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Texans hire Bill O'Brien as HC

Hopefully he doesn't fall into the trap Josh McDaniels did, cutting a lot of fat, but eventually cutting so much that you pissed off everyone on the roster.

It's funny, "everybody" is taking about the Patriots model of dumping aging expensive players... that they'd "cut Brady as soon as he stops being Brady." Truth of the matter is they wouldn't. They're more likely to trade him for young talent & draft picks. I doubt they'll send him out to find his own trade.

They didn't dump Seymour. They traded him for the Raiders 2011 #1 pick.

They didn't dump Mankins. They traded him for Tampa's 2014 fourth round pick & a promising TE.

We cut Chris Meyers. Known as one of the best centers in the league. May not be well liked around here & more teams incorporate ZB than not. But we got nothing.

We've done told everyone we're not taking a $16M cap hit for Andre, but we expect to get something of value for him in return.....

The Patriot way:gotcha:
 
It's funny, "everybody" is taking about the Patriots model of dumping aging expensive players... that they'd "cut Brady as soon as he stops being Brady." Truth of the matter is they wouldn't. They're more likely to trade him for young talent & draft picks. I doubt they'll send him out to find his own trade.

They didn't dump Seymour. They traded him for the Raiders 2011 #1 pick.

They didn't dump Mankins. They traded him for Tampa's 2014 fourth round pick & a promising TE.

We cut Chris Meyers. Known as one of the best centers in the league. May not be well liked around here & more teams incorporate ZB than not. But we got nothing.

We've done told everyone we're not taking a $16M cap hit for Andre, but we expect to get something of value for him in return.....

The Patriot way:gotcha:

And you know they didn't try to trade Myers? I don't think anyone with the Texans has said anything about trading him.
 
And you know they didn't try to trade Myers? I don't think anyone with the Texans has said anything about trading him.

I'm not saying they tried or didn't... I'm saying he's gone & we got nothing.

If I were to speculate I would say Belichick would have got a 7th two drafts into the future at the very least.

The point is that New England didn't just ditch aging players, they got compensated for them.

We're just thinning an already talent deficient roster.

Our team is weaker from a talent perspective without Andre Johnson. Same as New England's was when they traded Richard Seymour. However, New England was compensated with cap space & a 1st round pick which they used to add to their talent pool.

Our team is weaker from a talent perspective without Chris Meyers. Same as New England's was when they traded Logan Mankins. However, New England was compensated with cap space, a young TE, & a fourth round pick which they used to add to their talent pool.

Kinda like the argument 'cak has been having with Texian for the last couple of years. Texian appreciates that Jacksonville & Tennessee has more cap space than we do. They've had more cap space than us for the last five years. But we've had more talent.

One of those things helps their team win, the other doesn't.

We're stocking up on cap space... but our talent level is shrinking as well. We're purposely moving our team in the direction of the Jacksonville Jaguars.
 
I'm not saying they tried or didn't... I'm saying he's gone & we got nothing.

If I were to speculate I would say Belichick would have got a 7th two drafts into the future at the very least.

The point is that New England didn't just ditch aging players, they got compensated for them.

We're just thinning an already talent deficient roster.

Our team is weaker from a talent perspective without Andre Johnson. Same as New England's was when they traded Richard Seymour. However, New England was compensated with cap space & a 1st round pick which they used to add to their talent pool.

Our team is weaker from a talent perspective without Chris Meyers. Same as New England's was when they traded Logan Mankins. However, New England was compensated with cap space, a young TE, & a fourth round pick which they used to add to their talent pool.

Kinda like the argument 'cak has been having with Texian for the last couple of years. Texian appreciates that Jacksonville & Tennessee has more cap space than we do. They've had more cap space than us for the last five years. But we've had more talent.

One of those things helps their team win, the other doesn't.

We're stocking up on cap space... but our talent level is shrinking as well. We're purposely moving our team in the direction of the Jacksonville Jaguars.

Let's wait at least until FA starts, see what kind of plan they have in place there and the draft to address the roster before concluding we're a worse team. IT's early March, don't matter what's on the roster right now
 
If he brings success, then all of this will be genius in hindsight.

However, Houston fans have short fuses right now, and this A.J. situation is lighting many of those fuses.

It will certainly get ugly if the Texans go into a "rebuild slump" for a couple of seasons.



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Yep. And if we are honest about evaluating the 2014 season, it came down to two players: J.J. and Arian Foster.

Without Foster's production, this is a 5 win team last year, at best. O'Brien had better hope and prepare for Foster's eventual decline as an NFL RB. It usually happens fairly quickly, too.

