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Sharper Released

infantrycak said:
You do know what the date is today, right?

I heard 610 say it, too. I don't think it was an April Fool's joke.
 
still dont buy it, houstontexans.com making an article before ive heard it anywhere else....
What is the logic in releasing him before the draft..
 
TigerBait said:
still dont buy it, houstontexans.com making an article before ive heard it anywhere else....
What is the logic in releasing him before the draft..

There is none, that's the problem with releasing him...Why would HoustonTexans.Com publish a fake article? I mean seriously..
 
TigerBait said:
What is the logic in releasing him before the draft..

Now the crying begins.

Sharper evidently did not want to re-negotiate his contract, making him untradable, and unwanted by any other team.
 
Marcus said:
I heard 610 say it, too. I don't think it was an April Fool's joke.

They also did a commercial for a movie about a year in the life of Yao Ming. But, I doubt the Texans would joke around on their site.

If this isn't a joke, the Texans have a plan for that money somewhere. Even moving up in the draft, they have plenty of money to sign all the rookies without releasing Sharper so unless they need money to make a move on taking on a vet contract this doesn't make sense IMO. Then again, they could use the room to restructure other contracts to put more hit this year and free up room in the future.
 
Apparently he had zero trade value. He is going to negotiate his own new deal and forget about the 6mil + per.
 
infantrycak said:
They also did a commercial for a movie about a year in the life of Yao Ming. But, I doubt the Texans would joke around on their site.

I've been hearing that commercial about a Yao Ming movie for about a week now. Who knows. Maybe they changed it to April Fool's Week. :heh:
 
I seriously doubt he would want to come back. I am sure one of the teams switching from the 4-3 to the 3-4 this season will snag him anyway.
 
I'm willing to bet a 6-pack that Casserly knew Sharper had no trade value right from the getgo. The "announcement" that Sharper was being given permission to seek a trade, in hindsight, reflected that . . it was a smokescreen. If Sharper indeed had any trade value, that value would have decreased as soon as the announcement was made, so it wouldn't have made sense for Casserly to do that if he really was seeking a trade for Sharper. The fact that he did announce it, in my view, was a PR move to soften the blow for his eventual outright release.
 
SheTexan said:
Can the Texans resign him?
I think that is what led to this release. I honestly think they tried to sign him to a value they both agreed on, but sadly couldn't. Apparently, he wants much more money than the Texans feel he is worth at this age and I don't think they wanted him there as a lame duck in his final season knowing he wasn't going to be here in the future. If we could not work out a deal up front I would put our chances of signing him again at slim to none.
 
this upsets me, Jamie was a classy player and the solid backbone for this defense, and a great presence for the team. I say we could have packaged him in a draft day deal to move up for DJ. Now we might be left without Sharper or DJ. This would leave our linebackers being Peek,Greenwood,Wong,Babin and a backup in Dashan Polk.
 
It will all be ok. Make no mistake about it, a starting LB corp of Peek, Greenwood, Wong, and Babin will make some noise. Depth needs to be added of course but I would not be upset going into 2005 with that group. We'll be quicker and younger.

Also if the Texans decide that they want to go get DJ they will. That's one thing I think we've all learned about Charlie Casserly on draft day. If there's somebody there who the Texans have got to get then Charlie ain't shy about doing whatever it takes to get them. We let Sharper and Foreman go, saved some cap money, and haven't spent big in free agency really. I would not be shocked to see the Texans trade up in the draft to get someone they wanted. DJ, one of the running backs, or who knows, maybe another WR.

This is going to be a fun draft to watch I suspect.
 
If this Sharper report is accurate, it makes it almost certain Wong goes to
ILB. It also increases the probability that they take an ILB on Day 1 of the Draft, though I really don't think they will go after DJ. Are they really interested in paying OP type compensation for DJ - that's this years and
next years #1 ? I don't think they value him that highly.
 
