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Selection 1.11: JJ Watt DE Wisconson

thunderkyss said:
What has Barwin done that Mark Anderson has not?

Anderson looks more fluid & explosive & if I were to guess, I would think he projects better at OLB than Barwin.

He had a hell of a rookie season, but dropped off around the same time that Bears defense mysteriously disappeared. Got a change of scenery in Houston & did a good job for a guy off the street.

He may very well be the biggest surprise of the season.

IMO, if we aren't getting Quin or Von Miller in the first, I think Anderson..... Barwin..... even Nading just as promising as anyone left.
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I agree pretty much everything you wrote here.
 
eriadoc said:
So I think I'm the only person on the planet who thinks that the team's #1 need is inside pass rush. I'm of the opinion that collapsing the pocket in the middle will help Mario's outside rush, allow the team to rush outside backers better, and even us the CB blitz now and again. So ignoring for a minute that you all disagree with me, does Watt give us any of that?

Also, I love that he was a TE. I mean, before long we can dominate the league's All-Former TE team.
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While I don't disagree that an inside rush is critical, it begs the question of who at #11 would fill that need. Nose Tackle...ILB...??? The only guy taken at those positions in the entire 1st round was Phil Taylor at 21 to the Browns.

Also Watt will help the inside rush when on passing downs when they slide into a 4-3 front.
 
Watt could play some nose in Wade's 3-4. He isn't much smaller than Ratliff. I kind of like the pick. The top guys at OLB have too many risks around them, and I think the best rush lb in this draft will end up being a small school guy. Prince is vastly over-rated. I'm cool if they tried to trade down and couldn't.
 
I really like the pick - especially what I´m reading about him. A physical freak on the D-Line that never takes a play off and always goes 100%, and who doesn`t only get to the QB, but also is great against the run and at swatting away balls. A player that can play DE or NT. And a player that gives us the flexibility to put Mario at OLB. And a player that is thought to have a nice, long career.

I don`t know how you can argue with that. True, he might not be that flashy player with great stats that people want to see - but he will make this team better - if everything we read here translate, he will make this team way better!

True, Fairley or Quinn would`ve been nice pickups as well, that filled a need. I guess the Texans never thought about Quinn due to his issues - and probably Wade didn`t see Fairley as a good fit.

Now, let`s see what we do with our second. I´d be happy with OLB (Houston?), NT (Pea?) or S (Moore?) here... I´d love to pick up a CB in FA - add Aso to the mix, and get a rush LB soon, and this team suddenly has a pretty impressive defense.
 
HoustonSportsFan09 said:
Q: How did you develop a knack for deflecting passes?


Watt: "That is something I learned over my career. I was never really taught about it. I figured it's one great way to limit the QB's throwing range is to put your hands up. It's something I have tried to work in over my career and it's worked great for me."
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This caught my eye. I remember repeatedly screaming as the D.

He figured something out in his short experience which was pointed out all last year...........that which none of the D coaches evidently ever learned, taught or emphasized. Our D, more times than not, were rushing with their hands in their pockets................an NFLtechnique solely attributed to the Texans' coaching staff.:wadepalm:
 
asleep said:
In two years, more fans will know who Fairley & Quinn are than Watt.

:mariopalm:
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Yeah, but that doesn`t have to be a good thing. Character issues on Fairley and a tendency to take plays off - Quinn has medical issues and missed most of the season due to taking illegal benefits. Both of those guys have major bust potential.

Watt seems to be a safe pick. I know, people hate "safe picks" after KJax - but safe is actually a good thing. And if a player is safe and has a huge upside with great atheleticism, you can be happy to have him on your team.
 
I like the fact that everyone is getting their panties in a twist. The last time the fans were gathering to burn down Reliant after getting surprised with drafting a DE it worked out for us.

I love this pick. We have always said build you foundation first. Watt will keep the OL off our LB's so they can do their job.

Now we go get ourselves a DT tonight.
 
JJ Watt was ranked TENTH best overall prospect in this years NFL draft by ourlads scouting service. Justin Houston & Akeem Ayers are still on the board they are rated #2 & #3 OLB's. CB wise its Aaron Williams & Brandon Harris. Those are the four names to keep an eye on in the 2nd rd.
 
