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State of the receivers

Seegara

Guitar Picker, Dog Lover, Woodworker
Points of concern are the health of Fuller and Coutee. Let me pose this question to you: Will Will Fuller ever take the field for Houston again? If so, for how long?
 

edo783

Hall of Fame
Fuller will definitely play this year. I expect he may miss a game or two, but I doubt he misses very much time. The same holds true Coutee.
 

Insideop

All Pro
Fuller will definitely play this year. I expect he may miss a game or two, but I doubt he misses very much time. The same holds true Coutee.
Man, I wish I had that much confidence in Fuller's health as you do! I don't think he's missed just "a game or two" since he's been here. Hope you're right about this but I'm not holding my breath!
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
It really comes down to Fuller/Coutee’s health. Both have shown the ability to peel coverage off Hopkins and stress the defense vertically and horizontally. I think 3 deep the Texans are as good as any team in the league.

Also extremely interested in seeing Vyncint Smith’s year 2 progress. Just a giant ball of raw athleticism year 1. It will be interested to see if he’s been molded into an impact WR. If not there is some legit competition from the UDFA ranks to push him off the roster. Throw in Deandre Carter as a solid if unspectacular backup slot and I am feeling good about the Texans WR room.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
Fuller is a top 15 receiver in the league barring his health. Some of the things he does are just filthy. He has improved his hands every year he's been here. It really is a shame that he can't stay healthy.

If we could see all 3 for a full 16 games (with a healthy Watson) who knows what our offense could do.
We got a taste of it in weeks 4-6 (wins against Colts/Cowboys/Bills). DW4 had 375 yards passing in the first two games then was held back to a conservative game plan due to the injuries sustained in the Cowboys game.
 

thunderkyss

It's good to be me... again.
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Coutee's injuries were all related right?

Torn hamstring. Came back too early. Torn hamstring. Came back too early. Etc, etc, etc...

A full off season & then some, he ought to be good now eh?
 

Number19

Hall of Fame
Fuller is a top 15 receiver in the league barring his health. Some of the things he does are just filthy. He has improved his hands every year he's been here. It really is a shame that he can't stay healthy.

If we could see all 3 for a full 16 games (with a healthy Watson) who knows what our offense could do.
Fuller has reportedly trained this off season with the goal of addressing/ reducing his injuries. What this included was not mentioned, but the fact he recognizes the problem and was taking steps to alleviate his injuries is encouraging. Now we just need to see the dividends.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
I would hope so. Looking at it like AJ’s injury plagued hamstring season (2011?)
AJ tore a small semitendinosus hamstring tendon (not muscle).
The remaining wisp of tendon was "clipped," essentially leaving him with less explosiveness which was definitely evident from then on. But this type of injury treatment resulted in a retraction of the muscle somewhat out of position upwards displaced from its original position. But the released muscle would then scar to surrounding hamstring muscles and still maintain some but lesser power. The resultant loss of explosiveness could be partially compensated by a savvy vet (route running).........and once clipped that hamstring is no longer exposed to such "re-injury" of that hamstring. Coutee on the other hand with his multiple hamstring muscle issues (and for those who may not know, they involved hamstrings on both of his legs) will likely remain a significant risk for the remainder of his career.
 
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Insideop

All Pro
AJ tore a small semitendinosus hamstring tendon (not muscle). The remaining wisp of tendon was "clipped," essentially leaving him with less explosiveness which was definitely evident from then on. But this type of injury treatment resulted in a retraction of the muscle somewhat out of position upwards displaced from its original position. But the released muscle would then scar to surrounding hamstring muscles and still maintain some but lesser power. The resultant loss of explosiveness could be partially compensated by a savvy vet (route running).........and once clipped that hamstring is no longer exposed to such "re-injury" of that hamstring. Coutee on the other hand with his multiple hamstring muscle issues (and for those who may not know, they involved hamstrings on both of his legs) will likely remain a significant risk for the remainder of his career.

From a player (Coutee) who said he never had these issues before to a player that now has "multiple hamstring muscle issues," what happened? Is this a product of his workouts, stretching, age, heredity, a combination of some or all, or something else I'm missing? Is Coutee now another "ticking time bomb" like Fuller and we'll never know when it's going to go off, we just know it will at some point?
 

Dejaview

Rookie
AJ tore a small semitendinosus hamstring tendon (not muscle).
The remaining wisp of tendon was "clipped," essentially leaving him with less explosiveness which was definitely evident from then on. But this type of injury treatment resulted in a retraction of the muscle somewhat out of position upwards displaced from its original position. But the released muscle would then scar to surrounding hamstring muscles and still maintain some but lesser power. The resultant loss of explosiveness could be partially compensated by a savvy vet (route running).........and once clipped that hamstring is no longer exposed to such "re-injury" of that hamstring. Coutee on the other hand with his multiple hamstring muscle issues (and for those who may not know, they involved hamstrings on both of his legs) will likely remain a significant risk for the remainder of his career.
From the picture it looks like his problem is he’s too skinny.
 

