Should the Redskins change their name?

[Speedy]

Two great grandmothers were full blood indians - one Cherokee , the other Comanche ....


Redskin doesn't bother me .... but some other native Americans take offense to it.

Someone somewhere is always going to be offended about something.

It's a damn sports team that doesn't mean a whole hell of a lot in the grand scheme of things. One that's been around for 82 freaking years at that. No one cared what they were called when they were winning Super Bowls. If you don't like their team name, root for the damn Giants. No wait, my great great grandpappy was part giant. They have to change their name too.

 

[Dread-Head]

No, but if I went around calling those with a darker pigment of skin than myself "black boys", wonder how that would go over? What offends me is that those who claim to be effected by racism and want to stand up and cry foul every time anything happens to someone from their culture, use this type of terminology. Either we are just human beings, intended to be treated equal, or we aren't. It isn't that one faction of society gets to be treated with kid gloves, and another can be treated with disrespect. Either times change, or they don't. We don't get to reverse the wrongs and everyone go home happy, that has been tried ... and so far doesn't seem to have worked out so well. Awesome song by the way ...

What I love so much about this board/group is that were you to ask many who've met me to describe me, the first thing they'd say is "He's crazy!" then they'd describe my personality and the hair and crap I've said over the years. The BULK of these guys probably would probably forget to mention that I'm black because in the grand scheme of things I don't think many of us in here view each other as "that black guy", "that white guy", "that hot indian/native American chick" or "That Amerasian guy."
Hell if someone asked me to describe Bill, I would describe him as the lovable, scruffy, hard drinking, skirt chasing party animal through whom MANY of us live vicariously. I hesitate to assign Bill to a group because, well... I KNOW no one wants to take responsibility for him. Just kiddin' Bill.

 

[chicagotexan2]

Man, some are taking this issue to extremes:

Political cartoon compares Redskins logo to swastika, confederate flag

They are going to Godwin's Law their own cause.

But DB this is a seminal moment in the history of this country. If we continue to allow this blatant travesty to continue we will turn back the clock on all the progress we've made as a people. I'm not looking for the sarcasm smiley.

 

[False Start]

Washington Bravehearts



Pretty damn lame IMO.


William Wallace as the mascot?

 

[TexasCowboy]

No they shouldn't change their name and feel the number of native american's
who feel this name is offensive? are skewed

 

[StarStruck]

I voted yes. IMO it all about what the person or group want's to be called more than what I want or feel comfortable calling them.

Being the senior citizen I recall even more controversy when Mohammed Ali changed his name, the resistance and refusal by some to acknowledge his wishes. Eventually, Cassius Clay became a fading memory. Hopefully, this too shall pass.

 

[Corrosion]

I voted yes. IMO it all about what the person or group want's to be called more than what I want or feel comfortable calling them.

Being the senior citizen I recall even more controversy when Mohammed Ali changed his name, the resistance and refusal by some to acknowledge his wishes. Eventually, Cassius Clay became a fading memory. Hopefully, this too shall pass.

That's a whole nother can of worms ....


I really don't care what they call the Redskins but ... after 83 years of history , it seems silly.

I bet the astronauts are offended by the Astro's , no way are they reaching for the stars , they are more disastro's than Astro's ..... haha.


Someone's always going to find a way to be offended ....

 

[eriadoc]

The team is seriously considering removing the offensive part of their name - Washington. They'll just be the Redskins.

 

[Mari-OWNED!]

The true irony would be the people that are protesting the Redskins name are still okay with using $20 bills with Andrew Jackson's face adorned smack dab in the middle of their currency.

Indian Removal Act of 1830/Trail of Tears ring any bells?

Let's get butthurt over something trivial like a football franchise name, but completely ignore something that is on a much much bigger scale like US currency.

 

[kingtexan]

The true irony would be the people that are protesting the Redskins name are still okay with using $20 bills with Andrew Jackson's face adorned smack dab in the middle of their currency.

