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Team Boycott - Who's With?

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All this talk is driving me nuts... While I believe that we should take Young, we probably won't.

I'm starting to say to hell with all the Bush and Young talk, lets trade down and get Ferguson, then trade back up just high enough to get LenDale White.
 
tulexan said:
Agreed, lets only draft and sign players from Houston. After all, if we don't, we would be lying to people about our name. I mean who are the Colts and the Jaguars fooling? They have a bunch of humans on their team, not Colts and Jaguars.


Has to be by far the post of the year!!! That was awesome Tulexan!!:redtowel:
 
Zephyr said:
Blah, Blah, Blah...

Did someone actually say something ;)

Jerek, I like your avatar.

I agree...with the avatar. aj has a good one too.
This thread is made for Exedrin. :hairpull:
 
This topic is absolutely pathetic. Seriously, congrats to UT and their fans for a fantastic win this year. It was an unbelievable season and VY has been great. However, the Texans aren't drafting him...so move on. This organization is a business and is going to make decisions that they feel will best help move it in the right direction. Drafting a rookie quarterback is not going to get them where they feel they need to head.

If you are serious about drafting a quarterback, then I would imagine you would be debating the merits of VY and Leinhart. Instead, you want to boycott because a UT player is not going to be picked up. Listen, as a Hurricane, I am thrilled that AJ is on the team, but also am very disappointed in PBuch's play. However, I would be extremely upset at management if the Texans drafted a Hurricane who did not fit their needs.
 
You make a good point. If all of these people think that Carr is bad and needs to be replaced, then why aren't we also talking about Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, or Omar Jacobs?
 
Let's talk about them, then. People can boycott this team for whatever reason they want. Why NOT sound off on why if someone doesn't agree with the direction the team is taking?
 
Some of you people are clueless. The fact that VY is from Houston is only good for PR and to sell tickets. The fact that he dominates at every level he plays and refuses to lose is WHY HE SHOULD BE A TEXAN. VY could end up being the Earl Campbell of the Texans. Earl put the Oilers on the map and made many of us Oilers fans (self included). If the Texans pass him up and he goes to the Titans it is going to be disasterous for this organization, the fan base (especially us x-Oiler fans), and the city. I get sick just thinking about it. I have been screwed by Houston football too many times to stomach this if it happens. BTW, the fact that they held on to Casserly is already a disaster and has me peeved.

No I won't go root for the Titans (as one or two have suggested they would do), I hated them the minute they walked out on us. However, my faith in this organization or enthusiasm is going to be on real shakey ground if this scenario plays out. The fact that I hate the Titans so much makes this worse. Sometimes I wonder if I just stopped caring about Houston football I wouldn't give a rats *** about the Titans.

This team has only been around 4 years and none of us grew up rooting for them or dieing with them like we did the Oilers. Many of us jumped on the Texans because we were Oilers fans or grew up in Houston, however the Texans are still earning their fan base. I can't honestly say I would stop caring about the Texans however they still don't have many fans blind loyalty like the Oilers did because they are so new.
 
ALIVE287 said:
Since the team has alledgley said according to ESPN.com that it will take Bush anyway instead of Houston born Vince Young, I say we all begin a petition, boycott, or some kind of Fire Casserly March (much like the Millen Man March of Detroit) on Reliant Park to let our voices heard.....This is not a UT thing, its a Houston thing. We're the HOUSTON TEXANS for crying out loud people! The franchise was on a 4 year plan. It hasn't worked from the start. From the Boselli decision to Capers to the Buchanan decision to Babin to Carr. Nobody has lived up to their part of the bargain. I say we keep Dunta, Dre, Norris, Mathis, DD, and Morency and start completely new. Casserly must go and someone needs to get McNair a clue cause this team has been a laughing stock. Vince is the next coming of Hakeem, Nolan, the Rocket, Earl, and other Houston greats. It's a sin pure and simple if we don't take one of our own after the greatest college performance ever and one of the most dominating college seasons ever (and yes, he deserved the Heisman, all the Reggie supporters WERE WRONG). Reggie can't run in between the tackles and he'll be exposed in the NFL. Let's take this team back before McNair sets us back another 4 years. Who's with? Vince Young or Bust. Cause if we don't take him then we really are the Houston Texans only in name.

