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Texans sign Jake Delhomme

ziggy29 said:
It's hard for me to imagine Delhomme is a better option than Garcia. Having said that, I think Garcia worked out for them twice now, and the Texans chose Clemens and Delhomme over him. Either they think Garcia is thoroughly finished or they think he's a bad fit for one reason or another. Can't think of anything else.

At this point TJ appears to be the Texans' Obi-wan-Kenobi -- our only hope...
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Not attacking your position on this, just poking and prodding it a bit.

Why would they invite him BACK a second time if they didn't like what he offered the first time? If anything, it bolsters the idea that he held something of value to be brought in THIS week.

My problem is where did Delhomme come from? Why wasn't he in last week's workout? That's where I am puzzled. He came in and beat out every other person who worked out LAST week, and he beat out Garcia who had two tryouts on the books.

He's the #2 guy now. If Yates gets banged up and sits out, whether it be a few plays or a few quarters, or even a whole game or two, then we're looking at Jake Delhomme taking snaps.

I preferred Garcia's history as being more mobile and more decisive with where he threw his passes. Oh well, it is what it is.
 
Vinny said:
You'd be more physically ill if Owen Daniels had to step in.
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Maybe. Maybe not. :choke:

Seriously, I've always hated Delhomme. Not personally----I don't know him and he may be a terrific guy---but I've always thought he was a scrub, even when he was winning.

I was actually kind of looking forward to seeing Garcia running around in the backfield and making plays (assuming he had to be pressed into service).

Now I'm hoping Yates looks like he did against LSU last year and Delhomme never sees the field.
 
I think its not out of the realm of possibility that Garcia didn't look ready or in shape to them(I'm not saying was or wasn't actually ready, just that they must have factored that into their decision).
 
Wow people, calm down, he's going to be third string. It's not like there was much else out there to begin with. Yates is our hope for the rest of the season, and if he can pull a good Dilfer impersonation, we have a chance to win a playoff game or 3.
 
Dutchrudder said:
Wow people, calm down, he's going to be third string. It's not like there was much else out there to begin with. Yates is our hope for the rest of the season, and if he can pull a good Dilfer impersonation, we have a chance to win a playoff game or 3.
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He's 2nd string.

He's taking the snap if Yates comes out of the game or can't continue.

That's why we're all barfing on here.
 
TexansFanatic said:
I don't believe that's correct.

He was brought in to be second string.

Clemens was brought in to be third string and that's where he will stay.
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Then why was Clemens brought in first? Signing a third-stringer before you sign somebody that will actually be active doesn't make a shred of sense.
 
Iceman16 said:
Then why was Clemens brought in first? Signing a third-stringer before you sign somebody that will actually be active doesn't make a shred of sense.
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Because Clemens was brought in last week, when we needed a third stringer.

Last week we had our starter, Leinart.

We had our second stringer, Yates.

We need a third stringer last week and we got him in Clemens.

This week we needed a second stringer.
 
GP said:
I preferred Garcia's history as being more mobile and more decisive with where he threw his passes. Oh well, it is what it is.
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I did too. I thought that age difference (41 and 36, I think) notwithstanding, Garcia was the best fit of the old, creaky vets who were available. His strengths were decent decision making and accuracy, and his best game was play action and the rollout pass. I think that's what this team needs to open up the running game and the best fit for what this offense wants to do. Yeah, it might underutilize AJ a bit if he couldn't nail the downfield pass as much as before, but the most important thing is to get 9 out of the box so the running game has a chance.

But my point remains: they passed on him twice. Why? I don't think it was anything personal, so for some reason they had to see something that suggested (twice) that someone was a better fit for the team. It's easy for me to say Garcia is the best fit, but I'm not at the workouts. Yeah, if they brought him back a second time it means they weren't convinced he was out of the question the first time, but still...

That Garcia is from my alma mater is irrelevant -- I *thought* he seemed the most logical choice based on his history and what I think this team needs in an "insurance" QB. But for whatever reason, on two separate occasions, they thought someone else was more suitable.

And now I go back to the Favre question. My personal feeling is that they never even much bothered with Favre because they had NO intention of handing him the starter's job on Day One, and I suspect they knew Favre would not ever willingly stand on the sidelines and hold a clipboard for anyone, especially not a rookie. His ego is way too big for that.
 
Iceman16 said:
Then why was Clemens brought in first? Signing a third-stringer before you sign somebody that will actually be active doesn't make a shred of sense.
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Lets see. We bring in 5 guys. We pick what we believe is the best guy there in Kellen Clemens. We pass on Garcia. A week later we bring him back in, and if we would've signed him, he would've been ahead of Clemens? If we thought Garcia was the better QB, or Delhomme in that matter, why didn't we bring them in first?!? I completely agree with you.
 
