CloakNNNdagger
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Speak for yourself.
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Sexual Assault Suits Against Watson
- Thread starter Texansballer74
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Exactly
Sounds like Cleveland may have instigated this feature to entice Watson
badboy
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For me this current hearing by Robinson is not about the women or if evidence supports if DW did what they accused him of. The 2 criminal grand juries, the settlements and remaining law suits resolved or will resolve that. This hearing is only about him violating CBA conduct code. It is NOT about other players or any owner..that can be addressed separately.
Of course the punishment meeted out if any can have it's cause amplified by other things in addition to his violation of conduct code. Whether it should is debatable but that will not impact said punishment.
Carr Bombed
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Well gee I guess we all need to volunteer at a shelter so you won't be confused.. what's confusing me is your post. This is a story that broke about a year and a half ago. We've already processed the disgusting details and outrage.. many of us are now just waiting for the conclusion to this horrid chapter.
Kinda ironic you’re somehow making a post about these women about yourself. You can’t speak for how people empathize.
CloakNNNdagger
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Everyone is expecting a Friday news "dump" for the announcement of the Watson decision. I wouldn't be surprised for it to occur near the beginning of a week.
Htown Legend
Noob
Hoping this is the week. I think that if the suspension is more in line with what you and corrosion have been hearing- the NFL would want that announcement to be in the beginning of the week. To show that they won’t tolerate this type of behavior and take a stand against any sexual misconduct towards women
leebigeztx
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NFL isn't the real world
leebigeztx
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Patriots did the same thing with deflatgate correct? We could say deflategate and accusations of sexual misconduct are different,but the patriots restructured Brady contract to help him lose the least amount of money possible during his suspension.
Rich athletes getting away with crimes. Yeah it is. That’s any sports league and anybody with money.
OptimisticTexan
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…..to politicians and celebrities.
OJ Simpson
Ray Lewis
Ray Rice
Ben Roethlisberger
Kobe Bryant (NBA)
Darrell Russell
Leonard Little
Kareem Hunt
Donte’ Stallworth
Lawrence Taylor
Ron Artest (NBA)
Pac-Man Jones
Michael Irvin
Dennis Rodman (NBA)
Karl Malone (NBA)
Tyreek Hill
Greg Hardy
Ezekiel Elliot
Jamies Winston
Antonio Brown
Terrell Suggs
Brandon Marshall
Chad Johnson
Jason Kidd (NBA)
Floyd Mayweather (Boxing)
Jim Brown
just to name few. Do some research next time. Because SURELY you didn’t all of a sudden forget OJ and Roethlisberger.
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wildroot
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A few more;
Rae Carruth
Aaron Hernandez
Kellen Winslow Jr.
Art Schlichter
Dave Meggit
Keith Wright
Anthony Smith
Lawrence Phillips...
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You completely missed the point. He said it doesn’t happen to athletes. That they don’t get away with crimes. That was incorrect. Please go back and look at the original post.
CloakNNNdagger
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Deshaun Watson Decision May Not End Uncertainty In Cleveland
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Craig Fountainabout 2 hours ago0Votes
The Cleveland Browns and their fans are surely ready for a decision on whether or not Deshaun Watson will be disciplined by the NFL for sexual misconduct allegations. While a decision may give the Browns clarity in the short term, we could find ourselves awaiting the same decisions this time next year.
“USA Today’s @eschrotenboer just told @afternoon923FAN that the remaining four cases and the inevitability of embarrassing discovery from trial(s) would likely land us back in this same scenario after the season. That would be a disaster scenario for the Browns and their fans” – Anthony Lima via
USA Today’s Brent Schrotenboer presents an interesting scenario. Regardless of whether or not Deshaun Watson is suspended or spared any disciplinary action, we could be speculating once again about his availability during the following offseason.
Surely, this is being considered by the NFL as it braces for an eagerly awaited ruling from former U.S. District Court Judge Sue Robinson, the independent arbitrator deciding Watson’s fate. The uncertainty derives from a lack of resolution to the four remaining civil suits Watson is facing.
Schrotenboer suspects that if Watson is not playing it could expedite the legal process of the remaining cases due to his availability. If he does play, when new information comes to light, it will once again dominate the news cycle and expose Watson to scrutiny and potential discipline once again.
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Craig Fountainabout 2 hours ago0VotesThe Cleveland Browns and their fans are surely ready for a decision on whether or not Deshaun Watson will be disciplined by the NFL for sexual misconduct allegations. While a decision may give the Browns clarity in the short term, we could find ourselves awaiting the same decisions this time next year.