I can't believe I am about to say this, but I love the pick! The Texans actually got one right - probably because this was Wade's pick. I don't like Wade that much as a HC, but you can't argue with his success as a DC and he knows how to pick players for his D. My guess is sans Wade, they would have taken Prince. Thank goodness they didn't make that mistake.

I admit I would have taken Quinn, but Watt was my 2nd choice. I did not want Prince or Fairley. I saw too many red flags, and they are boom or bust. And truth be told Quinn has medical red flags as well, and he is boom or bust too, but I just have a gut feeling that Quinn is going to be special. I was also thrilled when SF took Aldon Smith. I didn't like him at all.

Watt, while maybe the safest pick in the draft is also perhaps one of the better picks in the 1st round. Safe doesn't always mean bad. The guy has one of the highest floors in the draft imo. I would be absoutely shocked if he is not a 10+ yr impact starter. And with the busts this team has taken year after year on defense, you have to like that. Smithiak simply does not have a clue on how to draft defense. Wade's biggest contribution may be in getting some real talent in here on defense.

And whomever said this means the end of Mario is smoking crack. That is not going to happen. But I do think this means the likely end of Babyface Okoye. I don't know if he has any value, but if they could salvage a 4th or 5th rd pick in this draft for him, I would take it as they may be forced to just release him otherwise.
 
J.J. Watt was the most overlooked Defensive Lineman in the entire draft.

The Texans played this one close to the chest and came away with a 10 year starter that should notch a few pro bowls as well.

Watt is a model of consistency and work ethic, there probably wasn't another DL/DE in the draft more ready to contribute on the NFL level than him. Love the pick.

Now go get Rahim Moore/Quiton Carter and Akeem Ayers/Justin Houston and call it a day.
 
Texanmike said:
OK. I'm sure someone was having that conversation... but I don't remember that. I don't know that there is any position other than maybe kicker that you don't take with the number 1 pick. I mean a few years ago RBs were always taken in the first 3 or 4 picks... now they are less of a commodity... the game changes and people move up the boards. You don't take a DT with a top 3 pick either. If you are watching someone and they are saying "that's not good value" for that pick... Ingram was GREAT value at 11...

Mike
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Very good argument, the NFL does change over time. Hopefully we'll see something we've never seen out of 3/4 DEs in 2011 that will justify it.
 
asleep said:
In two years, more fans will know who Fairley & Quinn are than Watt.

:mariopalm:
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Quinn scarred me because:

A) He missed a whole year of football
B) He is only 20
C) He has a brain tumor

I know the tumor SHOULD be ok, but when you are a cursed team, ala us, you don't temp fate by drafting a player that could have his career over at any second.

I like Fairley a lot, but he isn't a 3-4 player. He is a 4-3 tackle.

All in all, I like the pick.
 
MojoX said:
While you search for video to verify the claim, use google and find media coverage second guessing the move when the Patriots made it. You'll find quotes from Belichick himself discussing the defensive changes.

3-4 ends don't fill the box score, but great ones make it possible for the LBs to swoop in and get the glory. You can't measure Seymour's impact on the Pats defense by his sack totals. But he was the core of that machine for quite a while.
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I understand that.

For the job you are asking them to do, you can normally get those guys much later in the draft. With Mario & Antonio, even Okoye rotating in.... I don't think any player can do that job that much better than those three guys to justify 1 pick outside of the top 10.

We just drafted Igor Olshansky with the #11 pick.

That's all I'm saying.
 
TexansSeminole said:
Obviously, judging by what I just said, I dont agree with this at all. We desperately need to upgrade the position through the draft IMO.
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I don't believe "new" equals upgrade. If we're talking 2nd round talent, Barwin is second round talent. Anderson is a former 1st rounder (I think).

2nd round prospects from this years draft isn't an instant upgrade IMO.
 
I think having Gabbert and Locker taking snaps as rookies in our division is going to help us a lot more than any player we could have drafted.
 
DonnyMost said:
J.J. Watt was the most overlooked Defensive Lineman in the entire draft.

The Texans played this one close to the chest and came away with a 10 year starter that should notch a few pro bowls as well.

Watt is a model of consistency and work ethic, there probably wasn't another DL/DE in the draft more ready to contribute on the NFL level than him. Love the pick.

Now go get Rahim Moore/Quiton Carter and Akeem Ayers/Justin Houston and call it a day.
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I'm happy about the pick. Aldom Smith was taken I wasn't sold on Prince so I'm good with Watt. But I was really hoping some team was in love with one the remaining qbs and had offered us a bounty of picks. But I'm stil happy with Watt, I think he'll be a good player.
 
