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Texans agree to terms with Matt Leinart

Knowing he is most likely a career backup and due to where he was chosen in the draft surprisingly I'd think about signing him but then his Debbie downer attiude just drives me away from him. Based on where and why he was drafted he has already turned out to be a waste in the NFL.
 
I'd rather the Texans sign Pat White...I've always wanted to see Kubiak work with a young mobile qb.
 
Carr Bombed said:
I was just surfing aroung and I found this article posted a month ago about Colt Brennan....
Monday, August 2, 2010
Colt Brennan was surprised when he was cut after practice today
WP = Washington Post


About his surprise when he was cut by the Redskins today, Colt Brennan said:
"I was totally surprised. I actually was walking off the field today and someone asked, 'How'd you do today?' I said I had a good day. It was a good practice, so I said I'd have a good rest of the day. It was definitely a surprise." (WP)


About the Washington cutting him and trading for John Beck today, Colt said:
"It had nothing to do with my play. To be honest with you, it was never a situation with me playing and how I did. It was basically that they always had a real strong interest in John Beck. [Offensive coordinator] Kyle [Shanahan] said he had looked into getting John early on and they couldn't get him. He was excited about my film and interested in working with me. But when this deal came down, they jumped on it. They told me they wanted to give me an opportunity to grow." (WP)


Praising Washington for giving him a chance early on in camp, Colt said:
"They wanted me to have a chance early on in camp. They didn't want to put me in a bad position. Kyle told me I'm a kid who needs reps. Kyle's an awesome guy, and that's the only thing that's really kind of a bummer, because I love this coaching staff. They've been really cool to me and I was building a great relationship with them. But this is a business. They said they would do anything they could to help me. They told me they think I can play, so they just wanted to give me an opportunity to catch on somewhere." (WP)
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http://uhwarriorquotes.blogspot.com/2010/08/colt-brennan-was-surprised-when-he-was.html

Hmm, I wonder if Kubes will get on the phone and ask Kyle and Mike about Colt.
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This appears to be the NFL equivalent of "I'm breaking up with you, but it's not you, it's me!". (It's always you).
 
JamesC said:
I'd rather the Texans sign Pat White...I've always wanted to see Kubiak work with a young mobile qb.
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I'd kinda like to see Kubiak groom White for a year or two myself. But from what I've seen, Kubiak is stuck on tall, relatively immobile, guys who can "make all the throws" that he can teach to "protect the ball" and "make good decisions" so I'm not at all sure he'd know what to do with a QB with actual wheels.
 
JamesC said:
I'd rather the Texans sign Pat White...I've always wanted to see Kubiak work with a young mobile qb.
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Sounds good! We can get the West Virginia trio back together again! Pat White, Steve Slaton, and Owen Schmitt(who was released today). Maybe also grab OL Selvish Capers off the Redskins PS, LB Mortty Ivy off the Rams PS, and QB Jarrett Brown off the 49ers

:sarcasm: ;)
 
Kuharsky provides some information on the story:

The Houston Texans have emerged as a leading candidate to sign former Arizona Cardinals quarterback Matt Leinart, league sources told ESPN NFL Insider Adam Schefter.

The Texans were one of the first teams to contact Leinart after he was released Saturday and have been among the most interested teams, according to the sources.

The Cardinals parted ways with the former Heisman Trophy winner days after Leinart went public with his frustration over being replaced by Cleveland castoff Derek Anderson.

Leinart complained he had outplayed Anderson and that his problems with coach Ken Whisenhunt were "probably away from football." That led to a meeting with Whisenhunt the following day. Although he was unhappy that Leinart took his issues public, Whisenhunt praised how the quarterback has handled things.

"The one thing I want to make very clear is how professional Matt was about the whole situation," the coach said. "I was very impressed with his conversation with me. He thanked the organization, the ownership, for all the time and effort that they had invested in him. He felt like he had gotten better and he had learned a lot and it meant a lot to me to hear him say that."

Leinart played two series in the final preseason game on Thursday night.

Arizona thought it had a steal when Leinart, who led Southern California to two national championships and a third title game appearance, fell to the Cardinals at the No. 10 overall pick in 2006. He started 11 games as a rookie under then-coach Dennis Green, then the first five the following season under new coach Ken Whisenhunt. But the big left-hander then went down with a broken collarbone and Kurt Warner took over.

Warner finished his career with two spectacular seasons, leading Arizona to consecutive NFC West titles, an incredible run to the Super Bowl and a 51-45 overtime victory over Green Bay in a playoff thriller last season.

Leinart threw for 3,893 yards with 14 touchdowns and 20 interceptions with Arizona.
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Kubiak has some stones if he's going to take on this large of a reclamation project. The guy throws lefty, has more picks than TDs, and has never been able to exhibit positive leadership around his teammates.

