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Vinny said:
It will change sometime before camp....and btw, its DeMeco, not democo.
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I don't know what the deal is lately. Maybe still getting used to writing on a laptop keyboard instead of a desktop. I keep messing up, and no I haven't been drinking. :drunk:
 
You know Porky, after seeing that this thread had appeared this morning, I chose not to read it. But after thinking about it off and on today, I have to say that this is such an immature response to someone who was trying to be nice to David. Don't you think you have enough of these threads already that this is seriously a little redundant?

All of this has been said before. What are you going to do if David is still here come August? Therapy maybe???? Good luck.
 
Texanfan4ever said:
You know Porky, after seeing that this thread had appeared this morning, I chose not to read it. But after thinking about it off and on today, I have to say that this is such an immature response to someone who was trying to be nice to David. Don't you think you have enough of these threads already that this is seriously a little redundant?

All of this has been said before. What are you going to do if David is still here come August? Therapy maybe???? Good luck.
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Okay, let's recap.

You saw the thread. You decided not to read it. But then you thought about it off and on all day and decided to post something about it anyway. Then you caution someone else about a possible need for therapy.

Did I miss anything?
 
aj. said:
Then you caution someone else about a possible need for therapy.

Did I miss anything?
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yeah I forgot to respond to this in time.

I already have anger management therapy. And I am not allowed to watch any Texans' games without a big sheet of cardboard taped up on the screen. This blocks out everything on half of the field that might trigger an outburst.

Not to mention the nurses have to prerecord the games and edit out any close-ups and bleep out any foul references before hand.
 
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TwinSisters said:
yeah I forgot to respond to this in time.

I already have anger management therapy. And I am not allowed to watch any Texans' games without a big sheet of cardboard taped up on the screen. This blocks out everything on half of the field that might trigger an outburst.

Not to mention the nurses have to prerecord the games and edit out any close-ups and bleep out any foul references before hand.
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:joker:
 
Carr blows....lets get a real QB for crying out loud

the dude just doesnt have enough between the ears to ever amount to a hill of beans in the NFL...sad but true

so in closing, Carr blows
 
aj. said:
Okay, let's recap.

You saw the thread. You decided not to read it. But then you thought about it off and on all day and decided to post something about it anyway. Then you caution someone else about a possible need for therapy.

Did I miss anything?
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No, you didn't miss anything, it's really sick itsn't it. Hey, I'm the first one to admit that I probably need therapy too. No doubt about it. We just all need it for different reasons. LOL
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Just the thought of the fallout, if David is still here, to a bunch of people will be pretty disasterous. You know what I mean?
 
Texanfan4ever said:
Just the thought of the fallout, if David is still here, to a bunch of people will be pretty disasterous. You know what I mean?
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If David is still here, I'll be cheering for him along with the rest of the team. But I can't say that I don't think that if he starts every game, I expect him to cost us at least 2-3 games.
 
What's the official count for the number of losses with Carr as the starter for the Texans?

I think it is 53. If anybody knows different, let me know.

Testaverde Bucs 88-92 had 56 losses at most ( but Vinny didn't start them all, less than fifty )
Jake Plummer Cardinals 97-01 :53 losses ( I think, could be wrong )
Neil Lomax Cardinals 82-88 :57 at most /strike season though
Jeff Blake only had 50 some odd losses as a starter for the 94-99 Bengals

what a loser.
 
NATHANHALE said:
"Just saying ... Carr isn't the only problem, or the most glaring."

FYI, this was the post I was responding to--see the 3rd word? For me, he named an individual, so I was taking that as he had someone else in mind. His statement as he wrote it could be taken different ways...

If he had written the way you suggest, there is only 1 interpretation..did he ever answer the question either way?
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Geeez.

As I said in an earlier reply on this thread.

"I've noticed that some posters tend to ignore answers when they disagree with them."

I guess I could add an appendix saying: "or choose to twist them to mean whatever they want them to mean."

Any further discourse on this topic will be fruitless.

And yes...I do love using the smilies, thats why they are there...:D

:coffee:
 
The Pencil Neck said:
If David is still here, I'll be cheering for him along with the rest of the team. But I can't say that I don't think that if he starts every game, I expect him to cost us at least 2-3 games.
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Kolb's stock went up with the Texans based upon his performance in the combine.

Look for the Texans to dump Carr before the Draft.. If they draft Kolb in the 2nd, Carr's trade value approximates that of a 1977 AMC Pacer........
 
TwinSisters said:
What's the official count for the number of losses with Carr as the starter for the Texans?

I think it is 53. If anybody knows different, let me know.