I'm starting to see why my Aggie friends think UT fans are whining crybabies. If they don't select your national championship winning QB you'll take your dollars and go home?

Go.
Please, by all means. The mans owned the team for four years and you already want the fans to "take it back"?

This is the most retarded post I've ever seen on this board and it replaces one that's only been the king of retarded posts for less than a week. Any more of this and I'm going to have to start hating UT and it's fans. You people are insufferable.
 
I would think because VY brings exitement (the same reason I hear to draft Bush) and he has a better chance of surviving the onslaught that will be coming with no O-line.

I would like to see Carr stay and get a line, but Bush has shown me nothing.
 
itsme said:
SWTBOUND07

ouch, you sure got me on the cap typing style. Im a 49er so you can understand my pissed-offness. It all comes down to the Bush lottery. We were in the running for Bush cause we really sucked. Im not saying you guys didnt. What I am saying is we didnt purposely loose a game. The talk around here is thats the way it was and Ive seen some of the controversial plays. What do you guys think about the accusations? The Troll


it kills me to be saying this, believe me it really does, but i'll go ahead and respond to the trolling.

1) If you lose to us, san francisco wouldnt have been the ones that got bush.
2) You obviously didnt watch the texans play all 16 games like i did. We didnt purposely lose any games either. We were legitimately THAT BAD. Controversial plays is just the way our offense rolls. If we wanted to throw games, we wouldnt have put up a huge lead on the rams. We wouldnt have taken you guys to overtime. We wanted to win. We won against the browns when we could have easily shanked it. Teams dont throw games. The nfl is an organization of integrity. Your mad cause you wont get reggie. Im mad because we probably will. reasonable men can differ
 
Hookem,

Calling me clueless because I think picking up VY as the number one pick seems a little harsh - especially since most NFL scouts would agree with my position based on the Texans' current needs. I know this must be hard for you to grasp, but the Texans cannot "afford" to draft him number one. They cannot just drop Carr, they cannot afford the cap hit of trading him, they cannot and should not try to keep two extremely highly paid qb's on their roster - so what is your amazing plan?

Once again, congrats to UT, but please don't let your college allegiance blind you when it comes to the cold hard realities of the pro game.
 
Hookem Horns said:
Some of you people are clueless. The fact that VY is from Houston is only good for PR and to sell tickets. The fact that he dominates at every level he plays and refuses to lose is WHY HE SHOULD BE A TEXAN. VY could end up being the Earl Campbell of the Texans. Earl put the Oilers on the map and made many of us Oilers fans (self included). If the Texans pass him up and he goes to the Titans it is going to be disasterous for this organization, the fan base (especially us x-Oiler fans), and the city. I get sick just thinking about it. I have been screwed by Houston football too many times to stomach this if it happens. BTW, the fact that they held on to Casserly is already a disaster and has me peeved.

No I won't go root for the Titans (as one or two have suggested they would do), I hated them the minute they walked out on us. However, my faith in this organization or enthusiasm is going to be on real shakey ground if this scenario plays out. The fact that I hate the Titans so much makes this worse. Sometimes I wonder if I just stopped caring about Houston football I wouldn't give a rats *** about the Titans.

This team has only been around 4 years and none of us grew up rooting for them or dieing with them like we did the Oilers. Many of us jumped on the Texans because we were Oilers fans or grew up in Houston, however the Texans are still earning their fan base. I can't honestly say I would stop caring about the Texans however they still don't have many fans blind loyalty like the Oilers did because they are so new.


I agree wholeheartedly. It's about the big picture. The Texans have a chance now to steal some of the Cowboys thunder as the most popular team in Texas by drafting VY and they'll blow it because Bob and Charley think drafting him would be an admission of past failure.
 
I think McNair's goals are to be a playoff team and contend for the Super Bowl, not to be the most popular team in Texas.
 
tulexan said:
I think McNair's goals are to be a playoff team and contend for the Super Bowl, not to be the most popular team in Texas.

being a playoff team and contending for the superbowl will do alot towards making us the most popular team in Texas.
 
