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Texans hire Bill O'Brien as HC

If this team stays relatively healthy and if Andre comes back, I will be upset if we don't make the play-offs.

Depends on how we actually play as to whether I think OB did a good job or not.
 
ObsiWan said:
See, here's the thing. A.J. believes the answer is "no". So he wants outta here.
Foster is more positive in saying that if the team doesn't get down at the first bump in the road, the answer is "yes". We can get back to being a winning team again.

but I didn't ask you about what "CAN" happen...
I asked you what do you honestly think WILL happen?

Do you believe they WILL have a winning record?
yes or no?
:)

and in the interest of full disclosure, I say "no".
Don't misunderstand me. I'm not wishing for a losing season in any way. I'm predicting a losing season.
Why?
- the history of coaches from the Belichick tree gives me no reason for optimism.
- Fitzpatrick is our QB.
- RAC is putting in an entirely new defense and I'm not sure he has all the pieces he needs to make it work. Especially at ILB.

I ain't saying that we will be drafting in the top five again; I just see another season under .500. Say 6-10 or 7-9.

I'll be elated if I'm wrong.

...and I used to be a card-carrying Sunshine Club member.
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With this strength of schedule I could see a 7-9/9-7 season. Because of

1. As bad as Fitzpatrick might be he will be an improvement over the QB the Texans got last yr.

2. BOB wont do as badly coaching the team as Kubiak did last yr and it appears the asst coaching positions have all been upgraded except I have my doubts about OL coach Dunn.
3. I consider RAC to be a huge upgrade at DC ane he's got a lot of talent to work with. If Nix/Cushing stay healthy and play up their potential the Texans will have one of the best front 7's in the NFL.

Who do you see in the Texans division as better?

Colts minus non steroided up Mathis for the 1st 4 games? Locker lead Tacks? Chad Henne and the Jags? Yep, they really scare me.

I could easily see 5-1 within the AFC South and playing the last place schedule another 4 wins shouldn't be out of the question. A lot of this hinges on 1. Fitzpatrick, 2. Health 3. Newton
 
EllisUnit said:
Very true, i never thought about it like that. Maybe or offense will be better because then the defense wont know 100% where we are going with the ball :kitten:
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PapaL said:
And neither would Keenum. :truck:
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EllisUnit said:
I mean we have to be honest, i think any QB would look for AJ first, but they dont have to go to him all the time.
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I don't know how many times we'v heard Kubiak saying that they will go to AJ.
To imply that Keenum can't spread the ball, or can't go to a second read is ridiculous.

Let me give some numbers to prove the point.

In 2013, AJ tied with Pierre Garcon as being most targeted, at 181 apiece.
The QBs on both teams (Skins and Texans) combined for the same number of pass attempts (611).
Pierre freaking Garcon!
One would think that RGIII and Cousins would combine to target AJ some 300 times if they play for the Texans.
 
76Texan said:
I don't know how many times we'v heard Kubiak saying that they will go to AJ.
To imply that Keenum can't spread the ball, or can't go to a second read is ridiculous.

Let me give some numbers to prove the point.

In 2013, AJ tied with Pierre Garcon as being most targeted, at 181 apiece.
The QBs on both teams (Skins and Texans) combined for the same number of pass attempts (611).
Pierre freaking Garcon!
One would think that RGIII and Cousins would combine to target AJ some 300 times if they play for the Texans.
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Secondly, the target number include "throw aways".
These are not really targets, since the QBs were pressured and just wanted to get rid of the ball.

Schaub and Keenum combined for 32.
RG III and Cousins combined for just 17.
(I don't have a number for Yates in his 22 attempts.)

At any rate, the Skins actually targeted Garçon more than the Texans did AJ.
 
Now, Keenum went to AJ 74 times in 253 passes, for a clip of 29.24%

Schaub and Yates combined for 107/380 for 28.16% (1% less.)

