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Terrible Officiating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

raytex said:
I wouldn't use the word spouting off when All I did is state that I didn't want people to blame our loss on the officials. maybe most people didn't blame the officials in this thread, but I just think out efforts should be concentrated on how bad our Rush D is. Just bringing up the officials is really counterproductive...
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Actually you are half right, bringing up what the team did is important but when you have 4 or 5 calls that are so badly done it is important to bring them up. This thread was about venting, for the most part and people asking questions to see if their thought process was in-line with others on certain officiating calls and there is nothing wrong with that.

Hell I posted a rules question, because of what I perceived as a blown call and I want to understand the rule so I know if my thoughts were in-line with the rules.
 
raytex said:
What did the refs have to do with this loss? Absolutely nothing...
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Did you read the post of mine that you quoted? Your statement would probably be better served with another quote. No where in any of my posts have I said the refs were the reason we lost.

Did I think refs sucked today yes. It's an opinion. Just like the fact that I think the Browns name and uniforms suck. That's an opinion. I assure you I have quite an interesting life and I have missed no time with my kids forming those opinions.

My kids are in bed in their Texans PJs so I can post away guilt free in the knowledge that I'm not neglecting them.
 
Twitch-Houston said:
Did you read the post of mine that you quoted? Your statement would probably be better served with another quote. No where in any of my posts have I said the refs were the reason we lost.

Did I think refs sucked today yes. It's an opinion. Just like the fact that I think the Browns name and uniforms suck. That's an opinion. I assure you I have quite an interesting life and I have missed no time with my kids forming those opinions.

My kids are in bed in their Texans PJs so I can post away guilt free in the knowledge that I'm not neglecting them.
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The quote about the kids was not intended towards you, I just think that I was not the first person on this board to form an opinion and posting about it with just reading the Title of the thread. "I'm sorry to those I offended for not reading a post and commenting on this thread."
 
raytex said:
The quote about the kids was not intended towards you, I just think that I was not the first person on this board to form an opinion and posting about it with just reading the Title of the thread. "I'm sorry to those I offended for not reading a post and commenting on this thread."
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No big deal. All of us are guilty of not reading all threads. Especially after a home game because by the time most of us get back to the board, there are a million posts to sift through...ha ha
I could see where the mistake would be made by skimming the title since blaming officials for a loss is common place. In this instance though, they deserve to be complained about not for the outcome of the game, but their poor calls. There are plenty of other threads were we all will be discussing the weaknesses of the team I assure you.

I mentioned in other threads that Jones-Drew was the bane of our existence.

We'll all calm down tomorrow after the frustration of this game has subsided some.
 
game after game all you people do is cry,cry,cry oh the refs screwed us!!!! JUST SHUT UP PLZ your redzone off sux you have like 1 td in your last 15 redzone trys matt schaub is david carr part 2 and mario williams was the stupidest first rd pick and your whole off is your kicker bring back the oilers atleast the could put the ball in the endzone
 
cowboys_rule said:
game after game all you people do is cry,cry,cry oh the refs screwed us!!!! JUST SHUT UP PLZ your redzone off sux you have like 1 td in your last 15 redzone trys matt schaub is david carr part 2 and mario williams was the stupidest first rd pick and your whole off is your kicker bring back the oilers atleast the could put the ball in the endzone
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ha ha ha a troll comes to our board after the Cowgirls finally play a real opponent and lose by 21 points.

I'm not going to bother going to your board and see what kind of excuses you guys are making.

Learn to read. The title of the thread is terrible officiating. Had you seen the game you'd agree with that assessment if you have any football knowledge. Read more than the title as well to see that we're not blaming the loss on the refs.
 
cowboys_rule said:
game after game all you people do is cry,cry,cry oh the refs screwed us!!!! JUST SHUT UP PLZ your redzone off sux you have like 1 td in your last 15 redzone trys matt schaub is david carr part 2 and mario williams was the stupidest first rd pick and your whole off is your kicker bring back the oilers atleast the could put the ball in the endzone
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Well polks....you need to start worring how Wade and the boyz are going to stop the wolf, Tom and the boyz from droping a sixty spot on you in the SB. Only thing the pats didn't take was the bathroom fixtures. I dunno me getting punked on national TV with the whole country watching the rape is going to sting a lot more than the Texans red zone troubles this season.
 
