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16 days, 16 prospects for pick #16...
The NFL Draft is approaching and picking 16th, the Houston Texans can go many directions. We look at 16 possibilities for the Texans starting with UCLA linebacker Eric Kendricks.

It this series, we give you 16 players who could be the 16 th pick of the 2015 NFL Draft for the Houston Texans. With the NFL draft 16 days away, we take a closer look at the first possible option for the Texans.
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16 for the Houston Texans: Eric Kendricks

6'0", 232 lb. inside linebacker, Eric Kendricks, is one of the top linebackers coming into the draft. In 2014 Kendrick wonthe Butkus Award and Lott Trophy, ending his career with the Bruins as UCLA’s all-time leading tackler.

The All-American and team captain helped lead the...
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Kendricks is a can't miss prospect. Absolutely love him as a football player. He could live in the backfield, in space, secondary, sideline to sideline, always around the ball. Honestly there will be higher rated prospects in this grouping, more pro size, not necessarily more pro ready. Just hard to sell LB over QB, OT, CB, NT/DT or WR.

Would also say in John McClain ludicrous summation of Texans most dire need (OLB) "they lost Brooks Reed & have nobody to replace him so they have to get one of the top 6 OLB's (in first round). [paraphrasing off memory from sports radio 610 on Texans all access]. If that where the case, then why did they let him walk? If his value directly translates to a first round pick, that makes no sense. Same or similar money, with learning curve already completed. His first pick was Bud Dupree, second mock had Shane Ray. His third mock comes out Thursday so possibly Randy Gergory? Certainly all will be listed in this 16 days 16 prospect state of the Texans exercise. :mcclain:
 
16 FOR THE HOUSTON TEXANS: BRESHAD PERRIMAN
The NFL Draft is approaching and picking 16th, the Houston Texans can go many directions. We look at 16 possibilities for the Texans and the second name of the series is UCF wide receiver Breshad Perriman.

At 6'2" and 212 lbs., the former University of Central Florida’s Breshad Perriman has put his name into the hat as one of the top wide receivers in the draft. The All-American Conference First Team selection averaged 20.9 yards per reception and comes from NFL bloodlines with his father, Brett, having played for the Detroit Lions.

For the Knights, Perriman played....
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1537679-16-for-the-houston-texans-breshad-permian?s=116
 
beerlover said:
Kendricks is a can't miss prospect. Absolutely love him as a football player. He could live in the backfield, in space, secondary, sideline to sideline, always around the ball. Honestly there will be higher rated prospects in this grouping, more pro size, not necessarily more pro ready. Just hard to sell LB over QB, OT, CB, NT/DT or WR.

Would also say in John McClain ludicrous summation of Texans most dire need (OLB) "they lost Brooks Reed & have nobody to replace him so they have to get one of the top 6 OLB's (in first round). [paraphrasing off memory from sports radio 610 on Texans all access]. If that where the case, then why did they let him walk? If his value directly translates to a first round pick, that makes no sense. Same or similar money, with learning curve already completed. His first pick was Bud Dupree, second mock had Shane Ray. His third mock comes out Thursday so possibly Randy Gergory? Certainly all will be listed in this 16 days 16 prospect state of the Texans exercise. :mcclain:
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Kendricks is a bada** LB who can cover. I want him!!!

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=x24S4ce1h3s
 
16 FOR THE HOUSTON TEXANS: MALCOM BROWN

Considered a three-down defensive lineman, Malcom Brown was a two-year starter for the Texas Longhorns and considered one of the top defensive players in the nation as a junior.

Brown earned All-American honors in 2014 and was a finalist for the Bronko Nagurski and Outland Trophy. Not since 2005 has a Longhorns defensive lineman garnered All-American honors, but Brown changed that in 2014, joining the likes of past Longhorns...
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1537993-16-for-the-houston-texans-malcom-brown?s=116
 
I wanted the older kendricks. I'd be thrilled with the younger one as well. Would be a good time to grab him as cushing's days may be numbered. He'd help immediately.
 
16 for the Houston Texans: Owa Odighizuwa

The versatility of Owamagbe Odighizuwa and his 6'3", 267 lb. Frame have NFL teams interested in his raw potential at the NFL level. While still in the process of learning the game, Odighizuwa missed the 2013 season with surgery on both hips and he was granted a medical redshirt that allowed him to play in the 2014 season.