“USA Today’s @eschrotenboer just told @afternoon923FAN that the remaining four cases and the inevitability of embarrassing discovery from trial(s) would likely land us back in this same scenario after the season. That would be a disaster scenario for the Browns and their fans” – Anthony Lima via
USA Today’s Brent Schrotenboer presents an interesting scenario. Regardless of whether or not Deshaun Watson is suspended or spared any disciplinary action, we could be speculating once again about his availability during the following offseason.
Surely, this is being considered by the NFL as it braces for an eagerly awaited ruling from former U.S. District Court Judge Sue Robinson, the independent arbitrator deciding Watson’s fate. The uncertainty derives from a lack of resolution to the four remaining civil suits Watson is facing.
Schrotenboer suspects that if Watson is not playing it could expedite the legal process of the remaining cases due to his availability. If he does play, when new information comes to light, it will once again dominate the news cycle and expose Watson to scrutiny and potential discipline once again.
badboy
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Since when does an individual's employment have anything to do with when they will go to trial on claims such as these? Also of all the 66 women alleged by Sports Illustrated do any remaining appear to be filing next 12 or so months?Deshaun Watson Decision May Not End Uncertainty In Cleveland
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The Cleveland Browns and their fans are surely ready for a decision on whether or not Deshaun Watson will be disciplined by the NFL for sexual misconduct allegations. While a decision may give the Browns clarity in the short term, we could find ourselves awaiting the same decisions this time next year.
“USA Today’s @eschrotenboer just told @afternoon923FAN that the remaining four cases and the inevitability of embarrassing discovery from trial(s) would likely land us back in this same scenario after the season. That would be a disaster scenario for the Browns and their fans” – Anthony Lima via
USA Today’s Brent Schrotenboer presents an interesting scenario. Regardless of whether or not Deshaun Watson is suspended or spared any disciplinary action, we could be speculating once again about his availability during the following offseason.
Surely, this is being considered by the NFL as it braces for an eagerly awaited ruling from former U.S. District Court Judge Sue Robinson, the independent arbitrator deciding Watson’s fate. The uncertainty derives from a lack of resolution to the four remaining civil suits Watson is facing.
Schrotenboer suspects that if Watson is not playing it could expedite the legal process of the remaining cases due to his availability. If he does play, when new information comes to light, it will once again dominate the news cycle and expose Watson to scrutiny and potential discipline once again.
I don't see how Robinson can suggest one season suspension without some safety net for NFL such as Watson applying for re-instatement.
As conduct code is issue, there should be no rush by Buzbee on remaining 4 cases or by attorneys on any future cases. Dragging them out would cause Goodell to wring his hands.
No it's not. It appears that the NFL is more than willing to let a sexual predator be the face of one of their franchises.
You left off Rae Carruth and the I-5 killer. I can't remember his name.
Since when does an individual's employment have anything to do with when they will go to trial on claims such as these? Also of all the 66 women alleged by Sports Illustrated do any remaining appear to be filing next 12 or so months?
I don't see how Robinson can suggest one season suspension without some safety net for NFL such as Watson applying for re-instatement.
As conduct code is issue, there should be no rush by Buzbee on remaining 4 cases or by attorneys on any future cases. Dragging them out would cause Goodell to wring his hands.
There are at least 6 cases still out there .... and that number could rise between now and X.
How do you come to that conclusion when the league is asking for an "indefinite suspension".
To me that doesn't sound like they want him representing a damn thing.
The McNair's didn't want him representing their team and went so far as to pay him $10m to go away - We Don't Want You.
Let's see how this turns out. Robinson will rule to suspend Derrick say 8 games to a full yr. Do you think God'ell will come back and say, nope we're giving you an indefinite suspension? I don't and I hope I'm wrong.
Agreed about the McNair's, I wonder how many other owners think this way?
The league is pissed. Don’t count anything out.
CloakNNNdagger
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Brent Schrotenboer in The Fan interview admits that information favorable to Watson that he presented was essentially obtained from Rusty Hardin.Deshaun Watson Decision May Not End Uncertainty In Cleveland
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The Cleveland Browns and their fans are surely ready for a decision on whether or not Deshaun Watson will be disciplined by the NFL for sexual misconduct allegations. While a decision may give the Browns clarity in the short term, we could find ourselves awaiting the same decisions this time next year.
“USA Today’s @eschrotenboer just told @afternoon923FAN that the remaining four cases and the inevitability of embarrassing discovery from trial(s) would likely land us back in this same scenario after the season. That would be a disaster scenario for the Browns and their fans” – Anthony Lima via
USA Today’s Brent Schrotenboer presents an interesting scenario. Regardless of whether or not Deshaun Watson is suspended or spared any disciplinary action, we could be speculating once again about his availability during the following offseason.