bckey said:
I had to turn the volume on the tv off because of Tasker. He sucks.
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Yeah well, at least they schooled up on Peteys last name this week. Someone hit them over the nose with a rolled up news paper. I don't think we'll be getting the CBS "A" team for the forseable future.
 
cowboys_rule said:
game after game all you people do is cry,cry,cry oh the refs screwed us!!!! JUST SHUT UP PLZ your redzone off sux you have like 1 td in your last 15 redzone trys matt schaub is david carr part 2 and mario williams was the stupidest first rd pick and your whole off is your kicker bring back the oilers atleast the could put the ball in the endzone
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It is nothing like the cryboys I met at 3rd base tonight still talking about past championships but when I asked about Irvin being arrested in a hotel with Hookers cocain residue and dildos he shut up.

I worked at the Omni in Farmers Branch for two years and saw M Irvin check in with plenty of White Female escorts (his wife is a gorgeous Black Lady) so Irvin is the scum of the earth.

Talk crap all you want but until you win as many playoff games as the Houston Texans or they have a worst record than the cryboys in the first 10 years, you need to KNOW your role and shut your pie hole.

If you don't like me bite me!!

:specnatz:
 
One thing worse than bad officiating is trolling cowboys fans posting here.
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cowboys_rule said:
game after game all you people do is cry,cry,cry oh the refs screwed us!!!! JUST SHUT UP PLZ your redzone off sux you have like 1 td in your last 15 redzone trys matt schaub is david carr part 2 and mario williams was the stupidest first rd pick and your whole off is your kicker bring back the oilers atleast the could put the ball in the endzone
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Shhhhhhhhhhsh!!!!

If the cowgurls are the best of the Nancy Football Conference, than I'm pretty sure my Super Bowl money is on the AFC (again) this year.. Nice game - at home, losers... At least y'all were competitive. :rolleyes:


Although the officiating was bad, I won't blame it for our play yesterday. In-opportune turnovers, penalties, poor tackling is what lost the game.
 
Personally, I've been peeved with the officiating the past 3 games, but yesterday may have been the worst.

I found myself frustrated on so many levels yesterday, that I was about to reach the boiling point. The piss poor officiating was but one sore spot with me.
 
Hoth-Boy said:
Explained:
http://houstontexans.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=3778

From the sounds of it the flag should have been picked up.
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"The offensive lineman, No. 83, started at the line of scrimmage and he started his block at the line of scrimmage and drove the defender downfield never breaking contact and you can do that legally and it’s not a foul."

#1 - 83 isn't a number associated to OL, he's a receiver (by definition)

#2 - If an OL blocked downfield on a Pass play, he'd get flagged EVERY time.

#3 - What he's stating does NOT agree w/ the published rules.

#4 - As a receiver, that would be considered a "pick" and is illegal by definition in the currrent rules.

Scary part is, this is only ONE of the voo-doo calls/non-calls from yesterday. Time to move on to worrying about the Titans now.
 
disaacks3 said:
"The offensive lineman, No. 83, started at the line of scrimmage and he started his block at the line of scrimmage and drove the defender downfield never breaking contact and you can do that legally and it’s not a foul."

#1 - 83 isn't a number associated to OL, he's a receiver (by definition)

#2 - If an OL blocked downfield on a Pass play, he'd get flagged EVERY time.

#3 - What he's stating does NOT agree w/ the published rules.

#4 - As a receiver, that would be considered a "pick" and is illegal by definition in the currrent rules.

Scary part is, this is only ONE of the voo-doo calls/non-calls from yesterday. Time to move on to worrying about the Titans now.
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He was lined up as a TE. You can engage with a defensive player at the line of scrimmage and drive him the entire length of the field as long as you do not break contact with him. It was the correct call.

The issue is not the call or the TE, the question is, how bad your lunch has been eaten if you can be driven 5 or 6 yards back on a pass play...
 
disaacks3 said:
"The offensive lineman, No. 83, started at the line of scrimmage and he started his block at the line of scrimmage and drove the defender downfield never breaking contact and you can do that legally and it’s not a foul."