I hope this is an idea that Smithiak flirted with, and has since decided to abandon. I don't like it, and 98% of us fans here don't like it.
 
GP said:
Kuharsky provides some information on the story:



Kubiak has some stones if he's going to take on this large of a reclamation project. The guy throws lefty, has more picks than TDs, and has never been able to exhibit positive leadership around his teammates.

I hope this is an idea that Smithiak flirted with, and has since decided to abandon. I don't like it, and 98% of us fans here don't like it.
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I'm not going to stress too much about the Texans picking up a 3rd QB off the streets and attempting to repair his career. I won't lay money on the project being successful, but it certainly doesn't deter my optimism for the season or the future.
 
dalemurphy said:
I'm not going to stress too much about the Texans picking up a 3rd QB off the streets and attempting to repair his career. I won't lay money on the project being successful, but it certainly doesn't deter my optimism for the season or the future.
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It would if Matt goes down in week 1 or 2, and Dan O is the starter with Leinart one step away from taking the helm.

I know the thinking here, by Kubiak. He thinks the guy has the tools but hasn't had the right environment. We've got two QBs right now, IIRC. We're going to add one more.

This is probably going to happen. Leinart is going to say all the right things. Kubiak is going to say all the right things.

Kubiak will essentially tell Leinart that the backup job is open for competition. Get in there, during practices, and show us what you got. Because if we're fooling ourselves if we think he's comfortable with Dan O.
 
GP said:
Kuharsky provides some information on the story:



Kubiak has some stones if he's going to take on this large of a reclamation project. The guy throws lefty, has more picks than TDs, and has never been able to exhibit positive leadership around his teammates.

I hope this is an idea that Smithiak flirted with, and has since decided to abandon. I don't like it, and 98% of us fans here don't like it.
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Kubiak isn't trying to acquire value. He's trying to acquire raw talent and develop it into something valuable for use or trade. That's what successful teams do.
 
I don't know that I hate the idea of signing Leinart. The only real risk we run is if he will be a negative personality in the locker room. He will be coming here knowing that is isn't competing for the starting job (which is why I would be surprised if he signs here) so maybe he becomes a good citizen.

What concerns me about this team is Schaub staying healthy. We were very fortunate last season. Maybe I am ignorant but I would rather see a Leinart who has had some time with Kubiak than O-Fer if Schaub gets injured.

Kubiak saw him in person this season so maybe he sees something in him, especially considering the fact that the Texans immediately contacted him. Yeah, yeah, I know that Kubiak saw something in O-Fer too however he must like something better in Leinart if he is so fast to inquire on Leinart.
 
DanO scares me....cut him now....sign whoever. DanO is a loosing season waiting to happen, I know he looks impressive in a uni I dont understand the man crushes people have for a guy who hasnt won anything at any level.
 
What makes anyone believe that "Leinart the Contrarian" will be tamed by "Kubiak the Disciplinarian?" You can't develop a player, if you can't discipline them. It seems funny, at least it does to me, to see "Kubiak" in the same sentence as "Disciplinarian."
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
What makes anyone believe that "Leinart the Contrarian" will be tamed by "Kubiak the Disciplinarian?" You can develop a player, if you can discipline them. It seems funny, at least it does to me, to see "Kubiak" in the same sentence as "Disciplinarian."
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Orlovsky reminds me of Sean Salisbury (the player). For that reason alone I am willing to give anything else a shot.
 
Found an interesting description of Leinart by a senior poster on another board............sounds pretty accurate.

I'd stay far away from Leinart. Weak arm, rocks in the head, poor work ethic, no discipline
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SheTexan said:
Come on now Cloak!! Ya got something against LEFTIES???!:foottap: J/K!!
I liked Leinhart when he came out of USC, and thought the Cards the luckiest team in the NFL. They had the TWO best lookin QBs in the league! :heart:

All kidding aside, I don't like the move. Kubes has made enough mistakes this off season. PLEASE don't let this be another one!!
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What mistakes has Kubiak made, in your opinion? He cut the kicker that cost them games, cut the running back that cost them games, so what "mistakes" has he made?
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
What makes anyone believe that "Leinart the Contrarian" will be tamed by "Kubiak the Disciplinarian?" You can't develop a player, if you can't discipline them. It seems funny, at least it does to me, to see "Kubiak" in the same sentence as "Disciplinarian."
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I do remember Kubiak taking on another Arizona QB that had discipline problems and work ethic issues and ended up making him a playoff QB...

I think that QB got the Broncos to a AFC Championship as well...

Just saying, I mean a blind monkey with 2 left arms is a far better upgrade to Dan O.
 
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Oh, so you just finished watching Leinart's last game on NFL Replay too?
 
