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Texans showing some interest in Boulware

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After ranking near the bottom of the NFL in sacks each of the past three seasons, the Texans are in desperate need of an outside pass rusher. After being released by the Baltimore Ravens last week, Peter Boulware is an outside linebacker in need of a team.

Sounds like a good match. That is, if the Texans are satisfied with the health of Boulware's right knee and toe, which had injuries that contributed to him missing all of last season. There's also the matter of money, which played a part in the Ravens releasing their all-time sack leader.

Boulware visited the Texans and underwent a physical examination Tuesday. How things will progress from this point is unclear.

"Anytime there's an experienced player that has had experience in the league and becomes available, you always look at him," Texans coach Dom Capers said. "That's basically what we're dealing with. We've just talked. That's basically where we are at."

The Texans are prepared to enter the season with Antwan Peek and Jason Babin as their starting outside linebackers, but as general manager Charley Casserly demonstrated in his pursuit of St. Louis Rams left tackle Orlando Pace, he's willing to explore the possibility of acquiring elite talent.
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The "Texans grab Boulware" thread was removed until a verifiable source is found.
 
kudos. that went downhill fast. knew not to get my hopes up.
 
I am just curious? How far along id the process if a player comes in for a physical? Does that mean they have a sort of an entry number that might be worked out or is there a more solid agreement? I was just curious if anyone has an idea.
 
Let's just let that die. It may or may not be true, but defaming members due to their age or ethnicity is uncalled for & won't be tolerated. When someone hears or sees something, post it with a source.
 
DRIFTAWAY said:
who started the bogus thread?
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Someone who is no longer with us due to his comments to El Tejano. If you get banned you lose your entire posting history, so you won’t find his comments here - so no sense searching. I've found that to be a great deterrent.
 
This Boulware is a very unusual guy in this contemporay world of wealthy
sports celebriies, in fact maybe one of a kind . According to this link from
a Baltimore paper, he doesn't believe in pre-marital sex. No kidding !
"He never publicly criticized his teammates and was always the same mild-mannered guy after a big loss or a big win. He found time for fans. There were no pretenses about Boulware. He didn't need a flashy car, a flamboyant pre-game dance or an exuberant touchdown celebration.
True story: Boulware didn't believe in pre-marital sex. He took some good-natured ribbing from teammates but never changed his mind.
While some of his teammates laughed at him, they also had an immense amount of respect for Boulware because he was firm in his beliefs. Boulware was a regular at team Bible study and on the circuit for mentoring kids. "
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...ctrack=1&cset=true&coll=bal-sports-columnists
 
nunusguy said:
This Boulware is a very unusual guy in this contemporay world of wealthy
sports celebriies, in fact maybe one of a kind . According to this link from
a Baltimore paper, he doesn't believe in pre-marital sex. No kidding !
"He never publicly criticized his teammates and was always the same mild-mannered guy after a big loss or a big win. He found time for fans. There were no pretenses about Boulware. He didn't need a flashy car, a flamboyant pre-game dance or an exuberant touchdown celebration.
True story: Boulware didn't believe in pre-marital sex. He took some good-natured ribbing from teammates but never changed his mind.
While some of his teammates laughed at him, they also had an immense amount of respect for Boulware because he was firm in his beliefs. Boulware was a regular at team Bible study and on the circuit for mentoring kids. "
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http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/...ctrack=1&cset=true&coll=bal-sports-columnists
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He sounds like he is going to fit in on this team if he signs. Good character guy to teach Babin and Peek.
 
He gives us versatility for the linebackers as we can rotate the linebackers on the outside to really confuse the opposing offense.
 