This is a non issue to me. If we have to go beyond Yates, it's really not going to matter much. Hell, it might not matter with Yates.
 
Speedy said:
This is a non issue to me. If we have to go beyond Yates, it's really not going to matter much. Hell, it might not matter with Yates.
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This is probably the most reasonable mindset.

But I think a lot of us were hoping Garcia still had some fumes left in the tank---a whisper of the magic he brought to the field a number of years ago.

What we have to do know is just hope and pray that Yates is a natural born badass.
 
Iceman16 said:
Then why was Clemens brought in first? Signing a third-stringer before you sign somebody that will actually be active doesn't make a shred of sense.
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It almost kinda does.

If you look at the 2nd and 3rd stringers as having a certain "function", then the 3rd stringer's function is basically to run the practice squad and to be an emergency option.

The 2nd stringer's function is to be ready to come in and take snaps at a moment's notice.

The 3rd stringer will make less than the 2nd stringer (in a perfect world.)

When Leinart was the #1, Clemens' responsibilities and functions were to be #3 with Yates at #2. They may have signed him just to be a #3. And Delhomme may be brought in as the #2.

But if Delhomme's tryout was as pathetic as McCain said, Clemens might be promoted to #2.

It makes more sense to me to sign them in the order of rank so that Clemens is #2 now and Delhomme is #3. But I can understand if they did it the other way.
 
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TexansFanatic said:
This is probably the most reasonable mindset.

But I think a lot of us were hoping Garcia still had some fumes left in the tank---a whisper of the magic he brought to the field a number of years ago.

What we have to do know is just hope and pray that Yates is a natural born badass.
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That's how I see it. Garcia -- at least a Garcia that still had some in the tank -- at least seemed like a good fit for this team's offensive philosophy.

But now, we burn incense and make sacrifices to the Football gods, hoping that Yates gets it done. Not expecting miracles, but at least enough to competently manage the offense and establish enough of a passing threat to open up the run.
 
LikeMike said:
Chill out guys... he is our #3QB. What are the chances of our other 2 QBs injuring themselves :thinking:.Well, he has some Superbowl experience, so maybe he can be a good role model and perhaps give some advice here and there. But really, if we have to go to our 5th QB this season, there really isn`t any hope left for a good end of the season.

Edit: Oh and just as a german I have to correct GP here: it is Wiener Schnitzel ;-)
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awwwww crap you had to go and say it...knocking on wood furiously
 
Speedy said:
This is a non issue to me. If we have to go beyond Yates, it's really not going to matter much. Hell, it might not matter with Yates.
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If Delhomme is the best option -- and I trust the team's evaluation of the available options enough to accept that -- then we really need to get on the Yates bandwagon and support the hell out of him from here on out. We NEED him to be our guy.
 
I'm not sure if that sick feeling I just got is because of this signing or because of some bad tacos.

For the record, I think the tacos were pretty good.
 
We have a QB who has played in the big game.

Seriously though, I didn't want Jake but we really didn't have many options.

I mean he was with the BROWNS last year, we have the best defense in the NFL and a fantastic running game(not to mention some good receivers including this guy named Andre Johnson). He does not need to do much but keep the game under control and not turn it over which over course he has always done.

Pros:
-He is a career winner
-He has playoff experience(including the Superbowl)
-He is not very old compared to some other QBs in question

Cons:
-He is a INT machine
 
imatexan said:
We have a superbowl winner folks.

Seriously though, I didn't want Jake but we really didn't have many options.

I mean he was with the BROWNS last year, we have the best defense in the NFL and a fantastic running game(not to mention some good receivers including this guy named Andre Johnson). He does not need to do much but keep the game under control and not turn it over which over course he has always done.

Pros:
-He is a career winner
-He LOST a superbowl
-He is not very old compared to some other QBs in question

Cons:
-He is a INT machine
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Fixed it.
 
imatexan said:
We have a superbowl winner folks.

Seriously though, I didn't want Jake but we really didn't have many options.

I mean he was with the BROWNS last year, we have the best defense in the NFL and a fantastic running game(not to mention some good receivers including this guy named Andre Johnson). He does not need to do much but keep the game under control and not turn it over which over course he has always done.

Pros:
-He is a career winner
-He won a superbowl
-He is not very old compared to some other QBs in question

Cons:
-He is a INT machine
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Panthers did not win the wardrobe malfunction bowl
 
imatexan said:
We have a QB who has played in the big game

Seriously though, I didn't want Jake but we really didn't have many options.