Surely, this is being considered by the NFL as it braces for an eagerly awaited ruling from former U.S. District Court Judge Sue Robinson, the independent arbitrator deciding Watson’s fate. The uncertainty derives from a lack of resolution to the four remaining civil suits Watson is facing.
Schrotenboer suspects that if Watson is not playing it could expedite the legal process of the remaining cases due to his availability. If he does play, when new information comes to light, it will once again dominate the news cycle and expose Watson to scrutiny and potential discipline once again.
CloakNNNdagger
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Randall Woodfield, a low life taken by Dan Devine and the Packers in the 17th round in 1974........he was cut before the season even began.......never to play in the NFL.
CloakNNNdagger
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The statutes of limitations are running, and many if not most will have run out by March 2023............unless their case is of true sexual assault, which criminally runs 10 years from the date of violation and 5 years for civil prosecution.Since when does an individual's employment have anything to do with when they will go to trial on claims such as these? Also of all the 66 women alleged by Sports Illustrated do any remaining appear to be filing next 12 or so months?
TexansBull
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That makes sense to suspend him for the season. No more civil cases could come up related to his “alleged” activities in Houston.
CloakNNNdagger
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Unless they entail true sexual assault.
CloakNNNdagger
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Mary Kay Cabot getting her info from team Watson..........listen to 2:00 to 3:00.
TexansBull
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They say this to only to be able to say later that Watson getting suspended for more is something “no one expected” and that’s why Watson’s attorneys are contesting.
They are creating their narrative.
leebigeztx
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No, what I said is the nfl isn't the real world. It isn't, especially financially.
Rich athletes getting away with crimes. Yes it is, but feel free to not acknowledge it.
It’s also an example of rich people in general getting away with things most times.
GanadoUHCoog
Waterboy
When are we going to get a ruling already? How long goes that judge need?! Let’s ban him as many games as possible as soon as possible so the Browns can stink and give us a top 10 pick and we can move on.
Thorn
Dirty Old Man
Moneyed people have more rights than the poor simply because they can afford it. It's been that way for thousands of years. All kinds of political systems, including democracy, were theoretically supposed to fix that, but in reality nothing's changed since people left behind hunter-gathering and began to live in permanent settlements and started playing "follow the leader".
Complain about it all you want, it's not going to change. The "people with power" will see to it that nothing changes.
The more time he spends taking reps from Brissett the better imo. Sure to get us a higher pick. I'm sure there is a deadline when a decision has to be published, but let it ride
Carr Bombed
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CloakNNNdagger
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I'm thinking she's trying to cover all the bases of a no bill.
We have discussed this. But it doesn’t make sense. Policy states that not being charged is not enough to be clear of a violation. There is nothing for her to cover there. She is not determining criminality, criminal exposure. Watson going out into people’s homes during Covid for “massages” is enough for a violation.
Also consider this. Watson may have lied in his interviews with the NFL. Any such lies or discrepancies would be the presented to the judge. There are many factors into why this decision is taking so long.
And her memo would need to address multiple things in this https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2018 Policies/2018 Personal Conduct Policy.pdf
Right, I'm not even referring to that "no-bill" just using the language. I'm thinking she's covering all the basis in her logic of not finding a violation.
I mean, he didn't contract Covid, so you can reasonably assume he took the necessary precautions.
CloakNNNdagger
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That's like absolving someone who has had unprotected sex with 30-60 women, because neither developed a STD, taking for granted he wore a condom. There is something called luck.
Porky
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Just a total guess/speculation, but I'm thinking she's got her decision and it's basically written. However, she's now gone to both sides with that info and has asked them to negotiate a middle ground that won't cause either side to appeal. That's the delay we're in now. If they can come to an agreement, she finishes up the written report in a day or two, sends it out - and no appeal from either side.
Whether he did or didn’t, it was still irresponsible behavior which is a category in the personal conduct policy. He put others at risk because of his behavior whether he knew if he caught it or not. And that was another thing, he didn’t care. There was no vaccine at the time either, people were dying, and he was still willing to expose himself to the virus and in turn expose others. Also, Watson claimed he went to so many people due to Covid shutting down businesses, yet he still went to businesses and people’s homes. It was reckless and irresponsible just on that front alone.
CloakNNNdagger
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At least in one deposition, it came out that Watson brought prophylactics in his sports bag to his massage session.
I hope that deposition was presented to the judge.
Like I said, we have it in our mind that things are going to go one way. We've convinced ourselves, because the "evidence" is so frkn obvious.
But, nothing has gone the way we've thought it would to date. I don't see why this would be any different.
But, nothing has gone the way we've thought it would to date. I don't see why this would be any different.