With five different defensive coordinators in five...
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1538364-16-for-the-houston-texans-owa-obdighizuwa?s=116
 
I think the premise is flawed. There aren't 16 players the Texans would consider when pick 16 comes up. And there aren't 16 players worth that pick when it comes around. I would guess 7 or 8 players would be in play.
 
Lucky said:
I think the premise is flawed. There aren't 16 players the Texans would consider when pick 16 comes up. And there aren't 16 players worth that pick when it comes around. I would guess 7 or 8 players would be in play.
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I think that's the logic that caught the Texans (Smith) by surprise in his first draft and led to the selection of Amobi Okoye, a player they had rated higher but didn't expect to be available and so may not have done all their homework on. You've got to have at least 16 people on your board that you're ready to pick at that point so that when your pick comes around, you ready for whoever appears.
 
The Pencil Neck said:
I think that's the logic that caught the Texans (Smith) by surprise in his first draft and led to the selection of Amobi Okoye, a player they had rated higher but didn't expect to be available and so may not have done all their homework on. You've got to have at least 16 people on your board that you're ready to pick at that point so that when your pick comes around, you ready for whoever appears.
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No, that's not what I'm saying. Or what the blogger is trying to do. Else, he will have Winston, Mariota, Cooper, and White eventually on his list. I think he is listing 16 players he believes will be available at #16. I don't believe there will be 16 legitimate options when the Texans pick at #16. There are certainly more than 16 players the Texans would consider in the entire draft pool. But, half of them will be off the board at #16.
 
16 for the Houston Texans: La'el Collins

Look no further than La’el Collins if an NFL team wants to beef up its offensive line. At 6'4" and 305 lbs., Collins was a second team all-american left tackle and the SEC’s top offensive lineman in 2014 for the LSU Tigers.

Primarily a left tackle for the bayou bengals, Collins registered 222.5 knockdowns in the 45 games he played. A three-year starter with 38 starts, he saw time at left tackle and left guard (sophomore season.) invited to the 2014 Senior Bowl, Collins put his versatility on display.
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Scout’s take
Brawling right tackle or guard prospect in the NFL who has had a...​
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1538626-16-for-the-houston-texans-la-el-collins?s=116
 
Lucky said:
No, that's not what I'm saying. Or what the blogger is trying to do. Else, he will have Winston, Mariota, Cooper, and White eventually on his list. I think he is listing 16 players he believes will be available at #16. I don't believe there will be 16 legitimate options when the Texans pick at #16. There are certainly more than 16 players the Texans would consider in the entire draft pool. But, half of them will be off the board at #16.
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I think you're taking it to literally.
 
16 for the Houston Texans: Kevin Johnson

http://hou.scout.com/story/1538827-16-for-the-houston-texans-kevin-johnson?s=116
Not getting the recognition like some of his counterparts, Wake Forest’s Kevin Johnson is a cornerback to pay attention to when the NFL Draft approaches.
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At the NFL Combine where he tested in the top of his position group. The 6'0" and 188 lbs. Johnson was in the top of his position group for the vertical jump (41.5 inches,) broad jump (130 inches,) three-cone drill (6.79 seconds,) and 20-yard shuttle (3.89 seconds.)


Scout’s Take
Johnson is a three-year starting cornerback who showed great improvement in man coverage from 2013 to 2014. While he lacks desired weight at the position, his cover skills, athleticism and competitiveness give him a shot to come in and start right away. Johnson can play gunner on special teams.
–Lance Zierlien NFL.com​
Although Wake Forest never finished above .500 during his five-year collegiate career, Johnson has been a bright spot on the Demon Deacons’ defense and one of the best defensive backs in the ACC with his natural cover skills. He doesn’t back down in run support with above average height for the position, but his lack of bulk and strength to be a reliable finisher are concerns for the next level. Johnson has experience in press and off-man, also playing zone coverages with the athleticism, recognition skills and self-confidence to make plays at every level of the field. He is a highly skilled cover man (athletically, mentally and fundamentally) and projects as a rookie starter in the NFL – top-20 prospect, who might never be an All-Pro, but should be a reliable starter.
– Dane Brugler NFLDraftScout.com​

How Does it Help the Texans?
The Texans have a young crop of cornerbacks with A.J. Bouye, Darryl Morris, and Jumal Rolle, and veterans in Kareem Jackson and Johnathan Joseph. With Joseph entering his last year of his contract...
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Louis Riddick, one of the best DB scouts I know of, has Johnson rated the best CB in this draft. And we'd have two KJs... so there's that.
 