And personally, from here on out, when Bob McNaire spews nonsense about "legacy player" and "retire a Texan" regarding J.J. Watt, I'll consider it more marketing propaganda that has as much weight as a worthless politician. Billion Dollar Bob is now just like the other 31 owners to me. Money before integrity, bullshit before honesty. I feel kinda' stupid for believing his crapola all these years. I knew better, too, but wanted to have just a sliver of idealism in a mercenary sport. No more of that delusion. It is what it is. Go laundry!

Glad to see that times are changing. It is what it is, all about $$$$. People don't become billionaires without this mindset. Sad but true.
 
Let's wait at least until FA starts, see what kind of plan they have in place there and the draft to address the roster before concluding we're a worse team. IT's early March, don't matter what's on the roster right now

Yup, gotta wait for the other half of the equation - what they do with the cap space.
 
O’Brien ends Texans’ old era as Johnson walks away
Brian T. Smith
Bill O’Brien: The Texans belong to you.

Bob McNair still owns the team. Rick Smith remains the general manager. But the moment Andre Johnson walked away, asking Monday for a trade or his release, O’Brien took total control.

The old ways are over. The new world has begun.

These are O’Brien’s Texans. He shaped them into his image in 2014, via instant culture change and resilient, gutsy play. Now, they’re being hammered to fit the unbreakable constraints of the NFL’s hard salary cap and the unflinching reality that better, stronger franchises embraced years ago.

The NFL is cold. The NFL is unforgiving. The NFL is absolutely ruthless. Pro football doesn’t care who you are, what you did or what you still hope to become. Steve Smith (Carolina for 12 years, Baltimore for one) is living proof. As are hundreds of players – statistics and values, not names – annually shredded by the salary cap grinder.

This is why Seattle and New England – the only pro team O’Brien saw from the inside out before moving his life to Houston – are football powerhouses. This is why the initial lasting image of Johnson’s erasure – as one-sided and incomplete as it may be – was so jarring to Texans devotees, who have long been used to complacency.
 
Are you optimistic and if so why?

I am. Because I have hope that OB has a plan in place unlike Kubiak and Capers to address the roster of this team. If I was as sure as you that they wouldn't take care of it, I wouldn't waste my time being a fan.


Except I'm a native Houstonian and I think they put something in the water to make us all as gullible and hopeful fans you could find in Texas.

What other choice at this point in time do we have but be optimistic? I'm not going to feel shitty cuz maybe they'll fail. I'm not going to expect or hope for them to, I'm going to expect and hope that we're in the 2017 SB
 
I am. Because I have hope that OB has a plan in place unlike Kubiak and Capers to address the roster of this team. If I was as sure as you that they wouldn't take care of it, I wouldn't waste my time being a fan.


Except I'm a native Houstonian and I think they put something in the water to make us all as gullible and hopeful fans you could find in Texas.

What other choice at this point in time do we have but be optimistic? I'm not going to feel shitty cuz maybe they'll fail. I'm not going to expect or hope for them to, I'm going to expect and hope that we're in the 2017 SB

You've got me wrong.

I think/hope BOB will have successas long as Cal/Rick stay out of the personnel decisions. The last couple of days has given me more hope. It really will all come down to 2 things.

1. Winning on the field.
2. What's done with the new found cap room to ensure #1 happens.
 
Are you optimistic and if so why?

I'm not Cak but I am pretty optimistic, but I'm always pretty optimistic.

I don't know if last season was OB just getting his feet wet or if Smith had more say until OB proved himself or what, but these moves look to me like OB has taken control and now he's doing the full-on rebuild that he might have wanted to do last season.

He's clearing the cap space and I think we're going to see him going and trying to get the guys to run his offensive system the way he wants to run it and probably the defensive guys RAC wants. I think Mallett's going to be a big part of that.

So, I'm excited and optimistic.
 
I'm not Cak but I am pretty optimistic, but I'm always pretty optimistic.

I don't know if last season was OB just getting his feet wet or if Smith had more say until OB proved himself or what, but these moves look to me like OB has taken control and now he's doing the full-on rebuild that he might have wanted to do last season.

He's clearing the cap space and I think we're going to see him going and trying to get the guys to run his offensive system the way he wants to run it and probably the defensive guys RAC wants. I think Mallett's going to be a big part of that.

So, I'm excited and optimistic.

I think we are looking at Fitz & Clabo being cut, saving almost 5 mil.
 
