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tulexan said:Agreed, lets only draft and sign players from Houston. After all, if we don't, we would be lying to people about our name. I mean who are the Colts and the Jaguars fooling? They have a bunch of humans on their team, not Colts and Jaguars.
Zephyr said:Blah, Blah, Blah...
Did someone actually say something
Jerek, I like your avatar.
ALIVE287 said:Since the team has alledgley said according to ESPN.com that it will take Bush anyway instead of Houston born Vince Young, I say we all begin a petition, boycott, or some kind of Fire Casserly March (much like the Millen Man March of Detroit) on Reliant Park to let our voices heard.....This is not a UT thing, its a Houston thing. We're the HOUSTON TEXANS for crying out loud people! The franchise was on a 4 year plan. It hasn't worked from the start. From the Boselli decision to Capers to the Buchanan decision to Babin to Carr. Nobody has lived up to their part of the bargain. I say we keep Dunta, Dre, Norris, Mathis, DD, and Morency and start completely new. Casserly must go and someone needs to get McNair a clue cause this team has been a laughing stock. Vince is the next coming of Hakeem, Nolan, the Rocket, Earl, and other Houston greats. It's a sin pure and simple if we don't take one of our own after the greatest college performance ever and one of the most dominating college seasons ever (and yes, he deserved the Heisman, all the Reggie supporters WERE WRONG). Reggie can't run in between the tackles and he'll be exposed in the NFL. Let's take this team back before McNair sets us back another 4 years. Who's with? Vince Young or Bust. Cause if we don't take him then we really are the Houston Texans only in name.
itsme said:SWTBOUND07
ouch, you sure got me on the cap typing style. Im a 49er so you can understand my pissed-offness. It all comes down to the Bush lottery. We were in the running for Bush cause we really sucked. Im not saying you guys didnt. What I am saying is we didnt purposely loose a game. The talk around here is thats the way it was and Ive seen some of the controversial plays. What do you guys think about the accusations? The Troll
Hookem Horns said:Some of you people are clueless. The fact that VY is from Houston is only good for PR and to sell tickets. The fact that he dominates at every level he plays and refuses to lose is WHY HE SHOULD BE A TEXAN. VY could end up being the Earl Campbell of the Texans. Earl put the Oilers on the map and made many of us Oilers fans (self included). If the Texans pass him up and he goes to the Titans it is going to be disasterous for this organization, the fan base (especially us x-Oiler fans), and the city. I get sick just thinking about it. I have been screwed by Houston football too many times to stomach this if it happens. BTW, the fact that they held on to Casserly is already a disaster and has me peeved.
No I won't go root for the Titans (as one or two have suggested they would do), I hated them the minute they walked out on us. However, my faith in this organization or enthusiasm is going to be on real shakey ground if this scenario plays out. The fact that I hate the Titans so much makes this worse. Sometimes I wonder if I just stopped caring about Houston football I wouldn't give a rats *** about the Titans.
This team has only been around 4 years and none of us grew up rooting for them or dieing with them like we did the Oilers. Many of us jumped on the Texans because we were Oilers fans or grew up in Houston, however the Texans are still earning their fan base. I can't honestly say I would stop caring about the Texans however they still don't have many fans blind loyalty like the Oilers did because they are so new.
tulexan said:I think McNair's goals are to be a playoff team and contend for the Super Bowl, not to be the most popular team in Texas.
Grid said:being a playoff team and contending for the superbowl will do alot towards making us the most popular team in Texas.
houstonhurricane said:Hookem,
Calling me clueless because I think picking up VY as the number one pick seems a little harsh - especially since most NFL scouts would agree with my position based on the Texans' current needs. I know this must be hard for you to grasp, but the Texans cannot "afford" to draft him number one. They cannot just drop Carr, they cannot afford the cap hit of trading him, they cannot and should not try to keep two extremely highly paid qb's on their roster - so what is your amazing plan?
Once again, congrats to UT, but please don't let your college allegiance blind you when it comes to the cold hard realities of the pro game.
Hookem Horns said:Not sure if I were calling you out personally Hurricane, I honestly didn't look at the names of certain ones who posted that "we want Young ONLY because he is from Houston or plays for UT". It's because he has dominated at every level, is a winner, and a leader.
