Keep Texans Talk Google Ad Free!
Venmo Tip Jar | Paypal Tip Jar
Thanks for your support! 🍺😎👍
Setting free agency aside, what is our #1 draft need?
- Thread starter OKC_Texan
- Start date
Can you set free agency aside? What if the Texans find an OG and WR prior to the draft? Does that shift the priority to DT or nickel CB? The better teams fill needs during free agency period and take BPA in the draft. I don't know if the Texans are there quite yet, but that's the goal.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Even if Howard is the LG, Mason needs to go; primary need would be an offensive guard. Having said that, I don't necessarily think that that has to be a first round selection.
Free agency dream would be
Alaric Jackson left tackle 26 yoa
Will Fries RG
Trey Smith LG
Trade Tunsil for Bears two round 2 + round 3 + Amegadjie
Free agency dream would be
Alaric Jackson left tackle 26 yoa
Will Fries RG
Trey Smith LG
Trade Tunsil for Bears two round 2 + round 3 + Amegadjie
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
Yea, there are a plethora of possibilities. That is why I posed my question the way I did.
If they want to fix the offense
Tyler Booker OG Alabama
Savion Williams WR TCU
Terrance Ferguson TE Oregon Can block and has reliable hands. Big dude
My dream draft would be
Rd.1 Tyler Booker OG Alabama
Rd.2 Savion Williams WR TCU
Rd.3 Andrew Mubuka S Texas
Rd.4 Terrance Ferguson TE Oregon
Rd.5 Rocket Sanders RB South Carolina
Rd.6 Will Lee CB Texas A&M
Re-sign Dionte Johnson
I would spend FA money on Charvarius Ward (Love this guy as a player and a person, my heart goes out to him and he would be reunited with Ryans.)
Ryan Kelly C Colts
Last edited:
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
Tunsil is far and away our best lineman.
I hope we don't use a 1st on a guard.
I've seen some talk about getting the TE out of PSU with our #1. Others have said safety. Some have said receiver. What about a DT?
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
The other day you mentioned the TE from PSU. I kind of like that idea. I think he'd be a big upgrade.
He certainly would be.
Go checkout Warren and Ferguson in both blocking and receiving. Also checkout Savion Williams and tell me what you think of this guy. He's got DUDE written all over him and I bet after the combine he's one of the top 50 guys and wont be available when the Texans pick.
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
Looks good!
Savion Williams Wide Receiver TCU | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report
Rating: 84.4 Rank: #13 Forty: 4.48 Raw physical talent jumps off the tape with Williams, particularly in the vertical passing game where his combination of size and acceleration creates cons...
www.nfldraftbuzz.com
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
4.28 40? This kid looks amazing.
www.nfldraftbuzz.com
Isaiah Bond Wide Receiver Texas | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report
Rating: 85.1 Rank: #12 Forty: 4.39 Bond projects as an impact "Z" receiver who can transform an NFL passing attack with his explosive play ability and developing route craft. His elite speed...
www.nfldraftbuzz.com
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
Agree.
I would like to see a stud FA added to each side of the ball.
Then fill the rest of the holes with draftees.
Texansphan
Football connoisseur
A good DT would be nice but you can find value in the mid rounds and they are usually a bit cheaper as a FA option.
Any player - be they FAs or draftees, must love to play the game. No hangers on.
Porky
Hall of Fame
It’s hard to put FA or a possible trade aside. Not to mention who walks off this team. But in a vacuum, I will say DT. If Diantae Johnson leaves…WR would be right there with DT for me. And I’m thinking in terms of when you draft a guy. Like we need secondary guys badly…but more at a depth level.
I'm hoping they bring Dionte back and draft Savion in the 2nd rd. Take a weakness and make it a strength. Add a guy like Booker at 1-25 and hopefully be able to trade a 3rd for Mayer and the offense will look a lot better.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Before I answer you, can you explain why you think we need a defensive tackle in round one?
badboy
Hall of Fame
Do we need upgrades or do we need dire need positions filled?
badboy
Hall of Fame
Now you talking, he is not just a speedster. This young man gets great separation and was not used to the best of his skill set with Texas due to the other wide receivers. His hi ankle injury did impact his last season. I think he could be there at high round 2. Also, if we do trade down to pick up an extra round two, I would consider using on him. We definitely need to reload our wide receiver corps as we basically have Nico Collins and no one else. Johnson may not return if he has a great playoff.4.28 40? This kid looks amazing.
Isaiah Bond Wide Receiver Texas | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report
Rating: 85.1 Rank: #12 Forty: 4.39 Bond projects as an impact "Z" receiver who can transform an NFL passing attack with his explosive play ability and developing route craft. His elite speed...
I guarantee Caserio is aware of this young man.
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
Per PFF our top DT's rank 66, 66, & 75. However, I don't believe I said we have to use a first round pick.
