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Texans sign FB Lawrence Vickers

badboy said:
Welcome DB58 but I doubt many of us want to just give the job to UDFA Hartmann. Let's have a bit of competition and then decide before game one. As has been said NFL is a whole'nother game from college.
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Disagree.

How can it be so different than college? If your Texans special teams unit blocks properly, the guy just has to punt the ball.

The field is the same length, same width, and all the guy does is punt the ball. Bingo, Bango, Bongo. The end.

Sign a UDFA on the cheap and be done with it.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
The way Casey occasionally "blew" people up was with hits down field after gaining distance momentum.

Leach had massive "torque" and could blow people up 2 feet into the play.

Casey is not going to bring that to the table. And with whatever other skills and options he might bring, the "Leach factor" will not be one.
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As soon as I posted what I posted, I realized the same thing you're saying here.

Yes, that particular block occurred out in open space downfield.

Just want to clarify that I am in favor of bringing Vickers aboard, much more than I am Ty Warren (if we're having to pick and choose due to cap).
 
beerlover said:
Casey wouldn't hold up as Texan starting Fullback with his injury history. Somebody in this organization likes these tweener types, good undersized athletes with catching ability.

Vickers would be a much safer route. They need to get it done quickly too, no time to waste.
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Injury history? Didn't he have a MCL and played through it anyway? Got it cleaned up, didn't miss the whole season. Some injury history. And he's 6'3'' 250, how big do you think most fullbacks are?

It's a shame that so many lack faith in Casey simply because he's not Vonta Leach. Leach left for money, don't forget that. He left a supreme offense, the league's leading rusher and game's best WR for a hole like Baltimore. For :money:. That makes him the enemy now. So please stop wishing he was on the team because he had that choice and made the wrong one. It doesn't mean you get to make **** up about James Casey though.
 
b0ng said:
My thoughts:

Vickers is in no way going to be nearly as good or as punishing as Leach is as a blocker. If we bring in Vickers, he needs to be brought in at a rate that is significantly less than what Leach got in Baltimore or else the FO is mentally disabled.

I am very interested in the prospect of having a pass catching athletic guy like Casey in the FB role I'm not totally sold that it's going to work.
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Clearly you dont know who Vickers is.
 
I just watched a bunch of Peyton Hillis highlights. Look for #47 which is the FB Vickers. I'd be perfectly happy if we brought this guy in and paid him half of what Leach is. Can make some GREAT blocks.
 
thunderkyss said:
I think most of the mismatches are going to come out of the fullback sets. The defenses will counter with their base set, 3 LBs... we can motion Casey out to the slot.... now he's got a LB or a safety on him. If it's a LB, Casey should be able to outrun him to the middle of the field, catch it over his shoulder & keep running to the house.

If he's split outside, they'll probably counter with the nickel.... he motions to full back, then he has to block..... which we aren't too sure he can do with any proficiency.
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Defenses put their personnel on the field pre-snap. they won't know where Casey will be starting or end up. They'll just know hes in the game.

Kubiak could give Matt more flexibility and allow him to Go run or pass based on how many DBS are in the game though.

And remember, Casey doesn't have to motion to the fb spot to block. If the defense is in nickel you coils just leave Casey in the slot and keep the defense spread out.

You could also do a lot more things with 3 te sets.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I just watched a bunch of Peyton Hillis highlights. Look for #47 which is the FB Vickers. I'd be perfectly happy if we brought this guy in and paid him half of what Leach is. Can make some GREAT blocks.
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I love the highlight where he is talking smack to Ray Lewis before the game. Gotta love that.
 
Ole Miss Texan said:
I just watched a bunch of Peyton Hillis highlights. Look for #47 which is the FB Vickers. I'd be perfectly happy if we brought this guy in and paid him half of what Leach is. Can make some GREAT blocks.
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I honestly think people are overvaluing leach.