LoneStarState said:I wonder if all of these "Texans" fans will drop the team and root for the Titans if Houston doesn't draft VY and Tennessee does?
LoneStarState said:I asked one of my UT friends if they would be as rabid about the Texans drafting VY if he didn't play for UT... she said NO... :brickwall
Hookem Horns said:I am worried about those types here in Austin that just asked me yesterday about how to get Texans season tickets if VY went to Houston. Those types will turn into Titans fans.
Sco-tai said:wow...dumb is catching. Seriously....you may wanna zip to www.nfl.com for a second. There are 32 teams in the NFL...not 2. The object is to win the SUPERBOWL not "public support in every city in Texas".
It's posts like yours that makes me think "wow....smart like dumptruck".
LoneStarState said:My point exactly... sorry - I've been with the Texans since NFL2002... these driveby fans are really getting on my nerves...
tulexan said:So McNair should cave in to the drive by fans to make them happy?
tulexan said:Putting a winning team on the field brings more fans than a single player from UT could ever bring to the stadium.
tulexan said:So McNair should cave in to the drive by fans to make them happy? Putting a winning team on the field brings more fans than a single player from UT could ever bring to the stadium.
Hookem Horns said:No, but if that player that the fans want also happens to be the best player in the draft and give this team some much needed leadership than YES he should draft him. My gut feeling is Young would bring winning to this team more than Bush/Carr will. Carr lost me last season with his defeatest attitude and the "this is not a must win but must play well" quotes. A true leader would never say that. So regardless of who they draft, this team is still going to need a franchise QB.
It's all about winning, you really think I would want VY here if I didn't think he could win at the NFL level or be the best option for the Texans?? You didn't hear me screaming for Simms when he came out.
Hookem Horns said:No, but if that player that the fans want also happens to be the best player in the draft and give this team some much needed leadership than YES he should draft him.
Hookem Horns said:My gut feeling is Young would bring winning to this team more than Bush/Carr will.
coreyvice said:It's not about where the player came from. It's about winning big games. If he's a hometown hero...even better. Before the Rose Bowl, nobody thought he was coming out. It just happens to be the opinion of the "drive-by fans" that we'd be stupid to pass on him.
jerek said:I am going to start a petition for fans like you being banned from this message board.
Even if I did think Vince was the one-man resurrection (I don't), I would never waste my time on something so patently stupid as a boycott of the team.
coreyvice said:Yeah... last I checked there were 31 NFL teams better than ours. They also get more respect. Ask the front office if they wouldn't mind "public support in every city in Texas". It's a business. They would make more money if they had that support and they still might even win a Super Bowl (not "SUPERBOWL.")
Next time you want to call somebody dumb, hit spellcheck first. There's a button at the top right corner that might help you.
Let me pinch you so you can wake up. nice dreamsRTP2110 said:I have a strange feeling that if the Texans were to pass on Young, for whatever reason and go 13-3 next year, Reliant Stadium would be a packed house.
Simple they are not Vince Youngtulexan said:You make a good point. If all of these people think that Carr is bad and needs to be replaced, then why aren't we also talking about Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, or Omar Jacobs?
What`s your point our Carr is a lemon.It would not matter if VY was from Mars. IMO VY is/will better than Carrtulexan said:Look at the Patriots. They fill the stadium every single game. Is Tom Brady a local Boston guy? No, he is actually pretty much from as far from Boston as you can get (San Mateo, CA). But they have a winning team every year and are always in the playoffs. How about the Eagles? Is McNabb from the Philly area? No, he is from Chicago. Is their stadium empty? No. Why not? Because they have a winning team. The Colts? Is Peyton Manning from Indiana? Nope, New Orleans. But they have a winning team so people watch the games.
Grid said:Shouldnt this be on the UT board :P
abbest said:Simple they are not Vince Young
Sco-tai said:Stick to the subject genius. The object of the draft is to improve the team to achieve an improved win-loss record, thus boosting ticket sales, merchandise sales, profits for Mr. McNair and fellow investors...AND LEAGUE WIDE FAN SUPPORT. Not HOUSTON vs. Dallas.
And you're REALLY gonna pull the spell check card when the recognized spelling of spell check has a space between spell and check. Shoo fly.
I bet you would have drafted Ryan Leaf. hahahah![]()