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Texans' Cuts
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PapaL
Loose Screw
Porky
Hall of Fame
tulexan said:
I'm surprised about Banks at least cutting him this early.
Several things could be read into this. Ragone moving to #2. Making room for VY, and/or maybe they will sign Tim Couch maybe?
As far as Hollings goes, you could read it as making room for Bush, or just that he was yet another Casserly draft bust in the second/third rounds, that he has to finally come clean on.
Not surprised at all on Coleman. After the lackluster effort last yr, good bye and good riddance.
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
TEXANS84 said:
I expected Colemen and Banks, Hollings threw me off guard. Now that he is healthy, he will get a shot somehwere else and be just fine.
YoungTexanFan
All Pro
Vinny said:
I'd go with: Tim Couch, Marucs Vick, Tommy Maddux...in that order.
PapaL
Loose Screw
From what I've seen and heard from Steeler's fans, Maddux was not a good fit with a young QB. These are diehard, go to every practice and game type people. Obviously they were never in any meetings, but I value their word. Maddux didn't help Big Ben in any way. Maybe he's changed, but not the type of guy I would like around Carr. My 2 cents, take it for what its worth.
as far as the cuts go i wasn't surprised by coleman...banks and hollings i am but oh well neither were ever going to start or make that much of an impact on this team...ragone might be the #2 guy...or this might be the year that the texans staff draft yet another QB...or maybe they're going after one of the veterans vinny mentioned...either way...coleman was gonna cost us a lot of money just to sit on the bench...no reason to keep him...won't be surprised if he winds up in dallas with glenn
Porky
Hall of Fame
keyfro said:
I won't be surprised if he is out of the league. If it's one thing Parcells demands, it 100% effort. Coleman laid a complete egg last year, and looked like he couldn't care less 90% of the time. I don't think Parcells will care for that attitude. Someone will probably give him another chance though, but I just will be shocked if it is Dallas.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
Vinny said:
Maybe Miami will release Gus Frerotte. I think he would make a good backup to Carr. He signed a two year deal last year so probably won't happen. Depends on what they do with Rosenfels i suppose.
Maybe Kitna would like to try his luck here.
Griese sounds more likely.
I'm calling for Josh McCown. I like local guys, I guess this brands me a homer. And the guy showed the ability to put up big numbers (alot of 300 yard games given the starts). I know he had Fitz, Boldin, a non-existent running game, and was playing from behind... but still, he showed the ability to not mess up a good thing and competence at the very least. He's young and has a big arm.
He'd be great as a backup to Carr and somebody to really push him.. we might be able to figure out if Carr is the problem. He'd be great as a 1-2 year guy while/if VY develops. So that's my Josh McCown tout for the day. He's an Ivan Drago doppelganger, which is more than a good thing (judging by his brethren in Drago looks Andrei Kirilenko).
He'd be great as a backup to Carr and somebody to really push him.. we might be able to figure out if Carr is the problem. He'd be great as a 1-2 year guy while/if VY develops. So that's my Josh McCown tout for the day. He's an Ivan Drago doppelganger, which is more than a good thing (judging by his brethren in Drago looks Andrei Kirilenko).
cap1
Rookie
Taken from: http://www.houstonprofootball.com/cap.html
Player Name Signed Base Allocated Total 2006 Cap Figure
Thru Salary Bonus Pay
Banks, Tony 2006 $850,000 $406,720 $1,256,720
Hollings, Tony 2006 $460,000 $239,970 $699,970
Coleman, Marcus 2007 $1,785,000 $1,340,153 $3,125,153
Coleman in 2007 $2,100,000 $1,340,153 $3,440,153
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These are my calculations:
So for Banks and Hollings we saved $850k and 460K. With a cap hit for both at $646,690 and a savings of $1.31 Million
Coleman we saved over 2 years 3.885 Million and took a cap hit of 2.68 Million this year.
Total Savings 4.75 Million and a Cap hit of Just under $3.327 Million this year.
Player Name Signed Base Allocated Total 2006 Cap Figure
Thru Salary Bonus Pay
Banks, Tony 2006 $850,000 $406,720 $1,256,720
Hollings, Tony 2006 $460,000 $239,970 $699,970
Coleman, Marcus 2007 $1,785,000 $1,340,153 $3,125,153
Coleman in 2007 $2,100,000 $1,340,153 $3,440,153
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
These are my calculations:
So for Banks and Hollings we saved $850k and 460K. With a cap hit for both at $646,690 and a savings of $1.31 Million
Coleman we saved over 2 years 3.885 Million and took a cap hit of 2.68 Million this year.