ESPN's John Clayton reports former Baltimore Ravens LB Peter Boulware is clearly the hottest player available in the market. He was released last week by the Ravens. He made his first team visit Tuesday, having a physical for the Houston Texans. The visit apparently went well and Boulware surprised the team a little by how well he did in the physical. Eight teams made initial calls on Boulware after he was released. A lot of people in the Ravens organization believe he will end up in Cleveland. The Seahawks, meanwhile, are hopeful to recruit him and they have a lot of ammunition. First, Boulware's brother, Michael, is the team's starting strong safety. Second, the Seahawks play a 4-3 defense, and Boulware would like to be an end in a 4-3 scheme
 
Vinny said:
Someone who is no longer with us due to his comments to El Tejano. If you get banned you lose your entire posting history, so you won’t find his comments here - so no sense searching. I've found that to be a great deterrent.
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Wow! I didn't know there were comments made to me. What all was said?
 
Vinny said:
Babin has more career sacks as a rookie than the 3 year veteran Peek.
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Probably because Peek didn't get the same playing opportunities as Babin. The Texans invested a 1st round pick in Babin and basically handed him the starting job because of that high investment. Had Peek been afforded the same 1 year learning process as Babin it might be different.
 
bckey said:
Probably because Peek didn't get the same playing opportunities as Babin. The Texans invested a 1st round pick in Babin and basically handed him the starting job because of that high investment. Had Peek been afforded the same 1 year learning process as Babin it might be different.
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1st rounder or not everyone proves what they can or cannot do on the practice field. Peek didn't prove he was a starting caliber player.
 
Bayern said:
1st rounder or not everyone proves what they can or cannot do on the practice field. Peek didn't prove he was a starting caliber player.
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No one but the coaches knows what Peek did or didn't do in practice what we do know is be it special teams or a 1-3rd down Peek showed the internsity on the field of a starter and furthermore if he starts i think his numbers will be better than Babins. :survivor:
 
B.Diddy said:
No one but the coaches knows what Peek did or didn't do in practice what we do know is be it special teams or a 1-3rd down Peek showed the internsity on the field of a starter and furthermore if he starts i think his numbers will be better than Babins. :survivor:
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His sack total should be better than Babins if he starts... He'll play the weakside while Babin will play the strongside sense Babin plays the run so well.
 
bckey said:
Probably because Peek didn't get the same playing opportunities as Babin. The Texans invested a 1st round pick in Babin and basically handed him the starting job because of that high investment. Had Peek been afforded the same 1 year learning process as Babin it might be different.
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The team has given young players time if they can play. Glenn Earl was a 4th round rookie last year and he has more career starts than Peek, so Peek obviously hasn't earned his time before now.

Babin had a really solid season last year and had a solid stat line. He compared favorably to other LOLB's in other 3-4 systems.
 
My point was not to say Peek is better than Babin, my point was that getting Boulware could make for some extreme pass rush if you put both him and Peek on the field somehow at the same time.
 
Vinny said:
The team has given young players time if they can play. Glenn Earl was a 4th round rookie last year and he has more career starts than Peek, so Peek obviously hasn't earned his time before now.
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Very true, but you also have to take into consideration the level of competition for the starting job. Earl trying to beat out Brown is not near as high an uphill battle as Peek trying to beat out Wong. For an example involving the same player in two transactions--McCree could beat out Stevens, but not Coleman. Just because a player doesn't make it to starter doesn't mean they suck or have some major deficiency either. Wong appears to be very much on Capers' good side for his smarts and versatility.
 
infantrycak said:
Very true, but you also have to take into consideration the level of competition for the starting job. Earl trying to beat out Brown is not near as high an uphill battle as Peek trying to beat out Wong. For an example involving the same player in two transactions--McCree could beat out Stevens, but not Coleman. Just because a player doesn't make it to starter doesn't mean they suck or have some major deficiency either. Wong appears to be very much on Capers' good side for his smarts and versatility.
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IMO, if Peek were close enough a year ago. Babin would in another uniform and wong would have been on the strong side. Maybe it is a case that Peek just needed more time than Babin or Earl before being ready, but any team that is willing to give LT to a Division II player with about 50 pro snaps would not be scared to hand a job to Peek if they think he is good enough. Think Peek's lack of starts are on Peek.
 
Yeah there were plenty of times where Peek would do something dumb to get us close to a penalty a few times in his rookie season and in his second year.
 