Marshall said:
He's the only one of the top three without the character red flag. Marcos can't get along with coaches (like daddy?) and PJ has self control issues. I'd take Kevin before either of the others.
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You have an odd top 3.

Trae Waynes is the top CB on most lists.
 
Marshall said:
Would you believe...top three CBs?

And yes, I forgot about Trey Waynes and Darby had not surged into consideration at the time.
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I assumed you were talking top 3 CBs - and still no.

Trey Waynes is the CB most consistently listed in the top 3, followed by Collins and then Peters. PJ rarely appears.
 
infantrycak said:
I assumed you were talking top 3 CBs - and still no.

Trey Waynes is the CB most consistently listed in the top 3, followed by Collins and then Peters. PJ rarely appears.
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I edited the quote and would add Collins to those I failed to remember because I expected them to be gone before our first pick and without a chance of falling to 51. I was remembering the three which were bunched around 40 and hoped one or more would fall to 51.
 
16 for the Houston Texans: Todd Gurley
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His 2014 season was a season that saw him suspended for the start of the season due to an autograph scandal that saw Gurley pocket money in the end. Gurley talked about his mistake, “Just man up to my mistakes. I made a dumb mistake and I suffered the consequences. I had to move on from that, but just show them that I’m a great person at the end of the day.”
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His season was ended early with a torn ACL against the Auburn Tigers ending his season. In a shorten season, Gurley rushed for 7.4 yards a carry for 911 rushing yards and nine rushing touchdowns.

Gurley has been brought in by the Texans for a pre-draft visit and has been officially cleared with a health re-check on his ACL in Indianapolis this past week.
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The rumors have been tagging Gurley to the Texans over the past few weeks, but with more needs on offense Gurley could be a luxury pick sitting behind Arian Foster.

Scout’s Take
The rehab work and NFL Scouting Combine medicals will be extremely important for Gurley's draft stock as teams assess his potential durability as an NFL running back. He played less than 40 percent of his team's offensive snaps over the last three years, so there is plenty of tread still on the tires. Has the talent to be a top-five NFL running back, but ACL tear clouds the short-term picture.
–Lance Zierlien NFL.com

Gurley is the best running back talent in the 2015 draft class and has the skill-set to carry an offense and be the type of talent defensive coordinators must gameplan for. In Georgia’s pro-style offense, he achieved most of his production from I-formation, showing off his all-around skill-set rushing, receiving and blocking. Gurley has an impressive blend of power, vision and athleticism and, simply put, it’s tough to find glaring weaknesses in his game. He plays with a natural, intuitive run style, sensing daylight and reading quickly to find holes. Gurley runs with grown-man strength and hits the line of scrimmage with authority, but also displays the lateral quickness and explosive qualities to win with power or agility. He compares favorably to a blend of Marshawn Lynch and Fred Taylor and is one of the top-10 talents in the 2015 draft class, but the durability question hurts his draft value and is the only concern that could keep him from being one of the NFL’s best all-around backs.
– Dane Brugler NFLDraftScout.com​
How Does it Help the Texans?
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Bill O’Brien’s offense has also showed that he is not afraid to use formations involving two running backs, and this could be something the Texans are considering to expand their offense.
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1539233-16-for-the-houston-texans-todd-gurley?s=116
 
steelbtexan said:
After what happened with Clowney last yr I don't see any way that the Texans pick Gurley at 16. Of course with Smith you cant ever underestimate his ability to fail.
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ya never know... If Gurley is picked someone would have had to push hard for him. I don't think he'd be Rick's pick.
 
JB said:
ya never know... If Gurley is picked someone would have had to push hard for him. I don't think he'd be Rick's pick.
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I think the Texans have a board and if someone they value really high is still there they will get serious consideration no matter what position they plays. I doubt they pass on a far superior talent in the first round because a far lesser talented guy that plays a need is available. But that is just me.
 
mussop said:
I think the Texans have a board and if someone they value really high is still there they will get serious consideration no matter what position they plays. I doubt they pass on a far superior talent in the first round because a far lesser talented guy that plays a need is available. But that is just me.
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I certainly hope not. I also think they need to draft to fill next year's holes, and RB is a big one
 
JB said:
I certainly hope not. I also think they need to draft to fill next year's holes, and RB is a big one
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Foster and Blue will be under contract in 2016, why do you see this position as a hole? Foster's cap will be less than Joseph's cap this season. I don't follow.
 
