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DocBar said:
Thoughts from the good doctor?
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I think it's a good summary. My only more specific comment will go to the fact that we are going into this season full of unknowns, least of which are the number of players coming off of significant injuries, not all of which were mentioned in the article
 
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beerlover said:
Why not both, value and need? Should have been no brainer, especially investing heavily in franchise QB and current LT holding out over contract dispute.
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our current LT was not holding out at the time of the draft, and the QB wasn't drafted to start this year
 
TheRealJoker said:
Who is the best free agent signing in Texans' history? I'd say Johnathan Joseph :)

http://torotimes.com/2017/06/16/johnathan-joseph-best-free-agent-signing-in-houston-texans-history/
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Not sure if the first season players made available to new team [expansion] counts but Arron Glenn was pretty good but had less seasons so that gives Joseph the nod. :
He started 16 games at left cornerback, registering 75 tackles, 5 interceptions, 16 passes defensed and one sack. He and teammate Gary Walker became the first Texans to reach the NFL Pro Bowl in 2002.

In 2003, he started 11 games and was declared inactive in 2 because of injury, before being placed on the injured reserve list for the final 3 contests. He finished with 29 tackles, one interception and 16 passes defensed. The next year, he started 16 games, making 5 interceptions and 14 passes defensed. He was released because of salary cap reasons on April 26, 2005.
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http://www.nfl.com/player/aaronglenn/2500813/profile
 
badboy said:
Not sure if the first season players made available to new team [expansion] counts but Arron Glenn was pretty good but had less seasons so that gives Joseph the nod. : http://www.nfl.com/player/aaronglenn/2500813/profile
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Glenn was such a stud. I didn't consider him a free agent though because it was an expansion draft selection that got him here rather than the traditional player comes under his own free will option.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Glenn was such a stud. I didn't consider him a free agent though because it was an expansion draft selection that got him here rather than the traditional player comes under his own free will option.
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Glenn was exposed to the expansion draft which is the same as current day FA. He was expendable.

Casserly's best moves were the selection of Glenn and Coleman
 
JB said:
It was certainly his best draft move... if an easy selection. I used to wonder what he would have done if Rogers hadn't gone #2
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Given the Texans luck... probably the same thing they would have done had Aldon Smith been on the board in the 2011 draft.

Pass on an all time great!
 
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JB said:
our current LT was not holding out at the time of the draft, and the QB wasn't drafted to start this year
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Both you could see happening as distinct possibilitys.

My point is, Texans did not drill down deep enough to pivot long standing QB and OL needs.
 
Another meh article by Sarah Barshop. Nothing of substance.

Houston Texans add questions at QB by drafting Deshaun Watson
http://www.espn.com/blog/afcsouth/p...dd-questions-at-qb-by-drafting-deshaun-watson

The Houston Texans ended their offseason program on June 14. Here's a look at how they fared:

Offseason grade: The Texans will enter training camp with more question marks than they had when they ended last season. They made a big move to trade quarterback Brock Osweiler, named Tom Savage their starter -- for now at least -- and drafted the player they hope is the quarterback of their future, Deshaun Watson. But while trading up to the No. 12 pick to draft Watson was an exciting move, he might not have a huge impact on the Texans in 2017 if Savage wins the quarterback competition during training camp. The Texans also lost quite a few pieces during free agency, including defensive starters cornerback A.J. Bouye, safety Quintin Demps and outside linebacker John Simon. Houston did not replace any of the three with free-agent signings and also failed to fix its offensive line. The unit struggled last season and does not have a set starter at right tackle after the Texans put Derek Newton on injured reserve. The Texans still return the majority of last season's No. 1 defense, but it remains to be seen whether they have made enough improvements to an offense that struggled so much in 2016. Grade: C

Move I liked: Drafting Watson was a huge risk, and like most draft prospects, the Texans won't know for a few years whether the move was worth the high price tag. But the Texans have not had a stellar quarterback in the franchise's 15 seasons, and general manager Rick Smith clearly wanted to change that. By swinging for the fences and drafting Watson, Houston hopes to end the trend of quarterback troubles, as it has used eight starting quarterbacks over the past three seasons. The Texans will start the season with a different starting quarterback for the fifth straight season.

