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Texans acquire veteran quarterback Cody Pickett

I've heard of him, but don't know much about him. Seems kind of odd that on the day training camp opens, all the sudden they realize they have only two vets. It's kind of like they said Doh! We only have two vets. Go pick up the phone Rick. What, they didn't know this last week?
 
Porky said:
I've heard of him, but don't know much about him. Seems kind of odd that on the day training camp opens, all the sudden they realize they have only two vets. It's kind of like they said Doh! We only have two vets. Go pick up the phone Rick. What, they didn't know this last week?
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So.................how do I save on gas costs?
 
WOW!!!

Yeah I saw this guy play... the 49ers were so bad the whole place would start cheering for him! Cody Cody Cody!

They actually meant it too... mostly.

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This Blog Shot sums it up for what I think most of San Fran thinks of the Cowboy
http://blogs.mercurynews.com/bay_area_sports/2005/11/commander_cody_.html

Commander Cody And The Lost Planet 49ers

You know, I am not a huge fan of Prince Charles and Camilla. The whole stupid royalty thing escapes me. According to family lore, my ancestors fought against the British in the Revolutionary War. Once when I was covering the Wimbledon tennis championships, I purposely sat down when some Duke of something-or-other entered the stadium and everyone else stood up. The only royals I would ever show up to watch are the Kansas City Royals.

However.

I must admit that on Sunday, I was very impressed with Prince Charles and his Duchess. They must be smarter than they look. They were visiting the Bay Area and wisely chose not to attend the 49er game.
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He was not all that popular in Huskie land either or I should say split popularity. To be fair not much of it was really his fault. Pickett was recruited by Rick Neuheisel ( Aikman's buddy ) and kind of got linked up with him and some of the problems that were going on at that time ( which had nothing to do with Pickett as far as I know ).

guess I am going to have to change my avatar up now too...
 
From the link:

Kubiak wanted another veteran quarterback to join David Carr and Sage Rosenfels. The first-year head coach said if Carr or Rosenfels were injured, he didn't want to be left with only one veteran on the roster.
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Should have come up with a better spin than veteran. Hard to see how this 3rd year QB with 2 starts and worse stats is more of a veteran than 4th year QB with 2 starts Ragone. Just say you like him better and haven't seen the progress from the other youngsters.
 
Picket impressed me....for 1 half of football. He had all the talent but just could't put it all together to impress anyone. He's a career 3rd stringer. I'm sure his agent probably called some of his friends up for a connection with a team...and looky here, it's the Texans. Training Camper fodder.
 
If we wanted another veteran, couldn't we just have kept Tony Banks? He's probably a better QB than this guy. Banks and Rosenfels could have battled for 2nd string QB spot.
 
Pretty brutal to get cut/whatever from a team who's starter throws 1 TD for every 11 INT's.:twocents:
 
Maybe with the genius of Kub and Kyle, he can meet himself coming and going.....................and Pickett goes back.....he let's the ball fly.............could it be, yes it is .................a one-handed grab by Pickett at the goal line.........Touchdown!!!!!:francis: :francis::tease: :francis:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
Maybe with the genius of Kub and Kyle, he can meet himself coming and going.....................and Pickett goes back.....he let's the ball fly.............could it be, yes it is .................a one-handed grab by Pickett at the goal line.........Touchdown!!!!!:francis: :francis::tease: :francis:
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If that's the case, he'll be the 2nd QB in Texans history to complete a pass to himself. Dave Ragone did it a few years ago.
 
How is Pickett any different from Ragone? Looked up on ESPN and the Insider scouting report, no real difference.

We cut Ragone, Bengals pick him up and then trade him, and then we make a trade for Pickett.

This is for the third string spot.

This seems really strange. This team and organization has a lot more to worry about than messing around with who is the third string QB. In addition, any team is in big trouble if it is playing it's 3rd string QB. This seems like one of things you worry about, but you don't do anything about it because there are not enough resources to solve every problem and you are pretty much screwed anyway if it happens.

I understand waiving Ragone, but we basically traded for virtually the same guy.

Can someone please explain this to me? There must be a finer point and technical issue that I am missing.

Waive Ragone and go naked and the 3rd string QB spot, I thought that was the plan.
 
TexanSam said:
If that's the case, he'll be the 2nd QB in Texans history to complete a pass to himself. Dave Ragone did it a few years ago.
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He's in good company........Marino caught one pass in his career vs. New England, when he caught his own deflected pass for a six-yard loss.
 
I half suspect that the FO was quietly pursuing another veteran QB(s) along the way, but that deal(s) fell through and so we sort of defaulted to Pickett.
 
