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jradMIT

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Garett Bolles OT COM
Dalvin Cook RB COM
Evan Engram TE SenB
Gerald Everett TE SenB
Wayne Gallman RB COM
OJ Howard TE SenB
Pat Mahomes QB COM
Taylor McNamara EW
Leon McQuay S EW
Jalen Myrick CB COM
Montae Nicholson COM
Jabril Peppers S COM
Jeremy Sprinkle TE SenB
Cameron Sutton CB SenB
Tedric Thompson S COM
Dalvin Thompson DT/NT
Greg Ward QB COM
Chris Wormley DE SenB


Seems to be S, CB, TE, RB dominated. I think you can infer that will be a focus for the draft or where they see the most value.
 
thunderkyss said:
Probably had the whole board room
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Not you, but spinning off you:

Folks talking about a boardroom mentality as if it is some sort of break with a clear hierarchy are showing a clear lack of understanding of effective heirarchy. They believe in a kabuki theater of chain of command, one so segregated as to defy logic.

Nobody lives CoC more than the military. Decisions don't get made as layers of autocrats with fiefdoms. At every level there are meetings/briefings leading to decisions. Opinions are sought on inverted rank - lowest speaks 1st and so on to the one in command. There is often consensus leading to "make it happen" and delegation of pieces. Or a command decision is made between competing views. They also have the option of going up the chain further (and it is not uncommon for that superior to 'sit in on' such meetings).

Only a fool doesn't coordinate their hands and feet into a cohesive plan.
 
jradMIT said:
Garett Bolles OT COM
Dalvin Cook RB COM
Evan Engram TE SenB
Gerald Everett TE SenB
Wayne Gallman RB COM
OJ Howard TE SenB
Pat Mahomes QB COM
Taylor McNamara EW
Leon McQuay S EW
Jalen Myrick CB COM
Montae Nicholson COM
Jabril Peppers S COM
Jeremy Sprinkle TE SenB
Cameron Sutton CB SenB
Tedric Thompson S COM
Dalvin Thompson DT/NT
Greg Ward QB COM
Chris Wormley DE SenB


Seems to be S, CB, TE, RB dominated. I think you can infer that will be a focus for the draft or where they see the most value.
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With Osweiler gone now and Romo possibly on the way, I wonder if Mahomes may be on their radar as a long term answer. He could sit behind Romo, or whoever they get in FA, and learn the system for awhile and then be ready to take over when Romo, or whoever, is gone. Savage could always fill in if there is an injury to the starter in the 1st year or so while Mahomes sits and learns. Just speculation at this point but with Brock out of the way and the Romo situation heating up it could happen.
 
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Texian said:
Half of the Boardroom doesn't even attend the Combine.
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perhaps their job was to stay 'home' and evaluate game film or work the phones and talk to former coaches of the prospects. Someone had to stay behind to do the background work. So when the ones who attended the shorts & t-shirt olympics come back with a list of guys they were impressed with, the ones that did the film study can offer informed opinions on who is a football player and who was a workout warrior.
Ever heard the phrase: "Do YOUR job."...?
 
ObsiWan said:
perhaps their job was to stay 'home' and evaluate game film or work the phones and talk to former coaches of the prospects. Someone had to stay behind to do the background work. So when the ones who attended the shorts & t-shirt olympics come back with a list of guys they were impressed with, the ones that did the film study can offer informed opinions on who is a football player and who was a workout warrior.
Ever heard the phrase: "Do YOUR job."...?
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You do know you're talking about Bob and Cal, the other half of the board room. Sorry I don't see them doing what you are describing.
 
Texian said:
You do know you're talking about Bob and Cal, the other half of the board room. Sorry I don't see them doing what you are describing.
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I wouldn't really want those two either at the combine or evaluating film any more than I'd want Donald Trump putting in the plumbing or electrical wiring on one of his properties. They've got people better suited to do those jobs than they are.
 
ObsiWan said:
I wouldn't really want those two either at the combine or evaluating film any more than I'd want Donald Trump putting in the plumbing or electrical wiring on one of his properties. They've got people better suited to do those jobs than they are.
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So you got your two main decision makers not participating in the process. Interesting. Even Jerah goes to the Combine. I'd venture to say that Donald Trump knows a lot more about plumbing and wiring than Bob and Cal know about evaluating player personnel for a football team.
 
Texian said:
So you got your two main decision makers not participating in the process. Interesting. Even Jerah goes to the Combine. I'd venture to say that Donald Trump knows a lot more about plumbing and wiring than Bob and Cal know about evaluating player personnel for a football team.
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Jerry Jones is the GM of the Cowboys. Neither McNair claims (publically anyway) to be the GM of the Texans.

If we follow the model that you've been preaching ad nauseum over the years, they should "get out of the way" and have competent "football guys" at the the combine and college pro days making the appropriate evaluations and reporting back to them (the McNairs) with a list of desirable prospects and why they liked them.

Now you say you want the McNairs in on the player selection process.

Make up your frickin' mind.
 