Brisco_County said:
Kubiak isn't trying to acquire value. He's trying to acquire raw talent and develop it into something valuable for use or trade. That's what successful teams do.
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That's fine. But what about this season? Leinart is worthless to this team this year. Where's the backup QB?

CloakNNNdagger said:
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Oh, so you just finished watching Leinart's last game on NFL Replay too?
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No, I was catching Orlovsky's "performance" in the 1st half of the Buc game.
 
Carr Bombed said:
I was just surfing aroung and I found this article posted a month ago about Colt Brennan....



http://uhwarriorquotes.blogspot.com/2010/08/colt-brennan-was-surprised-when-he-was.html

Hmm, I wonder if Kubes will get on the phone and ask Kyle and Mike about Colt.
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Colt has never had any NFL experience outside of the preseason, similar to JDB. Also, he wasn't good enough for Kyle or Mike Shanahan, who are widely known to have the same system as Kubiak with the Texans. So, I think the possibility of bringing him in is pretty unlikely.
 
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Texans hope to sign Leinart and have him and Orlovsky playing behind Schaub. Leinart would be given a chance to eventually be the backup.
 
At this point in the season, we are picking up road kill for the last few roster spots. As far as Leinhart is concerned, I just as soon leave him on the road.

Do. Not. Want.

I'd much rather we sign some old age QB from somewhere or give Booty a chance. If Schaub goes down, we're screwed anyway. DanO will get us all the way to the 6 yard line and lose the ball. Leinhart probably won't even get that far. Booty will overthrow everyone. We best just hope by some miracle Schaub is the man of steel this year.
 
Thorn said:
At this point in the season, we are picking up road kill for the last few roster spots. As far as Leinhart is concerned, I just as soon leave him on the road.

Do. Not. Want.

I'd much rather we sign some old age QB from somewhere or give Booty a chance. If Schaub goes down, we're screwed anyway. DanO will get us all the way to the 6 yard line and lose the ball. Leinhart probably won't even get that far. Booty will overthrow everyone. We best just hope by some miracle Schaub is the man of steel this year.
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I think for that reason alone this could be a very low risk signing. The guy does have talent. Getting cut from the Cards could knock him down a few pegs and make him realize he needs to work and not just get by on his talent alone. If it doesn't work then so be it, it's not like he is being looked at as the future of the position.
 
midgetonadonkey said:
I think for that reason alone this could be a very low risk signing. The guy does have talent. Getting cut from the Cards could knock him down a few pegs and make him realize he needs to work and not just get by on his talent alone. If it doesn't work then so be it, it's not like he is being looked at as the future of the position.
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He's a leftie, our line is built to protect a rightie. I'd just as soon not deal with that issue. But, whatever. You're right in one thing, it's not like whoever we sign in the next few days is the future.

Well, let's hope not at any rate. :eek:
 
Thorn said:
At this point in the season, we are picking up road kill for the last few roster spots. As far as Leinhart is concerned, I just as soon leave him on the road.

Do. Not. Want.

I'd much rather we sign some old age QB from somewhere or give Booty a chance. If Schaub goes down, we're screwed anyway. DanO will get us all the way to the 6 yard line and lose the ball. Leinhart probably won't even get that far. Booty will overthrow everyone. We best just hope by some miracle Schaub is the man of steel this year.
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Matt has come a long way since being the backup for Vick in Atlanta, he's always been a playmaker with his accurate arm. He's progressed in every season since becoming the starter for Houston in '07, even with the injuries.

Last year Schaub finally put it altogether while avoiding injuries and did what everyone outside of Houston thought to be impossible, led the league in Passing yards. I'm not saying he is impervious to injury because of one clean year, but it shouldn't be assumed that he'll get injured and it definitely wouldn't be a "miracle" either.
 
Brisco_County said:
Kubiak isn't trying to acquire value. He's trying to acquire raw talent and develop it into something valuable for use or trade. That's what successful teams do.
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The premise is flawed.

There has to be something there to begin with. Leinart has NOTHING there.

If he did, there would have been about 7 or 8 teams trying to trade for him during the past few weeks when this debacle began spiraling out of control. NOBODY wanted to trade for him. Teams weren't interested enough to make a trade that worked on both ends. That's as telling as when no teams traded for David Carr. Doesn't that strike anyone as being eerily similar?

Flash-forward to when Leinart was cut. Why wasn't there about 5 or 6 teams (Tampa Bay Buccaneers anybody? Steelers? Rams? Vikings? Bills? etc.) jumping all over the chance to get this magnificent QB that the Texans are now hot for?

