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Texansphan

Texansphan

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Well here we are 4 weeks in and the boys have been slightly underwhelming.
All three of their wins have been high blood pressure affairs although the Jags game was pleasing in one aspect and that is they were able to save their best drive till last to finish over the top of a pretty good but tiring defense and snatch the game away from a plucky Jags unit.
Looked to me like Slowik just handed the reins to CJ and got out of the way!
Last week at the Vikings was just disastrous.
I have never been so disgusted with our penalty count. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot! Smh.
These grown azz men have been playing football since they were kids so they damn well know how to line up etc,.
The penalty count is unacceptable for professional football players.
I put the blame for this lack of discipline on Demeco. Yes, he must accept some of the blame! He is a player's coach and they can be a little too pally.
He needs to start laying down the law where it is needed as the goddam HC. Doesn't need to get ugly, just lay down the law and preach the home truths.
Something has got to change if they want to challenge the top teams and they have a tough game this coming weekend against a wounded Buffalo.
I'll open it up for your thoughts on the team.
 
Mixon may be back next week and look at the fact that the Colts beat the Steelers!

Even though the Chiefs are undefeated the Bengals should have beat them and they haven’t been dominating so far.

Its the NFL and ‘any given Sunday’!

It’s all about who gets hot at the end of the season!

If the Texans can stay in the playoff hunt and hope to peak in December and January!
 
We overestimate our team. I think that's the biggest problem. On paper we have a talented bunch & Cj Stroud is definitely one of the best QBs in the league. But it's all got to come together.

You are what your record says you are. We all believe that to some extent. But don't want to admit that we're not much different than the Browns, the Colts, or the Jags.

So we create unrealistic expectations for our team & get upset when they don't reach them. The game against the Colts/Jags "shouldn't have been that close." Why not? That's exactly how close it was last year.

The penalties are ridiculous, why? That's exactly what they were last year.

Training camp is a joke, it's basically prolonged OTAs. They're just making sure everyone is in shape & ready to start the transformation into what they look like on paper. Getting ready to start separating ourselves from the Colts/Jags & Browns.

& hopefully their will be separation because we've gotten better, not just because they've gotten worse (as it looks like the Jags & Browns are going the wrong way).

I'm thinking about the Chiefs & how they appeared to go sideways making little changes year after year when Andy Reid took over & then their was a huge change when they found Mahomes. That's what many of us are expecting but that's not where we are.

We're more in the Patriots before Tom was Brady era. Those teams fought tooth & nail for every win, nothing was easy. But year after year they became a team expected to win 13/14 games a year.

I was hoping we were going to come out like the Kurt Warner Rams, but 4 weeks in I'm sure that's not going to happen.

I'm excited about what this team is going to be. Front row, watching it unfold. It's going to be a magical unforgettable season.
 
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thunderkyss said:
We overestimate our team. I think that's the biggest problem. On paper we have a talented bunch & Cj Stroud is definitely one of the best QBs in the league. But it's all got to come together.

You are what your record says you are. We all believe that to some extent. But don't want to admit that we're not much different than the Browns, the Colts, or the Jags.

So we create unrealistic expetitions for our team & get upset when they don't reach them. The game against the Colts/Jags "shouldn't have been that close." Why not? That's exactly how close it was last year.

The penalties are ridiculous, why? That's exactly what they were last year.

Training camp is a joke, it's basically prolonged OTAs. They're just making sure everyone is in shape & ready to start the transformation into what they look like on paper. Getting ready to start separating ourselves from the Colts/Jags & Browns.

& hopefully their will be separation because we've gotten better, not just because they've gotten worse (as it looks like the Jags & Browns are going the wrong way).

I'm thinking about the Chiefs & how they appeared to go sideways making little changes year after year when Andy Reid took over & then their was a huge change when they found Mahomes. That's what many of us are expecting but that's not where we are.

We're more in the Patriots before Tom was Brady era. Those teams fought tooth & nail for every win, nothing was easy. But year after year they became a team expected to win 13/14 games a year.

