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i personally would of liked to of gotten something for him, a draft pick wouldnt of hurt, just letting him go with nothing t show for it just seems dumb to me !
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Why is it that if a female is a fan of a football player, that is must be some sort of crush? It can't be from admiration of his achievements? His steadfast dedication to the team? Is this 2005 AD or BC?Vinny said:aj's voice of the fan piece on Sharper.
That was well reasoned. No way the Texans give up two firsts. Casserly isn't a fan of raiding next year's draft for this year's booty. The cost to get above 4 is too much. As a number of posters have pointed out, if the Texans trade up it will likely be 6, 8, 9 or 10. That way, if they trade up, they can at least get 2 guys on day one, hopefully 3. I don't see the Vikes moving below 7. That is the Moss pick. They have to make that one count.Vinny said:aj's voice of the fan piece on Sharper.
Sounds like you're a member of the local following, I know I am. I was reallySassyTexan said:His following in Houston will stay strong.
I think that Sharper being released is just freeing up cap room for a major move. Which is why I think the Texans are going to go for Derrick Johnson in the draft. No one in the top 5 is going to take an OLB, and 5-10 only Arizona would be the most likely to draft him. But there major need is at running back which means they would probably take Cadillac or Cedric. Dallas wouldn't take him and that leaves San Diego whose more likely looking for a wide reciever with their first pick. Which gives the Texans DJ at 13. If not I'd look for them to trade up with Tennessee, Washington, or Detroit and pick him up. Which would give you at LB next year OLB Wong/Babin ILB Johnson/Greenwood.Bottle-O-Bud said:We were weak against running teams. Now we are even more weaker. Imagining wong in there gives me the shivers.
Bellthebest said:if denver could pick em up...that wuld be great..but not gunna happen![]()
SESupergenius said:This is the 3rd year in a row that our defense is taking a drastic overhual, I strongly doubt it will be drastically better next year so people need to keep that in mind.
-- Sharper May Visit Seahawks --
Mon Apr 4, 2005 --from FFMastermind.com
The Seattle Times reports the Seahawks want their shot at courting free-agent LB Jamie Sharper, and they just might get it soon. Sharper is considering a visit to team headquarters this week. As of yesterday, the Seahawks were one of eight teams to have expressed interest in signing the 30-year-old linebacker cut Friday by the Houston Texans for salary-cap purposes. Tony Agnone, Sharper's agent, spoke with Mike Reinfeldt, the Seahawks' vice president of football administration, by phone yesterday. Agnone said the Seahawks would like Sharper to meet with coaches and front-office staff and that "he'll probably end up doing it. He feels he owes it to himself."
FatBoyTim said:the texans are making a huge gamble on D. I think they are finally starting to remedy previous mistakes. I think they better draft a whole lot better in the next few yrs.
SESupergenius said:Don't those 8 other teams know that he's all washed up at the old of 30?
Apparently the Dolphins didn't think Greenwood was worth $5 million a year either. Not too sure what the asking price was for Sharper, but apparently those 8 teams knew that Sharper was going to get cut since he was already in the doghouse. No need to trade when you can get him for free. Just good business sense, call me crazy.dalemurphy said:Apparently, all 8 knew he wasn't worth $5 million a year. Which is why none of them were willing to trade for him.
SESupergenius said:Apparently the Dolphins didn't think Greenwood was worth $5 million a year either. Not too sure what the asking price was for Sharper, but apparently those 8 teams knew that Sharper was going to get cut since he was already in the doghouse. No need to trade when you can get him for free. Just good business sense, call me crazy.![]()
SESupergenius said:The reason he is no here is because he is in the doghouse, not because of the $6 million price tag in the last year of his contract. Most contracts are backloaded so of course he is going to have this huge salary figure in the last year. Do you think that Greenwood is going to be worth the $6,300,000 price tag in HIS last year????? Oh, and go ahead a tack on Sharpers $1.375 million cost to our salary cap to Greenwoods salary because we let him go before the June 1. Sure it looks like we are saving money by releasing Sharper, but it's also leaving us with dead money, of which needs to accounted for. The Texans let it be known that he could seek a trade because they didn't want him back, if they did they could have signed him to a new contract. It's all smoke and mirrors to say they are upgrading the defense by bringing in Greenwood to replace Sharper, a guy like that just doesn't fall off in value like that that over 4 months.
