do anything for his team to WIN. That includes being a PROFESSIONAL and waiting for his nuber to be called whenever that may be. He was their special teams ACE.

I remember watching the Monday night game agains Denver and Champ Bailey (FAST FAST) lined up on Kevin as a gunner for a punt by cinci and Kevin BLEW past Champ. The next time Kevin lined up There was Champ... and another to beat up on Kevin. He is always one of the first players down field in the mix.

When his number was called with the Bengals, he produced. Almost all of his catches moved the chains for a first down and more.

You are going to LOVE this guy. He will fight for #2, that is his character and work ethic. Did I mention he rund very tight routes ( a QB loves to know that his WR is going to be at a spot when he turns to check his route to be open.) and he is PHYSICAL and fights for the extra yards... and runs a 4.4 40
 
Sounds like a player that we can count on and that when on the field we can know he is giving us all he has. All we can ask for is that he does his very best, and that characteristic about him is very entriguing to me. Kevin has a lot of upside for our team.
 
Bearfan Blue and Orange said:
You will see soon enough. This guy has a work ethic that is AWESOME. He has great hands, big, tall WR. He only "dropped" 1 pass last season.

He is one of the best kept secrets in the NFL. He has just had the numbers stacked against him. First when he was drafted by NY in the 7th round and was 1 of 9 WR fighting for 4 spots and three locked already with Hilliard, Toomer, and Carter. he was fortunately waived right away, not lasting more than 24 hours on the waiver wire picked up by Bengals and moved from the practice squad to the 53 man roster within weeks of being signed.

He is a player that TRUELY LOVES THE GAME and is willing to do anything for his team to WIN. That includes being a PROFESSIONAL and waiting for his nuber to be called whenever that may be. He was their special teams ACE.

I remember watching the Monday night game agains Denver and Champ Bailey (FAST FAST) lined up on Kevin as a gunner for a punt by cinci and Kevin BLEW past Champ. The next time Kevin lined up There was Champ... and another to beat up on Kevin. He is always one of the first players down field in the mix.

When his number was called with the Bengals, he produced. Almost all of his catches moved the chains for a first down and more.

You are going to LOVE this guy. He will fight for #2, that is his character and work ethic. Did I mention he rund very tight routes ( a QB loves to know that his WR is going to be at a spot when he turns to check his route to be open.) and he is PHYSICAL and fights for the extra yards... and runs a 4.4 40

ok lets not get too excited yet and the quickest ive seen anywhere he runs is a high 4.5-4.6
 
Maddict5 said:
ok lets not get too excited yet and the quickest ive seen anywhere he runs is a high 4.5-4.6


That was out of college. On his Proday he was running a 4.45.

You can have the fastest guys on a team, but if they can't catch the ball, what does it do for you.

Do you know why Brett Favre is so good? His receivers that are successful run tight routes. Favre does not throw to a receiver, he throws to a spot where that receiver is suppose to be.

Carr has not had those option other than AJ and heck even the BEST WR has small chances when there are 3 guys blanketing you.

Your WR corps have improved. Now if Carr can get somone to block for 2.5 seconds, that would give him ample time to run through his reads before checking down or running for his life.

I say Texans should do like the Bears did when we had a high draft pick, we traded down twice and ended up with 2 late 1st round picks multiple 4 and 4th round picks. when rebuilding with a new coach and many holes to fill, it is about quantity versus quality. You draft a Reggie Bush when you are 1 player away from completing the puzzle, but if you could fill 3 holes with trading down Reggie Bush, doesn't that make sense and get you that much closer to the ultimate goal.

Aperfect example of what teams are doing now is modelilng the Patriots. No major superstar on the team, but several pieces of the puzzle that if one piece falls another can take his place.

If you put all your eggs (Bears do this) with Bush and he get hurt for some reason, where is your season. You will start sounding like the Chicago Cubs "Wait until Next Year"
 
For all of you who poo-poo on people that frame acquisitions and attritions and the DNA of the team on salary cap here is what Marvin Lewis had to say about them not matching an offer:

"Kevin has been a fine player for us, and he deserves the opportunity he'll get in Houston to be a starting receiver," Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said. "But as we build our roster for the upcoming season, we believe it's in the best interest of our team to allocate these funds to another position."

That is the sign of a mature HC that has a vision. Salary cap and the prodcut on the field are inextricably linked. I understand that this is a news flash for some.

http://www.whptv.com/sports/story.aspx?content_id=75EBDD9B-9DF4-4BAF-BD1D-0FD40E4E6DD2
 
Kaiser Toro said:
For all of you who poo-poo on people that frame acquisitions and attritions and the DNA of the team on salary cap here is what Marvin Lewis had to say about them not matching an offer:

"Kevin has been a fine player for us, and he deserves the opportunity he'll get in Houston to be a starting receiver," Bengals head coach Marvin Lewis said. "But as we build our roster for the upcoming season, we believe it's in the best interest of our team to allocate these funds to another position."

That is the sign of a mature HC that has a vision. Salary cap and the prodcut on the field are inextricably linked. I understand that this is a news flash for some.

http://www.whptv.com/sports/story.aspx?content_id=75EBDD9B-9DF4-4BAF-BD1D-0FD40E4E6DD2

Marvin Lewis is a stud for a coach. I'm glad he's got such good things to say about Walter. Although I doubt he's gonna say something like, "Walter sucks."
 
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