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Yea the refs cost us the game....*shakes head*....whoa I had a flashback to last year, sorry.
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actually I didn't agree with the 4th-1 call either. Unlike yourself though, even in 2005, I have never 'boo-ed' inside the stadium at the Texans. Guess I am an ***** for never booing, huh.
If we had showed to have even an mediocre running game at any time during the game, I would have completely agreed with THAT call. Showing that we couldn't get 2 yds in 3 tries from the 2 yd line for a TD, early in the game, was a direct reflection of our LACK of a running game. Hence that call, with intent of getting some distance out of the endzone, was a wasted call to me. And obviously gaining ONE WHOLE YD during the play, showed it was a wasted call. The very next play, from our 4 yd line, only netted 19 yds.
We ran very poorly yesterday and passed very well.
serious as a heart attack. We averaged 5.2 yds a pass and 2.6 yds per run. So I am being totally serious when I said we were passing well, compared to running. Twice as well. Schaub ended up being the 3rd highest passing QB for the week, behind Romo, and his comback, and Favre and his loss.First of all what game were you watching? You said we were passing the ball well? Are you being serious? We had 5 or 6 nice passing plays.
serious as a heart attack. We averaged 5.2 yds a pass and 2.6 yds per run. So I am being totally serious when I said we were passing well, compared to running. Twice as well. Schaub ended up being the 3rd highest passing QB for the week, behind Romo, and his comback, and Favre and his loss.
You can't use the 'we were going for the first down' argument to disagree with this either. We got 12 first downs by passing and only 6 by running. If you truly want to get a first down then pass the ball.
the last drive was made possible by 19, 14, 19, and 6 yd passes. Not runs.
Penalty's and sacks are what killed our drives. Not the bad passing game. Look at the play by play stuff and you will see that if we had a long sustained drive it was penalty free. The holding calls at the worst times killed our drives. Sometimes AFTER we had picked up the first down it was negated by a penalty.
I sat with Herv and he can tell you that I called the run and we discussed why you should not pass on that first play...but some fans were booing anyway. I also discussed Cameron's idiotic play calling. Brown was going off for about 7 ypc in the first half and they come out throwing the ball after halftime. I told him if I was a Dolphin fan I'd be an unhappy fan.
take a sack for a safety and the game is even more over.
And for those arguing the 'field position dictated a run', Normally I would completely agree with that thinking. But not in yesterdays game when we didn't have anything remotely resembling a running game all game long. And that much time on the clock and we only needed to get into FG range.
The fans were booing for the fact that apparently Kubiak was playing for OT, and they didn't like it. All that changed with the 19 yd pass. IMO
Kubiaks clock management is still suspect, IMO. He hasn't shown a real good grasp of how to manage a late game clock this season so far, including yesterday.
take a sack there and the games over...he did the right thing.
You have to take baby steps...If you go out there guns-a-blazin you may go down in the same manner...
We scored the game winning kick with 1 second left on the clock...
How much better clock management can we get ?
With all due respect, gr8, but I have to agree with Mike on the clock management issue. Kube did right by running to start that drive. We really don't want to give the ball back to the Dolphins, even with 10 secs left.serious as a heart attack. We averaged 5.2 yds a pass and 2.6 yds per run. So I am being totally serious when I said we were passing well, compared to running. Twice as well. Schaub ended up being the 3rd highest passing QB for the week, behind Romo, and his comback, and Favre and his loss.
You can't use the 'we were going for the first down' argument to disagree with this either. We got 12 first downs by passing and only 6 by running. If you truly want to get a first down then pass the ball.
the last drive was made possible by 19, 14, 19, and 6 yd passes. Not runs.
Penalty's and sacks are what killed our drives. Not the bad passing game. Look at the play by play stuff and you will see that if we had a long sustained drive it was penalty free. The holding calls at the worst times killed our drives. Sometimes AFTER we had picked up the first down it was negated by a penalty.
Oh yeah, and the stadium was half-empty at kickoff.
It's been five plus years. The players are talking about making the playoffs.
Time to demand more from the coaches and players.
And that's how you coach conservative/scared.
Kubiak says "what if we get sacked?" Another coach says "what if we do a quick slant and get 10 yards?"
That's not coaching scared...it's coaching smart. Last time I checked, football is a strategy game. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction so you don't make decisions that get you beat if you can control your situation and control the tempo of the moment. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty happy with 3-2 without most of our skill guys.And that's how you coach conservative/scared.
