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Texans roster moves

Troy Chapman said:
Bonner & White only revert back to Houston's IR if Houston chooses to do so.

Also B. Williams cleared waivers but Houston did not retain him to their IR.
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Kind of.

Bonner and White will automatically revert to the Texans IR list unless the Texans reach an injury settlement with them. The injury settlement route is very likely to the the route the Texans go, but they can't just walk away without doing something more.

Williams situation is different because it relates to an injury incurred during a previous season. Different rules and remedies apply to that.
 
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Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 34s

#Texans think real highly of Ricky Sapp and he knows the defense, now. Team will continue to churn roster. Could make his way back in '14.
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Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 44s

#Texans have released OLB Ricky Sapp, who was on NFI list. Surprised they didn't wait for him to heal.
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CloakNNNdagger said:
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Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 34s

#Texans think real highly of Ricky Sapp and he knows the defense, now. Team will continue to churn roster. Could make his way back in '14.
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Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 44s

#Texans have released OLB Ricky Sapp, who was on NFI list. Surprised they didn't wait for him to heal.
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Could mean the coaching staff likes what they see from the other guys?
:koolaid::koolaid::koolaid:
 
Playoffs said:
Just goes to show you the best "ability" is availability.

I wonder if he got the "gash around his ankle" the same night he mixed it up with that ex-singer gal he called the cops on???
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FIFY :boogereater:

So that's the guy with the gash around the ankle? :thinking::smiliepalm:
 
Jayson Braddock @JaysonBraddock · 30s

RT @McClain_on_NFL: Texans sign RB Tim Cornett and OT Mike Farrell. Waived LB Ricky Sapp. Put on IR injured G Cody White and WR Alan Bonner.
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Although he accomplished a 4.9 ypc av last year (and 5.1 with a torn shoulder labrum in 2012), Cornett's Draft Profile not very impressive:

Analysis

Strengths Thick, muscular build. Outstanding timed speed. Is tough and will play through injuries (battled through a torn left labrum as a junior). Very good weight-room worker. Terrific production -- UNLV's all-time leading rusher. Has kickoff-return experience.

Weaknesses Tight-hipped and straight-linish. Marginal power and tackle-breaking strength -- limited yards after contact. Minimal creativity to set up runs -- takes little more than the defense gives him. Runs tall and is easily turned on contact. Struggles to take the corner. Average balance and body control. Struggles negotiating through traffic. Does not play to his timed speed. Passive blocker.

Draft Projection Priority free agent

Bottom Line A one-cut zone runner lacking ideal balance and competitiveness desired on the front lines and the temperament for special teams. More of a workout warrior than football player at this stage of his development and will be challenged to produce against better competition. ...
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Farrell is an OB Penn State Adoptee who seemed to show great promise after OB took over.
 
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CloakNNNdagger said:
Although he accomplished a 4.9 ypc av last year (with 0 TDs) Cornett's Draft Profile not very impressive:

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Bottom Line A one-cut zone runner lacking ideal balance and competitiveness desired on the front lines and the temperament for special teams. More of a workout warrior than football player at this stage of his development and will be challenged to produce against better competition. ...
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That's a pretty harsh assessment right there.
 
Man, Briane Gaine & the scouts are putting some work in. Roster moves are kind of ridiculously high, seems like.

Rick said they have all of their scouts, college & pro, out working now with Texans having #1 spot on waiver wire.
 
ChampionTexan said:
Kind of.

Bonner and White will automatically revert to the Texans IR list unless the Texans reach an injury settlement with them. The injury settlement route is very likely to the the route the Texans go, but they can't just walk away without doing something more.

Williams situation is different because it relates to an injury incurred during a previous season. Different rules and remedies apply to that.
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Good points; yes it is quite a complicated process. Both White and Bonner are now on Houston's IR.
 
I actually liked Cornett coming out. He was one of my higher rated UDFA's. Definitely has the physical tools but needs some direction. It's worth noting that he signed with Arizona after the draft and already washed out.
 