In the years when AJ played all 16 games, these are his. Numbers:

2012
162/554 = 29.24%
(The same percentage Keenum targeted him.)

2009
171/593 = 28.84%

2008
170/555 = 30.63%

Is there any doubt about Kubiak's game plan?
 
xtruroyaltyx said:
If this team stays relatively healthy and if Andre comes back, I will be upset if we don't make the play-offs.

Depends on how we actually play as to whether I think OB did a good job or not.
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I would be shocked if they make the playoffs with Ryan Fitzpatrick as QB.

Heck, I'd be shocked if they posted a winning record with Ryan Fitzpatrick as QB.
 
TEXANRED said:
Yes. And we win the division.
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EllisUnit said:
Yes me as well, and i think we win the division also. I know it sounds crazy with a new coach, fitzmagic, no Andre as of now but i am really positive about this up coming season.
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xtruroyaltyx said:
If this team stays relatively healthy and if Andre comes back, I will be upset if we don't make the play-offs.

Depends on how we actually play as to whether I think OB did a good job or not.
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You folks are far more optimistic than I am. I figure 9-7 at absolute best. More likely 6-7 wins.
 
steelbtexan said:
With this strength of schedule I could see a 7-9/9-7 season. Because of

1. As bad as Fitzpatrick might be he will be an improvement over the QB the Texans got last yr.

2. BOB wont do as badly coaching the team as Kubiak did last yr and it appears the asst coaching positions have all been upgraded except I have my doubts about OL coach Dunn.
3. I consider RAC to be a huge upgrade at DC ane he's got a lot of talent to work with. If Nix/Cushing stay healthy and play up their potential the Texans will have one of the best front 7's in the NFL.

Who do you see in the Texans division as better?

Colts minus non steroided up Mathis for the 1st 4 games? Locker lead Tacks? Chad Henne and the Jags? Yep, they really scare me.

I could easily see 5-1 within the AFC South and playing the last place schedule another 4 wins shouldn't be out of the question. A lot of this hinges on 1. Fitzpatrick, 2. Health 3. Newton
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The Colts are better just from QB play alone. The other two teams in the division are, as we are, big question marks. I don't think Henne or Locker finish the year as their teams' starters. Maybe we get out of the division with a 3-3 record. Maaaybe we get 3 or 4 wins out of the other ten games.
And just for grins, let's see who those are...
Washington - think RAC will have his D ready for a healthy RGIII?
@ Oakland - I just hope Schaub doesn't throw for 350 yds on us.
@ Giants - Can Fitzy outduel Eli?
Buffalo - Mario comes home to roost
@ Dallas - Have we ever beaten the Cowboys up there? Seriously, I don't remember
@ Pittsburgh - Can Fitzy outduel Big Ben?
Philadelphia - Can KJ or J-Joe cover Jeremy Maclin? Can our LBs run with LeShon McCoy?
@ Cleveland - Johnny F. Football should be the starter by now. What do you think will happen
Cincinnati - Can our guys stay with A.J. Green?
Baltimore - Boy we better beat Kubiak's offense in our house.

Cleveland, Oakland, and Buffalo are possible wins; but then again, two of those games are on the road....
Like I said I see six, maybe seven wins...
 
ObsiWan said:
The Colts are better just from QB play alone. The other two teams in the division are, as we are, big question marks. I don't think Henne or Locker finish the year as their teams' starters. Maybe we get out of the division with a 3-3 record. Maaaybe we get 3 or 4 wins out of the other ten games.
And just for grins, let's see who those are...
Washington - think RAC will have his D ready for a healthy RGIII?
@ Oakland - I just hope Schaub doesn't throw for 350 yds on us.
@ Giants - Can Fitzy outduel Eli?
Buffalo - Mario comes home to roost
@ Dallas - Have we ever beaten the Cowboys up there? Seriously, I don't remember
@ Pittsburgh - Can Fitzy outduel Big Ben?
Philadelphia - Can KJ or J-Joe cover Jeremy Maclin? Can our LBs run with LeShon McCoy?
@ Cleveland - Johnny F. Football should be the starter by now. What do you think will happen
Cincinnati - Can our guys stay with A.J. Green?
Baltimore - Boy we better beat Kubiak's offense in our house.