Indian Removal Act of 1830/Trail of Tears ring any bells?

Let's get butthurt over something trivial like a football franchise name, but completely ignore something that is on a much much bigger scale like US currency.

You are assuming people have intellect and any clue about US History ... how dare you?!!

 

[Dutchrudder]

Dan Snyder Agrees to Change the Redskins Name: LINK

WASHINGTON—Following an outpouring of criticism from across the country, the Washington Redskins announced Wednesday that they are officially changing the team’s name to the D.C. Redskins. “We’ve heard the concerns of many people who have been hurt or offended by the team’s previous name, and I’m happy to say we’ve now rectified the situation once and for all,” said franchise owner Dan Snyder, adding that “Washington Redskins” will be replaced with “D.C. Redskins” on all team logos, uniforms, and apparel. “It was a difficult decision—and one that, frankly, I’m a little embarrassed took me so long to make. So hopefully we can now put this issue to bed and start cheering on our D.C. Redskins.” In light of Snyder’s decision, Cleveland Indians owner Larry Dolan told reporters he will change the feather in Chief Wahoo’s headdress from red to a “more appropriate” shade of red.

 

[Dread-Head]

The true irony would be the people that are protesting the Redskins name are still okay with using $20 bills with Andrew Jackson's face adorned smack dab in the middle of their currency.

Indian Removal Act of 1830/Trail of Tears ring any bells?

Let's get butthurt over something trivial like a football franchise name, but completely ignore something that is on a much much bigger scale like US currency.

Implying that people have forgotten the "trail of tears"? I envision Jackson in hell being tormented by every Indian who found himself/herself in Satan's company...but that's just me.

 

[Double Barrel]

The true irony would be the people that are protesting the Redskins name are still okay with using $20 bills with Andrew Jackson's face adorned smack dab in the middle of their currency.

Indian Removal Act of 1830/Trail of Tears ring any bells?

Let's get butthurt over something trivial like a football franchise name, but completely ignore something that is on a much much bigger scale like US currency.

Somebody beat you to that punchline long time ago.

Petition: Remove Jackson From the Twenty

Also, a website devoted to the cause: www.getjacksonoffthe20.net

Google...is yer friend

 

[Mari-OWNED!]

Somebody beat you to that punchline long time ago.

Petition: Remove Jackson From the Twenty

Also, a website devoted to the cause: www.getjacksonoffthe20.net

Google...is yer friend

Well of course there are people petitioning it, but my point is that most of the people protesting the Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians, etc. are completely oblivious when it comes to Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.

 

[Double Barrel]

Well of course there are people petitioning it, but my point is that most of the people protesting the Washington Redskins, Cleveland Indians, etc. are completely oblivious when it comes to Andrew Jackson on the $20 bill.

Oh, I agree with you. I was just curious and checked Google. I never knew there was an actual movement to remove Jackson from the $20 until you mentioned it. Honestly I find it kinda' bizarre, but to each his own, I guess.

 

[eriadoc]

I think what we have here is a trailing vowel issue.

LINK

Yet not all Native Americans oppose the term Redskins. Capital News Service identified three majority Native American high schools that use it proudly, including Red Mesa High School in Arizona.

“Being from Native American culture, [the term] is not derogatory,” said Tommie Yazzie, superintendent of the school district that oversees Red Mesa High School. He identified himself as a “full-blooded Navajo.”

Red Mesa High School is located on a Navajo reservation, and 99.3 percent of its students are Native American, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

Yazzie said people on his reservation care about more pressing things than the use of the name Redskins.

“Education, public health ‒ those are the things we’re more concerned about, rather than whether a team name is appropriate,” he said.

Though he said it was acceptable for schools with majority Native American populations to use the name Redskins, he believes that non‐Native American schools should avoid using it.

“If you were to put this in an urban area where the population is basically white, unless there is a cultural connection, it would be inappropriate,” he said.