SESupergenius said:The Texans let it be known that he could seek a trade because they didn't want him back, if they did they could have signed him to a new contract.
That is strictly your opinion and it is my opinion that Sharper is the better player of the two. I wouldn't classify Greenwood as a HUGE upgrade over Sharper. And you really can't throw age into too much because Sharper is 32, not 39. Although Mcginnest is chucking along well at his old age of 35. Sharper had his best season the previous year and all of the sudden he's old?? Na, that doesn't fly.dalemurphy said:Greenwood is a huge upgrade over a 32 year old veteran that would have to be overpaid to stay here next season.
Why look at only 3 years?? If he's any good he'll be here for the extent of his contract. And why didn't the Texans let go of Sharper last year, that could have saved us a ton of money! And if you want to talk about money then we should have cut him after June 1 to spread out the cap hit over 2 seasons, enabling us to pursue a Quality FA.dalemurphy said:Regarding backloading contracts, that is my point. A five year contract usually isn't really that. When looking at the value of Greenwood's contract, look at the first three years and the signing bonus proration- it's a very friendly contract that gives the Texans flexibility and a LB who will be here through the prime years of his career.
Again, because teams knew that Sharper was in the doghouse and no agreement was going to get reached. No reason to give up a draft pick if you can wait until the Texans release him. He's not on the same level as a super star, but then again either is Greenwood. But there is a reason 8 teams are looking at him right as he's released.Again, if he is worth the salary of his 05 contract, why was no team in the NFL willing to secure him for a 6th round or even 7th round pick?
I am curious too, but we know that Greenwood was overpaid.infantrycak said:. I am very curious to see what other teams are willing to pay him.
dalemurphy said:SES, you are very bull-headed. As I've said, the reason a team would trade for Sharper is to secure him. If that wanted him, they could get him with certainly through a trade. Now, if they want him, they have to bid with other teams and are left waiting on Sharper's decision as to where he wants to play.
Also, my point about Greenwood is that he's not overpaid. If he doesn't turn out to be a high quality LB, he will have been paid the equivalent of a borderline starter for three seasons and then can be dumped for a small cap hit after that. If he is good, then the team can choose to pay the balooned amount of $6 million the final two seasons.
Finally, if the Texans have cap room this season and they are on a five year plan, why wouldn't they absorb the whole cap hit this year so that they are free and clear of Sharper's cap hit next season- that way they can go after a bigger free agent.
SESupergenius said:I am curious too, but we know that Greenwood was overpaid.
That doesn't work either, they are ALL overpaid.infantrycak said:-when was the last time you heard of a FA acquisition where everyone went oohhhh he got underpaid?
TheOgre said:IMO we did overpay for Greenwood.
Jamie Sharper, the former Houston Texans linebacker whose services are being sought by at least eight teams, is scheduled to visit with the Seahawks in Kirkland tomorrow.
Sharper, released by Houston last week for salary-cap purposes, is still believed a longshot to sign with the Seahawks. That is in large part because of his unfamiliarity with the Seattle front office and coaching staff, but Sharper will meet many of those people tomorrow.
He indicated last weekend that he felt he should see what was out there in free agency, hence the decision to visit the Seahawks.
Sharper and his agent would like to reach a decision as to where the 30-year-old will sign before the end of the week. Sharper has started 127 of the past 128 games and has not missed a regular-season game in eight seasons with the Baltimore Ravens and Houston. He has 100 or more tackles in four consecutive seasons.
The Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars and Cincinnati Bengals are among the other interested teams.
The Seahawks would likely have to free up salary-cap space by restructuring contracts in order to sign Sharper.