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Originally Posted by Vinny
The team has given young players time if they can play. Glenn Earl was a 4th round rookie last year and he has more career starts than Peek, so Peek obviously hasn't earned his time before now.
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Very true, but you also have to take into consideration the level of competition for the starting job. Earl trying to beat out Brown is not near as high an uphill battle as Peek trying to beat out Wong. For an example involving the same player in two transactions--McCree could beat out Stevens, but not Coleman. Just because a player doesn't make it to starter doesn't mean they suck or have some major deficiency either. Wong appears to be very much on Capers' good side for his smarts and versatility.
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You also have to take into affect that not everyone can come right out of college and perform at there best level. Everyone adapts the NFL differently. Peek just needs more time and he will be just as good if not better than Babin.
 
Vinny said:
Easy, he has had 2 years to make the starting lineup. Babin has more sacks in one year than Peek has in his career so far. If you can't show you can play in practice you won't get many chances on the field.
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ok true but i still dont think its fair to cmpare 2 people when one hasnt even played, thats all im saying. so he hasnt proved he can play on sunday's, so to compare someone who has the playing time to someone who does i just feel IMO that isnt fair. thats all
 
Personally, I think Peek simply needed some time to mature, I've heard that he has made a commitment to learning his assignments and to control his temper. As for Babin, I think having a year under his belt will help in his maturing, he already knows what to expect. Don't forget this will be their 3rd, and 2nd seasons, respectfully. We'll be fine. I wouldn't mind seeing Boulware sign as a backup/pass rush specialist, though.
 
I think the Texans might sign him considering they brought him in for a visit but I haven't heard anything about him for the last few days. I hope to hear more soon. If anyone hears or knows anything please post.
 
I think a 4-3 team probably signs him and makes him an end. His days as an OLB may be over.
 
Peter Boulware could be waiting for the June 1st cuts. I keep hearing a lot of talk from my roommate (staunch Seahawks fan), that Seattle is trying to work out a deal. Who could fault the guy for going to play with his little brother? I think he's due to visit Seattle soon. I'll search around and see what information I can find.
 
-- Boulware Being Patient --
Mon May 23, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com

ESPN's Len Pasquarelli reports with inquiries from nearly half the franchises in the league, LB Peter Boulware, released by the Baltimore Ravens nearly two weeks ago for salary cap and injury reasons, might be the most attractive player remaining in the free agent pool. He might also be the most patient. While some of the other veterans still seeking to land an invitation to training camp have begun to panic, and anxiety levels escalate as the calendar nears June and rosters continue to fill, Boulware is exercising deliberation. Just as teams are doing background checks on him, he is taking the time to study the pedigree of some of his suitors as well. A man in demand, Boulware is in no hurry yet to decide where to continue his career. "So far, give or take, I've had calls from 14 teams, all with varying degrees of interest," agent Roosevelt Barnes said. "So it's pretty much a given that Pete will be playing in the NFL this season. But he's not in a hurry to do a deal just for the sake of doing one. Sure, he wants to get settled somewhere, get into the program, get a comfort zone with his new team and teammates. But he has to be a good fit with a team and the team with which he signs has to be a good fit for him." To date, Boulware has visited with only one team, the Houston Texans, who regard him as a pass-rush threat in their 3-4 front. There are other teams that have sought to meet with Boulware, to poke and probe him and adjudge his physical viability, but he likely will not schedule more visits until the end of this week at the earliest. Barnes apprised the interested parties that his client wants to wait until after the NFL meetings in Washington, D.C., this week, which are Tuesday and Wednesday. Once the owners have moved beyond business issues, and are prepared to focus on football again, Boulware will set up visits with those franchises he discerns have legitimate interest in him, and a plan for how to utilize the four-time Pro Bowl performer. "Pete is doing his homework right now," Barnes said, "the same way teams are doing their due diligence on him. He went to Houston, because they pushed hard for an early meeting with him, and he liked what he saw there. This won't be a world tour, but he will make some more (visits)." Two of those visits, almost certainly, will be with the Cleveland Browns and the Seattle Seahawks, since Boulware has connections with both franchises. His younger brother, SS Michael Boulware, is the starting strong safety in Seattle. New Browns GM Phil Savage was the personnel director in Baltimore and knows Boulware well.
 