They are analyzing who might be freee agents in the next 2 coming years, clearing the cap so we can make room for that potential and then make a glorious run in 2017. And be the first team to play in their hometown for the Super Bowl :kitten:
 
Are you optimistic and if so why?

I'm optimistic overall. I'd be a lot more so if Mallett was inked. I said last season I wouldn't mind them going one season unsettled at QB but not two.

I wasn't as down on the team OB inherited or came into this offseason as you. I generally have a hopeful cautious optimism. On individual decisions didn't like everything the last regime did (eg i thought getting rid of DeMeco and Quinn were screw ups) and won't like everything this one does. And on both I'll defend what I see as exaggerated or specious criticism.

This is year 2. Kubiak struggled getting his O in with Carr. Hopefully we'll see OB pass through his Fitz year and find his Schaub in Mallett. As you know from the very early discussions about Mallett as a possibility I think he has.
 
I'm optimistic overall. I'd be a lot more so if Mallett was inked. I said last season I wouldn't mind them going one season unsettled at QB but not two.

I wasn't as down on the team OB inherited or came into this offseason as you. I generally have a hopeful cautious optimism. On individual decisions didn't like everything the last regime did (eg i thought getting rid of DeMeco and Quinn were screw ups) and won't like everything this one does. And on both I'll defend what I see as exaggerated or specious criticism.

This is year 2. Kubiak struggled getting his O in with Carr. Hopefully we'll see OB pass through his Fitz year and find his Schaub in Mallett. As you know from the very early discussions about Mallett as a possibility I think he has.

We agree on everything but the talent level left BOB. If the talent level left was so high then there should be less holes to fill than there are.

I'm really intersted in seeing what happens in FA with all of this cap space. That's Gaine/BOB's domain.
 
We agree on everything but the talent level left BOB. If the talent level left was so high then there should be less holes to fill than there are.

I'm really intersted in seeing what happens in FA with all of this cap space. That's Gaine/BOB's domain.

I think every team has holes. The point of coaching is to make the most of your good parts, minimize the bad parts & win football games. This team won 12 games in 2012, nine games in 2014... all without a QB.

I was hoping Mallett or Savage would step up as our QB & we'd be play off contenders... maybe win the division... maybe win in Indy.

Now, I'll be like a lot of you guys were last year, "Ah... we're rebuilding. Winning's not important. Wait 'till OB gets his TE, his WR, his RB, his Center, his pass rush, his secondary... just wait."

Maybe next year.
 
Daniel Gotera @DTGoteraKHOU
Bill O'Brien very involved with Special Olympics: "Any time you can put a smile on these kids faces, it means a lot to these kids." #Texans

Bill O'Brien on Kareem Jackson: "He's a heck of a football player and he's a great person." #Texans

Bill O'Brien with Mike Munchak, Bruce Matthews and Elvin Bethea tonight at an event for Special Olympics

O'Brien says they try best they can to keep "core players" together and Kareem (Jackson) & Derek (Newton) are 2 guys that are core players

O'Brien on Andre Johnson: "I have a ton of respect for Andre. Andre did everything we asked him to do and then some." #Texans

Bill O'Brien on Texans off-season: "It's a very fluid situation. Every decision we make is trying to point towards winning."

Houston Texans head coach Bill O'Brien says life is always busy in the NFL. Well, the week his football team just went through is a perfect example of it.

"We're just trying to put together as competitive of a football team as we can," O'Brien said Sunday.

The first steps in doing just that were taken when the team elected to re-sign corner back Kareem Jackson and offensive lineman Derek Newton over the weekend.

Jackson received a 4-year, $34 million deal while Newton signed a 5-year, $26.5 million contract.

"What we try to do is do the best we can to keep our core players together," O'Brien said. "Kareem and Derek are two guys that are core players."

Along with being those "core players", O'Brien says the two exemplify what the organization is looking for when they evaluate future additions to their locker room.

"I think it's a great example of hard work and perseverance," O'Brien said. "Guys that come into this organization and are good citizens, and play hard and do everything they're asked of, they're going to get rewarded and that's what happened to Kareem and Derek."

That "core player" distinction is an interesting one. Many would argue wide receiver Andre Johnson and center Chris Myers fit that same description. There is, however, one noticeable difference.

Youth.

O'Brien had nothing but great things to say about the two veterans the team is parting ways with, especially when it comes to Johnson. Despite the assertions the wide receiver has made publicly about being asked to take a "reduced role" in the upcoming 2015 season, O'Brien appreciates what #80 brought to the team.