Move I didn't like: Bill O'Brien wanted the Texans to re-sign Bouye to a long-term contract before last season because he knew what he would command on the open market if he had a good season in 2016. Bouye chose to bet on himself, instead taking a one-year deal so he could be a free agent after the season. Bouye had a breakout season and was rewarded with a five-year, $67.5 million contract with the Jacksonville Jaguars. While that would have been a lot of money to spend at cornerback given the Texans already had veterans Johnathan Joseph and Kareem Jackson and 2015 first-round pick Kevin Johnson, Bouye was a valuable piece of the secondary in 2016 that finished the season ranked second in the league in passing yards. With over $34 million in cap space, the Texans could have brought Bouye back and still had money to spare.

Biggest question still to be answered in training camp: Can Watson beat out Savage at quarterback? At the end of the Texans' minicamp, O'Brien said Savage was the starter, but that he would have to continue to earn that job during training camp. Houston gave up a lot to trade up to draft Watson, and through the month-plus of offseason work he has participated in with the Texans, he has impressed the coaching staff. O'Brien said Watson still has a lot to learn, but he has made good progress in learning the offense and is getting better every day. It's still likely that Savage will open the season as the Texans' starter, but Watson will do his best to make it interesting during training camp.

Salary-cap space: $31,416,389 (source: Overthecap.com)

2017 draft picks: 1. QB Deshaun Watson, 2. ILB Zach Cunningham, 3. RB D'Onta Foreman, 4. OT Julién Davenport, 4. Carlos Watkins, 5. CB Treston Decoud, 7. C Kyle Fuller.

Undrafted rookie free agents signed: Eli Ankou, DT, UCLA; Erik Austell, C, Charleston Southern; Evan Baylis, TE, Oregon; Cory Carter, P, Texas Southern; Dylan Cole, ILB, Missouri State; Zach Conque, TE, Stephen F. Austin; T.J. Daniel, DE, Oregon; Matthew Godin, DE, Michigan; Deanté Gray, WR, Texas Christian; Justin Hardee, WR, Illinois; Rickey Hatley, NT, Missouri; Shaq Hill, WR, Eastern Washington; Bryce Jones, CB, Akron; Riley McCarron, WR, Iowa; Dare Ogunbowale, RB, Wisconsin; Dayon Pratt, OLB, East Carolina; Gimel President, OLB, Illinois; Daniel Ross; DE, Northeast Mississippi CC; Malik Smith, S, San Diego State; Chris Thompson, WR, Florida; Dee Virgin, CB, West Alabama; Avery Williams, ILB, Temple.

Unrestricted free agents signed: T Breno Giacomini, WR Dres Anderson, ILB Sio Moore.

Restricted free agents signed: None.

Players acquired via trade: None.
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Reader's one of my favorite "neophytes." After I saw the picture below, I looked for a couple other pics of him.

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He is severely knock-kneed. You wonder why this caught my eye? Well, in sports, being significantly knock-kneed is associated with significant risk of ACL ruptures. Women have a high incidence of knock knee. The angle of their hips plays a large role in this problem. Women tend to have wider hips and a more pronounced angle from hips tapering to their knees than men (Reader's anatomy is very much like this. You could appreciate this more if he was standing with his knees together.). This anatomical condition is why so many more women athletes are blessed with ACL ruptures than their male counterparts.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Reader's one of my favorite "neophytes." After I saw the picture below, I looked for a couple other pics of him.

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He is severely knock-kneed. You wonder why this caught my eye? Well, in sports, being significantly knock-kneed is associated with significant risk of ACL ruptures. Women have a high incidence of knock knee. The angle of their hips plays a large role in this problem. Women tend to have wider hips and a more pronounced angle from hips tapering to their knees than men (Reader's anatomy is very much like this. You could appreciate this more if he was standing with his knees together.). This anatomical condition is why so many more women athletes are blessed with ACL ruptures than their male counterparts.
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Has he ever had any knee injuries?
 
sandman said:
Has he ever had any knee injuries?
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Not that I am aware of, though he had less on-field experience than many in college. Just presenting a known significant risk association, further increased by a large upper body weight......not necessarily saying he will definitely see knee problems, especially at the very beginning of his career.
 
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Last year, Miller had a career high 268 carries for 1,073 yards and a 4.0 yards/carry..................tied for the lowest of his 5 year career.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Reader's one of my favorite "neophytes." After I saw the picture below, I looked for a couple other pics of him.

