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just heard on a 610 SportsFlash that Gray Walker's been told that he will not be back next year ...
 
I'll definately miss Walker. He was 'Barkley'esque. He would always tell it like it is, and he wouldn't sugar coat it. Hopefully Dunta is able to learn a thing or two from GFunk and won't be afraid to tell it like it is.

Coleman I won't miss. This season he just wasn't playing with a passion for the game. He broke the most important rule when he quit on his team. Absolutely inexcusable. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

As far as the draft is concerened I tend to agree with Runner. I think we very well could be looking at quite a few picks on the defensive side of the ball. I think the only offensive picks we'll see is a RB and/or OT. I'd imagine the Texans would be looking to pick up a young MLB prospect, as well as a young CB and FS to add depth to the secondary, and they would definately be looking at a DE big enough to play the LDE in a 4-3. Obviously if some of these needs are filled via FA first then the Texans may not be as interested in drafting a young player for the position. However, as Lucky mentioned previously, some of the positions where we'll be looking for help are full of a pretty weak pool of free agents.
 
Capster67 said:
Walker's departure could open cap (and physical) space on the line for Abraham.
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unless I'm mistaken Walker was part of the DT stockpile, not really a DE but could in a pinch I suppose
 
TexanSoldier said:
I have a question, with a new spot in the roster for a QB, how crazy is the "Draft Vince" crowd going to go if CC takes Reggie McNeal early in the second day of the draft?
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Why would we take McNeal? he sucks.
 
PowerfulDragon said:
Why would we take McNeal? he sucks.
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Wow, thats pretty extreme. Inconcistent might be more appropriate. But if your a scout or something, hey whatever you say chief.
 
So what do yo think the starting line is going to be?

I would love to see us trade with the Jets and pick up Mario Williams.

Abraham, Smith, Johnson, Williams.

We might be able to get a sack or two. Even....gasp.....stop the run!
 
With Walker and Coleman now gone that pretty much gets rid of every player we picked up through the expansion draft with the exception of Payne.
 
reggie mcneal isn't that bad he just didn't have the recievers or o-line to help him out any...but griese is probably a much more practical person to turn to...as far as other cap cuts what about kaliee wong...he's over 30...coming off of serious ACL surgery...does anyone know how he is doing...what's his rehab looks like...because generally you need a full year to recover from that kind of injury but over the age of 30 that's almost a career ender right there...how much to cut him...how much do we save?
 
TexanSoldier said:
I have a question, with a new spot in the roster for a QB, how crazy is the "Draft Vince" crowd going to go if CC takes Reggie McNeal early in the second day of the draft?
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Hopefully not to crazt, cause Reggie's best future in the NFL is as a Randle-El (sp?) clone. I still can't believe Corey Chavius things of Reggie as a top 5 QB in this draft.

Now with all that being said, I wouldn't mind them drafting McNeil as long as it was Roud 5 or later. We still have to many holes to fill to spned productive draft picks on a extravagence type player, we need the neccesaties.
 
mancunian said:
don't rate Maddox, think Griese would be ok. Wasn't he at Denver with Kubiak?
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The Denver connection was the only reason I mentioned their names.
 
Yo I agree, i was suprised about Banks, but I knew Coleman would go, and I was a little skeptical about Hollings moving from CB to RB in college.

Man now i dont have a good FS in Madden 06 anymore

Marcus Coleman-89 overall

CC Brown-76 overall:crying:
 
Sorry to hear about G-funk, even though he was hurt all the time, he was a gamer.

just my 2 cents on McNeal, he was hampered in his development by A&M's switch to an option offense. He is more of a pocket passer/scrambler than an option quarterback.
 
TexanSoldier said:
I have a question, with a new spot in the roster for a QB, how crazy is the "Draft Vince" crowd going to go if CC takes Reggie McNeal early in the second day of the draft?
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If that happens, it will be just dumb and an excellent representation of a team settling for second best. Why go after a QB like that when you could've gotten the best like that in VY. The only way it is acceptable is if they say they are changing him to WR. Hey, wasn't Ashley Lelie a QB in Hawaii?:spy:
 
El Tejano said:
Are you sure? I could've swore I saw Carr play against him back in 02 and Lelie was a QB.
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Lelie was a receiver for Hawaii. He wasn't the QB. I believe Chan was the QB for Hawaii back in 2002, but thats just off the top of my head.
 
texasguy346 said:
Lelie was a receiver for Hawaii. He wasn't the QB. I believe Chan was the QB for Hawaii back in 2002, but thats just off the top of my head.
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Chan got hurt halfway through the game. It was a back-up that beat FS. Still have a hard time letting that one go. Lelie had a hell of a game though.
 