He was also troubled by the use of Native American war chants and gestures during sporting events, something that is common at other schools with Native American mascots.

“We don’t use those gestures and traditions. As Navajos we have respect for warfare. Warfare means taking a life. And when a young warrior goes out to battle, [the gestures and war chants] belong there,” he said. “When you come back into civilian life, you don’t take that back with you. You don’t use the same type of gestures and hollering and bring that back into a sporting event.”

They need their own rap culture, the self loathing bastages.

 

[Blake]

http://tracking.si.com/2014/05/22/washington-redskins-senators-urge-name-change/?eref=sihp

Redskins name controversy: 50 senators sign letter to Roger Goodell urging name change

:wadepalm:

 

[kingtexan]

http://tracking.si.com/2014/05/22/washington-redskins-senators-urge-name-change/?eref=sihp



:wadepalm:

Glad the government has their priorities straight ...

signed,
homeless starving babies

 

[Playoffs]

Redskins name controversy: 50 senators sign letter to Roger Goodell urging name change

50 didn't.

 

[Blake]

50 didn't.

The ones that have bigger things to worry about than being the PC police.

Glad the government has their priorities straight ...

signed,
homeless starving babies

Exactly!

 

[NCTexan]

I'm amazed 50 senators could agree on anything...

 

[Brandon420tx]

Now my main reason for keeping the name is just to stick one to the politicians

 

[Double Barrel]

The problem for the NFL is that these politicians have great power over the league due to the antitrust exemption.

Lawmakers threaten NFL’s tax-exempt status over Redskins team name

In a strongly-written letter to NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, two lawmakers - Sen. Maria Cantwell, D-Wash., chairwoman of the Indian Affairs Committee, and Rep. Tom Cole, R-Okla., member of the Native American Caucus - indicated the league’s tax-exempt status could be on the line if the Washington Redskins does not change its name, the New York Times reported Sunday.

“The National Football League is on the wrong side of history,” the lawmakers wrote. “It is not appropriate for this multibillion-dollar 501(c)(6) tax-exempt organization to perpetuate and profit from the continued degradation of tribes and Indian people.”

Full article

That's not even an implied threat, but a straight up ultimatum. This issue could snowball and eventually force the NFL to change the name in order to protect their profit stream.

What is more important to the owners? Money or principle? Not really a serious question...

 

[PapaL]

I don't know if this was in the comments of said article since it's blocked at work but kind of funny and kind of truthful.

Here is an email sent to Clarence Page of the Chicago Tribune after an article he published concerning a name change for the Washington Redskins.


Dear Mr. Page...



I always love your articles. and I generally agree with them. I would suggest, as in an email I received, they change the name to the "Foreskins" to better represent their community, paying tribute to the dick heads in Congress.

Here are some other politically correctness to consider: I agree with our Native American population. I am highly insulted by the racially charged name of the Washington Redskins. One might argue that to name a professional football team after Native Americans would exalt them as fine warriors, but nay, nay. We must be careful not to offend, and in the spirit of political correctness and courtesy, we must move forward. Let's ditch the Kansas City Chiefs, the Atlanta Braves and the Cleveland Indians. If your shorts are in a wad because of the reference the name Redskins makes to skin color, then we need to get rid of the Cleveland Browns.



The Carolina Panthers obviously were named to keep the memory of militant Blacks from the 60's alive. Gone. It's offensive to us white folk.



The New York Yankees offend the Southern population. Do you see a team named for the Confederacy? No! There is no room for any reference to that tragic war that cost this country so many young men's lives.



I am also offended by the blatant references to the Catholic religion among our sports team names. Totally inappropriate to have the New Orleans Saints, the Los Angeles Angels or the San Diego Padres.



Then there are the team names that glorify criminals who raped and pillaged. We are talking about the horrible Oakland Raiders, the Minnesota Vikings, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and the Pittsburgh Pirates!



Now, let us address those teams that clearly send the wrong message to our children. The San Diego Chargers promote irresponsible fighting or even spending habits. Wrong message to our children.