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He is severely knock-kneed. You wonder why this caught my eye? Well, in sports, being significantly knock-kneed is associated with significant risk of ACL ruptures. Women have a high incidence of knock knee. The angle of their hips plays a large role in this problem. Women tend to have wider hips and a more pronounced angle from hips tapering to their knees than men (Reader's anatomy is very much like this. You could appreciate this more if he was standing with his knees together.). This anatomical condition is why so many more women athletes are blessed with ACL ruptures than their male counterparts.
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I can think of one outlier of that theory who was arguably one of the two greatest if not the greatest QB to ever play the game.
 
TheRealJoker said:
Cushing good in coverage? This is where PFF has their issues.
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Before injuries wore him down the guy was an animal in coverage. There was a time when a young and healthy Brian Cushing, PEDs or not, was beyond awesome in coverage. He could lock up almost any tight end in the middle of the field.

Back when he was a healthy All-Pro talent there were no weaknesses in his game. He would fly around the field and make big-time plays. We'd likely have to go way back to 2011 for that. Last time he was named an All Pro. But he's 30 years old now and his body is beat up.

Still it's nice to see that chart display some impressive stats that show he's still good in coverage. A credit to how talented he has been for years. Injuries ruined what could have been a Hall of Fame career.

I remember a conversation I had with NFL Hall of Famer, Mike Singletary, back in 2010. He was signing autographs at Baylor one weekend. I asked him what he thought about Brian Cushing and the Houston Texans. He told me Cushing had a chance to become one of the all-time greats. Unfortunately injuries derailed his once promising career.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Reader's one of my favorite "neophytes." After I saw the picture below, I looked for a couple other pics of him.

He is severely knock-kneed. You wonder why this caught my eye? Well, in sports, being significantly knock-kneed is associated with significant risk of ACL ruptures. Women have a high incidence of knock knee. The angle of their hips plays a large role in this problem. Women tend to have wider hips and a more pronounced angle from hips tapering to their knees than men (Reader's anatomy is very much like this. You could appreciate this more if he was standing with his knees together.). This anatomical condition is why so many more women athletes are blessed with ACL ruptures than their male counterparts.
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Offseason reading:
Who gets to QB first? Competition between Watt, Clowney scary for offenses
http://www.espn.com/blog/houston-te...w-defense-will-evolve-with-return-of-j-j-watt

HOUSTON -- A season ago, the Houston Texans had the best defense in the NFL.

And that was without three-time NFL Defensive Player of the Year J.J. Watt.

In Watt's absence, Jadeveon Clowney, the No. 1 pick who had spent his first two NFL seasons dealing with injuries and was now finally healthy, played as the disruptive force the Texans saw when they drafted him in 2014.

Now with both players finishing the offseason activities healthy, the Texans hope to get both back at that level and able to intimidate opposing offenses together in 2017.

"The greatest thing about those two is that they are the ultimate competitors," defensive line coach Anthony Weaver said. "So I think whenever you have those two and Whitney Mercilus, they're all going to push each other to reach new heights. I know on the practice field, they're like, ‘I'm going to get there first. I'm getting to the quarterback first. I'm going to make more plays today.' And when you have that competition as a group, you just become better."

Last season without Watt on the field, head coach Bill O'Brien said that opposing teams were able to double-team Clowney and that, although it helped to have other guys -- Mercilus and Benardrick McKinney -- playing well, the Texans did focus on working on a game plan to free Clowney so he could continue to make disruptive plays.

But while Weaver said it's "absolutely not" as easy as just sliding Watt back into the lineup and expecting the defense to take a huge step forward, he made it clear that is on him and the rest of the coaching staff to figure out.

"Every time both guys are on the field together, we all become better as a unit," Weaver said. "There's no addition by subtraction because of J.J. Watt. Absolutely not.

"We're very fortunate that we have a bunch of dynamic players, but up front we have those three [Watt, Clowney and Mercilus] in particular. And it's up to us coaching-wise to make sure we put them in the best position to be successful. Sometimes that's not an easy task as it seems to be. But the expectations haven't changed. We know where we finished a year ago. We know what we expect out of our unit this season, and obviously having J.J. back is going to do nothing but help us achieve those goals."

Assistant head coach Romeo Crennel, who served as the Texans' defensive coordinator the past three seasons, said he and the coaching staff are looking forward to the problems the group presents to opposing teams with Watt, Clowney and Mercilus chasing the quarterback at the same time.

