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Im starting to wonder if it’s our coach that has trouble reading defenses.
They didn’t get the look they wanted either but thought it was gonna work regardless, and turns out it did.NFL network said someone named Takiesha(?) reported that Nuk, Watson and maybe others drew up that trick play on a sheet of paper and gave it to OB.
I saw a post-game clip of O'Brien saying the players brought that play to him. If I find that clip I'll post it.NFL network said someone named Takiesha(?) reported that Nuk, Watson and maybe others drew up that trick play on a sheet of paper and gave it to OB.
My biggest takeaway is that OB finally got the monkey off his back. It seemed to me that before the game Bellicheck and OB exchanged brains. Was it just me or did Bellicheck do some very OB things last night? Right before halftime not going for it there. What do you gain by punting?
Can we all take one thing away? That defense is overrated as all hell. This is no historic defense. They are an above average defense with a great coordinator, and playing weak ass competition.
Ahhhhh nothing like a week off hunting and fishing to recharge the batteries yeah!? Top it off with an asswhipping of the evil empire?? How good was that? I savored the victory more after catching up on all the "awesome" posts I missed last week. You guys were busy!! Seems like the Deshaun Hate Squad will have to suck it up another week. Maybe he will figure out how to read blitzes at some point? LOL.
It was good to see a proactive attack, even if littered with the usual inside runs and screens. In order for Deshaun Watson to "read the blitz and find the open guy" there needs to be .. open guys. If you dont attack a defense in multiple levels via the passing game then its just 4 dudes running down the field and then trying to get open. Last night I saw a more concerted effort in using natural rubs and bunch formations - mind you, OBriens bunch or stack leaves alot to be desired, but at least its there. Lets work on the shallow exit route from that trip set as we go. Tight End inclusion was nice to see again after a few week absence, funny what that does to offensive rhythm huh? Duke Johnson is this teams best running back, it was nice to see him treated as such. Hyde is just a battering ram, and should be the short down/distance guy IMO. Duke can be a 3 down back, and opens up so many more plays for this offense. Bringing him in every other series or solely on passing downs is poor use of the talent.
All of Deshauns scoring plays last night came from a moving pocket. Hmmm. Maybe we should use that more. Like. Every week. Be that team that gets known for the "moving pocket" plays or whatever you want. It puts Deshaun at the apex of his skill set. Having him stand in the pocket and "deliver the ball" with the way this OL has been playing is just dumb.
On that note .. WHAT THE !@#$ HAPPENED TO THE OFFENSIVE LINE!?!? Holy crap they were playing so good a few weeks ago, and now its like last year all over again, and thats WITH TUNSIL, SHARPING AND MARTIN in there!!! Dont get me started on Tunsil. Im convinced that dude is out there playing high on marijuana thats the only logical explanation when a guy CONTINUALLY is jumping offsides. How many more penalties last night? His run blocking is pathetic for a supposed "all pro" type guy, and the penalty problem? Does not equal a 100M contract from me, and even more painful giving away 2 1st round picks for that is heartbreaking. But yeah "he's a really good pass blocker". Tough scene, hope they can play better.
ROMEO CRENNEL. My man. TT's red headed step child. Composed another masterpiece last night. Triple B in effect all night. Took away Edelman early and Tommy Boy didnt know what to do! RAC drew up some EXOTIC fronts, and brought some DBS on new blitz packages I had not seen yet. Just an awesome display of coordination, knew what they wanted to do, and took it away. LBs came in dressed as a SWAT team and they took down the bad guys, they were thumping!! LOL @ "Martin is only .5 sacks away from JD Clowney blah blah" its funny (shows a shortsighted view on team value but I LIKE IT LOL) it was good for him to get out there and do the only thing he does well and get after the QB. Give him the Elephant and tell him to go Bobby Boucher at the snap of the ball. It keeps him out of the run game where he's a liability on the edge. Good game from him. DJ Reader is a pro bowl NT and had another great game last night 2 gapping the living hell out of the Pats.
Special teams did their jobs and it was a solid ALL 3 PHASES win.
So in the spirit of "team building" that has been going on around here for the last week regardless on who you "hate" I give you guys this!:
They’ve beat up on a lot of bad teams. Their schedule has been a joke, the only two teams they played this season(Us and Baltimore) lit them up. Dallas is bad. Philly is horrible. Washington, Miami, Cleveland aren’t good. Buffalo they played early and we’re still putting it together.They are not the '85 Bears
He's a matchup nightmare. We should try to put him in mis-matches more often, and when it's there, DW needs to take advantage.I definitely liked the use of Duke Johnson on the dump-offs because he has been way underutilized all season.
Brady missed multiple targets in the game imo he wasn’t accurate. it’s ok to admit he’s on the decline
To all the people who said Watson has to make more check down passes and look for the quick short pass:
You were right. When he does that, it helps the offense perform like it did last night.
There were a few quick passes he made to keep momentum and the offense moving.
Question their competition if you like. The stats backed up the hype. Don't undercut this victory.
To all the people who said Watson has to make more check down passes and look for the quick short pass:
You were right. When he does that, it helps the offense perform like it did last night.
There were a few quick passes he made to keep momentum and the offense moving.
The only Deshaun "haters" who should be eating crow right now are the ones who said he'll never get it.