Nothing is impossible. But it just seems damn comical, to me, that someone with the Texans (Maybe even multiple staff persons) are THIS interested in the guy. In a supply & demand climate, such as what the NFL is, teams are essentially saying there is no demand for the guy. We'll let proven RBs slip by, by the dozen, but here's Leinart and we can't contain ourselves? LOL.

(Sigh)

They keep things interesting, I gotta' give 'em that much. :choke:
 
And we already have trouble spelling his name.

It's not Leinhart.

It's not Leinhert.

LEIN ART. Leinart.

LOL. If you suck so bad that people cannot spell your last name correctly, then that says it all.

Bad vibes about this potential acquisition. Bad vibes.
 
GP said:
Leinart has NOTHING there.

If he did, there would have been about 7 or 8 teams trying to trade for him during the past few weeks when this debacle began spiraling out of control. NOBODY wanted to trade for him. Teams weren't interested enough to make a trade that worked on both ends. That's as telling as when no teams traded for David Carr. Doesn't that strike anyone as being eerily similar?
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The comparison to Carr is a valid one. Nobody wanted to trade for Carr and take on his salary because nobody wanted him as a starter and he wouldn't be worth starter's money as a backup.

But Carr has been a reasonably good backup.

Leinart wasn't pursued in a trade because nobody wants to pay his starter's salary when he is really more suited to be a backup.

But Leinart could be a reasonably good backup.
 
TexansFanatic said:
The comparison to Carr is a valid one. Nobody wanted to trade for Carr and take on his salary because nobody wanted him as a starter and he wouldn't be worth starter's money as a backup.

But Carr has been a reasonably good backup.

Leinart wasn't pursued in a trade because nobody wants to pay his starter's salary when he is really more suited to be a backup.

But Leinart could be a reasonably good backup.
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Yeah, except people get a little blinded by the "backup" premise. They are a backup one second, and a starter the next.

It takes ONE injury for a backup to become the starter. I don't want any part of Leinart being one step away from being the starter here.

This team should have swallowed its collective ego and just traded a 3rd or 4th to the Vikes for Sage. It makes all the sense in the world. Sometimes you win a trade scenario, and sometimes you lose. This was a time for Kubiak to swallow his pride and go get a guy (Sage) who was at least a serviceable backup. But the same people who boo'd Kris Brown for missing the 59-yarder in the Bucs preseason game would boo Sage if he hit the field for us.

Sometimes Kubiak just makes decisions for wrong reasons, IMO. He avoided quality RBs, over and over and over again, because of...well, there's really no telling why. Apparently the salary demands were too high for us to bring in Benson. Not even a sniff of LJ. Nor of LT. Nor of Thomas Jones. We haven't landed another RB as of now.

It's like cutting Kris Brown has taken a lot of piss and vinegar out of Kubiak. I guess we CAN say that we just brought in Dixon and Wall. So that's good.

But the Leinart possibility is just bizarre to me. I'd rather have Graham Harrell than Leinart. Give me someone who knows how to pass the damn ball. That's what this offense is about.
 
GP said:
This team should have swallowed its collective ego and just traded a 3rd or 4th to the Vikes for Sage. It makes all the sense in the world. Sometimes you win a trade scenario, and sometimes you lose. This was a time for Kubiak to swallow his pride and go get a guy (Sage) who was at least a serviceable backup.
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Man, I couldn't agree with that more. The reason we let Sage go the first time is because his contract was ending and he wanted to be a starter somewhere so the Texans traded him and got something instead of nothing.

Taking him back for a draft pick wouldn't even have to be considered an admission of a mistake because they had no choice the first time around but to let him go.

Very pissed they let Sage go to the Giants without a fight.

GP said:
Yeah, except people get a little blinded by the "backup" premise. They are a backup one second, and a starter the next.

It takes ONE injury for a backup to become the starter. I don't want any part of Leinart being one step away from being the starter here.
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So you feel better about Orlovsky than you would Leinart?
 
im also on the No team only becasue he will take up a roster spot lets just man up and go into the season with 2 QB Matt.... SCHAUB and DanO no need wasting a roster spot

But kubes man i will never doubt him on QB's he did pick up schaub u know
 
GP said:
No.

I'm fearful of our QB and RB situation as it relates to "backup" status.

There's nothing there in both roster positions. It's scary to me.
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I agree. We're a Schaub injury away from another dismal season.

But, if given the choice of either Leinart or Orlovsky at the backup QB spot, I'd choose Leinart simply because I think Orlovsky sucks worse. If you're calculating degrees of suckage and who sucks more I think Dan O wins (or loses?).
 
Guys he's a backup, maybe he can come in and show that he does have something, if he doesn't then it's not really a loss as it should not play into our win/loss I'm not sure why everyone is getting all worked up.

If we loss Matt, we are screwed anyways, how many teams can recover from losing their starting QB? Not many, if any.
 
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