"I think we all know what J.J. brings to the table," Crennel said. "For opponents to try to figure out where they're going to send their protection: Do they send it to J.J.? Do they send it to Clowney? Exactly how they're going to do all that as far as from a protection standpoint, I think that's going to make it extremely difficult on the offense. So, if we can keep both of those guys healthy, and Whitney as well, I think it will be difficult for them."

Earlier in the offseason, when Watt did his first interviews since reinjuring his back and being ruled out for the rest of the season, his eyes lit up when he was asked about what the No. 1-in-2016 defense could do with him back on the field.

"We're really excited about it. Obviously, we have a lot of great pieces in place," Watt said. "We have a phenomenal defensive staff. We have phenomenal guys on the team, so it's all about just going out there and doing what we're able to do. I think a lot of it comes down to belief, and I think we see what we're capable of doing and then it comes down to believing that you can take another step and another step, and I think we have that level of belief now and I think it's only going to grow."
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JJ and then Clowney got used to "free lancing." JJ, as good as he was, left some big uncompensated holes that his teammates were not able to routinely plug. You can't have 2 free lancers on the field, unless you want to be left with one big uncoordinated defensive mess.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
JJ and then Clowney got used to "free lancing." JJ, as good as he was, left some big uncompensated holes that his teammates were not able to routinely plug. You can't have 2 free lancers on the field, unless you want to be left with one big uncoordinated defensive mess.
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I think you're using the term 'freelancing' to describe very different aspects. Watt was given almost complete freedom to do as he wished depending on the formation ... switch sides when he wished, ignore gap assignment to get into the backfield and so on. This is the biggest knock on Watt - he makes a mess of the scheme and leaves holes. He is especially an extreme liability in short yardage situations. Clowney was all over the place, but he was all over where he was told to be. Clowney's chaos was his coached reads and his ability to crush them. Sure he had some freedom, but comparing Clowney to Watt is like comparing an apple to ... FK you I'm an apple and do whatever the FK I want.
 
I wish Green packed half the punch with the Texans as he did with his 15-year-old daughter. I was debating whether to place this here or in the NFL section. If the Mods want to move this post, feel free.

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Former Packers RB Ahman Green charged with felony child abuse
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Former Packers running back Ahman Green was charged Monday with felony child abuse after his 15-year-old daughter told police he punched her in the face.

Online records show Green, 40, was booked into the jail Monday and charged with child abuse-intentionally causing harm and disorderly conduct for an incident that occurred Sunday.

Green appeared in court via teleconference from the Brown County Jail. A court commissioner ordered Green's release Monday on a $2,500 signature bond after ordering him to have no contact with his daughter or others who may have witnessed the incident.

Lee Schuchart, a public defender representing Green at Monday's appearance, called the incident "a constitutional issue'' involving "parental rights.''

He is next due in court on July 11.

According to the complaint report, Green's daughter alleges that her father punched her in the face after she refused to clean the dishes, a chore she was supposed to do to earn money. The daughter alleges Green also threw her to the ground and against the kitchen cabinets. He then forcefully made her put away silverware and after he let her go, the daughter told police Green "punched me in the face" while she was looking down. Police observed that Green's daughter's left eye was "swollen" and "slightly black and blue." Police also observed two minor scratches. The daughter said her shirt was ripped during the incident.

According to reports, Green told police that he "popped" his daughter by using an open palm to hit her ear but acknowledged that he might have also hit her glasses, causing the injuries around her left eye.

According to WBAY-TV, other people present in the home at the time of the incident witnessed Green picking his daughter up but didn't witness him punching her. WBAY-TV reported that Green's wife told police that the daughter had talked about making a call to authorities so her father would get into trouble with the law.

Records do not list a defense attorney. Lammi Sports Management, which has handled Green's appearances, had no immediate comment.

Green was inducted into the Packers Hall of Fame in 2014. He is the team's all-time leading rusher and a four-time Pro Bowl pick.

Green starred at Nebraska, then spent the first two seasons of his 12-year NFL career in Seattle. He played for Houston in 2007-08, but spent most of his career in Green Bay, his last season coming in 2009.
 
sandman said:
Moving back to Houston on Monday. Will be nice to read all these threads real time and not the next day. I'm tired of posting most of my sh!t while you guys are asleep. Especially with TC starting up in a few weeks.
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Just in time to enjoy our delightful July thru September summer weather.
But welcome back to H-Town Sandman !
 
Without a divine miracle or a complete collapse of all the teams on the Texans schedule this year, they ain't going nowhere with any QB.

And the divine miracle has better odds.
 
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