There are a lot of fb's out there that can run into a hole and blow people up. Maybe leach looks more impressive than most, but lots of guys out there that can block from that position.

They just don't get the notoriety until a rb has a big year behind them.
 
Rey said:
I honestly think people are overvaluing leach.

There are a lot of fb's out there that can run into a hole and blow people up. Maybe leach looks more impressive than most, but lots of guys out there that can block from that position.

They just don't get the notoriety until a rb has a big year behind them.
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Agreed, and I a really do like Leach a lot.

To the bolded part: Or when they actively campaign for a pro bowl spot. :)
 
Rey said:
I honestly think people are overvaluing leach.

There are a lot of fb's out there that can run into a hole and blow people up. Maybe leach looks more impressive than most, but lots of guys out there that can block from that position.

They just don't get the notoriety until a rb has a big year behind them.
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This! Plus if memory serves, the last 2 2,000 yd rushers were T. Davis and C. Johnson. Their FBs were Howard Griffith and Ahmad Hall respectively. Hardly pro bowl material
 
GP said:
Disagree.

How can it be so different than college? If your Texans special teams unit blocks properly, the guy just has to punt the ball.

The field is the same length, same width, and all the guy does is punt the ball. Bingo, Bango, Bongo. The end.

Sign a UDFA on the cheap and be done with it.
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If he's got good hang time.... yes.

In the NFL, everybody running down the field is much faster. So is the guy returning the ball. If he doesn't give our guys enough time to get down the field... he'll have low net yards.


I'm just saying in general, the youtube video of the kid shows his kick-offs to have plenty of hang time... he needs to work on shortening his distance though.
 
thunderkyss said:
I'm just saying in general, the youtube video of the kid shows his kick-offs to have plenty of hang time... he needs to work on shortening his distance though.
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To your point, I think the ability to be accurate is just as important as being long. Accuracy, to me, is being able to judge your distance as well as direction. Let's pin them inside the 10 yard line!
 
First off I don't usually come to other team boards, but I had to see what was the likelihood of Vickers coming to the Texans.

All I can say for the people who are not sure about Vickers is he is a beast.

Just take a look at any footage on youtube of Harrison's career day against K.C. and you will Vickers clearing the way.

He blew open holes for a aging Jamal Lewis to get 1000 plus back to back yrs.
Plowed the way for Harrison to get pretty much 600 yds of his 867 in the last 3 games.

And was the reason Hillis blew up last year, and then for some reason Mangini decided to go with a single back set and Hillis was not much of a factor down the stretch.

Vickers caught 13 passes for 91 yards and two touchdowns in 2007, and 10 passes for 78 yards in 2008.

And then they changed the offense yet again and stopped using him out of the backfield.

In short I hoped we would resign him to help teach our rookie but I don't see it happening. And if you get him you wont regret it.
 
BrwnsTown said:
First off I don't usually come to other team boards, but I had to see what was the likelihood of Vickers coming to the Texans.

All I can say for the people who are not sure about Vickers is he is a beast.

Just take a look at any footage on youtube of Harrison's career day against K.C. and you will Vickers clearing the way.

He blew open holes for a aging Jamal Lewis to get 1000 plus back to back yrs.
Plowed the way for Harrison to get pretty much 600 yds of his 867 in the last 3 games.

And was the reason Hillis blew up last year, and then for some reason Mangini decided to go with a single back set and Hillis was not much of a factor down the stretch.

Vickers caught 13 passes for 91 yards and two touchdowns in 2007, and 10 passes for 78 yards in 2008.

And then they changed the offense yet again and stopped using him out of the backfield.

In short I hoped we would resign him to help teach our rookie but I don't see it happening. And if you get him you wont regret it.
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thanks for your report. I always say fans know their own teams sometimes better than the media talking heads. If there is ever a question about a former Texan maybe we can return the favor?
 
BrwnsTown said:
First off I don't usually come to other team boards, but I had to see what was the likelihood of Vickers coming to the Texans.