The New York Giants and the San Francisco Giants promote obesity, a growing childhood epidemic. Wrong message to our children.



The Cincinnati Reds promote downers/barbiturates . Wrong message to our children.



The Milwaukee Brewers---well that goes without saying . . . Wrong message to our children.



So, there you go. We need to support any legislation that comes out to rectify this travesty, because the government will likely become involved with this issue, as they should. Just the kind of thing the do-nothing congress loves . . .



As a die hard Oregon State fan, my wife and I, with all of this in mind, it might also make some sense to change the name of the Oregon State women's athletic teams to something other than "the Beavers."

Keep those cards and letters coming.

 

[Dread-Head]

I don't know if this was in the comments of said article since it's blocked at work but kind of funny and kind of truthful.

Wow. Homeboy was comparing apples and spetic tanks.

 

[Thorn]

If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.

 

[Dread-Head]

If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.

Wow. I'm agreeing with Thorn on this one. Man maybe my female friends are right I AM a curmudgeon.

 

[BullNation4Life]

If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.

That's what Frank Underwood would do, hit them where it truly hurts...


Their wallet...

 

[Double Barrel]

If Congress gets serious about the NFL's tax exemption, Washington changes its name. That's simple. And it won't matter what your principles or opinions are, the name will change if it's going to interrupt the money flow.

yep. And this issue has not peaked. It is snowballing, and when you see 50 senators signing something, it will probably continue to gain steam.

Politicians love issues like this one. High profile, low risk. It is absolutely no work required on their part, but they get free publicity and get to morally grandstand.

The NFL has no leverage with the politicians on this issue. Between the tax-exempt status, trademark issue, and publicly financed stadiums, the NFL is at their mercy.

 

[mattieuk]

yep. And this issue has not peaked. It is snowballing, and when you see 50 senators signing something, it will probably continue to gain steam.

Politicians love issues like this one. High profile, low risk. It is absolutely no work required on their part, but they get free publicity and get to morally grandstand.

The NFL has no leverage with the politicians on this issue. Between the tax-exempt status, trademark issue, and publicly financed stadiums, the NFL is at their mercy.

Queue rumours of NFL franchises being relocated to Toronto, London and Mexico City in 3...2...1...



Seriously though - agree. The NFL has no footing in this battle if the politicians want to make a fuss about this. I think it is more likely a case of when, not if the name changes.

 

[Playoffs]

Redskins name controversy: 50 senators sign letter to Roger Goodell urging name change

http://files.redskins.com/pdf/letter-from-pres-bruce-allen.pdf

tl;dr = No.

 

[ObsiWan]

50 didn't.

here's the letter with sigs

LINK

 

[Carr Bombed]

So Washington plans on using the the tax exemption as a weapon against their enemies again? This time they aren't even trying to hide it.

If I was the N.F.L. I'd stand my ground and force them to do that. I'd love to see D.C. step in that big pile of a P.R. nightmare.

I wouldn't have a problem if they seriously considered changing their tax status, because they genuinely believed they shouldn't have a tax exemption, but by openly saying that your driving motive for changing their entire tax status is because you don't agree with one of their club's names is complete bull****, a blatant misuse of power, and targeting a group, because of a difference of views. (Hmm, where have we seen this before?) I hope to god the NFL holds their ground and forces congress' hand on that bluff.. because I'd love to see how that fiasco would end up... They'll be popping the top off a huge can of worms. So the NFL does have a leg to stand on (They have high priced lawyers too), whether they use it or not is a different story.

With this threat, congress/government just comes off looking more devious, untrustworthy, and incompetent... especially with the much more pressing issues facing this country that they elect to ignore. The N.F.L. shouldn't let them off the hook by cowering down to their demands. Force these morons to continue to show their ass.. I'm tired of people giving in to political correctness.. it's destroying this country

 

[Carr Bombed]

Wow. Homeboy was comparing apples and spetic tanks.