I like this pick. We talked a lot about him over on the College board. This dude's not only a physical freak he's a damn energizer bunny on a gallon of 5 Hour Energy. I'm not just talking about games either. Whether it's lifting, running, practicing or whatever he's doing, it's 100%. Mario best take heed, otherwise, Watt will out hustle him and eventually out play him.

Now, let's all put something in our pipes and dream we get the next 2 right as well. Brooks Reed? Sam Acho? Ayers? Moch? Either way, I hope that's the position we're shootin for with our 2nd.

Again, good pick, Wade. Just keep Smith over in the corner and keep doing what you're doing

*edit* Those mentioning Houston, it's been mentioned he was one that failed his Combine drug test. Odds are the Texans won't touch him
 
DonnyMost said:
I think having Gabbert and Locker taking snaps as rookies in our division is going to help us a lot more than any player we could have drafted.
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Locker might start for the Tits but I dont see Gabbert starting unless Garrard is injured. He'll have the luxury of holding a clipboard behind a vet for a season or two.
 
ThaShark316 said:
Reed's gonna be gone before we can even sit down to watch the draft.

I want Williams or Moore.
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More rookie DB's starting? I'll pass. Other than Peterson, our starting secondary will not get better through this draft. We're going to have to throw a little dough around in FA and nab a vet or two. Will we draft a DB or two? Sure, we do practically every year. Good enough to help this secondary right away? Nope
 
HOU-TEX said:
More rookie DB's starting? I'll pass. Other than Peterson, our starting secondary will not get better through this draft. We're going to have to throw a little dough around in FA and nab a vet or two. Will we draft a DB or two? Sure, we do practically every year. Good enough to help this secondary right away? Nope
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I think A. Williams at FS would help, after that I agree. That does not mean I would be opposed to drafting a CB in the second round.
 
So, let`s look at different lineups possible right now:

Watt - Mitchell - Smith
Mario - Cushing - Ryans - Barwin
KJax - Quin - Nolan - Allen

Looks good on the front 7 IF Marion can play OLB. Now let`s look at something else:

Mario - Mitchell - Smith
Cushing - Sharpton - Ryans - Barwin
KJax - Quin - Nolan - Allen

With this we have Watt as the backup of Mario and Smith - keep everyone fresh all the time without losing any production. The question is, how good can Cushing be at OLB.

So, if we see Mario as an OLB, drafting secondary will become a priority. I could even see drafting a NT and being set at the DLine with starters and backups. If neither Mario nor Cushing are projected OLBs, we desperately need an edge rushing OLB NOW. Very little depth and only one starter that`s coming of an injury.
 
LikeMike said:
Watt seems to be a safe pick...
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Yeah, safe pick, workout warrior.

I wanted a difference maker,

Disruptive force,

Quick first step,

Who blows up plays.

Oh, well. Too bad this is worst linebacker & safety class in years...just our luck.
 
I love this pick. Watt is a freakshow athlete with a relentless motor. Quite frankly we need more guys like him. His 10yd splits were very similar to Quin and Kerrigan and better then Fairley and Smith. He posted terrific jump number and a very fast short shuttle time. He's also relatively new to the DE position. I expect big things from Watt and our defense just got alot better!
 
asleep said:
Yeah, safe pick, workout warrior.

I wanted a difference maker,

Disruptive force,

Quick first step,

Who blows up plays.

Oh, well. Too bad this is worst linebacker & safety class in years...just our luck.
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We got a difference maker that has everything you just listed. Put on game tapes of Watt and you'll come away impressed.
 
asleep said:
Yeah, safe pick, workout warrior.

I wanted a difference maker,

Disruptive force,

Quick first step,

Who blows up plays.

Oh, well. Too bad this is worst linebacker & safety class in years...just our luck.
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Did you watch JJ Watt play this year?

He has insane acceleration but lacks top speed, he is involved in nearly every single tackle in the backfield.

Sounds like you got exactly what you wanted, but you don't realize it.
 
One funny remark I found in a fan commentary on Chron.com

Anyone with any doubts about this pick should read the cutline to picture No. 11. He began his college career as a TIGHT END!! Mystery solved.
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:)
 
asleep said:
Yeah, safe pick, workout warrior.