This might be one incident in which if we still had Jamie Sharper we could get this guy. However, the class of the organization should speak for itself. I wonder what all it was that he saw and what he like about it.
 
El Tejano said:
This might be one incident in which if we still had Jamie Sharper we could get this guy. However, the class of the organization should speak for itself. I wonder what all it was that he saw and what he like about it.
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Well since Sharper would be counting $6 million against the cap if he was here, I don't think we'd have a prayer to get Boulware- Greenwood is counting only about $2 million against the cap this year, by the way.
 
Well, I spoke to soon first off. I wasn't considering any cap space or anything. But my point was, with keeping Sharper we have someone who Boulware played with to entice him to play for us. Seattle now has young Boulware and Sharper for Boulware to entice him to play with Seattle.
 
If he's happy to come on the cheap and play as part of a rotation, I'd be delighted to have him. Otherwise I wish him well in Seattle.
 
hey does anybody have any news on if the texans are in the hunt for boulware from the ravens and if so who else is involved in trying to get him and how strongly are we pushing to sign him?
 
Linebacker Peter Boulware left Cleveland on Thursday afternoon without a contract and headed to Seattle.

"I think he should go check it out in Seattle," Browns General Manager Phil Savage at a Canton Browns Backers event at the Pro Football Hall of Fame. "I think everybody will have a better idea of where everyone stands after that."

Savage said Boulware's physical in Cleveland was not a pass/fail situation, but "it's more that you have to project can he play full time or be a situational player."
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Reading between the lines I'd say that means Boulware wants to be paid as a three down LB, possibly even a relatively highly paid one and may not be a three down player anymore.

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infantrycak said:
Reading between the lines I'd say that means Boulware wants to be paid as a three down LB, possibly even a relatively highly paid one and may not be a three down player anymore.
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I think what's happening is that no team wants to make the first offer. They probably don't want to overpay so they're waiting for another team to move first.
 
infantrycak said:
Reading between the lines I'd say that means Boulware wants to be paid as a three down LB, possibly even a relatively highly paid one and may not be a three down player anymore.

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Agreed it seems like the Texans and Browns both are evaluating that health is an issue. Definately not worth serious money and gauarantees of being a fulltime player.
 
Browns | Nothing to Happen too Soon with Boulware - from www.KFFL.com
Mon, 6 Jun 2005 06:34:13 -0700

Jeff Schudel, of the News-Herald, the Cleveland Browns plan to see what happens with the Seattle Seahawks before making their next move regarding free agent LB Peter Boulware (Ravens). They would prefer giving him a contract with a low base salary and heavy with incentives. "I don't expect anything to happen soon," head coach Romeo Crennel said. Crennel also indicated he was disappointed the Browns could not workout Boulware when he visited last week.
 
He's probably a better fit for the Seahawks anyway, at this point. He might be a 3-down 4-3 DE, but he's not a 3-down 3-4 OLB any more. They need a replacement for Okeafor now; we to some extent and the Browns to a larger one are still building for the future.
 
I dont have ESPN-Inside - but they are reporting on the front ESPN splash page that Boulware has left Seattle also without a contract.

IMO think like others have said that it seems everyone is waiting for the first person to blink and have devalued him accordingly. Now we will see where he wants to go for real and how much money is a part of the deal.
 
I dont have ESPN-Inside - but they are reporting on the front ESPN splash page that Boulware has left Seattle also without a contract.
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Yes. I was listening to a local sports radio show here in College Station earlier today and they did mention that Boulware had left Seattle without a contract. They also mentioned their opinion that Boulware would be the last piece needed in the Texans defensive puzzle, and we are showing pretty high interest in him.
 
yeah i wouldnt mind getting, i am really suprised we have focused so much on defense this season, i know it was struggling but i figured with the kinda division we're in, we'd wanna keep up with the offensive power houses. BUT its good we're working on defense i'd rather have a balanced team rather than an awesome offensive one with a dead last defense.
 
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