All I can say for the people who are not sure about Vickers is he is a beast.

Just take a look at any footage on youtube of Harrison's career day against K.C. and you will Vickers clearing the way.

He blew open holes for a aging Jamal Lewis to get 1000 plus back to back yrs.
Plowed the way for Harrison to get pretty much 600 yds of his 867 in the last 3 games.

And was the reason Hillis blew up last year, and then for some reason Mangini decided to go with a single back set and Hillis was not much of a factor down the stretch.

Vickers caught 13 passes for 91 yards and two touchdowns in 2007, and 10 passes for 78 yards in 2008.

And then they changed the offense yet again and stopped using him out of the backfield.

In short I hoped we would resign him to help teach our rookie but I don't see it happening. And if you get him you wont regret it.
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Welcome to the Texans Board and thanks for the info.
Come around anytime, we enjoy conversing with fans of other teams (we even have some Raiders fans here, but their okay).
 
beerlover said:
thanks for your report. I always say fans know their own teams sometimes better than the media talking heads. If there is ever a question about a former Texan maybe we can return the favor?
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I totally agree with you. My cousin from Chicago gave me the low down on Manning and it was nothing but good things. I take the advice of fans over the media anyday. As a fan we see almost everygame and or preseason so we arent clouded by numbers. We see what they contribute to the team. I will miss Vonta but I think he was a pro bowler cause of the system and Foster. I honestly dont think he was worth the price that Baltimore got for him. That being said, I say hell yes to Vickers!! Great off season for us, cant wait to smash the colts week 1.:fans:
 
The Texans are at a point where they can't be taking too many risks with unknowns this season. We all know how important this season is for the current gm and coaching staff, and I think if there is a chance we can get Vickers or any other good veteran FB we should do it. James Casey may get the job done, but he may not. We don't know what he's capable of at that position. I will say that this FB situation with Leach is a bit overblown, but if we can get a good player like Vickers I don't see why we shouldn't do it instead of going into the season with a risky move like playing Casey at FB.
 
Nawzer said:
The Texans are at a point where they can't be taking too many risks with unknowns this season. We all know how important this season is for the current gm and coaching staff, and I think if there is a chance we can get Vickers or any other good veteran FB we should do it. James Casey may get the job done, but he may not. We don't know what he's capable of at that position. I will say that this FB situation with Leach is a bit overblown, but if we can get a good player like Vickers I don't see why we shouldn't do it instead of going into the season with a risky move like playing Casey at FB.
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Didnt Casey play a bit at fb last year?
 
BrwnsTown said:
First off I don't usually come to other team boards, but I had to see what was the likelihood of Vickers coming to the Texans.

All I can say for the people who are not sure about Vickers is he is a beast.

Just take a look at any footage on youtube of Harrison's career day against K.C. and you will Vickers clearing the way.

He blew open holes for a aging Jamal Lewis to get 1000 plus back to back yrs.
Plowed the way for Harrison to get pretty much 600 yds of his 867 in the last 3 games.

And was the reason Hillis blew up last year, and then for some reason Mangini decided to go with a single back set and Hillis was not much of a factor down the stretch.

Vickers caught 13 passes for 91 yards and two touchdowns in 2007, and 10 passes for 78 yards in 2008.

And then they changed the offense yet again and stopped using him out of the backfield.

In short I hoped we would resign him to help teach our rookie but I don't see it happening. And if you get him you wont regret it.
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Welcome to the board, man. Great info.
 
Nawzer said:
The Texans are at a point where they can't be taking too many risks with unknowns this season. We all know how important this season is for the current gm and coaching staff, and I think if there is a chance we can get Vickers or any other good veteran FB we should do it. James Casey may get the job done, but he may not. We don't know what he's capable of at that position. I will say that this FB situation with Leach is a bit overblown, but if we can get a good player like Vickers I don't see why we shouldn't do it instead of going into the season with a risky move like playing Casey at FB.
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More than likely Kubiak will talk to his contacts at Colorado State. If they say the kids got hands, I think we'll do what we can to sign him.