ObsiWan said:
Jerry Jones is the GM of the Cowboys. Neither McNair claims (publically anyway) to be the GM of the Texans.

If we follow the model that you've been preaching ad nauseum over the years, they should "get out of the way" and have competent "football guys" at the the combine and college pro days making the appropriate evaluations and reporting back to them (the McNairs) with a list of desirable prospects and why they liked them.

Now you say you want the McNairs in on the player selection process.

Make up your frickin' mind.
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My mind is made up. However you've made it perfectly clear that you're not familiar with how The Texans Board Room works. If you're interested this is as good as any place for you to start: http://www.espn.com/blog/houston-te...mcnair-take-a-balanced-approach-in-draft-prep
 
Texian said:
My mind is made up. However you've made it perfectly clear that you're not familiar with how The Texans Board Room works. If you're interested this is as good as any place for you to start: http://www.espn.com/blog/houston-te...mcnair-take-a-balanced-approach-in-draft-prep
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Thanks for the link. Proves McNair lets the football guys do their jobs without him in the way.

The Texans are in the thick of their meetings right now for the draft that begins on April 30 in Chicago. They have the 16th overall pick and nine others, including three compensatory picks. The work done now is really on the back end of the process. For months the Texans' personnel department has studied players throughout the country. Coaches joined the process shortly after the season ended, conducting interviews at the NFL scouting combine, fanning out to selected pro days and meeting with players on site.

Cal McNair attends some meetings, but not all of them, and he didn't attend the NFL scouting combine.

"I’m really learning about the players," he said. "The scouts have studied them for a year and Rick has studied them. They are sharing the information amongst themselves and really getting Rick prepared for the draft. I’m just kind of over the side of it listening and soaking it up. See what the class looks like."

He considers listening to be a big part of his role at that point.

"Typically where I get involved is more when we’re talking in a meeting with dad, Rick, Bill O’Brien and myself -- that level," Cal McNair said. There's an exchange of ideas at that level, and an effort to reach a consensus.
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Isn't that what you've been preaching? "Move aside and let the 'football guys' do their jobs?? They're doing that and you're still b!tching that the McNairs aren't at the combine.

Either you want them to get out of the way or not. Pick one.
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ObsiWan said:
Thanks for the link. Proves McNair lets the football guys do their jobs without him in the way.

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Isn't that what you've been preaching? "Move aside and let the 'football guys' do their jobs?? They're doing that and you're still b!tching that the McNairs aren't at the combine.

Either you want them to get out of the way or not. Pick one.
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"Cal McNair attends some meetings, but not all of them, and he didn't attend the NFL scouting combine."

That's what I have been preaching but if I'm running around playing GM and a final decision maker I'm NOT going to be all hat and no cattle. I would retire from the social circuit and do all the home work that is required. I certainly wouldn't be a part timer. Either that or I get out of player personnel decision making business altogether.

What you're describing is half azz and mediocre.
 
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Texian said:
"Cal McNair attends some meetings, but not all of them, and he didn't attend the NFL scouting combine."

That's what I have been preaching but if I'm running around playing GM and a final decision maker I'm NOT going to be all hat and no cattle. I would retire from the social circuit and do all the home work that is required. I certainly wouldn't be a part timer. Either that or I get out of player personnel decision making business altogether.

What you're describing is half azz and mediocre.
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Is learning the game and the players wrong? As long as he stays out of the decision making I don't think so. If he has to make a final decision as owner it should be an informed one.

No boss ignorant of his company will ever succeed
 
JB said:
Is learning the game and the players wrong? As long as he stays out of the decision making I don't think so. If he has to make a final decision as owner it should be an informed one.

No boss ignorant of his company will ever succeed
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Even if he's involved in the decision making... so what. As long as it's not something like, "I think you're wrong, Ed Reed has at least three years left in him." & more like, "I thought you said you could win it all with Brock. Dad, isn't that what he said?"
 
JB said:
Is learning the game and the players wrong? As long as he stays out of the decision making I don't think so. If he has to make a final decision as owner it should be an informed one.

No boss ignorant of his company will ever succeed
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thunderkyss said:
Even if he's involved in the decision making... so what. As long as it's not something like, "I think you're wrong, Ed Reed has at least three years left in him." & more like, "I thought you said you could win it all with Brock. Dad, isn't that what he said?"
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Thank you. You guys saved me keystrokes. I would add that the "football guys" the Texans hired to do the scouting and make personnel assessments bring the data necessary to make informed decisions to the HC and coordinators. They make up their minds on which prospects they like. ONLY if there is a "tie" on who to go after does Cal or Uncle Bob step in and break it.
 
JB said:
Is learning the game and the players wrong? As long as he stays out of the decision making I don't think so. If he has to make a final decision as owner it should be an informed one.

No boss ignorant of his company will ever succeed
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There in lies the problem, he's not staying out of the decision making. He has a seat at the decision making table.
 
steelbtexan said:
Cal McNair defacto Gm should scare the crap out of all Texans fans.
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Where do y'all come up with this crap? Even Texian's article sounds like Cal is little boy finally being allowed in the room. Sure McNair probably intends Cal to inherit but right now there is nothing to say Cal is driving the bus.
 
infantrycak said:
Where do y'all come up with this crap? Even Texian's article sounds like Cal is little boy finally being allowed in the room. Sure McNair probably intends Cal to inherit but right now there is nothing to say Cal is driving the bus.
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I agree with you, if that's the case and you're probably right.