Cleveland, Oakland, and Buffalo are possible wins; but then again, two of those games are on the road....
Like I said I see six, maybe seven wins...
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Give me
1. Washington- Home opener, defense makes RG3 look bad. Offense runs over Redskins defense 24-21
2. Oakland- I would feel better if the Texans were facing Schaub later in the yr after his foot started giving him problems again. 31- 23
3. NYG- Giants are going to be terrible this yr. Worst OL in the NFL. 20-7
4. Cincy Texans always have Dalton's number. 20-13
5. Buffalo- MW is hurt by now Texans
6. Dallas- Texans defense holds Cowboys to 24, Cowboys historically bad defense gives up 35

This doesn't include Cleveland who the Texans could beat. So if I'm wrong and the Texans go 5-2 in these games and go 4-2 in the AFC South that still = 9 wins.

Pass the Koolaid please. Not that I'm saying things will work out this way.
 
ObsiWan said:
The Colts are better just from QB play alone. The other two teams in the division are, as we are, big question marks. I don't think Henne or Locker finish the year as their teams' starters. Maybe we get out of the division with a 3-3 record. Maaaybe we get 3 or 4 wins out of the other ten games.
And just for grins, let's see who those are...
Washington - think RAC will have his D ready for a healthy RGIII?
@ Oakland - I just hope Schaub doesn't throw for 350 yds on us.
@ Giants - Can Fitzy outduel Eli?
Buffalo - Mario comes home to roost
@ Dallas - Have we ever beaten the Cowboys up there? Seriously, I don't remember
@ Pittsburgh - Can Fitzy outduel Big Ben?
Philadelphia - Can KJ or J-Joe cover Jeremy Maclin? Can our LBs run with LeShon McCoy?
@ Cleveland - Johnny F. Football should be the starter by now. What do you think will happen
Cincinnati - Can our guys stay with A.J. Green?
Baltimore - Boy we better beat Kubiak's offense in our house.

Cleveland, Oakland, and Buffalo are possible wins; but then again, two of those games are on the road....
Like I said I see six, maybe seven wins...
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Your worried if JJoe or Kjax can cover Maclin??!! Coming off an injury??!! Eagles offense is overrated IMO. STOP McCoy, you stop there offense!
 
Y'all just remember Fitzpatrick tends to throw picks in the 4th quarter, so while it's temping to think that the Texans defense could win some games, keep in mind that Fitzpatrick could give them away.
 
ObsiWan said:
The Colts are better just from QB play alone. The other two teams in the division are, as we are, big question marks. I don't think Henne or Locker finish the year as their teams' starters. Maybe we get out of the division with a 3-3 record. Maaaybe we get 3 or 4 wins out of the other ten games.
And just for grins, let's see who those are...
Washington - think RAC will have his D ready for a healthy RGIII?
@ Oakland - I just hope Schaub doesn't throw for 350 yds on us.
@ Giants - Can Fitzy outduel Eli?
Buffalo - Mario comes home to roost
@ Dallas - Have we ever beaten the Cowboys up there? Seriously, I don't remember
@ Pittsburgh - Can Fitzy outduel Big Ben?
Philadelphia - Can KJ or J-Joe cover Jeremy Maclin? Can our LBs run with LeShon McCoy?
@ Cleveland - Johnny F. Football should be the starter by now. What do you think will happen
Cincinnati - Can our guys stay with A.J. Green?
Baltimore - Boy we better beat Kubiak's offense in our house.