I wanted a difference maker,

Disruptive force,

Quick first step,

Who blows up plays.

Oh, well. Too bad this is worst linebacker & safety class in years...just our luck.
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Difference maker- 21 TFL, 7 sacks, 1 INT, 17 BU/PD, 2 FR, 3FF, 3 Blocked Kicks- check

Disruptive- See above stats- check

Quick first step- 1.64 ten yard split, 37" vertical- check

Blows up plays- See above stats- check

Watt's stats and workout numbers are off the charts. Add in his attitude, and you have a pro bowl player for years.
 
Good pick all around, though I think Fairley and Quinn will end up being better.

The Texans still have no pass rushers though, but they do have a shot at a guy like Bowers in the 2nd.

Drafting a guy to be a backup doesn't make much since with no OLBs, NT, or safeties, but he was BPA.
 
Second Honeymoon said:
Fairley isn't a fit, even in hybrid 3-4, but Quinn was. Fairley is a great fit in Detroit playing alongside Suh. Two DTs with mean streaks. Suh will push Fairley similar to how the Texans hope Watt's energy will push Mario.

The Rams really lucked out with Quinn dropping to them.
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That is a sad state of affairs.
 
After watching some more film on Watt im starting to like the pick more and more. No one knows how effective MW or AS will be in the 3-4 and Watt has an amazing motor. My favorite thing about him is if he cant get to the QB he puts his hands up and trys to bat down the ball. I still like Quinn over him but i have no problem with Watt who will be a very good player in this league
 
otisbean said:
I wonder how many of those making negative comments have actually seen him play?
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My comments aren't negative in a personal way..I like the guy alot...but I saw him play TCU and saw alot of his stuff and all before that game. He has alot of good qualities but it isn't a slight to question where he will fit in this sceme and if there were better options. I think everyone does this at this point. I'm reading about Tyron Smith being the next Alex Barron on the Cowboy board.
 
Ndevine7 said:
After watching some more film on Watt im starting to like the pick more and more. No one knows how effective MW or AS will be in the 3-4 and Watt has an amazing motor. My favorite thing about him is if he cant get to the QB he puts his hands up and trys to bat down the ball. I still like Quinn over him but i have no problem with Watt who will be a very good player in this league
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There were alot of people saying Quinn was better suited for a 4-3
 
asleep said:
Yeah, safe pick, workout warrior.

I wanted a difference maker,

Disruptive force,

Quick first step,

Who blows up plays.

Oh, well. Too bad this is worst linebacker & safety class in years...just our luck.
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Watt is not the sexy pick - but a lot of sexy picks end up as busts. Reggie Bush? Vince Young? Heck you could`ve even call Okoye a sexy pick, since he had major upside.

But with those guys it`s hit or miss. Fairley? He could be Haynesworth 2.0 (the Redskins version) - Quinn? He could miss a lot of time, or not translate to Pro level.

Watt is the kind of player, that makes his team better. Sure, his stats in college were pretty good - and sure, they probably won`t be that good for the texans. But he will chase the QB, free up space for LBs and perhaps some of his attitude will help guys like MW or Okoye (if he stays).

It´s not the pick to sell tickets, but the pick to make this football team better.
 
otisbean said:
There were alot of people saying Quinn was better suited for a 4-3
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I have heard that but i think Quinn is the type of talent that can make the transition to the 3-4 similar build to Ware (6-5 270 compared to 6-4 262) but i do really like the Watt pick. FO might be scared of taking Quinn who sat out a entire year and doesnt know how he could pan out possibly be an Okoye type player.
 
LikeMike said:
Watt is not the sexy pick - but a lot of sexy picks end up as busts. Reggie Bush? Vince Young? Heck you could`ve even call Okoye a sexy pick, since he had major upside.

But with those guys it`s hit or miss. Fairley? He could be Haynesworth 2.0 (the Redskins version) - Quinn? He could miss a lot of time, or not translate to Pro level.

Watt is the kind of player, that makes his team better. Sure, his stats in college were pretty good - and sure, they probably won`t be that good for the texans. But he will chase the QB, free up space for LBs and perhaps some of his attitude will help guys like MW or Okoye (if he stays).

It´s not the pick to sell tickets, but the pick to make this football team better.
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Completely agree he may not be a superstar but he will be a respected talented football player his entire career
 
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