I believe the Texans are wanting to advance the offense, & use the FB as a receiver out of the backfield.

If this kid can block & is a good receiver, Kubiak wants him.
 
beerlover said:
thanks for your report. I always say fans know their own teams sometimes better than the media talking heads. If there is ever a question about a former Texan maybe we can return the favor?
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That would be great...

except it seems like a rerun in Cleveland.

Mangini signed and traded for ex jets and now Heckert is hog wild on ex eagles...

But if you guys get tired of that Andre Johnson guy I'm sure we would take him.... LOL......


And Man I just looked at your schedule...Yikes..
Those first six are a tough a stretch...

If you do get Vickers I'm sure he will make the Browns pay in week 9..
 
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ATRAIN said:
Didnt Casey play a bit at fb last year?
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Key word there is "bit". If this was any other year than you could take a chance on a guy like Casey to play the FB position. But we all know what's at stake for this franchise this year. And I'm someone who likes Casey a lot and I think he can be a very good TE for us. But I think we should definitely get a vet who knows what it takes to be successful at that position.
 
You don't think Vickers has a mean bulldog mentality? See him go over and confront Ray Lewis and the entire Ravens defense alone. Wouldn't it be great to have him meet the Ravens again, this time in a Texans uni..........while Vonta is on the other side donning the other.

Watch this short but volatile pregame interchange. The title is misleading.:

Ray Lewis bout to f up Lawrence Vickers pregame!!!
 
I want him..C'mon! I just don't see that aggresiveness from Casey.

He says I'll do my best and change some minds..

Vickers is I'll make some LB's run from me.
 
We have to sign this guy. Period.

Dude, he gets down the field quicker than Vonta. He catches and turns up field and runs quicker than Vonta. He's got the same motor and electricity running through his veins as Vonta.

I honestly do not want any other player out there getting in front of the Texans brass and stealing Bob's money that has Vickers' name on it. I can live with a rookie punter. I can live with Ty Warren going somewhere else and sucking coin out of a team like the Chiefs.

But Vickers? He could go Pro Bowl blocking on this team. He and his agent have got to know that, right?

I'm going to be sick to my stomach if we don't get this guy. Seriously ill.
 
Trap_Star said:
why haven't we signed him yet? this guy gets a rise out of my pants when i watch those vids.
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Is he restricted, meaning Browns can match our offer or something?

This website ran by a Browns fan says Cleveland put no tender on him.

It also had a poll, and 717 votes. 87% said the Browns should re-sign him.

Why Keeping Him Could Make Sense: Since coming to Cleveland, Vickers has paved the way for Jamal Lewis, Jerome Harrison, and Peyton Hillis. Each of those backs has had a lot of success and Vickers has remained healthy with no qualms about going head-to-head with tough linebackers on the Steelers and the Ravens. When you have a guy playing at such a high level and he isn't necessarily looking to go elsewhere, why not bring him back? He has received criticism for his pass catching in the West Coast Offense, but I think he can catch the ball fine; he was just put in poor situations last year in the passing game.

What the Browns Should Do: Questions about Vickers' future in Cleveland have been raised since the end of last season. The Browns did not offer him a tender like they did to a few other players. The team drafted fullback Owen Marecic in the fourth round. Maybe Marecic would make a fine starter, but we already know Vickers can get the job done. If we want our running game to stay smooth, keep Vickers and have him block, and use Marecic as the Belichick spell back/stud special teamer.

Now it's your turn -- vote in the poll below on whether or not the team should try to re-sign Lawrence Vickers!
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Yeah we need to sign this guy.
I'm a big Casey fan, but I like that attitude and the fact that he can strike like a lightning bolt.
 
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