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Texans Player RUMOR Discussion
- Thread starter Texansballer74
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Reed played for Strausser. Their comfortable with the system. I'll bet you Reed makes the team.
This would be awesome.
Put Simmons and Ward together on the backend and that's special. One things fore sure, if they sign Simmons, Petrie is going to have true competition.
Reed played 1 year for Strausser in 2021. What system is he familiar with?
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
They cut Henderson and needed another interior OL for training camp. His contract indicates he is brought in to compete for a spot. A 10 year vet that has starting experience at every position on the interior OL is a quality player to bring in for camp competition.
Guys don’t just get their roster spots in the DeMeco era, they are going to have to earn them.
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
Would love this pairing. If Pitre has trouble adapting to DeMeco’s scheme this training camp I could see them making the move. Will not be any communication issues on the back end with Simmons and Ward.
Would also provide another dependable veteran in the secondary. Hard to count on an older vet DB for all 17 games. I’d treat players like this almost like a RB.
Number19
Hall of Fame
Naturally we can't anticipate injuries, but right now I have making the team:
Tunsil...LT
Green1...LG
Green2...LG
Scruggs...C
Patterson...C
Mason...RG
Fisher...swing T
Howard...RT
That's 8 with room for 2 more at most.
Broeker...RG
Dieter...G
Reed...G
Heck...swing T
And I think the team would like to find a way to keep, most likely on the PS, these 2 developmental players:
Henderson...G/T...rookie...(edit: cut)
Zierer...T...international player
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Not much choice for doing so with surgery................but likely will not be claimed on waivers and will be placed on our IR. Still probably unlikely we see him play this year.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Simmons is a big name for sure…but does he have juice left? I trust DeMeco 100%. If they sign him I trust he has game and thus I would be excited. Right now I think it’s purely rumor but it makes sense and I’ve advocated for it earlier in the off-season. And they have the dough to do it. I think the odds are actually decent that he ends up here.
Pitre could move into some sort of hybrid strong safety/nickel corner/coverage LB role. He loves to hit, loves to play close to the line. His weakness is coverage on deeper routes. So don’t put square pegs into round holes. Sign Simmons and now you’ve got major safety depth that goes 4 deep including the new kid on the block.
Pitre could move into some sort of hybrid strong safety/nickel corner/coverage LB role. He loves to hit, loves to play close to the line. His weakness is coverage on deeper routes. So don’t put square pegs into round holes. Sign Simmons and now you’ve got major safety depth that goes 4 deep including the new kid on the block.
TheRealJoker V2
Veteran
Pitre is at his best playing as close to a LB role as possible. Like the STAR position he excelled at with Baylor. You could get a three safety package with him/Simmons/Ward and Pitre is basically a 3rd LB on the field instead of To’o To’o.
Matter of fact, i’d expect them to try this to get Bullock on the field. We’ll need his range in coverage with the QBs on the schedule.
xtruroyaltyx
Hall of Fame
Saw Something on twitter that Pitre has been playing a lot of Nickel. Bringing in Simmons may say more about the corner back depth than it does about Pitre.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I don't want to see him on our injured report list as we will probably need it for move during the season.
Matt Burke talks about it here
2024 TRAINING CAMP DISCUSSION THREAD
Now that is what I was hoping for and expecting. He is going to be even stronger this season and hopefully has developed a couple more moves.
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CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
There is no limit to the number of players an NFL team can place on injured reserve , but there is a limit to how many can be designated to return
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
In Orlando, FL during the NFL’s annual league meeting, the owners approved a couple of adjustments made to the rules for injured reserve and designating players for return. Teams are now allowed to use up to two designations to return from injured reserve before final roster cutdowns. Previously, for a player to be eligible to return from injured reserve at some point during the season after a minimum of four games, he has to have been on the 53-man roster following final cutdowns for at least one day. If placed on injured reserve before that, his season would be over.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Only 8 at one time, correct ?