I was hoping we were going to come out like the Kurt Warner Rams, but 4 weeks in I'm sure that's not going to happen.

I'm excited about what this team is going to be. Front row, watching it unfold. It's going to be a magical unforgettable season.
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I’m 71 and old school to the point that I rarely watch the games anymore because I don’t trust the NFL anymore, ESPECIALLY the referees!

I pull for the Texans and Bengals but just get the scores and sometimes watch highlights.

One referee, don’t remember WHO it was, admitted that, during the Brady years, the Patriots would most often get the close/controversial calls!

He admitted it! Just like Mahomes and the Chiefs do now!

The way these players keep making more and more I see this sport eventually costing so much that even the ‘die hard face painted fans’ won’t be able to afford to go to games!

As corrupt as our deep state swamp government is, for anyone to truly believe that the NFL is free of any of that is truly naive ignorance!🥴😉
 
thunderkyss said:
The penalties are ridiculous, why? That's exactly what they were last year.
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No, the OL penalties are much higher than they were last year... the biggest difference is the center. No preseason play time for everyone to get used to his timing. As LT alluded to
 
JB said:
No, the OL penalties are much higher than they were last year... the biggest difference is the center. No preseason play time for everyone to get used to his timing. As LT alluded to
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Think about this for a minute . . . . BECAUSE OL/DL ‘holding’ is NOT reviewable, the referees can control the game JUST by NOT calling obvious holding calls OR calling phantom holding!
 
Porky said:
Slightly underwhelming? That's like saying the pagers were slightly disappointing in Lebanon.

No, they have been a massive disappointment through four weeks.
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I get it man!
I was hoping they would win it by two full scores and I was basing that on the thought that Mixon was active.
IF they can clean up the penalties and IF Mixon is good to go, I believe the Texans can be top ten or better in this league.
Right now you would say nah.
The Mixon factor in our running game is huge.
Would you have taken 3-1 before the season started?
 
JB said:
Did you expect them to be 6-0 after 4?
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You're falling into the "record" trap. How did that go in 2013 (another time of high expectations) when the Texans started 2-0 and I was waving all sorts of red flags...but but they are 2-0 so shut up.

The team went on to lose 14 straight games and finish 2-14. Just for those with short memories, see https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/hou/season/2013

Now you're telling me that since the team is 3-1 it's all sunshine and lollipops? I see what I see, and what I see is a massive disappointment against expectations. If they played the rest of the year as they did the first four - this is a 6 or 7 win team at year end and that's only because we have CJ instead of Schaub.

That said...I do think we'll see some improvement because I still believe in DeMeco...and since the division stinks, we'll probably backdoor our way into a division win. I'll say most likely 9 wins...if they can make those improvements and considering this division is bad. Then we'll get spanked by the Ravens again because we cannot compete with the big boys.

9-7 Brian!
 
Porky said:
Now you're telling me that since the team is 3-1 it's all sunshine and lollipops? I see what I see, and what I see is a massive disappointment against expectations. If they played the rest of the year as they did the first four - this is a 6 or 7 win team at year end and that's only because we have CJ instead of Schaub.
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No, their play has been disappointing in all phases of the game. I don't think you can call them a massive disappointment though. Because you really couldn't expect more from them so far. I was being a bit tongue in cheek in response to your hyperbole.
 
Porky said:
You're falling into the "record" trap. How did that go in 2013 (another time of high expectations) when the Texans started 2-0 and I was waving all sorts of red flags...but but they are 2-0 so shut up.

The team went on to lose 14 straight games and finish 2-14. Just for those with short memories, see https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/schedule/_/name/hou/season/2013

Now you're telling me that since the team is 3-1 it's all sunshine and lollipops? I see what I see, and what I see is a massive disappointment against expectations. If they played the rest of the year as they did the first four - this is a 6 or 7 win team at year end and that's only because we have CJ instead of Schaub.