I mean he was with the BROWNS last year, we have the best defense in the NFL and a fantastic running game(not to mention some good receivers including this guy named Andre Johnson). He does not need to do much but keep the game under control and not turn it over which over course he has always done.

Pros:
-He is a career winner
-He has playoff experience(including the Superbowl)
-He is not very old compared to some other QBs in question

Cons:
-He is a INT machine
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Another pro, the Texans obviously liked him better than Garcia, who they worked out twice.
 
I "like" Delhomme by the merit that he's under the age of 40. Like someone else said, if Yates fails then it doesn't really matter who's back there because all the options are $h*ty. It's like walking up to a buffet and trying to chose to wait in a line behind John McClain or another one behind Kobayashi. Either way you are going to be left with nothing
 
False Start said:
Check this video out about Delhomme, its a skit/comedy type thing. It's from a fan site, and produced very well. They are ragging on Delhomme about his interception problem, its pretty funny.

Jake Delhomme's addiction... the truth.

:heh:
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LOL. Not too shabby. Thanks for sharing the link.

They should have had a clip or two of them doing a "Reenactment" where Delhomme throws interceptions in his daily life: Tosses a piece of dog food to his dog, but it ends up in the baby's mouth instead. Or maybe he tries to throw his underwear into the laundry basket but it ends up in the toilet.
 
Goatcheese said:
Condition of employment. It's easier to say "I'm sorry" than "I can't."
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Speculation, where did this info come from?

Fact is He did say he could Work with/Fix HWNSNBM.

Aggies will say/distort the facts in just about every way possible to defend Gary.
 
disaacks3 said:
I wouldn't be too sure about that, at least Owen actually KNOWS the Offense.

The same Kubiak who told Bob McNair he could fix/work with David Carr? Just sayin..... :nolisten:
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Kubiak never told McNair he could fix a broken HWWNBM .... He did say that HWWNBM had the physical tools to be a top tier NFL QB if he would commit to working hard on the details and nuances of the game. He didnt have the mental aptitude nor "Want To". Nothing Kubiak or any other coach can do to change that.

There's a whole lot of difference there.


If you ever saw a Texas practice while HHWNBM was around , by week 8 of that season Kubiak had gone from being hard on the guy to .... -shakes head , I give up- .... when a mistake was made , corrections were made and the same mistake was made again.

$24 million dollar body , 2 bit brain. Thats how you can sum up HWWNBM.
 
steelbtexan said:
What happened with the Rosencopter deal?
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That was just idle speculation. Miami would have to waive him and then he'd have to either clear waivers or not get picked up by someone else. And if he was put on waivers, the odds are that the Titans snap him up just to keep him from falling to us.
 
As far as signing Delhomme ..... I liked the guy when he was leading Carolina to the playoffs , he has some moxie that Ive seen very few QB's exibit .... Brees comes to mind ..... then injury and father time caught up to him.

As long as he's there pushing Yates and not on the field this is probably a good signing ..... If he has to play that defense better not let anyone score.
 
Corrosion said:
Kubiak never told McNair he could fix a broken HWWNBM .... He did say that HWWNBM had the physical tools to be a top tier NFL QB if he would commit to working hard on the details and nuances of the game. He didnt have the mental aptitude nor "Want To". Nothing Kubiak or any other coach can do to change that.

There's a whole lot of difference there.


If you ever saw a Texas practice while HHWNBM was around , by week 8 of that season Kubiak had gone from being hard on the guy to .... -shakes head , I give up- .... when a mistake was made , corrections were made and the same mistake was made again.

$24 million dollar body , 2 bit brain. Thats how you can sum up HWWNBM.
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Solid recap.
 
I've had a while to sit on it and it's not the tacos.

Jake Delhomme: You retired too?
Matt Leinart: Not me. I'm in my prime.
Jake Delhomme: Yeah, you look it.
Matt Leinart: And you must be Delhomme. Look, darling, Jake Delhomme. The most turnover prone QB since Wild Brett, they say. What do you think, darling? Should I hate him?
Kate: You don't even know him.
Matt Leinart: Yes, but there's just something about him. Something around the eyes, I don't know, reminds me of... me. No. I'm sure of it, I hate him.
Gary Kubiak: He's drunk.
 
I trust our staff in selecting the best QB out there.

Garcia tried out twice. He didn't make it twice and probably for a good reason. He's 41. I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't have it anymore. I'm not too happy with Delhomme, but he was probably the best option out there.

Let's hope he doesn't play though, and that Yates plays lights out.
 
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