TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
The 49ers got immediate production from a RB they added mid week earlier this season. I expect immediate production from Eno today!
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Texans claim Eno Benjamin
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Lovie ain't no Shanny
ghostlight
Veteran
I didn't see him play
Pretty sure that’s what we’re talking about
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Caserio can acquire players. Its up to Lovie/Pep to play them. Tyler Johnson was only active 1-2 games before being cut. Same for Tyron Johnson.
Texansballer74
The Marine
Heard the Texans are waiving dude already. Nick is getting on my darn nerves with this crap.
Why, Caserio isn't the 1st GM to waive him
Night as well waive him since Lovie wasn't going to play him anyway.
Texansballer74
The Marine
DP will be down at least two weeks. Should be sat down for the rest of the year. That way you could’ve evaluated Eno and the rest of the backs.
Dude Burkhead should’ve been waived.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Picking up a waiver claim and dropping him gets on your nerves? What about when he trades draft picks for guys then drops them?
Agreed
My point stands, Lovie makes the decisions on who plays on gamedays and Eno wasn't going to play.
I understand TB74's concern.
Pierce is going to be out the next two weeks. Burkhead is ineffective. They don't trust Ogunbowale... let's cut Benjamin.
Maybe he was in the locker room telling them what they need to do & they waived him for stuff like that, but this is frustrating.
Pierce is going to be out the next two weeks. Burkhead is ineffective. They don't trust Ogunbowale... let's cut Benjamin.
Maybe he was in the locker room telling them what they need to do & they waived him for stuff like that, but this is frustrating.
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TexansBull
Hall of Fame
TheRealJoker
Hall of Fame
Doesn’t matter who the Texans bring in if the coaches don’t play them. I assume Lovie has say on who stays on the 53.
Texansballer74
The Marine
They suppose to be bring up a running back from the practice squad.
FuzzyLogic
Mathematically Possible
Did Burkhead have an older and slower brother they have been hiding from us??
(I kid, none of this is Burkhead's fault, the guy is a pro and always gives it his all, but he's always been a borderline NFL talent and has only gotten older - but it is the Texan's fault, there have to be better options)
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
leebigeztx
Keep it Movin!
Nah, thats Caserio
The could bring up Royce Freeman, the only other one is that Doaks they added yesterday
Why was it a fail of NC's? He won't force a player to be played and it was a simple cheap waiver wire pickup
It all goes back to that Chargers game last season. Burkhead and Mills had career games, and it warped the minds of both the coaching staff and the front office to think they were good.
So picking up a player on the WW that gets cut by the Texans it's a nail in the GM's coffin? Every GM in the NFL does this. He can always avoid this nail in the coffin by avoiding picking guys up off the WW. Is that what you want?
Surely you're joking?
Porky
Hall of Fame
Not joking in the slightest. His handling of the RB position has been nothing short of a titanic-sized disaster. You think Rex Burkhead is so much better then Eno or Marlon Mack that they can’t even in the same RB room with him? That’s your position on this matter?
Mack was no good here, but managed to rip off a 64 yard catch and run for six in Denver. Now we will see another decent depth piece rip it up elsewhere. Meanwhile, nah we don’t need these guys. We have some guy named Dare who is a borderline roster guy and this old geezer Rex that’s good for at least a yard per carry, and that wouldn’t make 31 other rosters. I mean, life is good in the RB room.
what a freaking joke this GM is. His Next trick is wasting the bounty from the one good thing he has done, which was trade Watson for a decent haul. He already passed over the best corner in this draft and maybe several drafts for an oft-injured guy who got worse every year in college. Then he follows that up with a guard that nobody else would draft in the top half of the first round, trades up for slot receiver that could have been had where he stood, throws away draft capital on a team in desperate need of fresh young legs, and signs a bunch of old washed up codgers to deals that continue to eat cap space.
yet he’s done a good job? Leave me off the Casserio train wreck. Dude is a disaster and needs to be flushed along with the other NE garbage.
Mack was no good here, but managed to rip off a 64 yard catch and run for six in Denver. Now we will see another decent depth piece rip it up elsewhere. Meanwhile, nah we don’t need these guys. We have some guy named Dare who is a borderline roster guy and this old geezer Rex that’s good for at least a yard per carry, and that wouldn’t make 31 other rosters. I mean, life is good in the RB room.
what a freaking joke this GM is. His Next trick is wasting the bounty from the one good thing he has done, which was trade Watson for a decent haul. He already passed over the best corner in this draft and maybe several drafts for an oft-injured guy who got worse every year in college. Then he follows that up with a guard that nobody else would draft in the top half of the first round, trades up for slot receiver that could have been had where he stood, throws away draft capital on a team in desperate need of fresh young legs, and signs a bunch of old washed up codgers to deals that continue to eat cap space.
yet he’s done a good job? Leave me off the Casserio train wreck. Dude is a disaster and needs to be flushed along with the other NE garbage.