That said...I do think we'll see some improvement because I still believe in DeMeco...and since the division stinks, we'll probably backdoor our way into a division win. I'll say most likely 9 wins...if they can make those improvements and considering this division is bad. Then we'll get spanked by the Ravens again because we cannot compete with the big boys.

9-7 Brian!
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It’s a 17 game season now Porkster!😉
 
Porky said:
You're falling into the "record" trap. How did that go in 2013 (another time of high expectations) when the Texans started 2-0 and I was waving all sorts of red flags...but but they are 2-0 so shut up.

The team went on to lose 14 straight games and finish 2-14. Just for those with short memories, see
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That team went into the tank because Matt Schaub became pick 6 Schaub because of injury just like Doc told us was going to happen. The defense couldn't overcome the freebies Schaub was giving the other team.
 
I want to address the 2 units that are lacking cohesion and also causing most of the penalties.

OL,

Tunsil- Didn't play or practice much in preseason, coming back from offseason surgery
Green- Hasn't played an NFL game in two yrs
Scruggs- Hasn't played C in the NFL before this season. Plus he's playing injured.
Mason- Didn't play in the preseason.
Howard- See Tunsil,

Is it any wonder that the OL doesn't have any cohesion and Green/Scruggs and to a certain extent Green/Tunsil are having issues picking up simple DT/DE stunts?

Secondary

Stingley- hasn't been as good as he was lat yr.
Lassiter- has exceeded my expectations but still is going through rookie growing pains.
Petrie- is who he is and is being asked to do things that aren't his strengths in the nickle defense. He should improve once Harris gets back.
Bullock- Has really impressed me, this guy's a playmaker and gives maximum effort. However he's blown a few coverages which is to be expected by a rookie.
Ward- vet presence, he got burned deep in the Colts game but missed breaking up that pass by a finger nail. Great play by Peirce. Ryans coach on the field.
Murray- Y'all know what I think of him and somehow he's still on the team and getting significant playing time. SMH

In short is it any wonder these units are struggling with cohesion due to lack of playing together and youth? They're going through growing pains. What I'm hoping isn't the truth is we have a bunch of dumb athletic OL that cant pickup stunts or understand the ZBS concepts. Because if this is the case this will be a lost season. You cant fix stupid.
 
steelbtexan said:
I want to address the 2 units that are lacking cohesion and also causing most of the penalties.

OL,

Tunsil- Didn't play or practice much in preseason, coming back from offseason surgery
Green- Hasn't played an NFL game in two yrs
Scruggs- Hasn't played C in the NFL before this season. Plus he's playing injured.
Mason- Didn't play in the preseason.
Howard- See Tunsil,

Is it any wonder that the OL doesn't have any cohesion and Green/Scruggs and to a certain extent Green/Tunsil are having issues picking up simple DT/DE stunts?

Secondary

Stingley- hasn't been as good as he was lat yr.
Lassiter- has exceeded my expectations but still is going through rookie growing pains.
Petrie- is who he is and is being asked to do things that aren't his strengths in the nickle defense. He should improve once Harris gets back.
Bullock- Has really impressed me, this guy's a playmaker and gives maximum effort. However he's blown a few coverages which is to be expected by a rookie.
Ward- vet presence, he got burned deep in the Colts game but missed breaking up that pass by a finger nail. Great play by Peirce. Ryans coach on the field.
Murray- Y'all know what I think of him and somehow he's still on the team and getting significant playing time. SMH

In short is it any wonder these units are struggling with cohesion due to lack of playing together and youth? They're going through growing pains. What I'm hoping isn't the truth is we have a bunch of dumb athletic OL that cant pickup stunts or understand the ZBS concepts. Because if this is the case this will be a lost season. You cant fix stupid.
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Training camp/preseason ain't what it used to be. The 1st 4 weeks of the season these guys are just getting their legs under them. We should see better play from the players & better game planning from the coaches from here on out.