#1 - 83 isn't a number associated to OL, he's a receiver (by definition)

#2 - If an OL blocked downfield on a Pass play, he'd get flagged EVERY time.

#3 - What he's stating does NOT agree w/ the published rules.

#4 - As a receiver, that would be considered a "pick" and is illegal by definition in the currrent rules.

Scary part is, this is only ONE of the voo-doo calls/non-calls from yesterday. Time to move on to worrying about the Titans now.
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You know what's funny...the fact that the Ref has to release a official statement on why he made the call.

I wonder when he is going to explain the headlock and delay of game and the other questionable calls since he's going to explain that one.

It may have been the right call, it seemed like it was...but its just odd that he has to officially release this to the press and explain why. I saw this on the Jaguar site last night too.
 
Leahmic223 said:
You know what's funny...the fact that the Ref has to release a official statement on why he made the call.

I wonder when he is going to explain the headlock and delay of game and the other questionable calls since he's going to explain that one.

It may have been the right call, it seemed like it was...but its just odd that he has to officially release this to the press and explain why. I saw this on the Jaguar site last night too.
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Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
 
Everyone is saying that the Jags mopped up the field with us and were more physical and what not. But what do you expect when their drives were continued on penalties or bad calls. Our defense was on the field for, it seemed like, all of the 3rd quarter. Those "body punches"(grrr) from the Jags and REFS took their toll on our defense. Not many d's in this league can handle having the wind taken out of their sails that much.

Then, to put the icing on the cake, that takes away our ground game. Our team will not survive without being able to control the clock and rushing the football. There is no way to control the clock when the refs take the ball out of your hand.

Our confidence deteriorated with every bad call yesterday. Imagine how that feels. You prepare all week and work your tail off, to just go out and have the refs beat you down.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
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Yeah like I said, it may have been the right call, it seems that way I wasn't even sure of the rule. I just didn't like how it took 10 minutes for them to decide.

Its just odd because the ref releases a explanation to the local press on why he made the call. Why do that? Was he asked about the call or did he just felt like he needed to clear it up, if it is the latter that is a bit fishy don't you think?

Refs don't just go to the local press and say "Hey this is why we ruled this that way..."

Also, if he's going to explain that he can explain how they missed that delay of game and how did our DB get holding for being in a headlock.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
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I missed it...in the car...but Andre this morning was still saying they got it wrong because the replays show the guy didn't keep blocking but actually was disengaged and hit the guy....or something like that. Who knows with him.

I'm not a fan of most NFL refs and it is becoming absurd how many penalties are being called by guys halfway across the field when another linemen is right on top of the play and doesn't call a thing....i don't buy the better angle thing.
 
HoustonFrog said:
I missed it...in the car...but Andre this morning was still saying they got it wrong because the replays show the guy didn't keep blocking but actually was disengaged and hit the guy....or something like that. Who knows with him.

I'm not a fan of most NFL refs and it is becoming absurd how many penalties are being called by guys halfway across the field when another linemen is right on top of the play and doesn't call a thing....i don't buy the better angle thing.
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Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Again, if the contact is broken, then it is a penalty, however the replay I watched....... well......, let's just say our guy was thoroughly defeated.
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Thanks for explaining the play. It shows you what you get from 610. I just was in and out during game time.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Hey.... I'm not going to forgive him for numerous other calls, but the one at the goal line with TE blocking downfield is correct.. Anyone who has ever played the O-line knows about that rule, albeit obscure...
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The question is, under the "recent" (as in last few years) changes, isn't there a no-touch rule in place beyond 5 yards?

If the LB can't touch the TE beyond 5, wouldn't the reverse be true?
 
disaacks3 said:
The question is, under the "recent" (as in last few years) changes, isn't there a no-touch rule in place beyond 5 yards?

If the LB can't touch the TE beyond 5, wouldn't the reverse be true?
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No... Not necessarily. First, rules are written to favor the offensive player and second, the contact was initiated at the line of scrimmage - not beyond 5 yards.
 
disturbedtexansfan513 said:
No doubt the refs didn't help one bit, but the jags took it to us today. We had many opportunities to seal the deal on the jags in the first half, but we just couldn't. A fumble by davis at the one yard line, an overthrown pass to KW in the endzone, fumbles by the jags in their own territory. We didn't execute and Jacksonville finally took advantage of it. In my opinion, Kubiak was completely outcoached today on all cylinders. Good ST play on the surprise onside kick, taking chances on 4th down and converting them, and taking advantage of the Texan's defensive weaknesses. I was as mad at the refs as the next guy, but it didn't affect the outcome.
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Agree 100%. He admits it too, that is another thing that is great about him as a coach and person.
 