"I've said this over and over again, Andre Johnson will go down as one of the best receivers to ever play this game," O'Brien said. "I have a ton of respect for Andre. Andre did everything we asked him to do and then some, just a great player. He'll always be a Houston Texan."

The Texans continue to be linked to several free agents, but quarterback continues to be the one position everyone is looking at.

O'Brien didn't comment directly about their pursuit of a signal caller only to hint that the team is always open to multiple options.

"It's a fluid situation. Every decision we make is trying to point towards winning," O'Brien said. "Every hour it changes, who's out there, who's available. Everything we do we try to think about the most competitive roster we can have."

The Texans head coach was a guest at an event benefiting the Special Olympics, an organization which the O'Brien family has strong ties to dating back to his days at Penn State.

"It hits close to home for us," O'Brien said. "Our son Jack was born with a disability. Any time you can put a smile on these kids faces, it means a lot to these kids."
 
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So much respect for Andre that he asked him to get his role reduced to 40 catches this season just so Andre can want out and the team can get out from under that albatross contract.

Such respect.

What's he supposed to say? "We hate his guts and can't wait to kick his ass out of town!"

It's coach speak, nobody wants to ruffle feathers or divulge anything. You take things way too literally, lighten up, Francis.
 
What's he supposed to say? "We hate his guts and can't wait to kick his ass out of town!"

It's coach speak, nobody wants to ruffle feathers or divulge anything. You take things way too literally, lighten up, Francis.

But O'Brien is supposed to be this straight shooter...
:toropalm:
 
What's he supposed to say? "We hate his guts and can't wait to kick his ass out of town!"

It's coach speak, nobody wants to ruffle feathers or divulge anything. You take things way too literally, lighten up, Francis.

How about trade him or cut him *then* say "We felt Andre Johnson's contract was too expensive to keep on the books in order for us to field the team we wanted to field."

But of course, Coach Speak rules the day, especially with our awesome new direction.

For being from Texas, a lot of you sure are content lapping up verbal bullshit. Thought you guys were straight shooters. Guess not. Of course, I'm all about honesty and being straightforward. I don't like being bullshitted and I don't like having my intelligence insulted. And I sure as dick don't like deciphering puzzles from losers in places of leadership when they can just as easily be straight up and not emulate the unlikable assholes from which they were emptied out of.
 
How about trade him or cut him *then* say "We felt Andre Johnson's contract was too expensive to keep on the books in order for us to field the team we wanted to field."

But of course, Coach Speak rules the day, especially with our awesome new direction.

For being from Texas, a lot of you sure are content lapping up verbal bullshit. Thought you guys were straight shooters. Guess not. Of course, I'm all about honesty and being straightforward. I don't like being bullshitted and I don't like having my intelligence insulted. And I sure as dick don't like deciphering puzzles from losers in places of leadership when they can just as easily be straight up and not emulate the unlikable assholes from which they were emptied out of.

Dude he was at the special Olympics not a press conference. Not the time or place to be talking about the nuances of his contract or the salary cap.
 
How about trade him or cut him *then* say "We felt Andre Johnson's contract was too expensive to keep on the books in order for us to field the team we wanted to field."

But of course, Coach Speak rules the day, especially with our awesome new direction.

For being from Texas, a lot of you sure are content lapping up verbal bullshit. Thought you guys were straight shooters. Guess not. Of course, I'm all about honesty and being straightforward. I don't like being bullshitted and I don't like having my intelligence insulted. And I sure as dick don't like deciphering puzzles from losers in places of leadership when they can just as easily be straight up and not emulate the unlikable assholes from which they were emptied out of.

I just realized you're a satire writer, well played. :clap:
 
How about trade him or cut him *then* say "We felt Andre Johnson's contract was too expensive to keep on the books in order for us to field the team we wanted to field."

But of course, Coach Speak rules the day, especially with our awesome new direction.

The direction has been pretty nice thus far. I'm enjoying it.

For being from Texas, a lot of you sure are content lapping up verbal bullshit.

That was what you did with Kubiak my friend. OB is just getting started, and you aren't wanting to give him a chance. Kubiak is still coaching in this league and you are free to root for them and their direction if you'd like. But once this team gets a QB, it will be a fun one to follow.

Thought you guys were straight shooters. Guess not. Of course, I'm all about honesty and being straightforward. I don't like being bullshitted and I don't like having my intelligence insulted. And I sure as dick don't like deciphering puzzles from losers in places of leadership when they can just as easily be straight up and not emulate the unlikable assholes from which they were emptied out of.