That's not coaching scared...it's coaching smart. Last time I checked, football is a strategy game. Every action has an equal and opposite reaction so you don't make decisions that get you beat if you can control your situation and control the tempo of the moment. I don't know about you guys, but I'm pretty happy with 3-2 without most of our skill guys
serious as a heart attack. We averaged 5.2 yds a pass and 2.6 yds per run. So I am being totally serious when I said we were passing well, compared to running.
As far as passing vs running for the game, you are right that the passing game was not as terrible as the running game.
However,
(1) If you go by numbers alone, 5.2 ypa would be "good" enough to tie with the Saints for dead last for the season.
For a WCO, that is a sure fire way to lose a game.
pretty much the way I saw it also and the reason I don't think Kubiak has a good grasp yet on clock management.Also, I watched the game last night again, and that last drive for the winning FG was terrible. They run on the first play and burn up almost 30 seconds, and then barely make it to the 40 yard line for a 57 yard FG. And they left one timeout on the table.
It's unforced errors that tick me off. The drive before the half was just as bad. They had 3:30 on the clock, and barely drive down for a 54 yarder.- BattleRedFlash
There is no excuse for that. I agree.
On another note, I watched the game again last night, and I'm sick of being nice to those Texan's fans that keep yelling when the Texans have the ball. Especially near the end zone.
The Texan's post the sign "Quiet, Offense Working", and these mo-rons keep yelling.
Schaub flaps his arms, and they keep yelling.
We need to tell them to shut up, and when they object, we need to power through it because we are right.
I thought fans in Texas knew football??
the numbers come from the gamebook on NFL.com, infantry.
OK, I'll believe you is you say so, CAK.
all that does, though, is really prove the we were passing the ball signifigantly better than running it. Even more than my original numbers indicated. And yet Kubiak makes the argument that he was going for a first down by running the ball from the 3 yd line? Thats the part I don't agree with on that call.
Those same fans who do not know when to cheer and not to cheer support your team though ticket revenue. And if a team is not making enough ticket revenue they tend to leave the location they call home ..... sounds familiar some how![]()
Those same fans who do not know when to cheer and not to cheer support your team though ticket revenue. And if a team is not making enough ticket revenue they tend to leave the location they call home ..... sounds familiar some how![]()
And yet Kubiak makes the argument that he was going for a first down by running the ball from the 3 yd line? Thats the part I don't agree with on that call. With the time left, the amount of time that play took off the clock, and the fact that we were moving the ball quite well by passing it, but instead we go for the 'playing not to lose' game instead of the 'taking it to them' game for a win.
uhmmm, nooooo, we actually got the first down on the very next play which was a 19 yd PASS. And then followed that with a 14 yd pass, and then followed that with another 19 yd pass. All of these STARTED from the 4yd line. Not downfield AFTER we got an initial first down from running.That is why after he got the first we started taking our shots down field...
I heard that also Rex and wondered it THAT was what prompted Kubiak to call a pass play on the next play.It's a bit of hindsight, but you could say the mistake was Cameron not calling timeout. If he had, that would have forced Kubiak's hand, and he probably would have just tried to run the clock on 2nd down, based on his comments.
Those same fans who do not know when to cheer and not to cheer support your team though ticket revenue. And if a team is not making enough ticket revenue they tend to leave the location they call home ..... sounds familiar some how
I would call them a necessary evil .... now if they could all be placed in a certain area ... maybe take a quick multiple choice test when you purchase your tickets?
I heard that also Rex and wondered it THAT was what prompted Kubiak to call a pass play on the next play.
OR
OK, now I am going to go out on a long skinny limb and hand the board a chainsaw to use here, BUUUTTTTTT
should we consider that PERHAPS the crowd 'boo-ing' Kubiak's RUN call, prompted him to go for a Pass play on the next play???
yeah I know, the Head Coach doesn't listen to the armchair QB's sittin in the stands and blah, blah.
But just consider it for a moment before you throw the BS card at this comment.
It IS a possibility. Not a good one, but a definite possibility............no?
I heard that also Rex and wondered it THAT was what prompted Kubiak to call a pass play on the next play.
OR
OK, now I am going to go out on a long skinny limb and hand the board a chainsaw to use here, BUUUTTTTTT
should we consider that PERHAPS the crowd 'boo-ing' Kubiak's RUN call, prompted him to go for a Pass play on the next play???
yeah I know, the Head Coach doesn't listen to the armchair QB's sittin in the stands and blah, blah.
But just consider it for a moment before you throw the BS card at this comment.
It IS a possibility. Not a good one, but a definite possibility............no?
thanks for not using the chainsaw on that one YellowLot![]()