Cleveland, Oakland, and Buffalo are possible wins; but then again, two of those games are on the road....
Like I said I see six, maybe seven wins...
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None of these above listed teams worry me too much. RAC is all about 1 on 1 matchups with his Schemes, and I'm pretty confident in our defense.
 
Double Barrel said:
Y'all just remember Fitzpatrick tends to throw picks in the 4th quarter, so while it's temping to think that the Texans defense could win some games, keep in mind that Fitzpatrick could give them away.
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If this happens don't expect Fitz to be the starting QB for very long.

So you don't think Fitz is going to take the Texans org on a magical ride? LOL
 
Double Barrel said:
Y'all just remember Fitzpatrick tends to throw picks in the 4th quarter, so while it's temping to think that the Texans defense could win some games, keep in mind that Fitzpatrick could give them away.
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Come on Debbie Downer cant you see people were starting to get drunk off the Koolaid, then you had to go around giving breathalyzers :truck:
 
steelbtexan said:
If this happens don't expect Fitz to be the starting QB for very long.

So you don't think Fitz is going to take the Texans org on a magical ride? LOL
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nah, just have to keep reminding myself "this is a rebuild year, this is a rebuild year..."

EllisUnit said:
Come on Debbie Downer cant you see people were starting to get drunk off the Koolaid, then you had to go around giving breathalyzers :truck:
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Nope, not Debbie Downer, but rather Ronnie Realist. :kitten:

My attitude this season is to not have high expectations and I won't be disappointed.

Hey, Fitz starts being something he's never been before and I'll be glad to say I was incorrect in doubting him. However, based on his history, I simply find it delusional to hope for something he has never been to this point.

Some of our biggest optimists on the forum have expressed their doubts in this thread, so I'm in good company. :howdy:
 
Double Barrel said:
nah, just have to keep reminding myself "this is a rebuild year, this is a rebuild year..."



Nope, not Debbie Downer, but rather Ronnie Realist. :kitten:

My attitude this season is to not have high expectations and I won't be disappointed.

Hey, Fitz starts being something he's never been before and I'll be glad to say I was incorrect in doubting him. However, based on his history, I simply find it delusional to hope for something he has never been to this point.

Some of our biggest optimists on the forum have expressed their doubts in this thread, so I'm in good company. :howdy:
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I thought drinking the koolaid meant you were delusional :barman:
 
Double Barrel said:
IMO, you've got to be drinking spiked koolaid to believe that Ryan Fitzpatrick is taking this team to the playoffs. ;)
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HAHA well TBH i dont think Fitz will be the starter, i believe either Kennum or Savage will beat him out. Hoping so anyways.

And duh my koolaid is spiked, is there any other way to drink it ;)
 
PHILLYTEXANFAN said:
Your worried if JJoe or Kjax can cover Maclin??!! Coming off an injury??!! Eagles offense is overrated IMO. STOP McCoy, you stop there offense!
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J-Joe is coming off a sub-par year where he was gimpy himself and K-Jax has bad luck when it comes to untimely penalties (some of those he got were unwarranted IMO, but that's a whole 'nuther discussion)... And the guy behind McCoy is Sproles - I don't see a LB on our squad that can cover either of them
...so yeah, I'm a bit worried.
 
Double Barrel said:
nah, just have to keep reminding myself "this is a rebuild year, this is a rebuild year..."



Nope, not Debbie Downer, but rather Ronnie Realist. :kitten:

My attitude this season is to not have high expectations and I won't be disappointed.

Hey, Fitz starts being something he's never been before and I'll be glad to say I was incorrect in doubting him. However, based on his history, I simply find it delusional to hope for something he has never been to this point.