How so? What he said was 100% correct as teams across the nation at lower levels have already changed names like "Rebels, warriors, chiefs, Indians" ect.. since all of this debate started. It's getting plumb dumb ridiculous.

 

[Playoffs]

here's the letter with sigs

LINK

Did Cantwell circulate a petition to change her own high school's mascot... ?

Senator Maria Cantwell of Washington state, recently circulated a letter among her fellow Democrats demanding that the Washington Redskins change their name for being offensive and disrespectful to Native Americans.
...
Cantwell told the Washington Post she was appalled... the presentation of Washington’s team was “just so shocking to me,” and that the Redskins were offering “a caricature of a team that is not just respected by Indian Country,” she told the paper.

Cantwell might have been shocked earlier in life. Growing up in Indianapolis, Cantwell attended Emmerich Manual High School...its mascot is the “Redskins.”

 

[Lord Bills]

im not surprised at all at the poll results.


"YEAAA!!!! SCREW NOT BEING RACIST AND BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT!!! I WANT THE RIGHT TO BE AN IGNORANT BIGOT STOP ATTACKING MY FREEDOM!!!"

 

[Dan B.]

I love how the NFL wants the public to pay for their palaces, wants to pay $0 in taxes, but doesn't want the public telling them what to do. It's like a teenager living rent free in their parent's house and throwing a fit because Mom told them they can't wear a shirt with curse words on it to dinner.

 

[Carr Bombed]

I love how the NFL wants the public to pay for their palaces, wants to pay $0 in taxes, but doesn't want the public telling them what to do. It's like a teenager living rent free in their parent's house and throwing a fit because Mom told them they can't wear a shirt with curse words on it to dinner.

The public isn't telling the Redskins what to do... the elected officials who were in bed with the league and helped them sell the local citizen on paying to build those stadiums, also profited off of the revenue and jobs those stadiums brought to their cities/states are. So unless there is a lot of incest going on in your metaphor it doesn't really fit.

On the grand scheme of things, average joe really doesn't give a crap either way. Hell polls show that native americans really don't give a crap.. who does give a damn though is the grandstanding politicians who'll use every opportunity to get their face in front of a camera and their name out in the media. Especially on issues like this. This didn't become a big ordeal until it was "politicized"

 

[Carr Bombed]

im not surprised at all at the poll results.


"YEAAA!!!! SCREW NOT BEING RACIST AND BEING POLITICALLY CORRECT!!! I WANT THE RIGHT TO BE AN IGNORANT BIGOT STOP ATTACKING MY FREEDOM!!!"

So native Americans are racist against.... native Americans?

Are maybe you actually believe that damn near 80% of the posters who post on this board are racist and ignorant bigots? If you actually believe that well.. smdh.


BTW, the poll results don't surprise me either. If only congress put this much effort into more pressing matters, maybe we wouldn't be up **** creek right now with a boat load of scandals popping up each week. This whole outrage by them is nothing, but a attempt to distract people from their own incompetence and failures up on the hill. Kind of like "don't look here... look over here, Redskins are bad, yeah let's focus on that".

 

[Lord Bills]

So native Americans are racist against.... native Americans?

Are maybe you actually believe that damn near 80% of the posters who post on this board are racist and ignorant bigots? If you actually believe that well.. smdh.


BTW, the poll results don't surprise me either. If only congress put this much effort into more pressing matters, maybe we wouldn't be up **** creek right now with a boat load of scandals popping up each week. This whole outrage by them is nothing, but a attempt to distract people from their own incompetence and failures up on the hill. Kind of like "don't look here... look over here, Redskins are bad, yeah let's focus on that".

aaand who is in control of congress?

the same kind of trying to pin every problem the government is having on obama. the same kind of people you defended that is destroying the state of texas with all the fracking and refusal to acknowledge climate change.

congrats.

 

[Dan B.]