It won't be night & day, expect improvement, but there are going to be some penalties next week. Expect some miscues in the offense as a whole. Expect some blown coverages... Hopefully we won't be embarrassed at home, but i wouldn't be surprised.

Trust the coaches, trust the process, keep your eyes on the prize.
 
Thorn said:
Maybe the team isn't ready to fully support the QB yet. I still think they'll make the playoffs again this year. The Texans are a better than average team, but they just aren't "there" yet.
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I don't see why not.
How much better does a QB have to be before you "support" him?
Plus, he is a team player and a decent human being.
 
Texansphan said:
I get it man!
I was hoping they would win it by two full scores and I was basing that on the thought that Mixon was active.
IF they can clean up the penalties and IF Mixon is good to go, I believe the Texans can be top ten or better in this league.
Right now you would say nah.
The Mixon factor in our running game is huge.
Would you have taken 3-1 before the season started?
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Before the season, I thought Minnesota could be a loss but had us at 4 and 0. Yes, I would have taken three and one record but not the way we played. Sloppy Ws count but not what most of us want to watch.
As this game started, I expected 1 TD by run; 2 by pass + 2 FGs 27-10 but thought we should hit 41. My 27 was close but I did not see our defense giving up 20 points.

Top 10? Wut? We need to be in the conference game and should win it.

Nick did not get Stephon Diggs and Danielle Hunter to be 10th best.
 
Texansphan said:
I don't see why not.
How much better does a QB have to be before you "support" him?
Plus, he is a team player and a decent human being.
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That is not the way I read Thorn's comment. Perhaps he will clarify? I think he was saying we have the great quarterback but the team is not there to support/help him yet.
 
Texansphan said:
I don't see why not.
How much better does a QB have to be before you "support" him?
Plus, he is a team player and a decent human being.
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That's not what I meant. What I meant was the team doesn't have all the skilled players necessary to support a franchise QB. The defense isn't ready to handle playoff caliber QBs and our offense line is trash. If Lawrence of Jacksonhole was a decent enough QB to make those long passes, we'd be 2-2 right now, not 3-1.
 
Thorn said:
Maybe the team isn't ready to fully support the QB yet. I still think they'll make the playoffs again this year. The Texans are a better than average team, but they just aren't "there" yet.
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Hopefully they will be there by the end of the season.
 
Thorn said:
That's not what I meant. What I meant was the team doesn't have all the skilled players necessary to support a franchise QB. The defense isn't ready to handle playoff caliber QBs and our offense line is trash. If Lawrence of Jacksonhole was a decent enough QB to make those long passes, we'd be 2-2 right now, not 3-1.
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If Stroud has made that pass to Collins for the TD, or Sims would stop fumbling the ball then the Texans would have won regardless of how Lawrence played. Not to mention all of the penalties.
 
steelbtexan said:
If Stroud has made that pass to Collins for the TD, or Sims would stop fumbling the ball then the Texans would have won regardless of how Lawrence played. Not to mention all of the penalties.
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The Texans played like crap and won by beating a team playing even worse. I'll take it, but I don't have to appreciate the sloppy play.
 
steelbtexan said:
If Stroud has made that pass to Collins for the TD, or Sims would stop fumbling the ball then the Texans would have won regardless of how Lawrence played. Not to mention all of the penalties.
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The only reason Jags were in that game is because of those two things:
1. Muffed punt
2. Offensive drive killing penalties

Texans had them but penalty after penalty and those two errors by Sims (muffed punt and unnecessary roughness) gave the Jags the opportunity to be in the game.

Sims is going to get cut.
 
We surely know how to overreact around this camp. Just imagine if we are in the Jaguars situation, 0 and darn 4. lol

Man we’re 3 and freaking 1 and still have plenty of seasons to work out our differences. They did it last season right, so how about giving them that chance gents.

In that first game the offense handled their business. That’s with Scruggs at Center. He got injured, missed a game and they looked like straight up garbage. Now that he’s back it’s his fault that they’re looking like crap still. It’s his fault that Tunsil continues to get false start and illegal formation penalties. Too freaking funny.