Despite O'Brien's positive statements about Newton, does anyone else think that the two RT's signed in the past few days might suggest that maybe Newton hasn't shown the kind of improvement that O'Brien perhaps expected to see?

Clabo is a sloppy vet who can get it done Brisiel-style but I'd hate to see him in there as a starter by any means other than injury. The other kid, Ferrel I believe, is a known for the head coach.

I just have to wonder. I'm very, very curious to see how this plays out. My biggest fear is that our offensive line will not be good enough, from an ability standpoint, for us to execute the scheme well enough to keep QB#14 upright.
 
barrett said:
Despite O'Brien's positive statements about Newton, does anyone else think that the two RT's signed in the past few days might suggest that maybe Newton hasn't shown the kind of improvement that O'Brien perhaps expected to see?

Clabo is a sloppy vet who can get it done Brisiel-style but I'd hate to see him in there as a starter by any means other than injury. The other kid, Ferrel I believe, is a known for the head coach.

I just have to wonder. I'm very, very curious to see how this plays out. My biggest fear is that our offensive line will not be good enough, from an ability standpoint, for us to execute the scheme well enough to keep QB#14 upright.
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I don't know if signing 2 tackles is a sign of no confidence towards Newton. It is probably more a reflection of lack of OL depth following the loss of recent Quess and White.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
I don't know if signing 2 tackles is a sign of no confidence towards Newton. It is probably more a reflection of lack of OL depth following the loss of recent Quess and White.
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I just thought the timing seemed odd following a few days in pads. Quessenberry has been out for a bit. White, I can't remember for certain but I believe was an interior linemen, correct?

7/21 - B. Williams waived. (if I'm not mistaken, we knew his career was done last year. This was degenerative if I'm remembering correctly.)

7/25 - Quessenberry is IR'd and Clabo signed so that's a one for one I suppose.

7/29 - Farrell signed (after being found wandering in the wilderness)
 
barrett said:
Despite O'Brien's positive statements about Newton, does anyone else think that the two RT's signed in the past few days might suggest that maybe Newton hasn't shown the kind of improvement that O'Brien perhaps expected to see?

Clabo is a sloppy vet who can get it done Brisiel-style but I'd hate to see him in there as a starter by any means other than injury. The other kid, Ferrel I believe, is a known for the head coach.

I just have to wonder. I'm very, very curious to see how this plays out. My biggest fear is that our offensive line will not be good enough, from an ability standpoint, for us to execute the scheme well enough to keep QB#14 upright.
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Barrett,

New era. The back end of the roster will be continually turned over in an effort to gain any advantage possible, even if that is the 9th offensive lineman, who also improves the front line on the kick return team. I don't think we will see backups, who do not truly excel on special teams, survive the roster for 3+ years anymore. There is too much focus on genuine competition and too much belief in the quality/value of coaching for a player to simply maintain a backup role on the depth chart... Either he will be genuinely pushing the starter, a stud on special teams, or he won't survive a second training camp.
 
barrett said:
I just thought the timing seemed odd following a few days in pads. Quessenberry has been out for a bit. White, I can't remember for certain but I believe was an interior linemen, correct?
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Most accounts I've read have been positive about Newton in TC. Needs to work on consistency and technique but is now healthy enough to do so.
 
DocBar said:
Most accounts I've read have been positive about Newton in TC. Needs to work on consistency and technique but is now healthy enough to do so.
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I've read as much, also. That's why the moves stood out on my radar. (I have an actual radar)
 
dalemurphy said:
Barrett,

New era. The back end of the roster will be continually turned over in an effort to gain any advantage possible, even if that is the 9th offensive lineman, who also improves the front line on the kick return team. I don't think we will see backups, who do not truly excel on special teams, survive the roster for 3+ years anymore. There is too much focus on genuine competition and too much belief in the quality/value of coaching for a player to simply maintain a backup role on the depth chart... Either he will be genuinely pushing the starter, a stud on special teams, or he won't survive a second training camp.
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(bold added for emphasis)

I'm not sure we have enough information... but I'm hopeful that will be the case. There is no question that this staff has been very active, as many new staff's are.
 
barrett said:
I just thought the timing seemed odd following a few days in pads. Quessenberry has been out for a bit. White, I can't remember for certain but I believe was an interior linemen, correct?