Such wise words and wisdom.
 
But O'Brien is supposed to be this straight shooter...
:toropalm:

I'm not understanding this yearning from some of you to latch onto this idea that OB has somehow BS'd AJ and ran from the situation along with the Texans management. This is how they have always been since OB arrived. They don't let jack carry on over to the media. They keep everything in house and they don't want anything leaked. They do a really good job of it too. OB isn't going to get into some back and forth "he said she said" drama with a heroic player of this franchise when he is about to go to some other franchise. What would he gain right now by doing that? He is doing what he always does and he is giving short answers and is straight shooting. He is straight shooting to the point that he isn't going to discuss internal disagreements with players to the media along with any other team business between management and their guys.
 
I'm not understanding this yearning from some of you to latch onto this idea that OB has somehow BS'd AJ and ran from the situation along with the Texans management. This is how they have always been since OB arrived. They don't let jack carry on over to the media. They keep everything in house and they don't want anything leaked. They do a really good job of it too. OB isn't going to get into some back and forth "he said she said" drama with a heroic player of this franchise when he is about to go to some other franchise. What would he gain right now by doing that? He is doing what he always does and he is giving short answers and is straight shooting. He is straight shooting to the point that he isn't going to discuss internal disagreements with players to the media along with any other team business between management and their guys.

So this is just a matter of O'Brien keeping his cards close to the vest.
okay... makes a little sense. I'll go with that for now.
 
Our awesomely cool lead moderator deleted my post again, so I'll say again for you to not call me your friend again because I'd rather be friends with Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi than somebody like you.

And I also posted a link (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2280358&postcount=961) to that post I made that one time that you never replied to with all those posts showing how much I criticized Kubiak and I asked why you seemingly have this narrative about me that you keep peddling even though it's patently untrue. It's a bizarre fetish on your part. One of the most peculiar courses of action I've ever witnessed in my time using and moderating message boards. Quite the pathology, there.

I also stated that I've afforded Bill O'Brien the chance to wow me (as I stated multiple times before, which you undoubtedly haven't missed since you and your friend steelbluetexan seem to take a particular interest in my postings) but that doesn't mean I won't criticize him when he needs to be criticized and that doesn't mean that one year in charge has not given us many points of criticism to make, not to offend the delicate sensibilities of those who have entrenched themselves in the cult.
 
The direction has been pretty nice thus far. I'm enjoying it.



That was what you did with Kubiak my friend. OB is just getting started, and you aren't wanting to give him a chance. Kubiak is still coaching in this league and you are free to root for them and their direction if you'd like. But once this team gets a QB, it will be a fun one to follow.

Kubiak's team was pretty damn good until Schaub fell apart at the seams .... and OB has a long way to go to approach Kubiak's success with the Texans much less the success he achieved elsewhere.
I'm excited to see what he does in Denver with a hall of fame QB.


Sure would be nice if this QB guru OB would manufacture a pro bowl quarterback out of one of the current options .... Damn I miss a healthy Schaub.
 
Kubiak's team was pretty damn good until Schaub fell apart at the seams .... and OB has a long way to go to approach Kubiak's success with the Texans much less the success he achieved elsewhere.
I'm excited to see what he does in Denver with a hall of fame QB.


Sure would be nice if this QB guru OB would manufacture a pro bowl quarterback out of one of the current options .... Damn I miss a healthy Schaub.
I miss Warren Moon.
 
Sure would be nice if this QB guru OB would manufacture a pro bowl quarterback out of one of the current options .... Damn I miss a healthy Schaub.

Fitzpatrick career QB Rating = 79.5

Fitzpatrick QB Rating under O'Brien = 95.3


Perhaps if we can acquire some talent at the QB position he will do just that. He seems to be going in the right direction so far.
 
Fitzpatrick career QB Rating = 79.5

Fitzpatrick QB Rating under O'Brien = 95.3


Perhaps if we can acquire some talent at the QB position he will do just that. He seems to be going in the right direction so far.

A little OT.

I thought Jacksonville was doing the right thing last season when they canned Gabbert, kept Henne, & drafted Bortles, saying Bortles would take a red shirt year.

Jed Fisch was a total unknown at the OC position. Well, he was Jacksonville's OC the year before & they were atrocious. I figured he probably blamed it on the OL, blamed it on the RB, blamed it on the QB, everything, but his inability to assess what he had, develop a plan for success, & teach the needed skills to execute that plan.