I will give Coach and company the benefit of the doubt. By week 8 I believe they’re have a lot of this stuff cleared up.

Exercise some patience Texans fans. Rome wasn’t built after one successful season.
 
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Texansballer74 said:
Now that he’s back it’s his fault that they’re looking like crap still. It’s his fault that Tunsil continues to get false start and illegal formation penalties.
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I find it interesting this is how you interpret the debate. No one is saying it's Scruggs' fault. Especially not the illegal formation penalties. That's squarely on inconsistent refs.

The false starts... we're saying Tunsil & Scruggs aren't on the same page & the blame there is shared. He has to get off the ball as it is snapped. A fraction of a second later & he is late.

Honest question, we all believe Tunsil needs to work on this. What exactly do you think he should be doing to work on it? What kind of drills should he do? What kind of practice?
 
Texansballer74 said:
We surely know how to overreact around this camp. Just imagine if we are in the Jaguars situation, 0 and darn 4. lol

Man we’re 3 and freaking 1 and still have plenty of seasons to work out our differences. They did it last season right, so how about giving them that chance gents.

In that first game the offense handled their business. That’s with Scruggs at Center. He got injured, missed a game and they looked like straight up garbage. Now that he’s back it’s his fault that they’re looking like crap still. It’s his fault that Tunsil continues to get false start and illegal formation penalties. Too freaking funny.

I will Coach and company the benefit of the doubt. By week 8 I believe they’re have a lot of this stuff cleared up.

Exercise some patience Texans fans. Rome wasn’t built after one successful season.
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It's the entire OL's fault. I totally agree about giving them time to jell.

You're focusing on Tunsil rather than the entire OL. You know who's been the worst OL out of the group? Green
 
thunderkyss said:
I find it interesting this is how you interpret the debate. No one is saying it's Scruggs' fault. Especially not the illegal formation penalties. That's squarely on inconsistent refs.
the Texans have
The false starts... we're saying Tunsil & Scruggs aren't on the same page & the blame there is shared. He has to get off the ball as it is snapped. A fraction of a second later & he is late.

Honest question, we all believe Tunsil needs to work on this. What exactly do you think he should be doing to work on it? What kind of drills should he do? What kind of practice?
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The center is the 2nd most important position on the offense IMHO and the Texans have a young center that's starting his 5th game so of course he's still learning on the job. He will learn and the OL should be much better in week 10 vs now. Question is, what will the Texans record be by week 10
 
thunderkyss said:
I find it interesting this is how you interpret the debate. No one is saying it's Scruggs' fault. Especially not the illegal formation penalties. That's squarely on inconsistent refs.

The false starts... we're saying Tunsil & Scruggs aren't on the same page & the blame there is shared. He has to get off the ball as it is snapped. A fraction of a second later & he is late.

Honest question, we all believe Tunsil needs to work on this. What exactly do you think he should be doing to work on it? What kind of drills should he do? What kind of practice?
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That’s exactly what y’all said. It wasn’t an issue in the first game right? We all raved about how good that offensive line looked. Especially in run pro. They also didn’t get penalized a lot either correct?


Again Tunsil has been getting those false starts way before Scruggs. Tunsil is cheating the snap count. How about we call a spade a spade. Those false starts are on Tunsil and that’s it. This previous game I don’t think he was called for one false start. Hopefully he keeps that up
 
steelbtexan said:
I want to address the 2 units that are lacking cohesion and also causing most of the penalties.

OL,

Tunsil- Didn't play or practice much in preseason, coming back from offseason surgery
Green- Hasn't played an NFL game in two yrs
Scruggs- Hasn't played C in the NFL before this season. Plus he's playing injured.
Mason- Didn't play in the preseason.
Howard- See Tunsil,

Is it any wonder that the OL doesn't have any cohesion and Green/Scruggs and to a certain extent Green/Tunsil are having issues picking up simple DT/DE stunts?