Don't you think the HC has any say on who he is going to play? Why would the GM keep rb's the HC is not going to play? Your hate of Nick Caserio is coloring your thinking. The GM's job is to find players the coach wants. NC made some good ww pickups but if the HC won't play them there is no sense keeping them burning up a roster spot. This ain't college, roster and practice squad slots are limited
Porky
Hall of Fame
that's bass ackward! The GM aquires the talent, and the coaches figure it out from there. Of course, there is some input as well. So, I'm 100% sure Lovie/Pep were consulted prior to Eno being picked up.
If what you say is true though, it's just a further indictment of NC. He hired Lovie. I don't give two bits about Steelb saying Nick didn't hire him. Let's get real. The GM is responsible for the HC hires. Period. If the HC can't figure out how to fit a mid-level talented RB into the worst RB room in the NFL, you're telling me that's got nothing to do with NC? His hands are as clean as the wind-driven snow?
And you think I am the one with the tainted take on this? Ok if you say so.
This is true for most franchises and was even true for Bud Adams, but you're talking the McNairs here. That's like blaming the HC of the Cowboys for the draft picks. And even if Lovie/Pep were consulted on picking Eno up from the wire, it's only when they get him in house can they determine to play him or not. Eno got in the game against the Cowboys late and only got 3 carries for a total of 1 yard. Do you really think NC decided to cut him without input from Lovie/Pep? I don't
Porky
Hall of Fame
That just makes Texian's critique more obvious. Let's see. What does Nick do? Shifts responsibility and shifts blame. Shuffle paper around a desk and gets water for the staff.
What doesn't he do?
Hire and fire coaches
Draft players
sign players to deals
work the cap
Work the waiver wire
Be responsible for anything bad
This guy apparently has the best gig in the country. Nothing bad is his fault, and everything good is to his credit. What a gig!
What doesn't he do?
Hire and fire coaches
Draft players
sign players to deals
work the cap
Work the waiver wire
Be responsible for anything bad
This guy apparently has the best gig in the country. Nothing bad is his fault, and everything good is to his credit. What a gig!
SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Only one he isn't doing is hiring and firing coaches. Cal has the last say, same as Bob did. And even if you think it is a mistake, Nick let the HC make the 1st pick...not sure that's going to end well.
Porky
Hall of Fame
Newsflash! 32 out of 32 owners sign off on the next head coach. The idea that it's any different here is confusing at best. There's this theory on this board, pushed hardest by SteelB, that the GM here has basically nothing to do with hiring coaches. That's just not supported by any fundamental known facts, nor the history of this, or any other NFL team.
Yes, the owner is in on it. Yes, the owner signs off on it. But at the end of the day, the GM bears the responsibility for bringing his preference or maybe his top two guys to the owner and yes, at that point the owner either vetoes or he signs off on the new guy. Cal McNair isn't beating the bushes for the next Texans HC. That's the GM's job, and it always has been.
Anything else is pure fantasy made up by Steel and others in their attempt to make themselves feel better about Nick the paper pusher aka the file clerk.
** A deviation to this did occur in Jan 22. That's because Cal had to step in when NC flubbed the hiring process so badly, that there was no choice. Cal panicked, told Nick to hire Lovie and the rest is history.
It's not NC saying that stuff. I seriously doubt if you've heard him duck responsibility for anything
So you blame him for hiring Culley... I agree. But also consider that was a ploy to retain Watson that didn't work. I think he had planned on hiring the dude from Miami until he filed a lawsuit against the NFL and added the Texans to do it. Cal then told him no way
I'll ask again. If this was a ploy to retain Watson. Why Culley and not Jim Caldwell? Why hire Culley and then only guarantee two years of his contract?
Isn't it just as likely that it was a ploy that allowed Caserio and Easterby to hire a HC, pick the HC's staff and even allow them to have game day input and control the locker room?
How about hiring Culley was a ploy that would buy time for Caserio and Easterby to wait on their preferred HC? The two year guaranteed contract would certainly indicate that they didn't have much faith in him.
That is also possible. I am just repeating what was reported or bandied about at the time. Watson worked with Culley at the pro-bowl and supposedly got along good with him. Did he ever work with Caldwell?
Texansballer74
The Marine
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SnakeEyes
Under NRG
Culley was a "who is left" HC. We were after other coaches but with a lawsuit involved, we steered clear on one. True, Frazier would have been better. And we have no idea what happened with Lovie. Keep in mind that Easterby was still here and while he and Nick might be friends. We don't know if Nick wanted him or Culley. We only know that that's how it played out.
I know, even after looking that I have yet to see anything saying that Nick Caserio hired Culley.
I know. It was reported by Aaron Wilson. I just find it "convenient" that Wilson was the one reporting it. Also, I might have missed it, but I don't recall Culley or even Watson mentioning this Pro Bowl bonding encounter.