We wouldn't give up 2 number 1 picks to move up. This is such a weak draft class it just isn't going to happen. Trade values are all relative to the draft class. If you want to think outside the box, Thomas Davis is nearly the perfect candidate to be an inside linebacker in our scheme if we cannot find a way to land DJ.
 
Sad to see us not get anything for him...win some you lose some...

If we can't fix the LB issue this year through the draft, then there is always next year. There should be some real solid guys comming out next year that would work quite nicely inside for the 3-4. Abdul Hodge, A.J. Hawk and Ahmad Brooks(I hope) to name a few.
 
I couldn't see them giving up a pair of 1's for DJ either. Not this year. I could maybe see them doing something along the lines of their Babin deal last year, not of course exactly like it since the circumstances are different but similar. That's only if they decide they must have him and admittedly that would be out of character for the Texans. There are options like you point out Vinny.

I think the Texans are standing pat in a number of areas that lots of people think we absolutely must make a move in. This is like that too. I don't see one single emergency need on our team. Man that feels good to say after the last three years.
 
nunusguy said:
If this Sharper report is accurate, it makes it almost certain Wong goes to ILB. It also increases the probability that they take an ILB on Day 1 of the Draft, though I really don't think they will go after DJ. Are they really interested in paying OP type compensation for DJ - that's this years and next years #1 ? I don't think they value him that highly.

I agree. In order to move up in the draft high enough to get DJ, it would cost us the #1 and #2 picks of next year's draft, not to mention #1 and #2 this year.

If you think that's hilarious, just look at what the Giants had to give the Chargers for Eli Manning, to move up just three spots. And look how everyone got a conniption with what Charley gave up for Babin.

Do you really, really want Casserly to trade up for DJ? :heh: Be careful what you wish for.
 
Sad to see him go today. I hope that he has a good career and wish him the best. I really enjoyed watching him and he was definitely one of my favorite players.

Now, we have a hole that needs filling. I don't think we'll be able to get D.J., but there are guys available in this year's draft and players on our roster already who might play well for us.
 
Wow. :thumbdown

We had better use the money to sign a strong F.A. or that was a very questionable move. I mean....they just released the guy most of us have complained for 2 years in a row "He should have made the Pro-bowl". A team of our youth can not afford to lose a leader like Jaime on D.
 
Marcus said:
I agree. In order to move up in the draft high enough to get DJ, it would cost us the #1 and #2 picks of next year's draft, not to mention #1 and #2 this year.

If you think that's hilarious, just look at what the Giants had to give the Chargers for Eli Manning, to move up just three spots. And look how everyone got a conniption with what Charley gave up for Babin.

Do you really, really want Casserly to trade up for DJ? :heh: Be careful what you wish for.
Draft classes and their relative worth drive trade values, not trade charts or the cost in draft years with high value picks at the top of the draft class. If we move up it will not cost nearly what it cost teams to move last season.
 
I really don't believe that a player of sharper's caliber has zero trade value. We should have gotten something for him. I would of took anything besides just letting him walk. We had him under contract through next year and could of always just brought him back. The only thing that I can think of is the relationship between him and our org. must of really soured. Something must of happened in the locker room or during this offseason that they aren't telling us about. This really disappoints me, because with all the new teams going to the 3-4 I thought we could of least got a 3rd round pick. I was really looking forward to having 3 3rd round picks.
 
Marcus said:
I'm willing to bet a 6-pack that Casserly knew Sharper had no trade value right from the getgo. The "announcement" that Sharper was being given permission to seek a trade, in hindsight, reflected that . . it was a smokescreen. If Sharper indeed had any trade value, that value would have decreased as soon as the announcement was made, so it wouldn't have made sense for Casserly to do that if he really was seeking a trade for Sharper. The fact that he did announce it, in my view, was a PR move to soften the blow for his eventual outright release.

maybe he didnt have any trade value, but that doesnt mean he has no value. IF (and a big if) the browns were to sign him that might change the way they approach the draft and could possibly pass on DJ. thats one heck of a gamble though.

i thought this would be coming soon, but its still going to take time to get used to not seeing sharper on the field. solid player...i wish him the best elsewhere
 
Sco-tai said:
A team of our youth can not afford to lose a leader like Jaime on D.