Secondary

Stingley- hasn't been as good as he was lat yr.
Lassiter- has exceeded my expectations but still is going through rookie growing pains.
Petrie- is who he is and is being asked to do things that aren't his strengths in the nickle defense. He should improve once Harris gets back.
Bullock- Has really impressed me, this guy's a playmaker and gives maximum effort. However he's blown a few coverages which is to be expected by a rookie.
Ward- vet presence, he got burned deep in the Colts game but missed breaking up that pass by a finger nail. Great play by Peirce. Ryans coach on the field.
Murray- Y'all know what I think of him and somehow he's still on the team and getting significant playing time. SMH

In short is it any wonder these units are struggling with cohesion due to lack of playing together and youth? They're going through growing pains. What I'm hoping isn't the truth is we have a bunch of dumb athletic OL that cant pickup stunts or understand the ZBS concepts. Because if this is the case this will be a lost season. You cant fix stupid.
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Logically The OL should improve but man, it better hurry up! Just cleaning up the damn penalties would be a big improvement for starters. Laremy Tunsils has no business committing so many presnap penalties - he's been playing football for how long?
Bullock and Lassiter have been bright spots on the defense. Thank God.
Decent post dude
 
Texansphan said:
Logically The OL should improve but man, it better hurry up! Just cleaning up the damn penalties would be a big improvement for starters. Laremy Tunsils has no business committing so many presnap penalties - he's been playing football for how long?
Bullock and Lassiter have been bright spots on the defense. Thank God.
Decent post dude
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We've been talking about this in another thread, Tunsil is trying to get off exactly when the ball is snapped. All OT's do this, sometimes the timing between the center and the OT's are off and that causes these type issues. (No I'm not blaming these issues on Scruggs) Then you look at the types of things that aren't called on the Chiefs OT's that are called on other teams OT's and I think we can see what's going on here.
 
Texansballer74 said:
That’s exactly what y’all said. It wasn’t an issue in the first game right?
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I don't remember what "y'all" said about it back then. I can imagine someone say it's one of those things that will work out over time... pretty much what "y'all" are saying now.
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Again Tunsil has been getting those false starts way before Scruggs.
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& the OL has been a revolving door for a while.
Texansballer74 said:
Tunsil is cheating the snap count.
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"Cheating" is such a strong word.
Texansballer74 said:
Those false starts are on Tunsil and that’s it.
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Again, if you were Tunsil what would you do to work on it? I've asked this question several times & those criticizing Tunsil don't engage. Not you in particular, but why?

I think either they don't know the mechanics of an OT getting off the snap or they do. The only way he can work on this is with the Center. He can't fix it on his own. Not possible.
 
thunderkyss said:
I don't remember what "y'all" said about it back then. I can imagine someone say it's one of those things that will work out over time... pretty much what "y'all" are saying now.

& the OL has been a revolving door for a while.

"Cheating" is such a strong word.

Again, if you were Tunsil what would you do to work on it? I've asked this question several times & those criticizing Tunsil don't engage. Not you in particular, but why?

I think either they don't know the mechanics of an OT getting off the snap or they do. The only way he can work on this is with the Center. He can't fix it on his own. Not possible.
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Simple stop cheating the snap count.
 
pokerfaceSATX said:
I would’ve liked to see either Demeco or Slowik ripping into the O line like Demeco did to the D. That seemed to fire the D up.
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The thing is that we don't know that they haven't.

The only reason we know about the D is because Danielle Hunter brought it up. Otherwise no one would have a clue. This is what annoys me about the idea that Demeco is too soft on the team because we have no idea what happens behind closed doors.
 
My Mom always said you can catch more flies with honey then you can with vinegar.

In a nutshell, that is DeMeco’s style and generally speaking, it works…especially with the moderne athlete.

But there are times when a guy needs to be waterboarded with vinegar. Laremy Tunsil is that guy, and more broadly the offensive line are those men. Someone needs to chew their asses out, and then make them work on the basics every day at practice until the cohesion starts to settle In.