Testaverde Bucs 88-92 had 56 losses at most ( but Vinny didn't start them all, less than fifty )
Jake Plummer Cardinals 97-01 :53 losses ( I think, could be wrong )
Neil Lomax Cardinals 82-88 :57 at most /strike season though
Jeff Blake only had 50 some odd losses as a starter for the 94-99 Bengals

what a loser.
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How many of these guys played from day 1 on an expansion team? None. Sorry, meaningless comparison.

:loser
 
QB75 said:
How many of these guys played from day 1 on an expansion team? None. Sorry, meaningless comparison.

:loser
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well let's see then...

Arizona Cardinals 2002-2006/ 25-55 founded 1920
Detroit Lions 2002-2006/ 22-58 founded 1930

Expansion team 2002-2006/ 24-56 founded 2002

Thanks for Tony Banks
( otherwise it would be meaningless and the Lions would have topped us )

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Lions and Cardinals founded around 1920 and 1930... actual dates not confirmed.
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Cleveland Browns 2002-2006/ 28-52 ( really 1999 )

too bad they had Tim Couch on that 9-7 season, otherwise we would have topped them too.

Oakland Raiders 2002-2006/ 26-54 founded 1960

Started out with a Super Bowl in 2002.
 
Koolaid Time said:
Kolb's stock went up with the Texans based upon his performance in the combine.

Look for the Texans to dump Carr before the Draft.. If they draft Kolb in the 2nd, Carr's trade value approximates that of a 1977 AMC Pacer........
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If they draft Kolb before the third, expect me to be the guy in the stands next season with my Carr jersey on....booing every play by Kolb. I'll take a page from the VY Lovers Playbook on that one.
 
Defense wins championships, sounds good ,and look at who was in the SB Da-Bears, and after Good defense in the playoffs the Colts. If you want wins, start calling all the sport news station with an informed opinion, fix the worst part of our team first, the defense, then tweak the offense, Sage may be the man, why spend $8 + on some other teams reject QB when we already have two ? Let's look at this team logicly, with out hate, write down the numbers by position, and find the cause of the problems and stop chasing symptoms.
 
srstex said:
Defense wins championships, sounds good ,and look at who was in the SB Da-Bears, and after Good defense in the playoffs the Colts. If you want wins, start calling all the sport news station with an informed opinion, fix the worst part of our team first, the defense, then tweak the offense, Sage may be the man, why spend $8 + on some other teams reject QB when we already have two ? Let's look at this team logicly, with out hate, write down the numbers by position, and find the cause of the problems and stop chasing symptoms.
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I agree that we don't need Plummer.

but let's see... thinking logically. We have been the most sacked team in the NFL for 5 years running. 2nd most all time for any 5 year period. hmm.... we gave up 41 sacks in '06, only using the shotgun formation 4 times, twice with our "Starter"... hmm.. logically, I'd say use more shotgun formations. & whatever reason you have for not, that is more than likely your biggest problem.
 
QB75 said:
How many of these guys played from day 1 on an expansion team? None. Sorry, meaningless comparison.

:loser
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...not on expansion teams, but more and more QBs are starting (and producing) in their 1st season-Cutler,Lienhart(sp), and Young. But,even if they had been in Carr's shoes, I think all 3 would either be producing by their 5th yr-now going on 6th-or they'd be gone.

Very few 1st rd qbs with their big money are kept by their signing team unless there is some ROI. So, while Carr's play has been 'stifled' by every excuse known to man (and some new ones), he's still with the same team that still pays him the big money--only 1 thing is missing...
 
time to ring the bell...

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/writers/phil_taylor/02/28/qbs.draft/

Sports Illustrated talking about 1st round wanna-bes, not-quites, and flat-out busts... and look whose picture is the center piece

I wrote the following nearly five years ago in this space:

Some guy named David Garrard was the Jaguars' fourth-round pick in the NFL Draft 10 days ago. David Garrard is a quarterback from East Carolina. With that sentence, I have completely exhausted my reservoir of knowledge about David Garrard. I don't know whether he's right- or left-handed, how fast he runs the 40, or if he has the arm strength to throw the deep out. But I do know this: There's a decent chance that David Garrard will have as productive a pro career as David Carr, the QB who went to the Texans as the No. 1 overall pick in the draft.
-- Hot Button, April 2002

Not surprisingly, nothing that's happened since has proven those words wrong. Garrard is a backup quarterback for the Jags who has had some impressive moments in relief of Byron Leftwich, and he's likely to start for someone in the future. Carr has had his moments too -- unfortunately many of them were spent on his back after the Texans' porous offensive line allowed another sack, and his future as Houston's starting quarterback is uncertain. The bottom line is that five years after the draft, the QB who was the top overall pick has an NFL future that's not much brighter, if at all, than the QB who was an obscure fourth-round choice. That shouldn't be a surprise; that's the way it is with quarterbacks.
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Carr sharing time with a backup that plays for Jacksonville.
 
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