I wonder if all of these "Texans" fans will drop the team and root for the Titans if Houston doesn't draft VY and Tennessee does?
 
Grid said:
being a playoff team and contending for the superbowl will do alot towards making us the most popular team in Texas.

That is ALL there is and I don't care if the whole team is blind, has only one leg and comes from Croatia. It doesn't matter where they come from, just that they are a team and playing competent NFL level football.
 
houstonhurricane said:
Hookem,

Calling me clueless because I think picking up VY as the number one pick seems a little harsh - especially since most NFL scouts would agree with my position based on the Texans' current needs. I know this must be hard for you to grasp, but the Texans cannot "afford" to draft him number one. They cannot just drop Carr, they cannot afford the cap hit of trading him, they cannot and should not try to keep two extremely highly paid qb's on their roster - so what is your amazing plan?

Once again, congrats to UT, but please don't let your college allegiance blind you when it comes to the cold hard realities of the pro game.

Not sure if I were calling you out personally Hurricane, I honestly didn't look at the names of certain ones who posted that "we want Young ONLY because he is from Houston or plays for UT". It's because he has dominated at every level, is a winner, and a leader. That's the reason I personally want him. The fact that he is a hometown product and went to UT is only icing on the cake for this team to pick up more fans and win over the city and much of the state.

As a matter of fact I had 3 people here in Austin (one was a Cowboys fan and the other 2 didn't care about the Texans in the past) ask me yesterday what they needed to do to get Texans season tickets. All 3 said they wanted to look into it if VY was drafted by the Texans. This is opportunity is huge for the Texans.
 
Hookem Horns said:
Not sure if I were calling you out personally Hurricane, I honestly didn't look at the names of certain ones who posted that "we want Young ONLY because he is from Houston or plays for UT". It's because he has dominated at every level, is a winner, and a leader.


The dominated at every level is kind of a dumb argument because all top recruits dominate in High School. If they didn't dominate, then they wouldn't have been top recruits to the best schools. I'm sure that Matt Leinart was an unbelievable high school player too. He has a better winning record than Vince Young and has two national championships in addition to a Heisman trophy.

Where are the "We have to draft Matt" posts? Could it be that because he is not from Houston or from University of Texas that he isn't as good? He is more ready than Vince Young to play in the NFL because of his experience in a pro style offense and his accuracy.
 
LoneStarState said:
I wonder if all of these "Texans" fans will drop the team and root for the Titans if Houston doesn't draft VY and Tennessee does?

You know there be a LOT of those. Also, I am worried about those types here in Austin that just asked me yesterday about how to get Texans season tickets if VY went to Houston. Those types will turn into Titans fans.

IF I ever driven to drop the Texans there would be no way in Hades I would root for that **** organization. They are the reason I am half nuts as it is. I would probably go be a Giants fan (used to live in NY and root for NY in the only other sport I care for which is hockey). Their fans hate the Cowboys about as much as I do. Besides the Texans I pretty much hate the AFC due to growing up an Oilers fan.

That being said, I have never "dropped" a team before. Bud tempted me when he fired Bum, however I grew up rooting for certain teams and stuck with them through thick and thin. The Oilers "dropped" us and I will never forgive them for that. Since I didn't grow up rooting for the Texans I cannot honestly say how I would feel if they did something to royally peeve me off like Bud did when he fired Bum.
 
I asked one of my UT friends if they would be as rabid about the Texans drafting VY if he didn't play for UT... she said NO... :brickwall
 
LoneStarState said:
I asked one of my UT friends if they would be as rabid about the Texans drafting VY if he didn't play for UT... she said NO... :brickwall

Heck I could have told ya that :).. we werent even interested in a QB before the Rose Bowl. Otherwise we would have been having a lot of debates over whether or not we should draft Lienart.
 
Hookem Horns said:
I am worried about those types here in Austin that just asked me yesterday about how to get Texans season tickets if VY went to Houston. Those types will turn into Titans fans.

My point exactly... sorry - I've been with the Texans since NFL2002... these driveby fans are really getting on my nerves...
 