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
A max of 8 at any time during the regular season. But it's 10 max in total, 8 during the regular season plus 2 additional for the playoffs. If a team hasn't used any IR return designations during the regular season, then all 10 could be used for the playoffs. As CNNND mentioned, prior to this year, if a player went on IR before the season began, they would've been gone for that entire season (regular and playoffs). Now, up to 2 players can be designated for return on the final roster reduction day, but it will count against that team's 8 designations for the regular season.
badboy
Hall of Fame
That is my understanding and with the history we've had during the season with injuries, I expect the IR will again remain filled.
KoolAid Sipper
AFCEVET
Source: Texans signing veteran running back Cam Akers
Cam Akers worked out for Texans
www.click2houston.com
badboy
Hall of Fame
You beat me by 1 minute!Source: Texans signing veteran running back Cam Akers
Cam Akers worked out for Texans
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
No. The 8 is how many players can be designated to return during the regular season
badboy
Hall of Fame
Well, actually that makes my point. Why would we want to use one of those eight places on a guy like him? Would you not want to keep those spaces for more significant players? Perhaps I'm missing something.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Putting him on IR loses you nothing if he is never designated for return. You just maintain rights to the player.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Help me get this right. Week 6 and 8 are on IR and Stingley gets hurt and needs to go on IR but no room on 8 person list. Henderson would be removed probably with settlement and Stingley goes on IR. Is this the process? I get that some one else could return to roster.
I don't if this answer the question for you but,
NFL Announces Rule Change for Players Returning from Injured Reserve in 2024 Season
The NFL and NFL Players Association agreed to slightly altered injured reserve rules for the 2024 season that will allow teams to "designate for return" an…
bleacherreport.com
badboy
Hall of Fame
Thanks but no as I knew that. It allows 2 players to return during playoffs. I was PM'd some info that included yours but explained a bit more.Source: Texans signing veteran running back Cam Akers
Cam Akers worked out for Texans
It just seems to me that more than eight players were put on injured reserve and returned to the roster in 2023.
Edit this reply was supposed to be for AcresHome Texan
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
Something that is not understood by many is that teams do not have to designate which players can return from IR at the time they are placed on the IR list as they did many years ago.
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
I'm sorry, but it's difficult to understand what you are getting at, when you are apparently conflating the IR and IR designated for return.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I don't know how to explain any other way. Not worth spending more time but thanks to all.
I found this on the 2024 IR rules. Sorry for the novel.
2024 Rules:
The NFL and NFL Players Association agreed to slightly altered injured reserve rules for the 2024 season that will allow teams to "designate for return" an additional two players in the postseason, alongside the already permitted eight players in the regular season, per NFL Network's Tom Pelissero.
If a team hasn't designated any players for return during the regular season, it could do so for up to 10 players in the postseason. If it has hit its eight-player limit during the regular season, it would only be granted two additional designations in the playoffs. In essence, the limit is 10 total designations between the regular season and postseason, with the cap of eight during the regular season.
Players can be designated for return up to twice in a season, but each instance counts against the team's total allocations.
When a player is put on injured reserve, they don't count against a team's 53-man roster. Previously, if they were put on IR before the season begins, they were lost for the year. However, up to two players can be designated for return on the final roster reduction day, which will count against a team's eight total return designations during the regular season.
The two postseason designations are new, as are the two allowable designations for return on roster cutdown day.
When players are designated for return, they must remain on injured reserve for at least four games. After a player is cleared to practice, they have a 21-day window to return to the active roster or they will be put on season-ending injured reserve.
The IR list is not the same as the active/physically unable to perform list, or PUP. Players under that designation remain on the active roster during training camp and are able to do any team activities outside of practicing or playing in games.
As teams trim rosters, a player could be moved from the active/PUP list to the reserve/PUP list. Players on reserve/PUP don't count against the roster but have to sit out the first four games of the season.
2024 Rules:
The NFL and NFL Players Association agreed to slightly altered injured reserve rules for the 2024 season that will allow teams to "designate for return" an additional two players in the postseason, alongside the already permitted eight players in the regular season, per NFL Network's Tom Pelissero.