This game, imo, shows he is starting to get it. & however badas5 his stats are now, however high he ranks now, is nothing compared to what we are going to see in the future.
Question their competition if you like. The stats backed up the hype. Don't undercut this victory.
Love it. That’s my post of the dayStolen from reddit (sorry for the language)
To me, it's not about "taking more short passes"... it's about taking what the defense gives. BUT, at the same time, you want to play to your offense's strengths. If Will Fuller is single-covered, with no safety help, and there's no blitz... I want to see DW take advantage of that situation. Trust that the protection will hold up and screw the check-down.
Honestly my takeaway is I’m a bad fan.
Has written this off as a L before the game kicked off.
O'Brien didn't seem to do much of the slow developing iso route stuff, maybe because Fuller was back
My only issue with this thought, is that this has been said for a good 4 or 5 years running now and every year he just keeps being the usual Tom Brady. There have definitely been struggles this year, but that is less on him and more on his terrible receivers outside Edelman. Sure, at some point he will truly decline, but I think he will walk away before that shows on the field.
Absolutely this.The only Deshaun "haters" who should be eating crow right now are the ones who said he'll never get it.
This game, imo, shows he is starting to get it. & however badas5 his stats are now, however high he ranks now, is nothing compared to what we are going to see in the future.
Brady is still slinging it - he leads the league in number of attempts. However, he's #29th in completion percentage. Not sure if that means he's missing more often or if his current receiving corps can't catch.My only issue with this thought, is that this has been said for a good 4 or 5 years running now and every year he just keeps being the usual Tom Brady. There have definitely been struggles this year, but that is less on him and more on his terrible receivers outside Edelman. Sure, at some point he will truly decline, but I think he will walk away before that shows on the field.
Why was Clark starting at RT? Thank god they pulled him in the 1st quarter, Roderic Johnson was the much better option and showed it the remainder of the game. We really need help at OLB. Martin showed flashes, Mingo kept getting stonewalled and Mercilus was always away from the play. I'll give Obrien his due, excellent game and a hell of a win. I'm still not buying into him until we actually perform in January.
Pats had only given up 4 pass TDs all year, and that was including the "vaunted" BAL offense. Texans put up 3 in one game on them.
Always selling O'Brien short. He masterminded 4 passing TDs last night. Watson threw three & caught 1
3+1=4
Ummm actually no he didnt "mastermind" anything. That trick play came about because the players recognized it earlier in the year (Chicago- offensive whiz coach) and wanted to include it in the playbook/gameplan for the week. If you want to give OBrien a cookie for "allowing" them to run it. Okay give him macadamia nut.
I prefer to give all the glory to just one - me!All parties deserves the credit for this win.
It's so fitting that Patton is your avatar!!I prefer to give all the glory to just one - me!
Dudes left foot never was on the ground. That wasn’t a catchTakeaway Number One:
The refs STILL don't know what a catch is. Check the video at the 5:05 mark.
Even Al Michaels was like "oooh, I dunno..."
Fuller’s touchdown catch was more of a catch than this one.Dudes left foot never was on the ground. That wasn’t a catch
Didn't Nick Foles do that in the SB or was that pass for 3 touchdowns and catch a touchdown?DeAndre Hopkins-to-Deshaun Watson TD has interesting origin
The final Texans touchdown in Sunday night's 28-22 win over New England was truly a collaborative effort.
In the boxscore, it'll go down as a 6-yard scoring pass from DeAndre Hopkins to Deshaun Watson.
But really, that duo, along with head coach Bill O'Brien, offensive coordinator Tim Kelly, backup quarterback AJ McCarron, a host of other Texans, and the Chicago Bears deserve some credit for the score.
"I think they drew that one up in the dirt over the bye week, and they brought it in and had it on a piece of notebook paper and handed it to me," O'Brien joked afterwards. "Nah, we've been working on that for awhile. It was all about the timing. Where we could get the ball so we could run a play like that. And the timing was right."
Leading the Patriots 21-9, early in final quarter, the Texans faced a 1st-and-goal at the New England 6-yard line. Watson took the snap, handed off to running back Duke Johnson, who quickly handed it to Hopkins. The All-Pro receiver went right along the line of scrimmage and then flipped it forward to Watson. The signal-caller caught it, dove and stretched for the score, and after the Ka'imi Fairbairn extra point, led 28-9 with 9:58 left in the game.
It was the first completed pass in three attempts for Hopkins' career, and he said a play that was run with ease in practice over the last month was made a lot tougher by the Patriots defense.
"They played it very well," Hopkins said. "They were patient. So I knew I had to kind of tuck the ball and wait for them to commit to throw it to Deshaun. I knew once I threw it to him, he was going to be in."
Watson said he and McCarron saw the Bears run a similar type of play a month or so ago, and showed it to Kelly. They also let Hopkins know about it, and he was all for trying it, too. Ultimately, the Texans knew they'd be able to use it only in a certain situation. That situation came to be on Sunday evening inside NRG Stadium.
"We kept working on it and we knew it was the perfect time where once we get inside that 5 it was going to come," Watson said. "So it was good."
It was the first NFL reception for Watson, and he joined Arian Foster as the only players in franchise history to throw, catch and run for a touchdown. He and Chicago Bear quarterback Jim McMahon (Week 4, 1985) are the only players in NFL history to throw three touchdowns and also catch a score in a game.