But my point still stands.

Cal is the epitomy of born on 3rd base and thinks he hit a triple.

Cal makes Irsay/York look smart.
 
infantrycak said:
Observation of what? The guy almost never speaks in public. Something about the way he stands next to dad while Bob speaks?
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That mustache must remind him of a bad experience he had as a kid.

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thunderkyss said:
It's insane for someone to have such an opinion of someone they don't even know. Never met. I just don't understand.
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A friend of mine that I've known for years and trust has met, worked for, been around numerous times, and had years worth of conversations and dealings with Cal and from what he tells me, Steelbtexans opinion is pretty dead on accurate. Cal is riding daddies coat tails, does little to no work for the organization (which is probably a good thing), and is strictly on the payroll because daddy owns the team.
 
Wolf6151 said:
A friend of mine that I've known for years and trust has met, worked for, been around numerous times, and had years worth of conversations and dealings with Cal and from what he tells me, Steelbtexans opinion is pretty dead on accurate. Cal is riding daddies coat tails, does little to no work for the organization (which is probably a good thing), and is strictly on the payroll because daddy owns the team.
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For an extremely high profile executive that 42" (+?) waistline suggest a life of leisure without much discipline.
 
Wolf6151 said:
A friend of mine that I've known for years and trust has met, worked for, been around numerous times, and had years worth of conversations and dealings with Cal and from what he tells me, Steelbtexans opinion is pretty dead on accurate. Cal is riding daddies coat tails, does little to no work for the organization (which is probably a good thing), and is strictly on the payroll because daddy owns the team.
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Here's another player they're showing interest in. At 5'7" tall, he's too small & he doesn't show much history as a return specialist. I wonder what they see in him?

Aaron Wilson‏Verified account@AaronWilson_NFL 8h8 hours ago




Texans displaying interest in San Jose State wide receiver Tim Crawley, according to a source

http://www.sjsuspartans.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/tim_crawley_845757.html

Maybe they're looking at him for his 2013 & 2014 kick off return yards average (18.6 & 22.3 respectively).

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/players/playerpage/1999433/tim-crawley
 
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I like the smaller players as return specialists. If they've got good speed & quickness, they can lurk behind the bigger blockers & then dart out for huge returns. Y'all remember Carl Roaches? He wasn't exceptionally fast, but he consistently ripped off 20, 30 & occasionally 50 yard returns. The returner doesn't have to take it to the house to be effective. A 20-50 yard rip is huge for field position & swinging the momentum in your favor. Hopefully, the Texans are looking for someone like that.
 
How many players have the Texans drafted over the years that they never met with? And vice/versa
 
Hottoddie said:
I like the smaller players as return specialists. If they've got good speed & quickness, they can lurk behind the bigger blockers & then dart out for huge returns. Y'all remember Carl Roaches? He wasn't exceptionally fast, but he consistently ripped off 20, 30 & occasionally 50 yard returns. The returner doesn't have to take it to the house to be effective. A 20-50 yard rip is huge for field position & swinging the momentum in your favor. Hopefully, the Texans are looking for someone like that.
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Fuller was a pretty good PR last yr.

Ervin not so much.
 
JB said:
How many players have the Texans drafted over the years that they never met with? And vice/versa
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Last yr if I remember correctly the Sr. Bowl interviews were the tip off to how Ricky McNair drafted.
 
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JB said:
How many players have the Texans drafted over the years that they never met with? And vice/versa
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A lot. It's not always an absolute indicator of interest.

That said:

Texans worked out Nebraska wide receiver Brandon Reilly

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The Texans have already shown interest in San Jose State wide receiver Tim Crawley and now have reportedly already worked out Nebraska wide receiver Brandon Reilly.
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Brisco_County said:
A lot. It's not always an absolute indicator of interest.
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I'm sure they are interested in a lot of players they don't/can't meet with. But rarely do they actually draft players they've actually had meetings/workouts with. Some of that could be the value vs. draft slot the player actually gets taken at. Some of that may be deception. But meeting with a player is not a strong indicator of a desire to draft said player
 
JB said:
I'm sure they are interested in a lot of players they don't/can't meet with. But rarely do they actually draft players they've actually had meetings/workouts with. Some of that could be the value vs. draft slot the player actually gets taken at. Some of that may be deception. But meeting with a player is not a strong indicator of a desire to draft said player
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As I pointed out upthread the Sr. Bowl was a tip off to who Ricky drafted.
 
I've been reading about other teams starting to bring in college players for private workouts and interviews. I haven't seen any news about the Texans players bringing anyone in. I'm out in California, so maybe I'm just not hearing news.

I believe each team gets to bring in 30 players for private meetings, not including local players. Can we get a list going on players who visit the Texans?
 
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