I see a lot of excuses. These are very highly paid professionals. I don’t want excuses, I want guys that are out there at midnight if necessary drilling on the basics.
 
Porky said:
My Mom always said you can catch more flies with honey then you can with vinegar.

In a nutshell, that is DeMeco’s style and generally speaking, it works…especially with the moderne athlete.

But there are times when a guy needs to be waterboarded with vinegar. Laremy Tunsil is that guy, and more broadly the offensive line are those men. Someone needs to chew their asses out, and then make them work on the basics every day at practice until the cohesion starts to settle In.

I see a lot of excuses. These are very highly paid professionals. I don’t want excuses, I want guys that are out there at midnight if necessary drilling on the basics.
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I have to agree, except for the collecting of flies, thats just always seemed odd to me.

Of course, it seems to be the opposite with fruit flies. Those little bastards love them some vinegar, especially the apple cider kind.
 
Porky said:
My Mom always said you can catch more flies with honey then you can with vinegar
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I watched coach Carter last night. He didn’t use honey. The movie ended with his team being a low seed in the playoffs & they lost.
 
Thorn said:
Maybe the team isn't ready to fully support the QB yet. I still think they'll make the playoffs again this year. The Texans are a better than average team, but they just aren't "there" yet.
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Agreed. I thought we were still going to be a year away heading into the off-season. Then, we were incredibly active in addressing the holes in the roster. It was an impressive effort to responsibly plug a LOT of holes in one off-season. Well, it looks like we needed to do more with the OLine and probably another successful move or two was needed in the secondary. Instead, we are the best team in a bad division that will need some good fortune with player development on the back end of the roster, a great player transaction, or some exceptionally good in-season schematic adjustments to become a legitimate championship threat.
 
dalemurphy said:
Agreed. I thought we were still going to be a year away heading into the off-season. Then, we were incredibly active in addressing the holes in the roster. It was an impressive effort to responsibly plug a LOT of holes in one off-season. Well, it looks like we needed to do more with the OLine and probably another successful move or two was needed in the secondary. Instead, we are the best team in a bad division that will need some good fortune with player development on the back end of the roster, a great player transaction, or some exceptionally good in-season schematic adjustments to become a legitimate championship threat.
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In your opinion who are the top 5 teams in the conference?
 
thunderkyss said:
In your opinion who are the top 5 teams in the conference?
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I think we are among the top 5 in the AFC. Having said that, I think we are exposed with our OL in a way that is unlikely to be overcome this season. And, I don't like our chances to be healthy enough in January when our OLine has struggled all year, nor do I like our chances of winning 3 consecutive games against focused, good football teams.

Still, I am encouraged to see the line perform this week with Fisher starting at RT. I think it will make a significant, positive difference. It is impossible to play worse than Howard did the first three weeks, for sure.
 
dalemurphy said:
Agreed. I thought we were still going to be a year away heading into the off-season. Then, we were incredibly active in addressing the holes in the roster. It was an impressive effort to responsibly plug a LOT of holes in one off-season. Well, it looks like we needed to do more with the OLine and probably another successful move or two was needed in the secondary. Instead, we are the best team in a bad division that will need some good fortune with player development on the back end of the roster, a great player transaction, or some exceptionally good in-season schematic adjustments to become a legitimate championship threat.
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A start would be to get Mixon healthy.
 
dalemurphy said:
I think we are among the top 5 in the AFC. Having said that, I think we are exposed with our OL in a way that is unlikely to be overcome this season. And, I don't like our chances to be healthy enough in January when our OLine has struggled all year, nor do I like our chances of winning 3 consecutive games against focused, good football teams.

Still, I am encouraged to see the line perform this week with Fisher starting at RT. I think it will make a significant, positive difference. It is impossible to play worse than Howard did the first three weeks, for sure.
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I'm hopeful the OL will improve and Mixon will be a differencemaker when he gets back.
 
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