I'm sure Kubiak has already had a conversation with the Official heads today, and it will be a major topic of discussion on his 610 radio show at 5:00. I'll be listening for sure.
 
I'm with TexansLucky13 on this one. On that delay of game no-call, even the CBS team (whom I think really wanted the Jags to win) wer shocked that it wasn't called.:wild:
 
My biggest gripe is letting the Jags get a play off about 5 seconds after the playclock reached zero. The other ones were judgement calls and those tend to even out over the course of the season. Hopefully, they are all out of their system by now.
 
bigfan77070 said:
I'm with TexansLucky13 on this one. On that delay of game no-call, even the CBS team (whom I think really wanted the Jags to win) wer shocked that it wasn't called.:wild:
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When the officials can't call a D-O-G penalty 3+ seconds after the clock expires, you know it's just not your day. The Officiating crew should get some sort of repremand for that one.:bat:
 
Everyone is gripping about a no call that cbs pointed out during the game but there were several times there were no calls . Times when we went out of bounds and the clock kept going . It just dont pay to jump into the faces of the refs during the game wait till the end then let them have it . Kubiak deserves all the credit here it is after all hard enough to beat a team but a team and the refs is impossible .
 
This is an awesome thread! I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call in a 37-17 football game. Having actually been at the game and having actually watched a broader field than on your little box, there were many times that either team could've been flagged for something. Its called football.

Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.

Some of us don't have the hate for the Texans that you all have for the Jags. I enjoy the annual meetings. The titans are the team I abhor (and yes I'm not yet over 1999). But all of this is good for the rivalry. It is what makes football.

Be that as it may, and this is just my opinion, as noted by some of your other ilk, the whinning is disgusting. It is like having to read all the 375 smack against the Colts. Yeah, that 375 is pretty impressive considering the colts won the Super Bowl. I wonder which I would take? Yeah, gimme the trophy.

Very funny thread though. I've been as frustrasted as some of you...I just tend to stay away from the keyboard until I'm less emotional.

Please beat the titans.
 
the village ***** said:
This is an awesome thread! I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call in a 37-17 football game. Having actually been at the game and having actually watched a broader field than on your little box, there were many times that either team could've been flagged for something. Its called football.

Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.

Some of us don't have the hate for the Texans that you all have for the Jags. I enjoy the annual meetings. The titans are the team I abhor (and yes I'm not yet over 1999). But all of this is good for the rivalry. It is what makes football.

Be that as it may, and this is just my opinion, as noted by some of your other ilk, the whinning is disgusting. It is like having to read all the 375 smack against the Colts. Yeah, that 375 is pretty impressive considering the colts won the Super Bowl. I wonder which I would take? Yeah, gimme the trophy.

Very funny thread though. I've been as frustrasted as some of you...I just tend to stay away from the keyboard until I'm less emotional.

Please beat the titans.
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Not sure if you read all the threads and not just the title, but for the most part everyone is simply complaining about how bad the crew was not that it caused us to lose. Even if we'd won the game we'd still feel the same way. The calls were horrendous that's a fact not an excuse.

The Jags kicked our butts and most of us accept that. We just pointed out extremely obvious bad calls that's all this thread is about.

From what I understand people who were at the game didn't have the replays that we had on the real bad calls. I have also heard from others at the game that they saw quite a bit of holding that was not called. Probably Salaam since he is a consistent culprit.

Course there are a few posts in this thread that are the exception, but most of us are not using it as an excuse.
 
the village ***** said:
This is an awesome thread! I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call in a 37-17 football game. Having actually been at the game and having actually watched a broader field than on your little box, there were many times that either team could've been flagged for something. Its called football.

Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.

Some of us don't have the hate for the Texans that you all have for the Jags. I enjoy the annual meetings. The titans are the team I abhor (and yes I'm not yet over 1999). But all of this is good for the rivalry. It is what makes football.