Some of our biggest optimists on the forum have expressed their doubts in this thread, so I'm in good company. :howdy:
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Me too. Hell, I'll even re-up in the club. As DB alluded to, I used to be president back in '09.
:D
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ObsiWan said:
J-Joe is coming off a sub-par year where he was gimpy himself and K-Jax has bad luck when it comes to untimely penalties (some of those he got were unwarranted IMO, but that's a whole 'nuther discussion)... And the guy behind McCoy is Sproles - I don't see a LB on our squad that can cover either of them
...so yeah, I'm a bit worried.
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There is a rumor, though, that RAC uses some sort of exotic defense in the passing game... I think it is called a ZONE defense. If I understand this radical concept, my understanding is that the zone coverage will allow the LBs to cover an area in the middle of the field instead of chasing guys with 4.3 speed around the entire field. Perhaps that will help out the LBs some?
 
PHILLYTEXANFAN said:
None of these above listed teams worry me too much. RAC is all about 1 on 1 matchups with his Schemes, and I'm pretty confident in our defense.
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dalemurphy said:
There is a rumor, though, that RAC uses some sort of exotic defense in the passing game... I think it is called a ZONE defense. If I understand this radical concept, my understanding is that the zone coverage will allow the LBs to cover an area in the middle of the field instead of chasing guys with 4.3 speed around the entire field. Perhaps that will help out the LBs some?
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Alright you two, which is it. Will our coverage scheme be 1 on 1 matchups (which worries me) or Zone (which doesn't make me feel a whole lot better)??
Gimme something here.... I need a good, logically defendable reason to re-up in the Sunshine Club. ...like Watt will be Watt, Clowney will be as advertised during all the pre-draft hoopla, and Mercilus will take a step up and be what we hoped he would last year. If those three perform well our pass rush could be unstoppable.

....of course our offense still won't be able to score because you cannot pull off the Belichick offense without a Brady as your trigger man
and we have Fitzpatrick...
:toropalm:
 
ObsiWan said:
Alright you two, which is it. Will our coverage scheme be 1 on 1 matchups (which worries me) or Zone (which doesn't make me feel a whole lot better)??
Gimme something here.... I need a good, logically defendable reason to re-up in the Sunshine Club. ...like Watt will be Watt, Clowney will be as advertised during all the pre-draft hoopla, and Mercilus will take a step up and be what we hoped he would last year. If those three perform well our pass rush could be unstoppable.

....of course our offense still won't be able to score because you cannot pull off the Belichick offense without a Brady as your trigger man
and we have Fitzpatrick...
:toropalm:
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Well, I got my info from a KC fan who is a football nut. The other guy opened up with the word rumor.:kitten:

Good research can be done at arrowhead pride .

My source though thinks RAC is stuck in the 80s with scheme, " my guy vs your guy"
 
ObsiWan said:
Alright you two, which is it. Will our coverage scheme be 1 on 1 matchups (which worries me) or Zone (which doesn't make me feel a whole lot better)??
Gimme something here.... I need a good, logically defendable reason to re-up in the Sunshine Club. ...like Watt will be Watt, Clowney will be as advertised during all the pre-draft hoopla, and Mercilus will take a step up and be what we hoped he would last year. If those three perform well our pass rush could be unstoppable.

....of course our offense still won't be able to score because you cannot pull off the Belichick offense without a Brady as your trigger man
and we have Fitzpatrick...
:toropalm:
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Here's some sunshine for you

Offense - 1. Newton become serviceable in pass pro and a dominating run blocker. 2. Hopkins steps his game up and gets 80 catches 3. Foster returns to his dominating self. 4. Brown stays healthy and XSF becomes an all rookie/pro bowl type player.

Defense- 1. Watt becomes even more dominant with more talent around him. 2. Cushing stays healthy and plays at an all pro level. 3. Clowney becomes the pass rusher on a Bruce Smith level. 4. With all of the attention Watt/Clowney get Mercilus becomes a 10 sack guy. 5. Reed makes a seamless transition to ILB. 6. Nix stays healthy and plays like the dominant top 10 pick he would have been if he had gone into the 2013 draft. 7. AJ Bouye becomes an above avg CB allowing KJ to play the slot which his short area coverage ability would be a strength.