If I were Jacksonville, I'd have given him a complete offseason with Henne (who I still like as a competent QB), let him install his offense & if he could show me he could put together a competent offense with Henne, then I'd allow him to insert Bortles. I don't know what made them decide to ditch that plan so early. I'd have made him stick with Henne until the second half of the season like Tennessee did.

Changing QBs signaled failure of the QB coach, the OC, or both & I wouldn't have given them my brand new QB.

All that to say, what OB did with Fitz was enough for me to trust him with a young QB. Whether that guy is the QB of the future or our next stop gap.
 
The direction has been pretty nice thus far. I'm enjoying it.



That was what you did with Kubiak my friend. OB is just getting started, and you aren't wanting to give him a chance. Kubiak is still coaching in this league and you are free to root for them and their direction if you'd like. But once this team gets a QB, it will be a fun one to follow.



Such wise words and wisdom.

You can be both honest (straight shooter) and tactful. It comes with choosing your words carefully rather than speaking incessantly about things you really don't know about but think you do. Conversely, you don't share everything you know, but only that which edifies.

I'm honest, but I don't have the tact down. But I at least try to make a distinction between what I know and what I speculate about.
 
Our awesomely cool lead moderator deleted my post again, so I'll say again for you to not call me your friend again because I'd rather be friends with Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi than somebody like you.

And I also posted a link (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2280358&postcount=961) to that post I made that one time that you never replied to with all those posts showing how much I criticized Kubiak and I asked why you seemingly have this narrative about me that you keep peddling even though it's patently untrue. It's a bizarre fetish on your part. One of the most peculiar courses of action I've ever witnessed in my time using and moderating message boards. Quite the pathology, there.

I also stated that I've afforded Bill O'Brien the chance to wow me (as I stated multiple times before, which you undoubtedly haven't missed since you and your friend steelbluetexan seem to take a particular interest in my postings) but that doesn't mean I won't criticize him when he needs to be criticized and that doesn't mean that one year in charge has not given us many points of criticism to make, not to offend the delicate sensibilities of those who have entrenched themselves in the cult.

I disagree with Matrix about Bill O'Brien but completely agree with him about infantrycak as moderator. infantrycak is the worst moderator that I have ever come across, even worse than Bob in Houston from the hornfans.com basketball board.
 
You can be both honest (straight shooter) and tactful. It comes with choosing your words carefully rather than speaking incessantly about things you really don't know about but think you do. Conversely, you don't share everything you know, but only that which edifies.

I'm honest, but I don't have the tact down. But I at least try to make a distinction between what I know and what I speculate about.

Would you like to get to the point here?
 
I disagree with Matrix about Bill O'Brien but completely agree with him about infantrycak as moderator. infantrycak is the worst moderator that I have ever come across, even worse than Bob in Houston from the hornfans.com basketball board.

So.
 
Our awesomely cool lead moderator deleted my post again, so I'll say again for you to not call me your friend again because I'd rather be friends with Abu Bakr Al-Baghdadi than somebody like you.

And I also posted a link (http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2280358&postcount=961) to that post I made that one time that you never replied to with all those posts showing how much I criticized Kubiak and I asked why you seemingly have this narrative about me that you keep peddling even though it's patently untrue. It's a bizarre fetish on your part. One of the most peculiar courses of action I've ever witnessed in my time using and moderating message boards. Quite the pathology, there.

And before that, how many times and instances did you come in here screaming with the typical curse words and insults to defend Smithiak for years and years? You can't erase that history no matter how much you'd like to. Hell, you're still acting like he's some legend, which is why I'm not sure why you're still following this team. You hate OB, and anything that comes here from NE, and have so much faith and confidence in Kubiak. You aren't from Houston, so why not jump on the bandwagon over there? Tons of talent on the Broncos right now.

I also stated that I've afforded Bill O'Brien the chance to wow me (as I stated multiple times before, which you undoubtedly haven't missed since you and your friend steelbluetexan seem to take a particular interest in my postings) but that doesn't mean I won't criticize him when he needs to be criticized and that doesn't mean that one year in charge has not given us many points of criticism to make, not to offend the delicate sensibilities of those who have entrenched themselves in the cult.


Again, if you hate this ride then pick another one. You clearly aren't allowing any type of multiple seasons to play out to see what type of roster this team ends up being any way. According to your own words you are likely to hate everything we do due to the many ties we have to NE. As a fan, you're ****ed, and that sucks. Even if we're successful, it sounds like you'll still be one PO'd fan.
 
Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays?.....










... No. No, man. ****, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.
 
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