Just reading that site and thinking about Penn St. products being drafted for the Texans. You could do a lot worse than,

1. Dupree
2. Donovan Smith
3. Mike Davis
4. Adrian Amos.
5. Mike Hull

In fact I would be dancing in the streets with that draft.
 
badboy said:
Foster and Blue will be under contract in 2016, why do you see this position as a hole? Foster's cap will be less than Joseph's cap this season. I don't follow.
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I think Foster's injury time and cap # combined will have him looking for greener pastures after this year. I don't have confidence in Blue as a #1 back. Poor vision and not good speed.

OB has stated he wants a running team. IMO we need a back this year because after Foster we have? And nothing leads me to believe that Foster can play more than last year.
 
JB said:
I think Foster's injury time and cap # combined will have him looking for greener pastures after this year. I don't have confidence in Blue as a #1 back. Poor vision and not good speed.

OB has stated he wants a running team. IMO we need a back this year because after Foster we have? And nothing leads me to believe that Foster can play more than last year.
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Yep there are worse things than having TWO really good RB's. Especially when one is later in his career. And if people want to freakout about his injuries, remember Foster has had back surgery. If his health checks out he is a legitamate franchise back level prospect. SMH There is so many ways we can go. Wish the draft was today.
 
Mike Davis is a poor mans version of Foster. Runs hard, has great hands, pass pro, good around the goal line. Good but not great speed. Can probably be had in the 3rd rd. I think my favorite RB D.Johnson will be gone by the time the Texans pick in the 3rd.

For a running team Davis wouldn't be too big of an investment in the 3rd. IMHO
 
16 For The Texans: DeVante Parker

The top three wide receivers is not the question, the order they go in the NFL draft is and Lousiville’s DeVante Parker could be in a prime spot to be in the middle of the first round.

At Louisville, Parker was a big play target that found the end zone 33 times in four seasons notching double-digit touchdown seasons in 2012 and 2013. In four seasons, Parker had 156 receptions for 2,775 yards and 33 touchdowns averaging 17.7 yards a reception
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That talent equated in 2014 to Parker averaging 142.5 yards a game while missing the first seven games of the season due to a foot injury. According to NFL.com, since 2012, Parker only has three drops recorded versus the 156 he caught in his career.
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The rangy wide receiver could inject life and speed into an offense and what he was able to do in a shortened Senior season for the Cardinals.
Invited to the Senior Bowl, Parker declined the opportunity but that has done little to sour his draft stock.

Scouts Take
Parker does his best work when the ball is in the air. He uses his height and wingspan to consistently snatch anything that comes his way. Parker isn't going to overpower cornerbacks and he will have more contested catches than most explosive wideouts. He has consistently posted eye-popping yards-per-catch numbers during his time at Louisville and showed of solid athleticism at the combine. Parker has the potential to be a legitimate lead receiver for a West Coast offense.
Lance Zierlien, NFL.com

Despite losing his quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, Parker passed on the NFL after the 2013 season and returned to Louisville for his senior year – it didn’t go quite as expected, missing the first seven games of 2014 after foot surgery. However when he did return, he was dominant in the final six games, averaging seven catches and almost 150 receiving yards per game. Parker will have some easy drops and needs to patch a few holes in his game, but he is long-striding athlete with better catch-and-go creativity and toughness than expected, using his wingspan and natural length to play above the rim. His size/athletic dimensions are first round quality with a large catching radius to be a playmaker at every level of the field – not quite on the same level as A.J. Green as a NFL prospect, but a notch below and belongs in the top-15 picks.
Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com​
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1539431-16-for-the-houston-texans-devante-parker?s=116
 
16 for the Houston Texans: Bud Dupree
When it comes to players with room to grow, look no further than Kentucky’s Alvin Dupree. “Bud” has been a standout edge presence for the Wildcats for the past four seasons.

In four seasons Dupree appeared in 47 games moving around, playing both inside and outside linebacker. He appeared in 47 games and had 247 total tackles with 23.5 sacks. In 2014, Dupree started all 12 games, finishing with 45 tackles, 7.5 sacks, and 12.5 TFLs.

Dupree feels he can play in either a 4-3 or 3-4 defense and he has the film to prove it. Some feel Dupree is a better option at linebacker, but he feels he can help at defensive end if needed.