The public isn't telling the Redskins what to do... the elected officials who were in bed with the league and helped them sell the local citizen on paying to build those stadiums, also profited off of the revenue and jobs those stadiums brought to their cities/states are. So unless there is a lot of incest going on in your metaphor it doesn't really fit.

On the grand scheme of things, average joe really doesn't give a crap either way. Hell polls show that native americans really don't give a crap.. who does give a damn though is the grandstanding politicians who'll use every opportunity to get their face in front of a camera and their name out in the media. Especially on issues like this. This didn't become a big ordeal until it was "politicized"

The Redskins weren't integrated until the issue became "politicized." Sometimes that's what it takes. The average joe really didn't give a crap that the team refused to hire black players into the 1960's. But the politicians did.

 

[Carr Bombed]

The Redskins weren't integrated until the issue became "politicized." Sometimes that's what it takes. The average joe really didn't give a crap that the team refused to hire black players into the 1960's. But the politicians did.

The people did.. Did you miss the entire civil rights movement (which wasn't started by politicians) or are you just trying to rewrite history here?

 

[Dan B.]

The people did.. Did you miss the entire American Indian movement (which wasn't started by politicians) or are you just trying to rewrite history here?

fify

 

[Carr Bombed]

aaand who is in control of congress?

the same kind of trying to pin every problem the government is having on obama. the same kind of people you defended that is destroying the state of texas with all the fracking and refusal to acknowledge climate change.

congrats.

Not the people, seeing how as soon as these buffoons are elected they do whatever the hell they want to do. If you really think "the people" are in control of congress then you need to wake up.

Also before you throw bull**** accusations like that around.. please tell us where people are trying to pin every problem the government is having on Obama.. You confuse people blaming the man for everything wrong with simply expecting the man at the top to take control and do something about it.. there's a difference.

And please tells us how Texas is being destroyed while you're at it.. hold on, let me get my popcorn, I have to hear this.

 

[Dan B.]

Despite your best efforts to get me to follow you chasing after windmills, I'm not going to try to defend politicians. That's not the point. It's a shiny bauble -- a distraction. I'll accept your POV for argument's sake. All of DC is corrupt and does nothing to represent the people that elect them.

The NFL still chooses to accept benefits from them. When you lie down with dogs you get fleas.

 

[Carr Bombed]

fify

I come from Native American (not American Indian) descent.. I've made that known before on this board.. I could give a crap less what a damn football team calls itself. My skin isn't that thin.

So can many other Native Americans.. hence why the polls show the majority of Native Americans could care less. Please stop confusing a "movement" with political grandstanding that is trying to gain political points off the exploitation ofF the past "hardships" of Native Americans by pretending that they "care" and that is their only motive. :mariopalm: Frankly their actions are becoming more insulting.

 

[Dan B.]

I come from Native American (not American Indian) descent.. I've made that known before on this board.. I could give a crap less what a damn football team calls itself. My skin isn't that thin.

So can many other Native Americans.. hence why the polls show the majority of Native Americans could care less. Please stop confusing a "movement" with political grandstanding that is trying to gain political points off the exploitation of the past "hardships" of Native Americans by pretending that they "care" and that is their only motive. :mariopalm: Frankly their actions are becoming more insulting.

You ever consider that's because over half the people actually living on an Indian Reservation don't have phone service?

Modern telecommunications are also extremely lacking. More than half of households on reservations do not have phone service, compared with five percent nationally, and nine percent among nonmetropolitan areas.

 

[Carr Bombed]

You ever consider that's because over half the people actually living on an Indian Reservation don't have phone service?

And only 1/3 of the people lives on those reservations..and near a half of that 1/3 can express their opinion, so a vast majority has the ability to participate in the poll.

But I'm glad you brought this up.. Maybe if congress truly cared and actualy gave a damn about the plight of the Native Americans they would tackle the real issues facing them, but they won't.
the real issues isn't as provocative and doesn't garnish near the headlines as going after a member of a multibillion dollar enterprise over what their team name is does it? It's flat out patronizing.

