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Texans' Cuts

I think the biggest reason Banks was cut was to make other teams think the Texans MAY take a QB #1 ..... Since there are several good FA QB's that could be signed to back up DC there is little to lose in the move.

..... If teams think the Texans may take Leinart or Young .... The value of the #1 goes thru the roof.


As for Hollings , He should have been cut last pre-season to make room for another WR (Sloan Thomas who recently re-signed w/ the Titans ?) I think the only reason he stayed is that he cost the team a second rounder and Casserly/Capers wanted to give him a shot to contribute..... He didnt , He's gone.

Coleman .... Im glad to see gone as well . A DUI , missing team meetings , getting suspended not to mention his horrible play .... good bye and good ridance.....

Can someone post what their individual cap numbers would have been for the up-coming season ?

Good to see Kubiak cutting the dead weight .... this team needed to clean house . Im sure they arent done yet.
 
His feelings:

Realized the texans were going in a different Direction.

Says he can still play.

Hoping to find place somewhere else.


DJ asked him if he blames Vic Fangio?

MC: No he doesn't he moved to safety for the betterment of the team.

I will post the rest soon.
 
Coleman was asked about playing for Parcells:

He would like to play for him.

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Asked if any regrets?

Coleman: More wins. Everything else was fine.
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Asked about the guys left in Houston secondary:

Coleman: Those guys are all young and just need more expierence.
 
I don't think the cutting of Banks has anything to do with the draft. I think the Kubiak realized that either A) Ragone is better than Banks and should be the #2 QB or B) they can get a better back up QB through FA that will be cheaper than Banks.
 
tulexan said:
I don't think the cutting of Banks has anything to do with the draft. I think the Kubiak realized that either A) Ragone is better than Banks and should be the #2 QB or B) they can get a better back up QB through FA that will be cheaper than Banks.
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I don't think it has anything to do with the draft. I think it is these same as Tulexan stated.
 
Vinny said:
Tommy Maddux or Brian Griesie? Who's your money on?
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I don't think Maddux ever played under Kubiak. Though he didn't leave Denver on the best of terms, I'd have to guess Griese.

I have to agree with GoBlue. Very sweet. I can think of a half dozen more I'd like to see shown the door at Reliant. Not just players, either.
 
300th Post now. It took me almsot 3 years. I need to start posting more so I can get a little more respect here.
 
cap1 said:
300th Post now. It took me almsot 3 years. I need to start posting more so I can get a little more respect here.
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Just go for quality, not quantity (or both).
 
Releasing Banks will certainly force teams to think about the Texans taking a QB first with Leinart & Cutler both looking strong, maybe a trade down and still get VY? He will have time to groom under Carr with Kubiac.

Hollings may not have been all Casserly, probably Capers had something to do with it as well & since he is gone Kubiac wants to move on with his own players.

However releasing Coleman is a surprise in that its a pretty big cap hit and only two years ago he was returning a 98 yd. INT for a game winning TD in KC. I thought they might move him back to CB and PB to the nickle & draft a safety to replace that position.

I would love to somehow get Michael Huff to be the Texans future FS did anyone else notice his 40 time of 4.34 @ the Combine? Love his attitude, coverage skills, and abiltiy to read/react to make plays.
 
cap1 said:
300th Post now. It took me almsot 3 years. I need to start posting more so I can get a little more respect here.
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Then you have to at least post on topic, and not about your number count!!! j/k brother.....congrats on 300!
 
beerlover said:
Releasing Banks will certainly force teams to think about the Texans taking a QB first with Leinart & Cutler both looking strong, maybe a trade down and still get VY? He will have time to groom under Carr with Kubiac.
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Yeah teams will now think that we might draft a QB on the second day to fill Ragone's spot (assuming he is moved up to 2nd string).

Everyone knows that we aren't going to draft a QB because we just extended Carr's contract by 3 years. We aren't going to pay a guy $50 million to sit on the bench for a few years. We aren't going to trade down and pay a guy $30 million to sit on the bench for a few years. We are going to draft someone who is going to make an immediate impact on the field. Whether it is Reggie Bush at #1 or D'Brick at #4, it will be a guy who will show up in some way on the stat sheets every single game that they are healthy.
 
Good cuts and the Walker cut wasa little surprising but once again a high cap number and low production made him a likely candidate - I think we will see some more cuts yet to come [joppru, wand]. Nice to see Gary and his staff are not sittign pat alot with there hand but workign the numbers and getting a handle on the staff quickly :ok:

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3692204.html
 
tulexan said:
Yeah teams will now think that we might draft a QB on the second day to fill Ragone's spot (assuming he is moved up to 2nd string).