Most of all the Texans need to stay healthy because there's not a lot of quality depth. If 7 of the 11 things happen and Fitz gives avg QB play then the Texans can be a playoff team. How's that for some sunshine?
 
DX-TEX said:
Where was this at? Link?
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“We definitely have a chance to disguise a little bit more as opposed to being out there like sitting ducks and you know just waiting for it to happen to us,” Jackson said of the difference in defensive schemes. “I think we’ll have a lot more chances to see the ball come out instead of having our backs to the ball and playing a lot of man. I’m sure we’ll play man, but we’ll defiantly mix it up a lot more than usual.”
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http://www.csnhouston.com/football-houston-texans/talk/jackson-talks-new-contract-d-under-crennel

then this from DJ...

“It’s a lot of adjustments but it’s all adjustments for the better,” Swearinger said on Thursday, after the Texans wrapped up their third day of OTAs. “We like it. I like it a whole lot better than last year because it gives us flexibility. We’ll be able to confuse a lot of quarterbacks, switching calls and stuff like that. I like it and just ready to keep going with it.”
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Right off the bat one of the things that Ed Reed butted heads with Wade about was disguising your defenses -- Wade didn't believe in it. Reed was done before he got here, but the dude was in every smart QB's head for years. (Watch A Football Life: Bill Belichick... he and Brady focus on Reed in their game-planning.)
 
TEXANRED said:
Prepare to be shocked sir!
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I would love nothing more than to be shocked in this regard. I certainly do not want my perspective to be confirmed, but instead be blown out of the water.

austins23 said:
Must have been spiked two years ago when #8 took em to the playoffs.
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nah, Schaub/Kubiak had a good offense for years. The Texans just had horrible defenses until Wade came along.

I was more shocked in 2013 when the team was never able to show even a glimmer of its 2011 & 2012 self. I was bathing in spiked koolaid during last year's pre-season. In my mind, it was a given that they would be in the playoffs. So it was just a question of how far could they go? Obviously, a 14 game losing streak was the last thing I expected.
 
:logo:

WHEN YOU COME HERE

1. DO YOUR JOB
2. WORK HARD
3. PAY ATTENTION & FOCUS
4. ALWAYS PUT THE TEAM FIRST


On the entry door.
 
Anyone watch the Texans propaganda film on Ch 13 last night, Texans Reloaded? O brien is in some of the new commercials saying "Be a good team mate". Fact he even did them kind of dispels the myth he is Belechikien
 
DX-TEX said:
Anyone watch the Texans propaganda film on Ch 13 last night, Texans Reloaded? O brien is in some of the new commercials saying "Be a good team mate". Fact he even did them kind of dispels the myth he is Belechikien
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So you have knowledge of all things the Pats put out in local media?

Maybe he is and maybe not. Probably most of the time we won't know exactly how Belichick would have handled something.
 
infantrycak said:
So you have knowledge of all things the Pats put out in local media?

Maybe he is and maybe not. Probably most of the time we won't know exactly how Belichick would have handled something.
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Pretty well known Belichick doesn't do a lot of these types of PR things. And yes my wife's family are huge Pats fans so I get some knowledge there.
 
DX-TEX said:
Pretty well known Belichick doesn't do a lot of these types of PR things. And yes my wife's family are huge Pats fans so I get some knowledge there.
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It's well known Belichick doesn't give away much to the press in interviews. Not the same thing at all.
 
infantrycak said:
So you have knowledge of all things the Pats put out in local media?ful

Maybe he is and maybe not. Probably most of the time we won't know exactly how Belichick would have handled something.
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Aren't we in a great mood this beautiful Monday morning.

I like BOB doing that spot and no BB doesn't do things like that. Atleast that I've seen in the last decade.
 
Not much to go on but so far BOB looks like he is slowly defining he is his own man. I don't think we will see clone-guy at all. I do think he learned things from BB that he will emulate. I don't know why you mess with what you perceive works, and it's part of why he was hired in the first place. Experience in a winning system seems something Bob (McNair) coveted in Kubiak and the BOB.
 