Total Savings 4.75 Million and a Cap hit of Just under $3.327 Million this year.
infantrycak
Hall of Fame
I don't like the Hollings cut. No he has not shown anything in 3 years, but what could they have watched to review him--he had zero carries last year, 11 the year before (4.3 ypc) and 38 back in 2003. Why not carry him into camp and at least watch him in person before officially blowing off a #2?
remember coleman is a parcells guy porky...parcells even gave him a kiss after the pre-season game...so don't count marcus out...i think he just didn't like the team after aaron glenn was released...dallas is his home town...probably wants to retire at home with glenn no big deal...i don't see him signing anywhere else...if dallas doesn't want him and they need a FS then he'll probably retire
as far as the quarterback position and the runningback position...you know i think FA will show us a lot about the upcoming draft...i think after last years horrible offseason...casserly has learned you can't simply hope for your guy to be there when you pick like he did with troy williamson...in this case they know exactly who they can get with the #1 pick but with trades and the other rounds there is no garentee
as far as the quarterback position and the runningback position...you know i think FA will show us a lot about the upcoming draft...i think after last years horrible offseason...casserly has learned you can't simply hope for your guy to be there when you pick like he did with troy williamson...in this case they know exactly who they can get with the #1 pick but with trades and the other rounds there is no garentee
MightyTExan
It's go time!
I'd say Griesie is the best bet considering his history with the Koob. He probably wants to be a starter so instant controversy. I'd like to see McCown too or maybe even Ramsey to compete for the backup/starting job. Good cuts by the team today. Who's next?
TexanSam
Hall of Fame
Dr. Toro said:
I wouldn't mind seeing Josh McCown coming here. I thought he was better than Warner in Arizona, but Dennis Green didn't stick with him. McCown might get a chance to start somewhere else, but if not, I wouldn't mind seeing him backup Carr. He's better than Tony Banks in my opinion. If not McCown, then I'm not sure who else. Wasn't Brian Griese doing pretty good before he got hurt in Tampa Bay? He might want to be a starter also.
I'm not surprised about Hollings or Coleman. I think everyone knew Coleman was going to get cut. He could have stepped up and been the leader of the defense after Sharper and Glenn left, but nope. Lackluster effort the whole year. At least the rest of the team actually seemed to be trying to win games. Hollings was another wasted draft pick. I think he'd been injured alot, kind of like that other wasted 2nd round pick *cough*Joppru*cough*. Oh well, hopefully we'll live and learn.
cuppacoffee
Resident Grouch
rmartin65 said:
Might be on the Bears roster.
GoBlue
Noob
All I have to say is
Sweet
Sweet
Sweet
We'll never miss those guys
Put me down for Griese as a back-up- the more Michigan alums the better. Besides Greise is a born WINNER. He took Wash St. to school in the 1998 Rose Bowl to bring home the national championship. Why, he has as many championships as.....shhh...vince young.
Sweet
Sweet
Sweet
We'll never miss those guys
Put me down for Griese as a back-up- the more Michigan alums the better. Besides Greise is a born WINNER. He took Wash St. to school in the 1998 Rose Bowl to bring home the national championship. Why, he has as many championships as.....shhh...vince young.
Coleman was way past his prime. No surprise he's gone.
I'm a little surprised they cut Banks, but maybe Kubiak has an ace up his sleeve with someone in mind. I would not doubt Griese showing up here if nobody wants to start him.
I thought Hollings might be around a bit longer, too. Hope the kid gets a chance somewhere, but perhaps he just didn't show us anything here because he ain't got anything to show.
I'm a little surprised they cut Banks, but maybe Kubiak has an ace up his sleeve with someone in mind. I would not doubt Griese showing up here if nobody wants to start him.
I thought Hollings might be around a bit longer, too. Hope the kid gets a chance somewhere, but perhaps he just didn't show us anything here because he ain't got anything to show.
cap1
Rookie
I am kinda glad the Texans cut these guys. They will probably not contribute much this year or fit into what the Texans want. I can see more coming by the end of the week.
Like:
McKinny with his 4.7 Million cap number (if he won't redo his contract).
Wiegert with his 4.2 Million cap Number (He needs to redo his contract too)
Like:
McKinny with his 4.7 Million cap number (if he won't redo his contract).
Wiegert with his 4.2 Million cap Number (He needs to redo his contract too)
Meisterman
Waterboy
Hollings gone....check....That's one of Casserly's high round BUSTS cut.. Looks like there are more of Charlie's blunders to go on the list....wonder who's next....hard to pick just one...
mexican_texan
Furry Tractors
3 down, wand to go