Everyone knows that we aren't going to draft a QB because we just extended Carr's contract by 3 years. We aren't going to pay a guy $50 million to sit on the bench for a few years. We aren't going to trade down and pay a guy $30 million to sit on the bench for a few years. We are going to draft someone who is going to make an immediate impact on the field. Whether it is Reggie Bush at #1 or D'Brick at #4, it will be a guy who will show up in some way on the stat sheets every single game that they are healthy.
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the only impact dbrick will make next year would be to carr's head by the end who just beat him inside.

i would shoot them if they started dbrick at LT his rookie year. freeney will get 3-4 sakcs if that happens
 
The Gary Kubiak house cleaning has begun!!! Way to go Gary! Now we need to get rid of...

Gary Walker
PBrain Buchanon
Corey Bradford (won't be resigned)
All of our TEs and start over
Half of our OL

And we should be on our way to a successful rebuilding...
 
I don't think the cutting of Banks has anything to do with the draft.
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yet cutting tony hollings does? (thats what you insinuated earlier in this thread)

chances are neither have anything to do with the draft, but hell, if one of the moves did it would be the Banks move since he is the bigger surprise and 2nd string QB.

btw, i am shocked that gary walker got cut.
 
stevo3883 said:
the only impact dbrick will make next year would be to carr's head by the end who just beat him inside.

i would shoot them if they started dbrick at LT his rookie year. freeney will get 3-4 sakcs if that happens
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D'Brick is one of the top tackles to come out of the draft in the last 10 years, possibly better than Gallery(who I know is currently a RT), and you are already stating that he's going to be bad. Good times.
 
The Dude Abides said:
D'Brick is one of the top tackles to come out of the draft in the last 10 years, possibly better than Gallery(who I know is currently a RT), and you are already stating that he's going to be bad. Good times.
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umm of course he will be bad his rookie year. LT and QB take the longest to mature at out of probably any position. it will take him 3-4 years if not more to meet his potential.

did you ever watch him in college? he got beat a lot.
 
The Dude Abides said:
D'Brick is one of the top tackles to come out of the draft in the last 10 years, possibly better than Gallery(who I know is currently a RT), and you are already stating that he's going to be bad. Good times.
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possibly better than Gallery? Gallery has been a huge bust so far.
 
tulexan said:
Yeah teams will now think that we might draft a QB on the second day to fill Ragone's spot (assuming he is moved up to 2nd string).

Everyone knows that we aren't going to draft a QB because we just extended Carr's contract by 3 years. We aren't going to pay a guy $50 million to sit on the bench for a few years. We aren't going to trade down and pay a guy $30 million to sit on the bench for a few years. We are going to draft someone who is going to make an immediate impact on the field. Whether it is Reggie Bush at #1 or D'Brick at #4, it will be a guy who will show up in some way on the stat sheets every single game that they are healthy.
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here is your immediate impact- put this in your pipe & smoke it :howdy:

http://www.nfl.com/draft/story/9269821
 
stevo3883 said:
if they started dbrick at LT his rookie year. freeney will get 3-4 sakcs
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And, this is differnt then what we did last year?

Poor Kubiak! He's sitting in the film room watching last years game tapes thinking "OH MY GOD, what have I gotten my self into!"

Hang in there Kubes, I got faith!

:fans:
 
According to chron article.

Walker hasn't been officially released because of the salary cap. He was told that if the NFL doesn't have a new collective bargaining agreement in place with the Players Association that he won't be released until June 1. If they extend the CBA, Walker will be released immediately.
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I don't understand this logic. To me it looks the same since without the CBA there is no June 1st cut. Can somebody explain?
 
OK, with these cuts on the defensive side of the ball, in your opinion, who are free agents that would be good fits for what we are intending to do next year and who might be interested in the Texans?

We were already young young young and thin on defense with little leadership, and I am hoping there is the potential to get some FA help on this side of the ball.

Disregarding the contract stuff, the Texans played better defense when Gary Walker was in the game. And he certainly was a vocal leader as well.

Good luck with your next team, Shrek. (his nickname in the locker room--I had to promise I wouldn't say who told me that cuz Shrek would get mad).
 
Lucky said:
I don't think Maddux ever played under Kubiak. Though he didn't leave Denver on the best of terms, I'd have to guess Griese.
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I just associated Maddux with the Broncos as I heard this news and popped it out. I was trying to think of guys who had some Bronco system exposure. Hulk was right earlier in the thread anyway...he can't move anymore.