DX-TEX said:
Pretty well known Belichick doesn't do a lot of these types of PR things. And yes my wife's family are huge Pats fans so I get some knowledge there.
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Belichick did let an NFL Film crew follow him around for a year to make two episodes of A Football Life. That was very revealing.
 
DX-TEX said:
Anyone watch the Texans propaganda film on Ch 13 last night, Texans Reloaded? O brien is in some of the new commercials saying "Be a good team mate". Fact he even did them kind of dispels the myth he is Belechikien
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I'm watching it now. Good stuff.
 
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...ns-bill-obriens-style-similar-to-tom-coughlin

The two days I spent watching the Houston Texans were like a time machine of sorts for me, taking me back to a time when I was a beat guy covering the Jacksonville Jaguars with a first-year NFL coach named Tom Coughlin.

My favorite moment from the two days I watched the team, a moment that says a lot about O'Brien, was when he had his players line up to run wind sprints after practice, an NFL rarity, but something Coughlin used to do. "You want to know how to win?" O'Brien screamed at his players. "Listen to me."

I get the sense he loves the don't-pay-attention-to-outside-noise-and-distraction mantra, which are things a control freak like O'Brien tries to eliminate as best he can. I would love to say he's different than what he seems, which a lot of staffers told me, but I never had a chance to sit down with him in a one-on-one setting. It didn't fit the schedule, I guess.

I am OK with that. Nor am I complaining about it. Sometimes, it's best to just observe and listen. And based on what I saw, I think O'Brien could be a heck of a coach.

The problem is that many limbs from that Parcells tree rotted when they broke off. The coaches rarely lived up to the hype when they got head-coaching jobs, one such failure being Romeo Crennel, now the defensive coordinator in Houston. There have been others who have also failed, like Josh McDaniels and Eric Mangini. Coughlin, though, won big. And I see more Coughlin in O'Brien than Mangini or Crennel or McDaniels.

He will learn. He's smart. He will also learn what's important and what's not -- and will realize you can't sweat the little things. Although he would never admit it, when Coughlin learned that lesson, he won a Super Bowl.

Before that happened, he was fired in Jacksonville and forced to change. Like most smart coaches, O'Brien will come to realize the only things that truly matter are those that happen on the field, and, no matter how much he might try, controlling that is darn near impossible
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Nice write up by Prisco about O'Brien.
 
DX-TEX said:
http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/writer...ns-bill-obriens-style-similar-to-tom-coughlin
Nice write up by Prisco about O'Brien.
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"Positive Pete" doing what he does... wearing out that chip on his shoulder...

"maniacal ways"

"O'Brien has eliminated scooters and Segways" -- my understanding was the facilities insurance required this.

"limits where media members can watch practice"

"inflexible"

"a sign of control: It's O'Brien's iPod that plays the music"

"a control freak like O'Brien"

"I would love to say he's different than what he seems, but I never had a chance to sit down with him in a one-on-one setting. It didn't fit the schedule, I guess."

"Sprints after practice, Oklahoma drills...What's next, the old "bull in the ring" drill?"
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Playoffs said:
"Positive Pete" doing what he does... wearing out that chip on his shoulder...
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I came away from reading that article feeling much different than you appear to. It was rather supportive of O'Brien, if in a somewhat back-handed fashion.
 
It was a whiney article but with such little access, I'll appreciate the tasty morsels he gave us. I like that the head football coach blows the whistle.
 
Pete Prisco said:
The problem is that many limbs from that Parcells tree rotted when they broke off.
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'cept, you know, Belichick, Coughlin, and Payton....6 rings between them.

As far as Belichick's coaching tree...seems like the law of averages would eventually kick in and he'd have one head coach from it find success. It might as well be O'Brien!
 
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