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That article is spot on!! JMO!! Some of you guys have very short memories!
Think I will leave it at that!!
Well, there's no reason for a personal attack on........I forgot what I was.....nevermind.
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That article is spot on!! JMO!! Some of you guys have very short memories!
Think I will leave it at that!!
so I would say HOUSTON was not against Mario, national/local media and dopey fake fans were against him
Yank, where do you think "dopey fake fans" come from? Our fans were brutal, and still are. When they stood up for VY at that game, screaming his name, wearing his jersey, acting like FOOLS over a flippin football player that was playing FOR THE ENEMY, I wanted to vomit! In my 50+ years of being a diehard football fan I've never seen anything like that, and hope to never see it again! How do you think Mario, and the rest of the team felt that day watching THEIR fans turn against them. I was there! I watched half the BULLPEN go ape**** over VY running that TD, as well as security guards pushing Texan fans back so Titan fans could get close to the rail. I was bound and determined to stand my ground and NOT ALLOW a Titan fan past me, and was told by PAUL to move aside and leave them alone, OR ELSE HE WOULD HAVE ME EJECTED FROM THE GAME!! Yea, fond memories of TEXAN fans that day!! If I felt so abused, as a fan, I just wonder how our players felt that day, esp Mario!
Agree on everything except the "might not have lived up to" part. I don't see anyone taken in the first round I'd trade for, except maybe Cutler and that's projecting him to be much better under Kubiak's tutelage. (EDIT:Missed Ngata)Mario may not have lived up to his status as the number 1 pick in the draft, but he was still a damn good DE. He had to be double teamed or else he was in their backfield. And he was a damn good run stopper.
ST is right in a lot of respects, but there was also a national media consensus that the Texans blew that pick big time. They were laughing at us for a while there.That article is spot on!! JMO!! Some of you guys have very short memories!
ST is right in a lot of respects, but there was also a national media consensus that the Texans blew that pick big time. They were laughing at us for a while there.
Remember, it was near the end of a 6-10 season, the stands were mostly empty and tickets were readily available.
BTW,
Would everybody agree that Ngata was the best player in the 2006 draft?
How Casserly has a job as a NFL expert continues to amaze me.
Really? You'd pick him over Mario?
In a heartbeat .... Ngata < MW.
BTW Toro on Parade , your sig doesnt meet the forum guidelines found here
Career stats:
Ngata:
Solo Tackles:206 Sacks: 17.0
Mario Williams:
Solo Tackles:192 Sacks: 53
That's what
The reaction the board had once he officially left says it all right there. Those wanting the guy back were definitely in the minority and in the end most were just "eh'" about him either way. Dude was always on the outside looking in houston....even if some fans weren't willing to admit it. So yeah, there's some level of truth to what the writer is saying, but it is overplayed a little.
There are questions about how much Mario Williams loves football.*He has buddies who he rides (motorcycles) with who seem to believe that football is what he does for a living but it isn’t what he loves.*That bothers me* I think it is important that your core players eat and sleep football and that they love it.*Mario has never really been that guy.
After the national media hurled streams of baseless criticism at the Texans FO for not validating the media's own narrative of Reggie Bush as the next OJ Simpson, Texans fans naturally defaulted to the position of defending the Mario pick.
But six years later, it didn't seem there was a justifiable return for the premium being paid. That has a lot to do with injuries, but Zierlein identifies another important reason:
http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2012/03/for-bills-fans-a-scouting-report-on-mario-williams/
Brian Cushing is the opposite of this. If Cushing's contract weren't extended, you'd see torches and pitchforks. But if your $80 million player lacks passion, it's no surprise when his exit is passionless.
After the national media hurled streams of baseless criticism at the Texans FO for not validating the media's own narrative of Reggie Bush as the next OJ Simpson, Texans fans naturally defaulted to the position of defending the Mario pick.
But six years later, it didn't seem there was a justifiable return for the premium being paid. That has a lot to do with injuries, but Zierlein identifies another important reason:
http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2012/03/for-bills-fans-a-scouting-report-on-mario-williams/
Brian Cushing is the opposite of this. If Cushing's contract weren't extended, you'd see torches and pitchforks. But if your $80 million player lacks passion, it's no surprise when his exit is passionless.
Mario tweeted:
"Judgement Day November 4th!!"
I was a Mario guy and I wished him the best in Buffalo, but now it's on!! **** him!! The pansy probably won't even be on the field come November 4th.
Señor Stan;1938010 said:The only sack Mario Williams will see that day is after being pancaked by Duane Brown!
Mario tweeted:
"Judgement Day November 4th!!"