“I think they’ve got me at linebacker because they’ve seen me do the 3-point stance," said Dupree. “I’ve got a lot of film in the 3-point stance and standing up. I think any team can see that I can play both positions.” If needed to cover as a 3-4 outside linebacker, Dupree, who has one career interception, feels he is more than ready to cover at the NFL level. Dupree on his coverage skills, contends, “I’m very comfortable. I got more comfortable this year by doing it a lot at practice, covering the slot.”

The 6'4" and 269 lbs. linebacker could help from day one on any defense. Running a 4.56 forty-yard dash and a 42-inch vertical, Dupree is a gifted athlete that is ready to contribute from day one.

Scouts Take
Dupree is an explosive, powerful athlete with a background in basketball. While he's been productive at Kentucky, his tape doesn't always do his potential justice. He must continue to improve as a pass rusher, but his traits are undeniable. Difference between being good and great might be his coordinator.
-Lance Zierlien, NFL.com

Dupree was a versatile two-way player in high school and also led the basketball team to a state championship in 2010, bringing that versatility to Kentucky where he excelled as a hand-on-the-ground defensive end before expanding his résumé as a senior, dropping into coverage with added outside linebacker responsibilities. He developed his frame and passes the eye test with strong work ethic and self-starting traits to stay in tip-top shape. Dupree displays above average range and closing burst to be explosive off the edge and hold up in space off the line of scrimmage, striking his target with violence. He isn’t yet the sum of his parts and needs some regular maintenance work, but Dupree has the physical ingredients that forces offenses to know where he is at all times – top-20 talent and fits both 4-3 (defensive end) and 3-4 (outside linebacker) defensive schemes.
-Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com​
How Does It Help the Texans?

The Texans could be set up well if they found a way to draft Dupree. His versatility to move around on a defense should not be over looked, but he would be primarily an edge player for the Texans. If the Texas were to add him to Whitney Mercilus and Jadeveon Clowney, they could be in good shape at the position for years to come. The defense could build a solid rotation at the postion and Dupree, with his size at 269 lbs., could play the SAM linebacker from day one, opposite of Mercilus and Clowney. Dupree’s abilty to rush from the three-point stance makes him a nice option in the nickel and dime schemes. Plus with his ability to play inside backer, he could provide speed in the middle of the field from that inside position.
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http://hou.scout.com/story/1539821-16-for-the-houston-texans-bud-dupree?s=116
 
Dupree is the 1b to my 1a pick of Randy Gregory at this point, though I'm worried some team without an edge rusher will draft him and put all that weight on him from day one.
 
I really want a pass rushing OLB in rd 1. Speaking of Parker, does it concern anyone else he's never had a 1000yd season? I like what I've seen of him, but his production is a bit concerning.
 
otisbean said:
I really want a pass rushing OLB in rd 1. Speaking of Parker, does it concern anyone else he's never had a 1000yd season? I like what I've seen of him, but his production is a bit concerning.
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Parker averaged 142.5 ypg last year. That's after losing his starting qb to the first round of the draft. If he doesn't start the year with a bum foot he's blowing 1,000 yards out of the water on the season. This kid produces.
 
otisbean said:
I really want a pass rushing OLB in rd 1. Speaking of Parker, does it concern anyone else he's never had a 1000yd season? I like what I've seen of him, but his production is a bit concerning.
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No concerns here as he had 55 catches for 855 and five scores in six games last season and e came back early from the foot injury as I recall.
 
16 for the Houston Texans: Cam Erving
After redshirting his 2010 season, Erving played defensive tackle in 2011, registering 20 total tackles and a sack. After some issues on the Seminoles offensive line, Erving was asked to flip to the offensive side of the ball and ended up becoming the team's starting left tackle in 2012, starting all 14 games.

“Honestly, when I made the switch a lot of people asked me how I felt about it in terms of the NFL. That wasn’t on my mind. I mean, I’ve always been the type
of person that does what’s best for the team," said Erving of his position switch for the 2012 season. “When I moved from defense (after freshman season,) that was what was best for the team. And that’s how I did. As far as moving from tackle to center it’s what the team needed at the time. So I did it.“

The move ended up being a good decision in the long run for both Florida State and Erving, as he protected the blind side of both E.J. Manuel and Jameis Winston. Erving started 42 straight games, ending up with All-ACC Honors and twice winning the Jacobs Blocking Trophy as the ACC’s top blocker.