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
Would the Texans really give up a draft pick for some guy that is going to just be training camp fodder?
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Exactly, that is what I don't understand.

Maybe it is a conditional draft pick, meaning conditional in that he has to make the team.
 
jerek said:
I half suspect that the FO was quietly pursuing another veteran QB(s) along the way, but that deal(s) fell through and so we sort of defaulted to Pickett.
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Of all the issues this organization has, why is it such a big deal who is the 2nd or 3rd string QB?

Fix the other stuff first, and worry about this later.
 
STEEL BLUE TEXANS said:
Would the Texans really give up a draft pick for some guy that is going to just be training camp fodder and won't even make the final roster?
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probably not...I didn't look to see we gave up a pick for him. This is an interesting move.
 
Vinny said:
probably not...I didn't look to see we gave up a pick for him. This is an interesting move.
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That's exactly why I previously said " I don't see IT (the logic)" ...please help me understand this "sly" move.
 
Cloak, many of the 9er fans thought Pickett would have not have made it out of camp and are happy that Nolan got something out of him instead of releasing him.
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
That's exactly why I previously said " I don't see IT (the logic)" ...please help me understand this "sly" move.
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It's because he can move in the pocket and work bootlegs, waggles, and all of the other things that a mobile QB can do.

He is a slash WR and can play special teams.

Ragone could not.

You have to have three QBs on your team ( at least one tagged as an emergency QB ).
 
Ummm...Cody Pickett, is probably one of the worst pick ups the texans have this off-season..he only has 1 start, and he was 1-13 almost as bad as Ryan Leaf...who was 1-15......so ya...

His Senior Year at Washington he threw 86 Ints...so honestly i would have to wonder why this guy is in the NFL....but ok....
 
TwinSisters said:
It's because he can move in the pocket and work bootlegs, waggles, and all of the other things that a mobile QB can do.

He is a slash WR and can play special teams.

Ragone could not.

You have to have three QBs on your team ( at least one tagged as an emergency QB ).
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All right, that makes sense to me. Fair enough. Thanks.

But his scouting reporter on ESPN Insider doesn't discuss any of his non-quarterback skills.
 
Vinny said:
Cloak, many of the 9er fans thought Pickett would have not have made it out of camp and are happy that Nolan got something out of him instead of releasing him.
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This is the press release from Nolan.
http://49ers.com/pressbox/news_detail.php?PRKey=1967

The fans don't like Pickett because of his miserable play that was better than their 1st round pick's record setting miserable play... so go figure. EDIT: I should also add that Pickett was a pick-up under Dennis Erickson, a coach that wasn't popular with the 49er fans. But yet is a bit of a coaching icon in the Northwest.
http://www.honoluluadvertiser.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060727/SPORTS04/607270325/1049/SPORTS
You can put two and two together after reading this.

( Alex Smith almost topped Ryan Leaf... and he might have, had he played all 16 games )
 
Vinny said:
Well, the fans are split...I know cause I run their message board too. :francis:
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Well Vinny... you know that only some fans hang out on the message boards.

( BUT I am not going to carry a debate about fans in 49er land... I will rest on Vince Young and the Houston Texans' message board )
 
TwinSisters said:
It's because he can move in the pocket and work bootlegs, waggles, and all of the other things that a mobile QB can do.

He is a slash WR and can play special teams.

Ragone could not.

You have to have three QBs on your team ( at least one tagged as an emergency QB ).
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I have a hard time accepting that logic. He has had never any significant had game time experience as a WR or ST player. He has shown no consistency. The 9s were "toying" with him in the slot. He never played anything but QB in HS, college or in the NFL...........:


Pickett's future as 49ers QB in doubt
Kevin Lynch, Chronicle Staff Writer

Tuesday, June 6, 2006

Cody Pickett's 6-foot-3 inch frame, powerful arm, fleet feet and toughness have made him a prospect and fan favorite. But with Friday's signing of former Vikings QB Shaun Hill, Pickett's days as a 49ers quarterback could be numbered.

On Monday, Hill joined Pickett, starter Alex Smith, Trent Dilfer and Jesse Palmer at the 49ers' organized team activity (OTA). Although Dilfer's surgically repaired right knee won't allow him to participate in full practice until training camp opens July 27, his roster spot is assured, as is Smith's.

Palmer's fluid throwing motion and strong arm make him a front-runner for the third quarterback spot. Hill spent four seasons in Minnesota without throwing a pass in a regular-season game. The 49ers signed him to compete for the third spot.