Be that as it may, and this is just my opinion, as noted by some of your other ilk, the whinning is disgusting. It is like having to read all the 375 smack against the Colts. Yeah, that 375 is pretty impressive considering the colts won the Super Bowl. I wonder which I would take? Yeah, gimme the trophy.

Very funny thread though. I've been as frustrasted as some of you...I just tend to stay away from the keyboard until I'm less emotional.

Please beat the titans.
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Perhaps you ought to read more carefully, rather than living up to your user name. Reading comprehension is your friend although not required for a major in Kinesiology. I don't recall anyone from this fan base stating that reason for the loss was solely on the officiating. In fact, explore some of the other threads for some very well thought out and lucid explanations of our team's poor performance.
 
Texan_Bill said:
Perhaps you ought to read more carefully, rather than living up to your user name. Reading comprehension is your friend although not required for a major in Kinesiology. I don't recall anyone from this fan base stating that reason for the loss was solely on the officiating. In fact, explore some of the other threads for some very well thought out and lucid explanations of our team's poor performance.
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Living up to your user name? I love it when I can get someone to use the "user name" smack. It reminds me of why I choose it. Thanks Bill! There is a sucker born every minute.

Thanks for the Kinesiology compliment. Although not on my lamb skin, I think I could've gotten a degree in that as well.

Why don't you go back and look at how the progression of the posts manifested and let me know what the spirit of some of those posts are. A good portion note that the calls made an impact. And did I comment that the WHOLE thread and ALL posts were in this spirit? No. How many logical fallacies can you break in one reply?

Did I say solely? I'm sorry, that must've been your reading comprehension. Why don't you quote me where I said "solely". Let me help:

--I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call

I look forward to your accurate "comprehension" of my post.
Thanks for the laugh.
 
the village ***** said:
Living up to your user name? I love it when I can get someone to use the "user name" smack. It reminds me of why I choose it. Thanks Bill! There is a sucker born every minute.

Thanks for the Kinesiology compliment. Although not on my lamb skin, I think I could've gotten a degree in that as well.

Why don't you go back and look at how the progression of the posts manifested and let me know what the spirit of some of those posts are. A good portion note that the calls made an impact. And did I comment that the WHOLE thread and ALL posts were in this spirit? No. How many logical fallacies can you break in one reply?

Did I say solely? I'm sorry, that must've been your reading comprehension. Why don't you quote me where I said "solely". Let me help:

--I don't think I've ever seen a delay of game no call be used as such an impact non-call

I look forward to your accurate "comprehension" of my post.
Thanks for the laugh.
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Got to love those that come out of the woodwork like a cockroach to try and post without reading. The use of double negatives is great, but it does not change the question most are asking about how the call is missed.

Now, having played and presently coaching football, crying about officiating has always been what losers do. That isn't mean as a mean swipe at your fan base, but rather a fact. When you're losing you look for excuses. When you're winning you don't mind a missed call or bad call as much. Have I griped in the past? Sure I have and the rebuke I received from coaches, players, etc was well justified. But to read that the Texans weren't dominated...it was the officiating is just pathetic. Of course we get the classic Del Rio is classless smack or the blackout smack...YAWN! Good work on that. As noted the DOG was missed and the others were judgment calls. I sure did see Reggie Williams get head slapped a lot with no call.
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You complain about Bill's reading and comprehention, but if you are a coach, I am sure we are all thankful you do not coach in Texas. Not one person on here has said the Texans did not get beat and beat badly and soundly. Head slapped a lot? What is your definition of a lot that you teach these kids? Once and it was on accident Williams knocked the defenders arm into the helmet.

Some of us don't have the hate for the Texans that you all have for the Jags. I enjoy the annual meetings. The titans are the team I abhor (and yes I'm not yet over 1999). But all of this is good for the rivalry. It is what makes football.
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Well it is nice for you to stop by after this game, but it is funny I do not recall you being here at all last year? I wonder why that is, probably like most trolls you only show up after a win. You were not here before the game either, would that mean you had no confidence in your (so called) teams chances until after the game?

Thanks for stopping by glad we could amuse you, but then again most trolls are amused when they do not have much of a knowledge of football just like the players you coach.
 
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