If a team hasn't designated any players for return during the regular season, it could do so for up to 10 players in the postseason. If it has hit its eight-player limit during the regular season, it would only be granted two additional designations in the playoffs. In essence, the limit is 10 total designations between the regular season and postseason, with the cap of eight during the regular season.
Players can be designated for return up to twice in a season, but each instance counts against the team's total allocations.
When a player is put on injured reserve, they don't count against a team's 53-man roster. Previously, if they were put on IR before the season begins, they were lost for the year. However, up to two players can be designated for return on the final roster reduction day, which will count against a team's eight total return designations during the regular season.
The two postseason designations are new, as are the two allowable designations for return on roster cutdown day.
When players are designated for return, they must remain on injured reserve for at least four games. After a player is cleared to practice, they have a 21-day window to return to the active roster or they will be put on season-ending injured reserve.
The IR list is not the same as the active/physically unable to perform list, or PUP. Players under that designation remain on the active roster during training camp and are able to do any team activities outside of practicing or playing in games.
As teams trim rosters, a player could be moved from the active/PUP list to the reserve/PUP list. Players on reserve/PUP don't count against the roster but have to sit out the first four games of the season.
Just to clarify as far as I can tell a team does not have to designate that a player will return when he is put on IR but can wait at least 4 games to do it. I can't find it spelled out exactly but i did find this.
"After four games, a player may be designated to return, which opens a 21-day window during which they can attend practices but are still not counted on the active roster. If they are not activated to the roster during this period, they must remain on IR for the rest of the season."
"After four games, a player may be designated to return, which opens a 21-day window during which they can attend practices but are still not counted on the active roster. If they are not activated to the roster during this period, they must remain on IR for the rest of the season."
CloakNNNdagger
Hall of Fame
This statement is taken out of context......................a player may be given the designation to return after 1 week on IR or after10 weeks on IR...........they can then return 4 weeks any time after 4 games are missed [consecutively] while on IR. If the player has missed 4 games prior to being placed on IR, those weeks don't count in calculating designated return.
This is what you were looking for:
welsh texan
You may say I’m a dreamer but I’m not the only one
Bad boy I think you’ve got the wrong end of the stick. Each team can still place an unlimited number of players on IR during the season. They are now allowed to bring 8 of them back from IR to play again if healthy.
It doesn’t seem that long ago that IR meant done for the season, it’s good that stars can return to play if possible, and it removes the need to carry players on the active roster who may be out for an extended period but will be back before the end of the season.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I get the end of the stick that is hitting me and I think that is the wrong end. LOL mom would send me after a switch off the Chinaberry tree and I just kept on going hoping she would forget when I came in later that night.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Only 8 max (regular season) can return from IR but you don’t have to choose who those players are when you place them on IR. This increases to 10 if you make the postseason.
When a team decides that they want one of their IR players to return, only then is he assigned the tag “designated to return”, provided the team hasn’t hit their max. Once designated, there’s a 21 day window to activate to the 53 man. Player can be activated at any time within that window.
No player can return from IR until 4 games have passed from when they were placed on IR.
Up to 2 players can return from IR if placed on IR before final roster cuts. Those who return count against the 8/10 max. Players on IR precut can not return until a teams 5th game of the regular season at the earliest. Preseason games do not count towards the 4 game minimum a player must miss when placed on IR.
When a team decides that they want one of their IR players to return, only then is he assigned the tag “designated to return”, provided the team hasn’t hit their max. Once designated, there’s a 21 day window to activate to the 53 man. Player can be activated at any time within that window.
No player can return from IR until 4 games have passed from when they were placed on IR.
Up to 2 players can return from IR if placed on IR before final roster cuts. Those who return count against the 8/10 max. Players on IR precut can not return until a teams 5th game of the regular season at the earliest. Preseason games do not count towards the 4 game minimum a player must miss when placed on IR.