Texans | Walker to be released
Tue, 28 Feb 2006 21:37:40 -0800

John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports the Houston Texans have informed DT Gary Walker he is being released. Walker hasn't been officially released because of the salary cap. He was told that if the NFL doesn't have a new collective bargaining agreement in place with the NFLPA that he won't be released until June 1. If they extend the CBA, Walker will be released immediately. Walker, who had four years left on his contract, has the second-highest salary cap figure on the roster to QB David Carr.
 
Man, I hate to see Walker go. I think he's still got some game in him and is one of our better d-linemen. And being a veteran, we need his leadership for the young dudes to learn the ins and outs of being a tackle. Johnson and Smith just don't seem to be ready to take over at this point.
 
Gary Walker is on his way out...

I guess everyone's at a loss for words? :sarcasm:
Is it possible the Texans are going to use more high picks on D-Line help? (Mario Williams?)
Is Travis Johnson going to show us he's worth the first round pick?
 
I don't think cutting Walker is going to change any of our decisions regarding the Dline (as far as DTs) in the draft. Comming from a 3-4 we were already deep there. R. Smith, T. Johnson, S Payne. I still would like to pick up a good DE though.
 
Walker I think caused some problems and I'm not surprised to see him gone given Kubiack's emphasis on the team. I think more happened than we knew about, but that is a guess on my part. I wouldn't be surprised if this cut didn't come from the top.....
 
we are decently deep as far as players at the DE position, but half would be unproven in a 4-3 scheme as pass rushing DEs right?. If Peek is resigned that could possibly fill a role there (still unproven at this level), but most of our DEs are run stuffers are they not?
 
bATXle red said:
we are decently deep as far as players at the DE position, but half would be unproven in a 4-3 scheme as pass rushing DEs right?. If Peek is resigned that could possibly fill a role there (still unproven at this level), but most of our DEs are run stuffers are they not?
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if you want to call zero DE's fairly deep...go for it. We have a crapload of "tweeners" though. All of our ends are rush ends...no "run stuffers" really.
 
Vinny said:
if you want to call zero DE's fairly deep...go for it. We have a crapload of "tweeners" though. All of our ends are rush ends...no "run stuffers" really.
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who's rushing from the DE position?

top 3 DEs last year

Robaire Smith 2 sacks 68 tackles
Travis Johnson 1 sack 26 tackles
Gary Walker 1 sack 30 tackles

if they're (minus gfunk) our DE's? where's the rush?
I think we need a speed rusher, nothing against our big boys, but 300+ does not seem to fit as much in the 4-3 where you don't have big linebackers bringing you're speed rush.
Hopefully we get some tweeners to step it up.. for instance I think all of us would like to see Babin play as good as his draft position. :twocents:
 
bATXle red said:
who's rushing from the DE position?

top 3 DEs last year

Robaire Smith 2 sacks 68 tackles
Travis Johnson 1 sack 26 tackles
Gary Walker 1 sack 30 tackles
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The point is in a 4-3 alignment, those guys are all DT's although Walker did play some 4-3 DE for Capers in Jax.
 
El Tejano said:
I thought Walker also played DE for Fisher in Tenn.
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I think you mean Robaire Smith, not Walker. He was primarily a DT, probably did play a few snaps at DE though.
 
Man, I hope they cut Weigart or McKinney, or both and free up more space to go after some FA's. There are a lot of other guys that would free up some space, like Bruener, but these two would go a long way. Either that or major re-structuring of their contracts.
 
dat_boy_yec said:
Man, I hope they cut Weigart or McKinney, or both and free up more space to go after some FA's. There are a lot of other guys that would free up some space, like Bruener, but these two would go a long way. Either that or major re-structuring of their contracts.
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I'd just let McKinney go. He is not worth the money, and even a restructuring doesn't make keeping him very appealing to me. I'd save the money, but then I'd really have to go after a center in free agency. Hodgdon didn't play enough last year to prove his worth or his durability. He might work out, but I wouldn't bet the o-line's season on it.
 
Runner said:
I'd just let McKinney go. He is not worth the money, and even a restructuring doesn't make keeping him very appealing to me. I'd save the money, but then I'd really have to go after a center in free agency. Hodgdon didn't play enough last year to prove his worth or his durability. He might work out, but I wouldn't bet the o-line's season on it.
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Your right. McKinney counts about 4.5 million against the cap. I hope they get rid of him. They need to atleast redo his contract.
 
cap1 said:
Your right. McKinney counts about 4.5 million against the cap. I hope they get rid of him. They need to atleast redo his contract.
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I'm not much of a McKinny fan, but a resturcture would probably be the best thing to do. He is an above average LG, but please never have him play center again. Get his cap hit down and play him at LG and it's not a bad thing.
 
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