I was a Mario guy and I wished him the best in Buffalo, but now it's on!! **** him!! The pansy probably won't even be on the field come November 4th.
If anything, the ability of these guys to have separate identities away from the game should be commended b/c more than anything it probably signifies that they don't carry themselves like the typical entitled "star"....**coughs** Brett Favre.
* Mario’s long arms allow him the opportunity to be elite when it comes to setting the edge against the run. He rarely gets pushed very far off of his spot vs. the run, so it is tough to find substantial running lanes to his side at any point.
**** Him!!! He's a punk-ass beyotch (with his comments)
Mario tweeted:
"Judgement Day November 4th!!"
I was a Mario guy and I wished him the best in Buffalo, but now it's on!! **** him!! The pansy probably won't even be on the field come November 4th.
He will be there. Should be fun.
After the national media hurled streams of baseless criticism at the Texans FO for not validating the media's own narrative of Reggie Bush as the next OJ Simpson, Texans fans naturally defaulted to the position of defending the Mario pick.
But six years later, it didn't seem there was a justifiable return for the premium being paid. That has a lot to do with injuries, but Zierlein identifies another important reason:
http://blog.chron.com/fantasyfootball/2012/03/for-bills-fans-a-scouting-report-on-mario-williams/
Brian Cushing is the opposite of this. If Cushing's contract weren't extended, you'd see torches and pitchforks. But if your $80 million player lacks passion, it's no surprise when his exit is passionless.
His outside interests aren't really the point. The point is that he seemed to lack passion for the game. That lack of passion was always sensed by fans, but was never openly discussed because of avoidance of accusations of unfair criticism (or validating VY fanboys and media). But the feeling permeated, and it was a sense of oddness that a man with his physical ability was not among the most feared pass rushers in the game. He was indeed dominant at times, but if a pass rusher with his measurables --if he passionately loves the game-- has an appetite to destroy, then that appetite would be satisfied regularly. But he didn't, and that is why his name does not trigger the same response as names like Jared Allen or Demarcus Ware.
Note one of the positives from Zierlein's assessment of Mario:
He addresses Mario's superior physical attribute, and then the potential it provides. After six years of watching Mario Williams, Zierlein speaks of his elite status conditionally, not factually. That says it all right there.
linkTeaming with Manny Lawson, Mario Williams has helped give NC St. the most feared edge rush duo in college football. As a freshman in 2003, Williams made an immediate impact. For the year he tallied 56 tackles, 13 for loss, and five sacks. He was named to everyones Frosh All American lists. As a sophomore, his numbers were almost identical. He finished with 57 tackles, 15 for loss, and six sacks. Williams upped his output for the season finishing with 62 tackles, 24 for loss, and 14.5 sacks.
There may not be a better physical specimen at any position in the draft. Williams has fantastic size for a defensive end, but couples that with supreme athleticism. He draws a lot of comparisons to Julius Peppers for his size and athleticism combination. Mario has the quickness off the line, the ability to change direction, and the closing speed to be a major factor as a pass rusher. But his height and bulk allow him to be a force against the run as well.
Despite being so talented, Williams has not dominated like he should. He just seems to disappear at times. For how big and athletic he is, he should just own opposing tackles. Perhaps that is because he still relies on his athleticism to make plays. Whatever the reason, it does cause some concern.
Williams may end up being the first defensive player selected in April. His upside is that tremendous. He is not as good a prospect as Julius Peppers was, because along with all his talent, Peppers dominated games too. But, the ability is there. Mario is a top 10 lock, and should land in the Top five of the draft.
Maybe not, but I can confirm what LZ has said. I have a friend who met Mario 4-wheeling and dirtbiking somewhere in the city. They became friends and my friend has been to his house several times.Lance isn't anymore credible than you or i when speaking on this issue b/c he was mainly watching the games on the tube just like we were.
When I purchased a jersey, I only considered a #80.
#90 was never an option because, quite frankly, I never felt like he gave a crap about football, nor about the Texans, to the same degree that #80 does.
I am glad I never bought a #90. To me, there was just always something off about him.
I don't know if Smithiak would have drafted Carr or Williams for that reason alone.
I think the drafting of Carr was a business decision. A new franchise needs a face of the franchise to sell tickets and publicity, and that resulted in Carr over peppers. Just like Jax taking a qb with their first selection in the expansion draft and the panthers drafting Kerry Collins with their first pick, a qb is a business decision, not a football decision, for a new franchise
Watching from the sideline??
This recent Mario interview rings somewhat contrasting in parts. Compare the video at 25-35" to 101-117".
VIDEO
Thorn said:Kiss MY ass!!