This kid seems to have ligit speed as he' s got a sub 10.5 100 & sub 22.0 200, i,e: the kid can fly. So I dunno what kind of a football player is he ?4.28 40? This kid looks amazing.
Isaiah Bond Wide Receiver Texas | NFL Draft Profile & Scouting Report
Rating: 85.1 Rank: #12 Forty: 4.39 Bond projects as an impact "Z" receiver who can transform an NFL passing attack with his explosive play ability and developing route craft. His elite speed...
So I am definitely watching that game Friday night between Texas & Ohio State: Is that the best college game for the # of elite NFL prospects this weekend ?
PFF sucks, good thing games aren't decided by PFF stats.
If you look at the structure of the favorite teams for Superbowl, we have dire needs on the offensive line. This year, it's not just me saying it. If we scrimp on the OL, we're going to ruin CJ and fall farther down list of competitors !
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
My answer…
1. Cut Howard and Mason after June 1st.
2. Draft Greene (Georgia) and Carmona (Arkansas).
3. Continue development of Patterson, Scruggs, and Broeker.
4. Sign UFA’s OC-Kelly and LG-Risner to bridge the OL until their replacements are ready to go.
Opto, I understand the method to that madness .... I really do. But it's kind of .... you get what you pay for ! With the exception of Tunsil and possibly Blake Fisher, we don't have any other starters .... they do not have the talent to be starting NFL linemen .... IMHO.
badboy
Hall of Fame
You mentioned #1 with guard and TE then you connected safety and WR in that vein finally asking about DT without suggesting a lower pick. I just followed the rabbit droppings.
Rather than rankings, I would be more interested in how many points were allowed through our middle. Last time I checked a few games ago, it wasn't many. If Nick could get the trades that I have suggested, I would be excited to get Longhorns defensive tackle Alfred Collins at the top of round three.
badboy
Hall of Fame
I agree a thousand percent! I am pushing for free agency to redo 3/5 of our offensive line.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Cutting Howard and Mason post June 1st brings $24 million in cap savings. APY of ~18 per annum but first season of ~10-12 for Will Fries and Trey Smith guards.
Trading Tunsil to Chicago for example brings $14.2 m plus picks. That is Alaric Jackson and I have read that Rams may not be willing to pay him going rate to return.
Leaving ~14m team space.
Caserio made a bold statement going with Stroud and trading up to get Will Anderson. He is bold enough to make these moves also.
Edit
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
I think so but the Thursday night will also have its share of prospects.
badboy
Hall of Fame
Yes it should be a great game to watch. Also be aware that Isaiah Bond is recovering from a high ankle sprain and probably will not be anywhere close to 100%. I would not be shocked to see him come out of the game at some point.
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
Their PFF rankings are 39th and 45th. I don't think they are the problem on the OL.
badboy
Hall of Fame
It would be about bringing in healthier, younger players with similar if not better rankings.
Your planning on ditching the zbs?
I would be happy with Patterson, but I don't trust him to stay healthy.
My answers would be
Draft Booker and sign Kelly, Daniel Brunskill in FA.
Kelley and Risner both were awesome players when they came out .... I remember Brunskill impressing me with athleticism, and I think size or strength .... or both ! Oh yeah .... I liked the name .... gotta be tough !
I'm not sure Risner is a good fit if they keep running a straight up ZBS.
Kelly used to be great at everything. Now, I dont know if he's athletic enough to be really good in a ZBS. He's a leader though and I really value that a lot.
OKC_Texan
Waterboy
Yes. It gives fans a barometer. Who here obtains game films and grades every snap by every player? Answer - nobody. The casual fan (that's us) watches games and remembers the good and the bad of a player(s) but not the remaining 90% of a player's snaps. PFF acknowledges that they're grading system isn't full proof as they're not privvy to the calls from the OC/DC. Overall, PFF is an objective measure of a player's performance in individual games as well as over the course of a season.
How can they grade a player when they don't know what he's supposed to be doing?
I would agree with this if it was the same guys grading all the players across the league at a certain position. It's not, It's individuals grading certain games,
Example PFF has Fisher ranked pretty low and after watching every game of his I think he's done a good job for a rookie and his future is bright. Now he did give up a sack last game, so maybe PFF is harsh on their grading systems when a guy gives up a sack. Overall I think PFF is a part of the puzzle and not a be all end all. Trust what your lying eyes are trying to tell you, not some dude at PFF.
Exactly! It would be different if they had a Bruce Matthews (eg. lineman) grading linemen instead of a Chris Collingsworth grading linemen and linebackers and safeties etc.
X2 on Ward. He’s a stud..
OptimisticTexan
2024 / Rebuilding Block 4 After Playoffs / Texans
If this were to see fruition:
LT- Tunsil
LG- Risner
OC- Kelly
RG- Patterson
RT- Fisher
OT- Broeker
OT- Carmona (R)
OG/OC- Green, Kendrick
OG/OC- Scruggs
OG- Greene Jr (R)