Sco-tai said:
wow...dumb is catching. Seriously....you may wanna zip to www.nfl.com for a second. There are 32 teams in the NFL...not 2. The object is to win the SUPERBOWL not "public support in every city in Texas".

It's posts like yours that makes me think "wow....smart like dumptruck".

Yeah... last I checked there were 31 NFL teams better than ours. They also get more respect. Ask the front office if they wouldn't mind "public support in every city in Texas". It's a business. They would make more money if they had that support and they still might even win a Super Bowl (not "SUPERBOWL.")

Next time you want to call somebody dumb, hit spellcheck first. There's a button at the top right corner that might help you.
 
LoneStarState said:
My point exactly... sorry - I've been with the Texans since NFL2002... these driveby fans are really getting on my nerves...

I have too, actually before NFL2002. I was posting on some other board (think it was an L.A. news board) debating on why Houston should have a team over L.A. However, we are in the minority, the ones that just went into limbo when the Oilers left and didn't follow them to Tennessee. Whether we like it or not, the Texans are now building their fan base since they are new on the block. If they draft someone that helps bring in more fans in this state and it also makes the most football sense than it is a no brainer. You don't pass on a guy like Young (and yes I would take him over Ryan Leaf ...errr I mean Matt Leinart). I would keep Carr over Leinart.
 
So McNair should cave in to the drive by fans to make them happy? Putting a winning team on the field brings more fans than a single player from UT could ever bring to the stadium.
 
tulexan said:
So McNair should cave in to the drive by fans to make them happy? Putting a winning team on the field brings more fans than a single player from UT could ever bring to the stadium.

No, but if that player that the fans want also happens to be the best player in the draft and give this team some much needed leadership than YES he should draft him. My gut feeling is Young would bring winning to this team more than Bush/Carr will. Carr lost me last season with his defeatest attitude and the "this is not a must win but must play well" quotes. A true leader would never say that. So regardless of who they draft, this team is still going to need a franchise QB.

It's all about winning, you really think I would want VY here if I didn't think he could win at the NFL level or be the best option for the Texans?? You didn't hear me screaming for Simms when he came out.
 
Look at the Patriots. They fill the stadium every single game. Is Tom Brady a local Boston guy? No, he is actually pretty much from as far from Boston as you can get (San Mateo, CA). But they have a winning team every year and are always in the playoffs. How about the Eagles? Is McNabb from the Philly area? No, he is from Chicago. Is their stadium empty? No. Why not? Because they have a winning team. The Colts? Is Peyton Manning from Indiana? Nope, New Orleans. But they have a winning team so people watch the games.
 
Hookem Horns said:
No, but if that player that the fans want also happens to be the best player in the draft and give this team some much needed leadership than YES he should draft him. My gut feeling is Young would bring winning to this team more than Bush/Carr will. Carr lost me last season with his defeatest attitude and the "this is not a must win but must play well" quotes. A true leader would never say that. So regardless of who they draft, this team is still going to need a franchise QB.

It's all about winning, you really think I would want VY here if I didn't think he could win at the NFL level or be the best option for the Texans?? You didn't hear me screaming for Simms when he came out.


Let's not get silly. Vince Young was the best player in the Rose Bowl last week, he's not the best player in the 2006 draft. He may not even be in the top 10.

He's just the one with the most hype right now and as far as this board goes he's the one who happens to be wearing the burnt orange.
 
Hookem Horns said:
No, but if that player that the fans want also happens to be the best player in the draft and give this team some much needed leadership than YES he should draft him.

This is possible - but very debatable. There's a reason teams aren't run by public opinion. It changed here in a matter of one bowl game.

Hookem Horns said:
My gut feeling is Young would bring winning to this team more than Bush/Carr will.

Possibly - but will UT fans support the Texans if they are 2-14 in VY's first, second, third year? Or will they be there if it takes 3+ years for him to develop? Horn fans will have to support the team then because everyone else may have jumped ship by then.

:twocents:
 
Especially if Reggie Bush is whooping our butts Barry Sander's style twice a season in Tennessee :P
 
It's not about where the player came from. It's about winning big games. If he's a hometown hero...even better. Before the Rose Bowl, nobody thought he was coming out. It just happens to be the opinion of the "drive-by fans" that we'd be stupid to pass on him now that he probably will come out.