The Hill signing might push Pickett to another position. Last year, he dabbled as a coverage man on punts and kickoffs and did well as a receiver on the scout team in practice.

"I want to play quarterback, that's what I've done my whole life," Pickett said Monday. "(But) as a third quarterback, you don't get a chance to get out there and play. ... We have Alex and Trent here now, so I want to be out on the field, I don't want to be just standing around."

Coaches have discussed moving Pickett to receiver.

"I want to be here," Pickett said. "If they want me to play receiver, I'll do it."

The 49ers wanted Pickett to play in NFL Europe this spring. When Pickett resisted, the 49ers relented. A stint in Europe would have allowed Pickett, a seventh-round pick in 2004, to work on his mechanics, which former offensive coordinator Mike McCarthy tried to refashion last year.

"It's been tough on Cody," vice president of player personnel Scot McCloughan said. "He had a lot of different coaches try to change his mechanics."

Still working on his release, Pickett looks erratic in practice. He struggled in his two starts last season, completing one pass in 13 attempts in the 47-mph gusts at Chicago's Soldier Field on Nov. 13.

So far in the OTA, Pickett mainly has played quarterback. But when training camp begins, he might be splitting time between receiver and quarterback.

"I like Cody. He's competitive, he's tough," head coach Mike Nolan said. "I think he makes us better by competing for jobs and maybe winning those jobs. I don't think (his future) will be at quarterback right now the way it stands."

My question stands open.......Please someone, show me the logic.
 
TwinSisters said:
WOW!!!

Yeah I saw this guy play... the 49ers were so bad the whole place would start cheering for him! Cody Cody Cody!

They actually meant it too... mostly.
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Yep yep, that bad and we still beat you guys last year. :tease: ...I congratulate you guys on Cody...maybe he'll get a shot over there...all I can remember is that Chicago game where he was 1 for 13. :francis:
 
CloakNNNdagger said:
My question stands open.......Please someone, show me the logic.
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Ask yourself why would a coach want to move a QB to WR if he could not show some type of speed or in the very least some type of mobility?
 
hollywood_texan said:
How is Pickett any different from Ragone? Looked up on ESPN and the Insider scouting report, no real difference.

We cut Ragone, Bengals pick him up and then trade him, and then we make a trade for Pickett.

This is for the third string spot.

This seems really strange. This team and organization has a lot more to worry about than messing around with who is the third string QB. In addition, any team is in big trouble if it is playing it's 3rd string QB. This seems like one of things you worry about, but you don't do anything about it because there are not enough resources to solve every problem and you are pretty much screwed anyway if it happens.

I understand waiving Ragone, but we basically traded for virtually the same guy.

Can someone please explain this to me? There must be a finer point and technical issue that I am missing.

Waive Ragone and go naked and the 3rd string QB spot, I thought that was the plan.
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...good points. I liked Ragone and at least he did a little something as a pro--MVP in Europe. Something just does not 'smell right' here. Why didn't we bring in this guy before the camps to learn the system? Like another poster said, this guy must just be here to throw the ball around because of all the extra receivers in camp...
 
DallasNiner said:
Yep yep, that bad and we still beat you guys last year. :tease: ...I congratulate you guys on Cody...maybe he'll get a shot over there...all I can remember is that Chicago game where he was 1 for 13. :francis:
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O yeah man... that was something else. That Chicago game... HOLY crap that was bad!

I remember trying to see if that was an NFL record... and I don't think it was, but it was close. I remember there being some debate about what the number of attempts would have to be to make it a qualifer!

Although I have to say... the wind was blowing REALLY hard that day. I am serious it was like 20 knots or something.
 
TwinSisters said:
O yeah man... that was something else. That Chicago game... HOLY crap that was bad!

I remember trying to see if that was an NFL record... and I don't think it was, but it was close. I remember there being some debate about what the number of attempts would have to be to make it a qualifer!

Although I have to say... the wind was blowing REALLY hard that day. I am serious it was like 20 knots or something.
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The wind was blowing hard...but as a pro-level QB you kind of expect him to adjust. The other QB did.
 
TwinSisters said:
O yeah man... that was something else. That Chicago game... HOLY crap that was bad!

I remember trying to see if that was an NFL record... and I don't think it was, but it was close. I remember there being some debate about what the number of attempts would have to be to make it a qualifer!

Although I have to say... the wind was blowing REALLY hard that day. I am serious it was like 20 knots or something.
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Although we do have some goober fans that'll tell you he's the next coming of Randall Cunningham or a Mini-Jake Plummer :francis: :homer:
 
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