CloakNNNdagger

Hall of Fame
From a player (Coutee) who said he never had these issues before to a player that now has "multiple hamstring muscle issues," what happened? Is this a product of his workouts, stretching, age, heredity, a combination of some or all, or something else I'm missing? Is Coutee now another "ticking time bomb" like Fuller and we'll never know when it's going to go off, we just know it will at some point?
http://www.texanstalk.com/posts/2944409/
 

banned1976

American
If the Texans new regime treats every group like they have the WR group, they’ll be hoisting the Lombardi trophy sooner than later. The Texans have an army of good young talent on the depth chart at the WR positions.

Now do that with both lines, Texans. If the Texans WR’s (and TE’s) can stay reasonably healthy the Texans will be able to load up next offseason on the offensive and defensive los.

With all the weapons Watson has to throw to, there’s no reason he can’t challenge for the passing leader this season IF the line is half way decent.
 

Mangler

Veteran
With all the weapons Watson has to throw to, there’s no reason he can’t challenge for the passing leader this season IF the line is half way decent.
That’s one GI-NORMOUS “if”
But here’s hoping the offensive line is at least average this season with all the leaning curves throughout. That should be a big step forward!
 

steelbtexan

Hall of Fame
If the Texans new regime treats every group like they have the WR group, they’ll be hoisting the Lombardi trophy sooner than later. The Texans have an army of good young talent on the depth chart at the WR positions.

Now do that with both lines, Texans. If the Texans WR’s (and TE’s) can stay reasonably healthy the Texans will be able to load up next offseason on the offensive and defensive los.

With all the weapons Watson has to throw to, there’s no reason he can’t challenge for the passing leader this season IF the line is half way decent.
Hopefully this happens.
 

BOBdaFRAUD

Waterboy
Keke will save us all................. oopps his hammy is injured........... a.g.a.i.n.

Opppsss. BOB forgot you need more than 3 wr in this league. A.g.a.i.n
 
If the Texans new regime treats every group like they have the WR group, they’ll be hoisting the Lombardi trophy sooner than later. The Texans have an army of good young talent on the depth chart at the WR positions.

Now do that with both lines, Texans. If the Texans WR’s (and TE’s) can stay reasonably healthy the Texans will be able to load up next offseason on the offensive and defensive los.

With all the weapons Watson has to throw to, there’s no reason he can’t challenge for the passing leader this season IF the line is half way decent.
Agreed but there is another sword hanging over the Texan's heads. We have three great WRs right now but two of them haven't shown they can stay on the field for all 16 games. If all of them could then yeah I believe there are very few teams that these WR + Watson couldn't light up if Watson has a few seconds to throw the ball but out of 17 games last year we only had all that combo for 4 of them. TEs I'll believe that they will be used for more than extra blockers when I see it.
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
If the Texans new regime treats every group like they have the WR group, they’ll be hoisting the Lombardi trophy sooner than later. The Texans have an army of good young talent on the depth chart at the WR positions.

Now do that with both lines, Texans. If the Texans WR’s (and TE’s) can stay reasonably healthy the Texans will be able to load up next offseason on the offensive and defensive los.

With all the weapons Watson has to throw to, there’s no reason he can’t challenge for the passing leader this season IF the line is half way decent.
Really like the WR/TE athletic profile. Every WR except Hopkins runs 4.3-4.4 and can stretch the defense vertically/horizontally. Every TE comes in 250+ and has the size to cause matchup problems for DBs/speed to give LBs issues. Lots of opportunity for big plays with these weapons and DW4 at QB!
 

TheRealJoker

Hall of Fame
Hopkins is so tough/such a team player!

Rotoworld:

DeAndre Hopkins said he played with more pain last season than he had dealt with at any point in his career.
"Last year was tough, not just physically but mentally," Hopkins said. "It's the most banged up I've ever been playing football. I was dealing with serious injuries a lot of people would have sat down for. But we had a good team that depended on me, and I never gave a thought to not playing unless the doctors told me I couldn't." Despite playing through an immense amount of pain, Hopkins still tallied 115/1,572/11 as fantasy's WR4 in '18. Expected to be 100 percent come Week 1, he or Davante Adams are the No. 1 option at receiver across all formats heading into the season.

SOURCE: John McClain on Twitter
Jun 8, 2019, 5:38 PM ET
 

thunderkyss

It's good to be me... again.
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Hopkins is so tough/such a team player!

Rotoworld:

DeAndre Hopkins said he played with more pain last season than he had dealt with at any point in his career.
"Last year was tough, not just physically but mentally," Hopkins said. "It's the most banged up I've ever been playing football. I was dealing with serious injuries a lot of people would have sat down for. But we had a good team that depended on me, and I never gave a thought to not playing unless the doctors told me I couldn't." Despite playing through an immense amount of pain, Hopkins still tallied 115/1,572/11 as fantasy's WR4 in '18. Expected to be 100 percent come Week 1, he or Davante Adams are the No. 1 option at receiver across all formats heading into the season.

SOURCE: John McClain on Twitter
Jun 8, 2019, 5:38 PM ET
Sounds like we're going to be fined for failure to disclose major injuries on the injury report.
 


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