Erving, midway through the 2014 season, was asked to move to center, where many NFL teams project him at the next level.

“It’s definitely a good thing, it’s a big positive," said Erving of being able to play multiple positions on the offensive line. “I’ve always taken pride in what I do, so to be able to play center and tackle – haven’t played a lot of guard, never played guard, honestly – knowing that they can stick me in and play guard as well is definitely a plus.”’

Erving’s versatility and potential for more growth as a lineman are intriguing qualities to NFL teams. At 6'5" and 313 lbs., he has shown he has good strength for the position and could potentially be a day-one starter for a NFL team.

Scouts Take
Former defensive lineman who is still learning the nuances of offensive-line play after just two seasons as a starter. Has the length and foot quickness to play tackle, but film work shows that he will have a much more successful career at center. Possesses skill set and temperament to show rapid development. Could be a Day 1 starter, but a year of seasoning would help.
- Lance Zeirlien, NFL.com

An All-American left tackle, Erving was the back-up center during FSU practices and moved inside full-time for the final five games of the 2014 season, solidifying the Seminoles offensive line and reinventing himself as a NFL prospect – appeared much more comfortable on tape at center. Although he started the last 42 games on the offensive line since moving over from defense, he is still raw in a lot of areas and not yet the sum of his parts, but the tools, intangibles and versatility are there for him to be a long-time NFL starter. Erving doesn’t have a preference at left tackle or center, but was a much better prospect inside, showing improved confidence and effectiveness in small quarters – top-40 prospect and the draft’s top center prospect.
- Dane Brugler, NFLDraftScout.com​
How Would it Help the Texans?

The Texans have a potential question mark on the interior of their offensive line, and finding a way to get a full-time starter in the mix on whom they can depend on for years to come would be something Erving could offer. He could potentially be the day-one starter at center and be there for the next five seasons, which the Texans got used to with Chris Myers in the position for seven years.
Erving could learn on the job and, teamed with Xavier Su’a-Filo and Brandon Brooks, give the Texans a good, young core in the middle of their offense. It might not be the flashiest pick, but it could be a solid one, taking Erving and not worrying about the center position for years to come.
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JB said:
I don't know about at #16, but with a trade down...
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Disagree. I'd take him at #16 and not even hesitate.

Now, if we could get him the same way we got Brown then I obviously wouldn't complain.

But Erving would beat out Jones for the starting Center job before he could even change out of his suit. He's a definite first round talent.
 
bah007 said:
Disagree. I'd take him at #16 and not even hesitate.

Now, if we could get him the same way we got Brown then I obviously wouldn't complain.

But Erving would beat out Jones for the starting Center job before he could even change out of his suit. He's a definite first round talent.
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Depends on how the draft fell. Would you take him at #16 if you could get one of your top 3 edge rushers or top 3 wr? Would you take him over your top ILB? CB?
 
bah007 said:
But Erving would beat out Jones for the starting Center job before he could even change out of his suit. He's a definite first round talent.
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I totally agree with this and I wouldn't be disappointed with the pick at all, just not sure he'll be top player at #16
 
I think we have a real NEED for Kendricks. I don't know who the BP(a) is, but I just wanted to say that.

Sorry Cushing, but it's (probably) time to start training your replacement.
 
JB said:
Depends on how the draft fell. Would you take him at #16 if you could get one of your top 3 edge rushers or top 3 wr? Would you take him over your top ILB? CB?
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See, there I'm not totally sure. It does depend on who else is available. I wouldn't take him over Dupree or Fowler. But I would take him over Beasley, Ray, and Gregory.

I wouldn't take him over White or Parker. I may not take him over Cooper either. I'd have to sit and think about it. Same with Waynes.
 
bah007 said:
See, there I'm not totally sure. It does depend on who else is available. I wouldn't take him over Dupree or Fowler. But I would take him over Beasley, Ray, and Gregory.

I wouldn't take him over White or Parker. I may not take him over Cooper either. I'd have to sit and think about it. Same with Waynes.
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Exactly! Too much unknown. Gonna be a good player available at #16

If it's Erving then it's all good, we have a need at C imho, but we have other needs as well. ILB as big as any of them
 
bah007 said:
I'd take him at #16 and not even hesitate.

Erving would beat out Jones for the starting Center job before he could even change out of his suit. He's a definite first round talent.
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Yep, zero issue taking him at 16.

How do you beat Brady? Pressure up the middle. We need to be strong there.
 
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