Don't agree? Seems to be a circular argument to me. The truth of the matter is that this is a great problem to have and people want to weigh in.
 
coreyvice said:
It's not about where the player came from. It's about winning big games. If he's a hometown hero...even better. Before the Rose Bowl, nobody thought he was coming out. It just happens to be the opinion of the "drive-by fans" that we'd be stupid to pass on him.

THANK YOU!!! I am hoping that common sense will prevail on this board in the next couple of days. But, for some reason, I think I will be very disappointed...
 
jerek said:
I am going to start a petition for fans like you being banned from this message board.

Even if I did think Vince was the one-man resurrection (I don't), I would never waste my time on something so patently stupid as a boycott of the team.

May I sign, pleeeeaaaase?
 
agreed......if you dont remember how depressing, tear inducing it was to lose OUR FRANCHISE, and you would toss away the gift that is the texans so easily.......be banned. Sign me up kinfolk, lets keep our sanity
 
coreyvice said:
Yeah... last I checked there were 31 NFL teams better than ours. They also get more respect. Ask the front office if they wouldn't mind "public support in every city in Texas". It's a business. They would make more money if they had that support and they still might even win a Super Bowl (not "SUPERBOWL.")

Next time you want to call somebody dumb, hit spellcheck first. There's a button at the top right corner that might help you.

Stick to the subject genius. The object of the draft is to improve the team to achieve an improved win-loss record, thus boosting ticket sales, merchandise sales, profits for Mr. McNair and fellow investors...AND LEAGUE WIDE FAN SUPPORT. Not HOUSTON vs. Dallas.

And you're REALLY gonna pull the spell check card when the recognized spelling of spell check has a space between spell and check. Shoo fly.

I bet you would have drafted Ryan Leaf. hahahah:redtowel:
 
RTP2110 said:
I have a strange feeling that if the Texans were to pass on Young, for whatever reason and go 13-3 next year, Reliant Stadium would be a packed house.
Let me pinch you so you can wake up. nice dreams
 
tulexan said:
You make a good point. If all of these people think that Carr is bad and needs to be replaced, then why aren't we also talking about Matt Leinart, Jay Cutler, or Omar Jacobs?
Simple they are not Vince Young
 
tulexan said:
Look at the Patriots. They fill the stadium every single game. Is Tom Brady a local Boston guy? No, he is actually pretty much from as far from Boston as you can get (San Mateo, CA). But they have a winning team every year and are always in the playoffs. How about the Eagles? Is McNabb from the Philly area? No, he is from Chicago. Is their stadium empty? No. Why not? Because they have a winning team. The Colts? Is Peyton Manning from Indiana? Nope, New Orleans. But they have a winning team so people watch the games.
What`s your point our Carr is a lemon.It would not matter if VY was from Mars. IMO VY is/will better than Carr
 
:rofl: Some of the things people come up with to post on this message board. Hilarious!!!!!

Bobby 119C:brickwall
 
Sco-tai said:
Stick to the subject genius. The object of the draft is to improve the team to achieve an improved win-loss record, thus boosting ticket sales, merchandise sales, profits for Mr. McNair and fellow investors...AND LEAGUE WIDE FAN SUPPORT. Not HOUSTON vs. Dallas.

And you're REALLY gonna pull the spell check card when the recognized spelling of spell check has a space between spell and check. Shoo fly.

I bet you would have drafted Ryan Leaf. hahahah:redtowel:

Really, I'm not too sure where you have been in your life, but I've been in a lot of places that resent the State of Texas and would NEVER root for a team called the Texans. So it would make sense that we would first want fans that are actually TEXANS. IMO, that should be their first priority.

Just because you don't agree with somebody's opinion doesn't mean that they are dumb person nor does it give you a right to call them dumb. As a matter of fact, that kind of BS is prohibited on these boards.

What's really dumb....an opinion you don't agree with or you calling somebody that because you can't get a point across w/o name calling?

BTW, spellcheck is in dictionary.com. Here's the link:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=spellcheck
Again, if you want to question somebody else's intelligence, don't put your own up for scrutiny.
 
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