 

[Dan B.]

And only 1/3 lives on those reservations..and near a half of that 1/3 can express their opinion, so a vast majority has the ability to participate in the poll.

But I'm glad you brought this up.. Maybe if congress truly cared about the plight of the Native Americans they would tackle the real issues facing them, but that isn't as provocative and doesn't garnish near the headlines as going after a member of a multibillion dollar enterprise over what their team name is does it? It's flat out patronizing.

Until those dastardly Senators politicized the issue, the multibillion dollar Redskins never helped those tribes tackle the real issues facing them either.

I honestly don't know what your point is. Is it that the Redskins name shouldn't be changed because Congress is in bed with the NFL? The two have nothing to do with each other.

Is it that most people don't care about the issue, so nothing should be done about it? Most people don't care about Benghazi either. Shoukl we ignore that?

I think there is a clear and obvious reason why many find the name "Redskins" offensive. It doesn't matter if it's the majority or not. I don't think a team would be called that today. With so many reasons to change the name, if the only reason you have to hold on to a name is "because the name wasn't offensive in 1937" I don't think you have much of a reason.

 

[Carr Bombed]

Until those dastardly Senators politicized the issue, the multibillion dollar Redskins never helped those tribes tackle the real issues facing them either.

Yeah, which is why it seems more like extortion rather than true charity.. So how should I feel about that? It's not Daniel Snyder's job to solve the problem.

I honestly don't know what your point is. Is it that the Redskins name shouldn't be changed because Congress is in bed with the NFL? The two have nothing to do with each other.

No, my point is.. it wasn't even a main issue until Congress made it one and the timing that they chose to do so seems self serving. The only reason why I brought up how both were bed partners was because you acted like only one party was benefiting from the relationship.

Is it that most people don't care about the issue, so nothing should be done about it? Most people don't care about Benghazi either. Shoukl we ignore that?

Not true at all.. Plenty of people care about Benghazi.. it's just hard to keep focus on a issue when you're saturated by other scandals which what seems to be happening on a monthly basis now.

Here's a article from the New Yorker, just put out a couple of weeks ago..

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2014/05/poll-millions-of-americans-who-need-jobs-want-congress-to-get-to-bottom-of-this-benghazi-thing-first.html

That line of thinking would be like saying a year from now, people don't care about the VA scandal. Fast and Furious, Benghazi, IRS, Obama Care, and now the VA scandal.. people cared. There was simply nothing done about it. In those cases unlike this one.. Congress didn't care to get to the bottom of it or get real answers. (we'll see how this VA scandal goes), but for some reason they'll now create this issue to care about. Why is that?

I think there is a clear and obvious reason why many find the name "Redskins" offensive. It doesn't matter if it's the majority or not. I don't think a team would be called that today. With so many reasons to change the name, if the only reason you have to hold on to a name is "because the name wasn't offensive in 1937" I don't think you have much of a reason.

So we should just forget the entire past, because the small minority is throwing a fit? Yes I agree with you that a team would never be called that today, but I disagree with you that we should right every wrong simply because it offends the small minority. That is what is wrong with progressives. If they had it their way the entire world would be wrapped with bubble wrap and everybody would be eating their food with sporks with everybody having the right to "not be offended". (that's a world I don't want to live in).

If the NFL wants to keep that the name of one of their teams and look ignorant to others, then so be it.. they should be free to do so.. without being forced to change by dumbass politicians. Standing up for free speech and liberties isn't just standing up for the rights of those you agree with, but standing up for the same liberties of all people.. even those you disagree with.

Let the paying customer decide and force the name change. If people were so offended, they would cancel their season tickets and stop buying merchandise, players would refuse to play for them.. the majority of Native Americans would be asking for a change, and then the Redskins would have to change their name.. it's that simple. It isn't something that should be decided upon and ordered down by members of congress.