In the grand scheme of things. It doesn't matter. I just find it hard to believe that the Texans would look at Culley's resume, see 25 years of experience without any notable achievements and still hire him because he spent one week in Hawaii with Watson at practice for a glorified flag football game. It just doesn't make sense to me and if true it is one of the worst reasons to hire a HC.
Then again, recently Peyton Manning mentioned Belichick selecting someone for the Pro Bowl because he was dating Pamela Anderson and they were hoping he would bring his girlfriend to Hawaii. So, maybe Culley gave him a coupon to a massage parlor. Who knows.
And he's good at it.
Interesting points. I guess we can add the "NC hands are clean" to the list of dubious TT narratives.
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Texian
Hall of Fame
David Culley is the perfect example. Cal had no clue who Culley was until Easterby and Caserio told Cal that is who the next Texans HC was going to be. Cal said OK and where do I sign. I also concur with the Lovie hiring. Cal saw the 2nd circus was more embarrassing than the first circus. I think this was when Cal also realized he had been had and taken to the cleaners by O'Brien and Easterby on Caserio. Instead of getting Super GM, he got another Belichick flunky AKA Scott Pioli only worse.
Texian
Hall of Fame
My guess is Pep and the RB coach told Nick to bring Eno in for a tryout. Pep gave Nick a thumbs up on Eno until Pep gave Nick a thumbs down on Eno.
He doesn't hire the HC's
He tries to draft the players the coaches want and you dont know that Metchie would've been there. Caserio unlike past GM's ent up and got his guy. I know you aren't used to seeing this as a Texans fan, so it's all new to you.
He hasn't had the money to sign any major FA's if they wanted to come to Kirby, which they dont.
They currently have the 7th most cap space in the NFL. It took a couple of yrs for Caserio to cleanup BOB's mess.
He's had good drafts, even though they weren't what I would've done. A lot of MondayMorning QB'ing going on here.
He's signed plenty of guys off of the WW. Rodgers/Benjamin/Stallworth are just the latest. Earlier this yr the Johnson's etc.... It's up to Lovie to play them.
He's done a few bad things like extend Cooks and bring back DJ. No GM bats .1000. Heck I'm glad he didn't listen to most on this MB and trade Tunsil for a 2nd rd pick. There were a few of us that wanted to keep Tunsil around.
This post is like a grumpy old post of a fan that I guess believed somehow the team was going to be good this yr. Guess what, they probably ain't gonna be good next yr either and that's IF Caserio does a great job in the draft.
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Porky
Hall of Fame
You saying the GM doesn’t hire the coaches doesn’t make it so. And it might also be a matter of semantics. Technically no GM hires a HC. They beat the bushes for the best candidates, sort through them, get interviews for their top choices, owner would usually sit in on those and ask questions as well….then a decision is made after the GM recommends. That final decision might vary team to team, but ultimately yes the owner “hires” the new HC. That doesn’t mean the GM bears no responsibility. This is why most GM’s get two HC’s to get it right, and very rarely a 3rd.
Folks give Shanny & his GM Lynch lots of credit developing & managing their QBs but on the other hand they seem pretty inept to me when it comes to drafting QBs. This Purdy guy obviously was just "dumb luck" as they got him with their last pick inthis years Draft.
And they paid a a small fortune for Lance who's always hurt and I thought Mills outplayed him last season when we played the 49ers.
And all the time they had their winning QB on their roster before either of these guys appeared.
Texian
Hall of Fame
The failed Texans business plan stems from Bob McNair bringing the Cogen Technologies Boardroom to Kirby Dr. McNair felt he could run the Texans from the Kirby Dr. Boardroom Roundtable much like he did at Cogen. After discussion Bob would say go or no go. More bad football decisions come out of that boardroom than good ones. Unfortunately, this is likely to continue because the mindset has not changed. If anything the mindset has gotten worse. The Kirby Boardroom is directly responsible for the performance you see on the field.
Speedy
Former Yeller Dweller
Really?
QB | Comp% | Yards | Y/A | TD/INT | Passer Rating |
Lance | 69% | 249 | 10.8 | 2/1 | 116.0 |
Mills | 65% | 163 | 5.1 | 1/1 | 75.4 |
Interesting way of thinking.
So you think Caserio went to Cal and said Lovie's my guy?
No, but Culley was. I think Culley was meant to be a stop gap until NC's guy became available. But when he did, he sued the NFL and the Texans and Lovie was the leftover
Texian
Hall of Fame
So who was NC's guy? No one thought Brian Flores was going to get fired. It came as a complete shock to everyone. The Flores firing is what got Culley fired. You're correct that the Flores lawsuits ended any possibilities. If NC had a guy it was Josh McDaniels. Even @steelbtexan was promoting McDaniels for most of 2021 as the next Texans head coach in 2022. The problem there is McDaniels did not want to talk to the Texans.
Imagine that. I can't imagine why?
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