7/21 - B. Williams waived. (if I'm not mistaken, we knew his career was done last year. This was degenerative if I'm remembering correctly.)

7/25 - Quessenberry is IR'd and Clabo signed so that's a one for one I suppose.

7/29 - Farrell signed (after being found wandering in the wilderness)
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White was IR'd on 07/28. If you remember in college, he was moved from TE to the offensive line during 2010 spring practice and played in all 11 games in the fall spending time at both tackle positions. He then started all 11 games in 2011 at left tackle and was part of a line that allowed only three sacks during the season. So just like Quess, he was counted on as depth at both G and OT if needed.
 
DocBar said:
Texans add a pair
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John McClain
Texans sign WR Joe Adams and OT Brice Schawb

WR Joe Adams played at Arkansas and was Carolina's 4th rd pick in 2013. Played at Edmonton this year. Also returns kickoffs.

OT Brice Schwab is 6-7, 302 and went 2 Arizona State. Signed with Bucs and also spent time with Pats last season on p squad. Adds depth 4 OL
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Adam Wexler @awexler
T Bryan Witzmann was #72. Suspect he’s waived,then IR(arm) RT

@DZangaro: #Texans new WR Joe Adams will wear #6. New OT Brice Schwab - #72
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James Palmer ‏@JPalmerCSN
Well I'm here at #texans practice & I don't see Trevardo Williams. With 2 new players at practice, him and T Bryan Witzmann are the moves
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Texans keep signing guys due to various injuries to keep roster active & full.
 
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I remember this Joe Adams from the Senior Bowl a couple years ago when he came out of Arkansas and was on his way to the NFL. Very talented, very exciting open field runner, after a catch or returning punts. However sounds like he's got some serious "ball security" issues, but still looks like O'Brien and staff looking for a return guy so they'll check him out.
 
IDEXAN said:
I remember this Joe Adams from the Senior Bowl a couple years ago when he came out of Arkansas and was on his way to the NFL. Very talented, very exciting open field runner, after a catch or returning punts. However sounds like he's got some serious "ball security" issues, but still looks like O'Brien and staff looking for a return guy so they'll check him out.
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Yep. He had a stroke in college too so that probably scared a lot of teams off.

Made a lot of plays though:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtd2pNdsWUU
 
IDEXAN said:
I remember this Joe Adams from the Senior Bowl a couple years ago when he came out of Arkansas and was on his way to the NFL. Very talented, very exciting open field runner, after a catch or returning punts. However sounds like he's got some serious "ball security" issues, but still looks like O'Brien and staff looking for a return guy so they'll check him out.
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Never hurts to kick the tires on these guys in TC and PS.
 
IDEXAN said:
I remember this Joe Adams from the Senior Bowl a couple years ago when he came out of Arkansas and was on his way to the NFL. Very talented, very exciting open field runner, after a catch or returning punts. However sounds like he's got some serious "ball security" issues, but still looks like O'Brien and staff looking for a return guy so they'll check him out.
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With Martin (with his ball security issues) still continuing to be auditioned for punt returner, you know that they are desperate.
 
Rick Smith should've been fired just on the results of that one draft. To already write that many draft selections off after just one year is beyond pathetic.
 
and yet the folks who do all the initial scouting and evaluating of talent are all still there doing what they do.....
 
Carr Bombed said:
Rick Smith should've been fired just on the results of that one draft. To already write that many draft selections off after just one year is beyond pathetic.
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As much as I blame this team's performance on Kubiak and bad coaching, once you get into the 3rd and 4th rounds, that's all on the GM.

I think Rick should have been kept after last year, to give him a chance to see what he's got away from Kubiak's shadow. But he needs to be on a REALLY short leash. And, yeah, that many players gone after one year is not acceptable. At all.

Kubiak was a terrible coach, but 3rd rounders failing (and overall lack of depth on the team) is all on the GM.
 
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