This is a year we really clean up the defense it seems. Gary Walker was one of our first Pro Bowlers. Loved watching him when he was at the top of his game. Gary is a little short but he uses that to his advantage and uses leverage well. He gets underneath his man and has a ridiculous bullrush move that is very tough to stop with one man. Gary was also surly and when he played mad he played well. He knew how to play with attitude. It's harder for big men when they get injuries to their wheels. Conditioning is rough when you are old (for being a football player), 300 pounds and you start getting injuries that do not let you run much. Conditioning issues compounded and essaserbated the injury issues but you know what they say....you can't help the club from the tub. I don't have any of the same feelings towards Coleman, and that's a shame....but that's on him. When I think back to this era I won't think much of Coleman, and while Walker broke down at the end he gave us a pro bowl year right off the bat for a franchise without many highs the first half decade.
 
Walker being cut is no surprise to me at all , He couldnt stay on the field and when he did play he wasnt real productive ..... top it off with being old and expensive and you have all the makings of a roster cut .... I was somewhat surprised he and Hollings werent cut in the pre-season......
 
walker's soon to be cut comes as a huge surprise to me since i knew there were teams interested in trading him and then restructuring his contract but i guess(hope) casserly tried to shope him around and got no feedback...anyways...good luck to ya g-funk just don't go back to the titans...i see gary probably going to buffalo or arizona
 
Texans_Chick said:
OK, with these cuts on the defensive side of the ball, in your opinion, who are free agents that would be good fits for what we are intending to do next year and who might be interested in the Texans?
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Finding guys who might be interested in Houston is the tough part to answer. But going into free agency, you can see where the biggest holes are on defense.

LDE - Babin and/or Peek may be able to handle the RDE spot. But the Texans need someone with some size to play on the defensive left side. Aaron Kampman and Raheem Brock might make sense.

MLB - Very, very thin position in free agency. Unless there are some surprise cuts coming, the Texans will need to address this position from their own roster and the draft.

FS - I think Earl and CC Brown can handle the SS spot, but the Texans need a vet who knows what's what in centerfield. Will Demps and Chris Hope are smart players who like to hit (or everything Coleman was not). But there will be competition for their services.

LCB - With Nate Clements franchised, it's another thin group. I think the Texans have to look at the draft for corners, which should be a deep position this year through the middle rounds.
 
Lucky said:
Finding guys who might be interested in Houston is the tough part to answer. But going into free agency, you can see where the biggest holes are on defense.

LDE - Babin and/or Peek may be able to handle the RDE spot. But the Texans need someone with some size to play on the defensive left side. Aaron Kampman and Raheem Brock might make sense.

MLB - Very, very thin position in free agency. Unless there are some surprise cuts coming, the Texans will need to address this position from their own roster and the draft.
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Brock got locked up longterm. Kampman deal in GB isn't imminent.

I think Hope is really underappreciated due to all the Polamalu pub, I hope that depresses his market value.
 
It's good to see such strong decisions made early. Bodes well for the upcoming year. It was painful to watch Banks play in the preseason and 49ers game. Couldn't move the team at all. Hopefully we'll get someone who can to back up Carr.
 
i also like how aggressive we are being so far. i would always get so mad about how passive we would be and sit around while everyone else would be making moves. hopefully we will be active during free agency (whenever it starts)
 
The closest Tommy Maddox will come to playing for Houston is towel boy. He was horrible this past year.

So was P-Buc cut or not?
 
I think Buchanon actually could be semi-productive if he is motivated properly. Hopefully this new staff can get it done.
 
tulexan said:
I think Buchanon actually could be semi-productive if he is motivated properly. Hopefully this new staff can get it done.
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one should note that he is repped by Drew "next question" Rosenhaus.
 
I have a question, with a new spot in the roster for a QB, how crazy is the "Draft Vince" crowd going to go if CC takes Reggie McNeal early in the second day of the draft?
 
Mcneil, Jacobs, Nealy, would all be a good pick on the 2nd day. A running qb might change things up a little if Carr got hurt. Perhaps play a lil WR ala Randle EL as well. The thing about Young is hes not a 2nd day pick. Well at least not yet.
 
2 starters cut on defense, 2 seldom used players on offense. It looks like this is going to be a draft where we go heavy on defense.
 
Runner said:
2 starters cut on defense, 2 seldom used players on offense. It looks like this is going to be a draft where we go heavy on defense.
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eh..thats not quite true. Walker was a starter, but he was barely a starter. He was injured way too often and cost way to much for his production.

Coleman was hardly a starter either.... he sucked bad last year, and was injured for a loooooong time.
 
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