Wasn't Sharper the guy who was crying, "Who's going to lead us to the promised land" after a loss last season?

Seems like a great leader to me...Jamie was a few things, but a leader never seemed to be one of them...
 
I would hate to see us trade up in this years draft, because it is very questionable at the top of the draft. I think we should stay where we are or possibly even try to trade down a couple of spots. I also believe as a team we are at crossroads- on the brink of becoming a great team, but still fragile enough to fall apart, so I believe as a franchise this is our most important draft to date. We could be lookin back on this draft as the one that put us over the top or the one that broke us.
 
Carr Bomb said:
This really disappoints me, because with all the new teams going to the 3-4 I thought we could of least got a 3rd round pick. I was really looking forward to having 3 3rd round picks.

The handwriting was on the wall. They basically told Foreman and Sharper that they would be traded or cut. Sharper really wasn't tradeable because he has a large cap figure with a one-year contract. What incentive does he have to renegotiate a contract for a trade when he knows he can be cut and pick his team? He became a lame-duck player. I think they kept him longer than Foreman strictly as a PR move.

Those of you that had Sharper thrown in as a key trade on draft day were fooling yourselves.
 
Sharper was a cap move only. Both management and his teammates liked him. He was a smart, classy player. He's just not as dominating as his tackle numbers appeared. The middle linebacker in the 3-4 is going to get a boatload of tackles. He didn't put fear into anyone he had to cover. Running backs weren't concerned about the severity of his hits. That said, he did his job and did it well... just not millions and millions of dollars well.
 
Derrick Johnson is worth trading up for. Not many players I would say that about this year, but he is very possibly the best linebacker since Arrington came out of Penn State 4 years ago.
 
Vinny said:
We wouldn't give up 2 number 1 picks to move up. This is such a weak draft class it just isn't going to happen. Trade values are all relative to the draft class. If you want to think outside the box, Thomas Davis is nearly the perfect candidate to be an inside linebacker in our scheme if we cannot find a way to land DJ.

I've been thinking the same thing.
 
TheOgre said:
The handwriting was on the wall. They basically told Foreman and Sharper that they would be traded or cut. Sharper really wasn't tradeable because he has a large cap figure with a one-year contract. What incentive does he have to renegotiate a contract for a trade when he knows he can be cut and pick his team? He became a lame-duck player. I think they kept him longer than Foreman strictly as a PR move.

Those of you that had Sharper thrown in as a key trade on draft day were fooling yourselves.

Exactly! Hate to see him depart, but as an expansion pick his only cost to us was his contract. Easy come, easy go. Good luck Jamie.
 
texansfan88 said:
Derrick Johnson is worth trading up for. Not many players I would say that about this year, but he is very possibly the best linebacker since Arrington came out of Penn State 4 years ago.

Johnson has become this year's taylor. All I heard last year was how great S. Taylor was and how we should trade up to get him, but we stayed exactly where we were and drafted Dunta Robinson, now how many people on this board would trade D. Rob for Taylor. I have no doubt that Johnson is going to be a fine linebacker and if we falls to us great, but I would hate to see us trade up for him when there is going to be excellent linebackers and excellent defensive players at our spot. Also to get johnson we are probably going to have to trade up to tenn.'s spot and I'm not willing to hand them over multiple picks again.
 
MAD, frustrated, disappointed, pissed, ashamed, let down. And really ticked off.

Not much more to say. Thanks Jamie for your hard work, I APPRECIATED YOU!!!
:thumbdown to the front office. I am not happy with y'all at this point, whatsoever. :thumbdown

I will stop here, I am soooooooo ticked off.
 
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